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Multiple undercover agents and informants have been involved in various incidents throughout history. For example, in Michigan, there were more informants and agents than actual kidnappers in a right-wing militia plot. The FBI has also infiltrated left-wing groups like Occupied Cleveland. On January 6th, a man named Ray Epps, who was seen leading the charge into the Capitol, has raised suspicions of being an informant. Footage shows him pushing a large MAGA sign towards police, while others who touched the sign were arrested and charged. The Gateway Pundit, an online news site, has been investigating these incidents and believes that the government and various agencies were involved in the violence that day.

The FBI's involvement in the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case revealed that out of 14 people, 12 were informants. These informants allegedly convinced two individuals to attempt to kidnap the governor, resembling a misguided role-playing game. The situation highlights a saying that suggests the FBI often targets individuals they have a hand in creating.

What needs to be established is whether the FBI and government agents used undercover operatives on January 6th. If evidence shows they had informants, it undermines the insurrection narrative. There’s reasonable suspicion of federal involvement, especially with video evidence of a person directing people into the building and the case of Ray Epps, who was briefly on the FBI's most wanted list. Two significant points support this: Epps’ sudden removal from the list suggests he may have been an informant, and FBI official Jill Sanborn's refusal to answer whether federal agents were involved indicates possible involvement. Her silence implies that confirming their presence could compromise ongoing operations.

The discussion outlines that a year before January 6, the FBI conducted a planning exercise and had specific plans for the event. Speaker 1 states there was a tabletop exercise run in Boston in August 2020, five months before January 6. The memos that Kash Patel turned over to Congress, recently provided at the request of Chairman Barry Lautomilk, show that the FBI knew there was a strong possibility of a hanging or contested election, with both sides agitated and likely to escalate to violence. The memos also reveal that the FBI devised specific strategies, including embedding informants inside groups where political violence or agitation might occur. According to Speaker 1, the FBI had two dozen informants on the ground on the morning of January 6, and recommended mass prosecutions, even for the most minor crimes—described as exactly what the FBI did after January 6. Speaker 1 emphasizes two major points about the strategy: first, that the strategy was conceived months in advance and was carried out; second, that it represented a double standard because it differed from how political violence at BLM protests and far-left actions in 2020 were handled. The claim is that informants were embedded in both left- and right-wing groups, including Antifa and right-wing groups, and that intelligence suggested a bad episode would occur. They allege that, according to Chairman Barry Lautemux, warnings from informants were strong, but Capitol stakeholders in Washington, DC, did not receive those warnings or pass them along. This, they argue, shows two failed examples of the FBI under the Chris Ray era, with foreknowledge of events but actions that hurt conservatives while not alerting liberals or those who could have prevented violence. The documents are presented as now public, described as stunning by the speakers. Regarding whether there was any briefing to higher-level officials, Speaker 0 asks if there is evidence that Bill Barr, Chris Ray, or staff at the White House were briefed after the tabletop exercise and plan development. Speaker 1 responds that there is no indication of briefing the attorney general or other senior officials. There is no documentation showing that Barr, the Homeland Security Department, the Capitol Police, or the Washington, DC Metropolitan Police were alerted. The speaker notes that this suggests an insular FBI operation, drawing a comparison to pre-nine-eleven dynamics, implying systemic issues within the FBI.

Multiple undercover agents and informants have been involved in various incidents throughout history. For example, in Michigan, there were more informants and agents than actual kidnappers in a right-wing militia plot. The FBI has also infiltrated left-wing groups like Occupied Cleveland. On January 6th, a man named Ray Epps, who was seen leading the charge into the Capitol, has raised suspicions of being an informant. Footage shows him pushing a large MAGA sign towards police officers, an act that got others charged with assault. Meanwhile, other individuals involved in the Capitol breach have faced harsh sentences, despite being poor or middle-class individuals who were there to protest the election. There is evidence suggesting that undercover law enforcement officers may have encouraged and assisted individuals in entering the Capitol. The investigation into the events of January 6th is ongoing.

