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Speaker 0 recounts being told at synagogue while offline that Candice is really going after him, and that heads-up sealed him a little. When he finally turned the phone on, he truly saw all the notifications. He was up until 3AM local time that night dealing with all the messages and emails. It’s not fun. He says, to an extent, it’s part of the nature of the business—when you put yourself out there, you’re going to get pushback. But this is not pushback. This is not someone responding to a legal theory of mine or making an intelligent point about the two-state solution or not two-state solution. No. This is literally just picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sinking your band of millions and millions of neo Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a husband and father to a young child. So, he says, it’s just awful, awful stuff. And he adds that he’s talking to lawyers. “Aaron, I think I’ve said this publicly already.” He’s a lawyer with his background, he clerked for a federal appeals judge, and he knows a thing or two about United States constitutional law. He thinks that there is a potentially serious case here for defamation, and he is very much speaking with lawyers, and we’ll see what happens.

The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and 'dangerous.' 'Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.' He was not an anti Semite; he was the opposite, and he was not dangerous. He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. He was the opposite, and he was very stung by that. Charlie was deeply offended by that and expressed some feelings on Megyn Kelly show and in other places, but that did not let up. He called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him, every single time, 'look, I've got my own way to communicate my views. This is actually not the most important issue to me.' There are lots of things I can talk about; I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off no problem.

Speaker 0 outlines concerns about governance and patient safety, stating that “the governor” is ultimately over the issues, with nurses and the medical board implicated. He recalls that the medical board “came in and Please please do from letting insurance are being abused,” noting that complaints would take up to eight months to be contacted back or would “vanish into a black hole.” He emphasizes that staffing was blamed despite unspent staffing funds and asserts the governor is ultimately responsible. He mentions that his staff queried the possibility of being an Israeli spy and calls for immediate hearings, adding that discussions have been ongoing and something will be done. He references news that Josh Shapiro, a Kamala Harris vice-presidential contender, was queried by her staff about being an Israeli spy, and contrasts this with the lack of questioning about Walsh being a Chinese spy or having a predilection to fraud. He references antisemitic lines of credit and notes receiving massive inquiries, saying they will host a seminar on how to fight back, including defamation lawsuits as a recourse for public figures, though acknowledging the difficulty of such actions. Speaker 2 states she does not know the person but notes a predilection for people close to the others, insisting the person is “not part of the club.” Speaker 0 recalls a podcast with a Christian podcaster and expresses that to do this line of work, one must believe God drives it because they do not make money. He remarks on being disliked for not chasing popularity and invites others to examine their Twitter feeds. He describes the harassment they face, including lawfare, stalking, threats, and the desire to “kill me,” recounting examples like Carrie Donovan. Speaker 2 agrees on the intensity of threats and emphasizes the importance of truth and accountability in their reporting, not wanting to be deterred by intimidation. Speaker 0 adds that belief in a higher purpose is necessary to endure the profession, noting that after October 7 his faith was shaken but returning to the idea that God orders their steps. Speaker 2 adds that the local community deserves to know when someone is not who they claim to be or has a criminal record, and that elected officials deserve scrutiny. Speaker 1 introduces Adam with Accuracy in Media, saying he is dealing with three defamation suits from wealthy individuals’ families and has faced 13 swatts and daily death threats, sometimes requiring off-duty police at college campuses. He highlights the value of anti-SLAPP laws and tort reform, noting North Carolina lacks an anti-SLAPP law, which would help dismiss frivolous defamation suits protecting free speech, and criticizes legislators for lobbying for lawyers. Speaker 0 announces a good development: a story they broke on Thursday prompted Brendan Jones, head of the real bulldog in North Carolina’s oversight committee, to request appearances before his committee in Winston-Salem. They plan to discuss the Winston-Salem event, North Carolina A&T, and the Western North Carolina story, which Margo finds triggering. Speaker 3 from the city notes DEI support and discusses terminology changes since the FBI’s ban, and Speaker 1 comments on leadership differences between states, suggesting better governance in other legislatures and hoping for improved leadership locally. The exchange ends with remarks about leadership and governance comparisons.

"BB's holding it up like Charlie just in May said, hey, you know what? I just want to write a love letter to Israel." "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." "But my moral character is now being put into question, Megan." "But no. I am a bad person if I do this." "Thousands of tweets and text messages." "the people that are attacking me are in a hyperparanoid state because they're at war, and war tends to make things black and white, and you're a hammer looking for a nail." "What would it be like if all of a sudden I'm starting to see a pattern of behavior similar to what my grandparents saw in nineteen thirties Germany online? How would I behave?" "Tucker Carlson was really the focus when it came to America Fest."

I'm a 74-year-old Trump supporter from Palo Alto. Two days ago, a woman at a Starbucks confronted me, calling me a racist and a Nazi. She took photos and posted them on Facebook, intending to shame me and get me fired. Her actions had unintended consequences; people harassed her family and her employer, Griffin Stringed Instruments, leading to her termination. The store owner cited her Facebook posts as inconsistent with their values. She refused to discuss the matter with me, preferring to focus on her accusations. I wear a yarmulke under my MAGA hat; I'm Jewish, and being called a Nazi is deeply offensive.

"Some of the Internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder." "That's insane." "Israel also changes the orbit of the moon; Israel pushes the sun." "When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors." "They're willing to kill us all the time." "We were poisoning the wells, we were drinking the blood of Christian children." "The Nazis said the same thing. You know, we're carrying vermin, we're spreading disease, and people believed it." "Well, since then, we've learned, when people spread these lies about us, prepare yourself for the assault." "Charlie Kirk said to me that he wrote me this detailed letter, you have to fight the slander. These untruths, these vilifications have consequences. And he was right." "He was going to win. That's why they shot him."

