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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's unusual. This situation seems to involve not just prospective pardons for uncharged individuals, but also the president's family and associates who have supported him. The president appears to be using these pardons to shield those who have protected him, creating an environment filled with questionable characters.

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President Trump is reportedly considering preemptive pardons, raising concerns about the precedent it sets and the perception of the U.S. as a nation of laws. This approach to pardons and policy-making, particularly through social media, will not be part of our administration. We will adopt a fundamentally different approach to the justice system.

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Have you ever heard of someone receiving a preemptive pardon despite being completely innocent? It seems unlikely. This situation appears to be an attempt to pardon individuals for potential future crimes they may never be charged with, particularly those close to the president, including family members. The president has surrounded himself with people who have supported him, creating an environment that resembles a den of thieves. This preemptive pardon seems to be a way for the president to protect those who have been loyal to him.

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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It seems unlikely, especially when it involves the president's family and associates. Seeking such pardons raises questions about guilt; if someone is innocent, why would they need one? Preemptive pardons suggest that crimes may have occurred, even if they are not publicly known. If the president were to issue these pardons, it might be framed as protecting his family from external threats. However, the underlying concern appears to be about his own and his family's legal troubles. The idea of a permanent pardon for individuals like Rudy Giuliani and the president's children is troubling, especially if they haven't been convicted of any crimes. Many would interpret these pardons as an admission of guilt.

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President Biden issued pardons to members of the January 6th committee, which you were part of. This came after President Trump suggested the committee should face jail time. You previously expressed that you did not want a pardon and communicated this to the White House. Now that you’ve received one, are you considering accepting it or seeking legal recourse? We are evaluating the situation, but it’s unclear what can be done since the pardons apply to the entire committee. This is unprecedented territory. We’ve operated collectively, and the law regarding such pardons is ambiguous. It seems likely we’ll have to accept the pardon unless there’s an attempt to prosecute the committee.

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The president appears focused on self-interest and grievances as his term nears its end. He is reportedly inquiring about the possibility of issuing preemptive pardons for himself, his family, and Rudy Giuliani. The clear answer is no; this would constitute a serious misuse of presidential pardon power.

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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It seems unlikely, especially when it involves the president's family and associates. Seeking pardons suggests concern over potential wrongdoing. If someone is innocent, why would they need a pardon? Preemptive pardons imply that crimes may have occurred, even if not publicly known. If the president grants these pardons, it could be seen as protecting his family from external threats, but it raises questions about guilt. The idea of a permanent pardon for individuals like Giuliani or the president's children is troubling, especially if they haven't been convicted of any crime. If the president pardons anyone, many would interpret it as an admission of guilt. Recently, it was reported that President Biden will pardon his son, Hunter Biden.

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If Trump wins, DOJ won't stop ongoing cases. Cases in Florida and DC could continue until January if Trump is reelected. Garland would still lead DOJ for a while after inauguration. Trump is using the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity to delay his sentencing in New York until September. Uncertain how things will unfold in the coming months.

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Not much has changed since yesterday, and this is a personal matter. Regarding the possibility of the president pardoning his son, the answer is no. I already addressed that. Please continue.

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Preemptive pardons are being discussed for individuals potentially targeted by Trump, including members of Congress and Anthony Fauci. Although these individuals haven't requested pardons, there is speculation about Fauci's risk due to allegations of lying to Congress, which could lead to felony charges. Evidence from his private emails supports these claims. Additionally, there are expectations that Biden may pardon his brother Hunter, who has a significant criminal history, and possibly himself. The precedent set by Hunter Biden's pardon, which covered all potential future accusations, raises the possibility of similar actions for Fauci and others.

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The president has previously discussed his power to pardon and has talked to his lawyers about it. He has pardoned Joe Arpaio, a former sheriff from Arizona, who was guilty of federal criminal charges. However, pardoning someone related to the Russian investigation carries more significance.