A recent report reveals that 26 confidential human sources were present during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot. Of these, three were authorized by the FBI to monitor the event due to concerns over domestic terrorism. One of these sources entered the Capitol, while two others accessed restricted areas. The FBI did not authorize any sources to enter the building. Additionally, 23 other sources were present independently but had previously collaborated with the FBI. Notably, none of the sources who entered restricted areas were prosecuted, aligning with the DC US attorney's office's approach of not charging individuals for merely entering restricted grounds. Outgoing FBI director Christopher Wray has faced scrutiny regarding the agency's role on that day, emphasizing that the violence was not orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. Further information is anticipated from Capitol Hill and the White House.

The discussion centers on whether January 6 violence was an FBI operation. Speaker 0 denies that the violence at the Capitol was part of any operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. Speaker 1 asks if the FBI had an engagement with embedded agents; Speaker 0 repeats denial. Several speakers challenge the lack of answers about how many agents were present, suggesting informants were involved. Speaker 5 says "attorneys for the Proud Boys revealed at least 40 undercover informants were doing surveillance on the defendants that day, including 13 working in the DC Metro Police." Plainclothes MPD officers on Capitol Grounds are referenced. Speaker 6 says he provided high-definition video to lawmakers and accuses the FBI/DOJ of ignoring it; he describes an open window and an operative pulling it. Speaker 7 concludes: "it was the FBI and not Trump supporters who led the insurrection of the Capitol on January 6."

The conversation centers on a set of claims and observations about January 6 that orbit around Sedition Hunters, Ray Epps, and the so-called “Northwest Scaffold Commander.” The speakers discuss and link multiple pieces of information to argue that the FBI and other agencies were paying close attention to, or coordinating with, covert actor networks on that day. - The discussion opens with a reference to a John Solomon article about Sedition Hunters and claims that the FBI and Justice Department paid Sedition Hunters about $150,000 to gather evidence on January 6 protesters to help the FBI make arrests. They note the figure was reported as over $100,000 in some places and $150,000 in a House hearing, and they say the FBI/DOJ paid Sedition Hunters, the SPLC, the ADL, the Atlantic Council, DFR Lab, and Bellingcat for intelligence. - The main focus shifts to a piece titled Meet Ray Epps (December 2021) by the speakers’ interlocutor, where they argue that the “main star of the show” was not Ray Epps, but a different figure labeled Northwest Scaffold Commander (referred to as Scaffold Commander). They emphasize that Sedition Hunters’ archives identified Scaffold Commander as their number-one suspect, although he was not placed on the FBI’s most-wanted list. - They recount how, on January 8, 2021, the FBI’s most-wanted list listed Ray Epps as a top suspect in the case, with public calls for information and a cash reward. By late June 2021, a Phoenix newspaper identified him as “Reyes,” and on July 1, 2021, the FBI removed Epps from the wanted list with no explanation and no arrest. They contrast this with Scaffold Commander, who was never added to the FBI’s public wanted list for identification by the public, despite being the focal point of Sedition Hunters’ investigations. - The speakers describe Scaffold Commander as an older man with glasses, a nerdy mask, and a blue cap, who allegedly directed the breach from the Northwest scaffold overlooking the Capitol. They claim he used a bullhorn to issue commands for approximately 18 minutes to an hour and a half, from 1:00 PM to about 2:30 PM, urging the crowd with phrases like “Move forward,” “Don’t just stand there,” “Help somebody over the wall,” and “We gotta fill up the capital.” - They juxtapose these observations with the chronology of the breach: the first breach around 12:53 PM, the crowd’s advance toward the Capitol, and the moment rioters entered the building. They argue Scaffold Commander acted as a ringleader and that Ray Epps was directly beneath him in the crowd, effectively functioning as an internal participant who helped draw people toward the front. - A key point they stress is that Scaffold Commander’s high perch and commanding role align with a long-cited CIA manual from 1983, Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare, which describes a small cadre of crowd agitators operating from elevated positions to direct slogans and crowd movement. They quote and reference passages describing an “outside commando element” that stays above the crowd to observe and direct a demonstration, using high observation points to shout instructions and guide the crowd’s actions. - The speakers argue that the FBI has not acknowledged Scaffold Commander, has not included him on any public list, and has not publicly solicited identification for him, despite Sedition Hunters’ focus on him as the pivotal organizer. They suggest that internal FBI records, memos, or emails about Scaffold Commander could be highly revealing, potentially showing whether higher-ups instructed not to pursue him. - They conclude by urging the FBI and related investigators to search their internal records for “Northwest Scaffold Commander” and make any relevant documents public, implying that such records could undermine the official narrative of the event. They also frame the existence of an internal, externally guided command structure as a critical piece of the January 6 story that remains underexplored by authorities.

There has been a debate about the presence of federal agents at the January 6 event. Initially, it was denied, but now it is confirmed that there were indeed federal agents in the crowd. It is not uncommon for federal agencies to have people in plain clothes for situational awareness at large events like demonstrations and inaugurations. The FBI took overt action to prevent certain individuals from attending the January 6 event. A GAO report revealed that the FBI was tracking 18 or 19 domestic terrorists planning to attend the event. It is concerning that this information was not shared with intelligence. It is important to deconflict and communicate with the Chief of Capitol Police to avoid any confusion or conflicts.

The FBI had significant involvement in the events of January 6, with over 200 agents embedded within the crowd, including inside the Capitol, disguised as Trump supporters. They infiltrated online chat groups and social media platforms discussing opposition to COVID measures. Analysis of communications within these groups reveals that suggestions for potential violence or an occupation of the Capitol originated from these FBI agents. This indicates that the FBI's involvement extended well beyond January 6, influencing events in the preceding weeks and months. Additionally, recently released footage shows Capitol Police welcoming people into the Capitol, contradicting the initial narrative of an insurrection.

I received a call from someone in Great Britain asking about federal agents in the crowd. I denied their presence, assuming I would have been informed. However, later I learned that there were indeed federal agents present. This was confirmed by Jill Sanborn's testimony in 2021, where she mentioned the FBI taking overt action to prevent certain individuals from attending the January 6th event in DC. In February 2023, a GAO report revealed that the FBI was tracking 4 domestic terrorists on January 3rd, which increased to 18 or 19 by January 6th. It's reasonable to have resources and multiple agents for such a situation, but it's concerning that this information wasn't shared in intelligence.

They say the FBI anticipated consternation around the election and actually prepared plans for January 6. They held a tabletop exercise in Boston in August 2020, five months before January 6. Kash Patel recently turned over memos to Congress at the request of Chairman Barry Lautenberg (Lautomilk) of the J-six investigation. The memos show the FBI knew there was a strong possibility of a hanging or contested election, with both sides agitated and likely to escalate to violence. They devised specific strategies, including embedding informants inside the groups where political violence or agitation might occur. They say the FBI had two dozen informants on the ground the morning of January 6. They also recommended mass prosecutions, even for the most minor crimes, which is described as exactly what the FBI did after January 6. Two big takeaways: the strategy appears to have been hatched months before and then carried out, and it involved a clear double standard compared to the political violence by the left in 2020. The FBI allegedly embedded informants in a broad range of groups, including Antifa and right-wing groups, and gathered intelligence suggesting a bad episode would occur. Barry Lautemux reportedly stated that while the warnings from informants were strong, the preparations of warnings to the brethren of the Capitol in Washington, DC did not exist. In other words, warnings were not passed along. The claim is that two failed examples of the Chris era of the FBI show that, knowing something was going to happen, they implemented a strategy that hurt conservatives but not liberals and did not warn the people who could actually prevent the violence. This is described as the legacy of the Chris Ray FBI, now laid open in documents for all to see. The question is whether any part shows that Bill Barr or Chris Ray briefed the president or his staff, or senior White House officials after the tabletop exercise and the development of the informant plan. The answer given is no: there is no documentation showing that the attorney general, Barr or other brass were briefed, and no mention that the White House, Homeland Security Department, Capitol Police, or Washington DC Metropolitan Police were alerted. The characterization is that the FBI remained insular, echoing the same “diseases” seen before nine-eleven.