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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's unusual, especially when it's the president's family involved. Seeking preemptive pardons raises questions about guilt; if there's no wrongdoing, why ask for one? Such actions suggest that crimes may have occurred, even if not publicly known. If pardons are issued, they might be framed as protecting family reputations from external threats. The notion of a permanent pardon raises eyebrows, especially for individuals like Giuliani and the president's children, who haven't been convicted of crimes. If the president pardons them, many would interpret it as an admission of guilt. Meanwhile, there are still legal avenues to pursue accountability for any wrongdoing.

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Joy, again, our investigation currently is civil in nature. It is not criminal. Our civil suit will continue, whether he's president or not. After January 20 at 12:00, the investigation will continue. There’s no way a potential pardon for Trump or his three eldest kids would shield them from ongoing inquiries. He cannot pardon himself; he could step down and allow the vice president, vice president Pence, to pardon him. It’s expected he would pardon family members, his son-in-law, and others in his administration, then step down and let the vice president do the pardoning again; he is pardoned from federal crimes but not from state crimes. Last year I introduced a bill in the state legislature to close the pardon loophole, now law in New York, ensuring President Trump cannot avoid justice there.

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The speaker is asked about the process of pardoning Arpaio. They admit to not knowing the details but mention that the president has the authority to issue pardons, even without the Department of Justice's involvement. They believe this particular pardon was within the president's power.

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Rudy Giuliani has suggested the possibility of pardoning himself, claiming he has that authority, though it hasn't been tested in court. This raises concerns about the precedent it sets and how it affects perceptions of justice in the nation. The justice department will operate independently, and I won't dictate their actions or prosecutions. The people I appoint to lead the department will have the autonomy to make decisions on prosecutions. In our administration, we will not adopt a similar approach to pardons.

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Speaker 1 explains the investigation is civil in nature and not criminal, and that "our civil suit will continue, whether he's president or not." After January 20 at 12:00, "our investigation will continue." Regarding pardons, "There’s no way a potential pardon for Trump or his three eldest kids would shield them from anything you're investigating." He adds, "He cannot pardon himself," but "he could step down and allow the vice president, vice president Pence, to pardon him," and "I suspect that he will pardon his family members, his children, his son-in-law, and individuals in his administration, as well as some of his close associates." Then "at some point in time, he will step down and allow the vice president to pardon him." He notes that "he is pardoned from federal crimes, but he is not pardoned from state crimes." He says, "Last year I introduced a bill in the state legislature, which would close the pardon loophole so that individuals such as the president of The United States would not evade justice. ... it is now the law in the state of New York. President Trump cannot avoid justice in the great state of New York."

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The President recently discussed the possibility of preemptive pardons in an interview with USA Today. While specifics are not being disclosed, further announcements regarding pardons and commutations are expected soon, within the next ten days. More details will be provided before the end of his term.

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Robert Shapiro suggested in the Washington Post that President Biden should offer Donald Trump a blanket pardon to allow him to focus on governing rather than seeking revenge. While this idea has merit, it raises questions about its effectiveness. A presidential pardon would only cover federal charges and not Trump's state convictions related to financial misconduct. The discussion also touches on the challenges Trump faces with ongoing prosecutions. Additionally, a Republican report claims Liz Cheney tampered with a witness, but talking to witnesses is not illegal. Cheney merely encouraged testimony, and there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on her part.

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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's typically reserved for those close to the president, like family or associates. Seeking such pardons raises questions about guilt; if someone is innocent, why would they need one? Preemptive pardons suggest that crimes may have been committed, even if not publicly known. If the president issues these pardons, it may be framed as protecting his family from external threats. The obsession with pardons indicates concern over potential criminal culpability. The idea of a permanent pardon raises further questions about accountability. If figures like Rudy Giuliani receive pardons, many would interpret that as an admission of guilt, questioning the necessity of such actions if there were no wrongdoing.