According to the speaker, there were undercover FBI agents present at the January 6th event, as confirmed by the FBI Director's testimony. The speaker initially didn't know about their presence but later learned that there were allegedly 18 operatives in the crowd. This was unusual compared to past events where intelligence was handled differently. The speaker also mentioned that Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) personnel were likely present as well. The speaker described the number of law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the crowd as significant and unprecedented, especially for a hate event in Washington DC.

Two unmarked white buses arrived at Union Station on January 6th, before any other charter buses. The buses had been painted over and had no markings or company names. A witness saw around 40-50 men, described as Trump supporters, disembark from the buses and gather in front of them for a discussion. They then went up the escalators and disappeared. The speaker believes that everyone on those buses were FBI assets, possibly including FBI agents. They suspect senior officials at the FBI were involved. The speaker believes that some were confidential informants, while others were actual agents. They collected evidence and plan to trace the ownership of the buses.

Multiple federal agents and informants have been involved in undercover operations targeting both right-wing and left-wing groups. In the case of the Michigan militia plot to kidnap the governor, there were more informants and undercover agents than actual kidnappers. Similarly, in the Occupy Cleveland case, anarchists were led by an FBI informant. On January 6th, a man named Ray Epps, who was seen leading the crowd and pushing a large MAGA sign, has not been arrested despite others being charged for similar actions. The Gateway Pundit has been covering these incidents and believes that government agents were involved in instigating the violence. The investigation into the events of January 6th is ongoing.

The speaker questions Director Wray about the FBI's involvement on January 6th. The speaker references a previous exchange where he asked if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th prior to the doors being opened. He claims Director Wray did not provide a definitive answer. The speaker states that Stephen D'Artano testified that he was aware FBI informants would attend the "Stop the Steal" rally. The speaker asks Wray to confirm the FBI had confidential human sources at the rally. Wray declines to comment on the use of confidential human sources. The speaker asks if an FBI informant marched to the Capitol with Proud Boys members on January 6th and communicated with his handler while people were entering the Capitol. Wray denies the violence at the Capitol was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The speaker then asks if Wray is familiar with "ghost vehicles" or "ghost buses," claiming they are common in law enforcement and used for secret purposes. The speaker presents evidence of two white buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th, alleging they were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. He accuses Wray of deploying these informants onto the Capitol on January 6th.

During a hearing, the focus was FBI involvement before and on January 6. "Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the capital on January 6 prior to the doors being opened?" The director replied, "I have to be very careful of what I say," and the questioner urged, "it should be a no." A year later, "We can't get a straight answer" about FBI presence in the months before and on January 6. "Steven Dortano ... testified ... he was aware the FBI informants would attend the Stop the Steal rally," and "You confirmed that the FBI had confidential human sources at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6 here in DC, sir?" The director said, "I'm not gonna get into where we have or have not used confidential human sources." "Earlier this year, an FBI informant ... marched to the US capital ... he was communicating with his FBI handler while people were entering The US Capitol." "If you are asking whether the violence ... was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and or agents, the answer is emphatically false." "These two buses ... completely white ... were the first to arrive at Union Station." "These buses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters."

During a congressional hearing, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz admitted the FBI had confidential human sources (CHS) embedded in the January 6th Capitol crowd. GOP Rep. Thomas Massie questioned why it's taken almost 4 years to reveal the number of informants involved, but Horowitz declined to provide a specific number, promising a future report. Massie inquired if informants who entered the Capitol would be prosecuted like other J6 participants and if any were compensated for travel. Fox News suggested the presence of FBI informants was a significant development. Stephen Dantuono, former head of the FBI's Washington DC field office, previously stated the field office had CHS embedded in the J6 crowd and that informants from other field offices were also present. Rep. Clay Higgins claimed busloads of FBI moles were sent to DC on January 6th. The J6 pipe bomb suspect may also have been a federal government asset.

A recent report reveals that on January 6, 2021, there were 26 confidential human sources present at the Capitol. Of these, three were authorized by the FBI to monitor concerns related to domestic terrorism. One source entered the Capitol, while two accessed restricted areas, but the FBI did not authorize these actions. The remaining 23 sources were there independently, having previously collaborated with the FBI but not specifically for the January 6 rally. Notably, none of the sources who entered restricted areas faced prosecution, aligning with the DC US attorney's office's approach of not charging individuals whose only offense was entering restricted grounds. Outgoing FBI director Christopher Wray has consistently denied that the violence was orchestrated by FBI agents or sources.

You can set people up to act on their impulses, which can be seen as a form of entrapment. The bureau gets close to this without officially crossing the line. For instance, they might create social media posts to provoke reactions. Gavin O'Glenis, a CIA contracting officer, discussed his past work with the FBI and involvement in monitoring figures like Alex Jones. The goal was to undermine Jones financially through civil lawsuits, which the bureau can encourage without direct involvement. Additionally, O'Glenis acknowledged that FBI agents were undercover during the January 6th Capitol riot, estimating around 20 agents were present to monitor the situation, but they were not involved in any violence. The bureau prefers to keep their presence discreet to avoid overstepping boundaries.

A congressman questioned Director Wray about the FBI's involvement on January 6th. He referenced a previous exchange where he asked if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol, to which he felt he did not receive a straight answer. The congressman stated Steven Dortano testified that he was aware FBI informants would attend the Stop the Steal rally. Wray declined to comment on the use of confidential human sources. The congressman then asked about an FBI informant who reportedly marched to the Capitol with Proud Boys members and communicated with his handler. Wray denied that the violence at the Capitol was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The congressman inquired about "ghost buses," claiming two white buses were the first to arrive at Union Station on January 6th and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. The chairman noted the congressman's time had expired.

Derek Myers, a congressional candidate for Ohio's 2nd district, claims that undercover FBI agents and human assets were present at the January 6th Capitol protest. Myers states he was recruited by the FBI in 2017 as a field operative to infiltrate radicalized organizations, gather intelligence, help plan their activities, and "help radicalize them" to incite violence. Myers says he was deactivated in 2020 but was approached in December 2020 to be reactivated for an assignment in Washington D.C. in January, which he now believes was the January 6th Stop the Steal rally. Myers claims the FBI uses confidential human informants and plainclothes agents to infiltrate protests. He states he has evidence to support his claims, which he is prepared to share, despite the risks. He hopes his disclosure will shed light on the federal government's actions and force them to be honest about January 6th and the use of undercover agents.

The speaker questions Director Wray about the FBI's involvement on January 6th. They reference a previous exchange where Wray was asked if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol, to which Wray was hesitant to answer. The speaker claims the FBI had informants at the "Stop the Steal" rally and that an FBI informant marched to the Capitol with Proud Boys members on January 6th, communicating with their handler. Wray denies that the violence at the Capitol was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The speaker then asks about "ghost buses," vehicles used for secret purposes, claiming that two such buses arrived at Union Station on January 6th, filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. The speaker alleges these buses deployed people onto the Capitol on January 6th.

The FBI had over 200 agents embedded in the crowd on January 6th, some even posing as Trump supporters. They infiltrated online groups discussing COVID restrictions, leading discussions of violence. Capitol Police were seen welcoming people into the Capitol, contradicting the insurrection narrative.

An individual, identified as a CIA contracting officer who formerly worked for the FBI, discussed tactics employed by the Bureau, including near-entrapment, which they call "a nudge," to provoke targeted individuals into acting on impulse. They admitted to using fake social media posts to anger people. The speaker claimed the FBI was "after" Alex Jones and aimed to bankrupt him by encouraging civil lawsuits from the Sandy Hook families. They monitored Jones' followers, looking for potential leads, and were satisfied when the families "shot his legs off" via civil suits. The speaker stated there were approximately 20 undercover FBI agents present at the January 6th Capitol riot to gather information, but their presence was not publicly acknowledged to avoid overstepping bounds.