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Speaker 0 discusses bipartisanship, while Speaker 1 expresses fear of arrest due to involvement in Stop the Steal. Seeking a second pardon from the president, he presents it as a plan to save the Trump movement before facing charges.

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Trump is considering granting preemptive pardons to his family and associates as he approaches the end of his presidency. This raises concerns, as it suggests he wants to excuse potential future actions before any investigations occur. Advisers are reportedly encouraging this move, even though no charges have been filed against those he might pardon. The implications of such actions could be damaging to the country as he leaves office.

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The transcript captures a short, informal discussion about Donald Trump’s handling of the Epstein files and the broader question of whether presidents protect rich and powerful people at the expense of victims in sex-crime cases. The dialogue unfolds between Speaker 0 and Speaker 1, with a recent history/politics flavor and an on-the-record moment later in the exchange. Speaker 0 begins by asking Speaker 1 how Trump fought to avoid releasing the Epstein files, noting that Trump initially indicated a release but then reversed course. Speaker 1 responds noncommittally, suggesting that Trump “probably” had friends who were involved and that Trump “saved them” from trouble. The question is framed as whether this constitutes presidential conduct—protecting powerful people rather than victims. Speaker 0 presses further, asking if protecting rich and powerful people over sex-crime victims is appropriate for a president, and whether such behavior is common in presidential history. Speaker 1 counters by pointing to historical examples, stating that many presidents have favored their friends and families, adding that while JFK’s affairs were noted, he claims Kennedy “got caught,” implying possible crimes. Speaker 0 acknowledges Kennedy’s infidelity but questions whether there were crimes, while Speaker 1 reiterates the point that Kennedy “got caught,” and asserts that such behavior is not becoming of a United States president. The conversation shifts toward evaluating current leadership: Speaker 0 asks whether Speaker 1 agrees with Trump’s protection of powerful individuals at the expense of crime victims. Speaker 1 answers, “All depends on who the powerful people are,” suggesting a conditional view rather than a blanket condemnation or approval. The discussion then veers to the expectation that a president should serve all Americans, not just the wealthy, and Speaker 0 reiterates the moral question. Speaker 1, initially evasive about personal details, asserts that they are a state representative and holds a badge, claiming to work for their country. The exchange ends with a sense of irony in the narrator’s commentary: the “moral of the story” being that it’s acceptable for Donald Trump to protect rich and powerful men because he himself is rich and powerful, effectively equating protection of the powerful with personal parity. Overall, the transcript presents a back-and-forth debate about why presidents might shield powerful individuals, how historical precedents factor into current judgments, and whether leadership should be equally accountable to all segments of society, ending with a skeptical, wrap-up sentiment about the perceived fairness of such protections.

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President Trump is reportedly considering preemptive pardons, raising concerns about the precedent it sets and how it affects perceptions of the U.S. as a nation of laws. This approach to pardons and policy-making via social media will not be part of our administration. We will adopt a fundamentally different approach to the justice system.

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President Trump is reportedly considering a series of preemptive pardons. This raises concerns about the precedent it sets and how it affects the perception of the U.S. as a nation of laws. In our administration, we will not adopt this approach to pardons or make policy decisions through social media. Our focus will be on a fundamentally different approach to the justice system.

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Trump 'I'm Allowed' To Pardon Ghislaine Maxwell
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Donald Trump has hinted at the possibility of pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, stating, "I am allowed to do it if I want to." This comes amid reports of her meeting with the Department of Justice, where she allegedly provided information on over 100 individuals linked to the Epstein case. Critics argue that any potential deal could serve to protect Trump from scrutiny regarding his connections to Epstein. The DOJ has compiled over 100,000 pages of Epstein-related documents, yet concerns about releasing sensitive information persist. The ongoing political maneuvering raises questions about whether Trump is attempting to deflect attention from his ties to Epstein. Calls for a special prosecutor highlight the need for an independent investigation into these matters.
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