Speaker 0, a lawyer who clerked for a federal appeals judge, says, "we have a a potentially serious case here for defamation," and that he is "speaking with lawyers, and we'll see what happens." He states, "She is lying in a way that is resonating with people in a way that damages you significantly" and adds, "It's just so evil." He describes Charlie as "a good friend of mine" he had known for "five, six years," noting they were "really close over the final year, year and a half" and "in daily communication." He says he doesn't know precisely how much Candice communicated with Charlie, but "she very much was on the outs of Turning Point USA" and they were "not in touch at all" aside from "a happy birthday" moments. He ends with, "Aaron, when I first found out that Charlie had been shot."

"Anti defamation league gets a green light." "Only for some. Yes." "You may not cite them." "You can't you can't find the Jewish perspective on the war so easily anymore." "Not to my knowledge, except now there is a congressional investigation." "I don't know if my tweet had anything to do with the start of that." "I think it had more to do with the reporting of Ashley Rinsberg." "And well, of course, Israel and I would add, Hindus are very bothered with the way that their ethnic groups are treated in Wikipedia." "And both of both a whole bunch of Jews and Hindus have been after me in the last couple of years saying, you've got to speak out." "You've got to speak out." "People who are organized have a way to push back against the lying." "I think that if, like, Israeli intelligence, for example, got together and made a real concerted effort to to fight against the this group of 40 Muslim activists that Ashley Rinsberg identified." "They might be able to make some inroads." "It really depends It's possible."

Speaker recounts Candace Owens roasting Dinesh, including a segment about "fucking farm animals" and "what's on your laptop? And they're most likely blackmailing you about." They note the Zionist lobby hates me and Tucker Carlson—"the hatred is deep. It's sinister. It's evil." The speaker describes a "blitzkrieg" of attacks, and Dinesh D'Souza's tweet claiming Candace is a freak show, likening it to "driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep." Ishaar Ali responds, arguing this is not about Candace Owens but what they're saying. The speaker then attacks Dinesh as "Israel's bitch" and "Netanyahu's little house bitch" and "fetch that water," accusing him of being influenced by Netanyahu. They criticize D'Souza's films, call him "weak," and end: "You're obviously being blackmailed... Everything in this video is just allegedly... We're still Americans."

The speaker discusses being accused of horrible things due to being Jewish and receiving messages questioning their trustworthiness as a dual Canadian-Israeli citizen. Another speaker asks if they work for an Israeli intelligence firm called Black Cube, to which the speaker denies. The conversation shifts to a specific point that the speaker didn't fully answer before abruptly ending.

Speaker 0: "We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" Speaker 1: "That's not right. Wrong headed." He says he faced blowback after saying, "Mossad, possibilities with Epstein," a comment he stands by, and that he "reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." He writes, "He says, I think he would have told me. He didn't say he had any of those connections. I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "I think all these things should be explored." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." He finishes, "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

The speaker discusses being accused of horrible things due to being Jewish and receiving messages questioning their trustworthiness as a dual Canadian-Israeli citizen. Another speaker asks if they work for an Israeli intelligence firm called Black Cube, to which the speaker denies. The conversation shifts to a specific point that the speaker didn't fully answer before abruptly ending.

Speaker 0 expresses that "The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away" and that he is accused of being an anti-Semite despite "I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath." He notes online backlash, "thousands of tweets and text messages," and that his "moral character is now being put into question" for supporting Israel. Speaker 1 agrees the treatment is unfair, saying "Dave Smith isn't allowed to criticize Israel" and that "the Israeli side was overrepresented." They discuss Americans first, resisting accusations, and the difficulty of criticizing the Israeli government online. They reference Epstein's controversial topic and say they hosted a debate giving "equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a pro Israel advocate." They observe a "hyperparanoid state" online and wonder if patterns resemble "nineteen thirties Germany."

"We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" "That's not right. Wrong headed." "I So got some blowback after saying Mossad possibilities with Epstein, a comment behind which I stand." "I've, of course, reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." "He says, I think he would have told me." "He didn't say he had any of those connections." "I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

I was suspended by Claudine Gay for behavior harmful to the community. She accused me of violating norms and betraying trust at Harvard. Do you believe in karma? Calling for the genocide of Jews is bullying and harassment, without a doubt.

This is unbelievable. I'm not leaving; this is what Jews in New York City face in a place of business. Is she with you? No. I asked him if he did. Someone needs to call the cops. This is intense. I’m sorry, but we need to involve the authorities. This will be reported to the FBI.

I am alarmed, harassed, and distressed because of your presence, but I'm afraid to confront you. It is not pleasant being investigated. You should investigate the individual responsible for the communication, specifically point one two seven. This addresses instances where posts cause significant distress or are of a menacing nature, resulting in anxiety for the recipient. You're going to be wearing a mask next. Do not call us a Jewish president. He's dominant to the right, do not call the right. Don't do that.

The transcript describes a complex web of legal and professional connections surrounding Candace Owens and Brian Harpole. It starts by noting that Harpol, the security firm Harpole uses against Candace, employs Ben Shapiro’s brother-in-law. It claims this is part of a broader mix of interests involving the Department of Justice (DOJ) and prominent conservative figures, creating a “rabbit hole” of ties. The argument presented is that Brian Harpole’s lawsuit against Candace appears to be a coordinated strike. Key connections highlighted include: - The lead attorney for Brian Harpole, Zachary Stoner, works for the De Leon Law Group. The firm’s leader is Harmeet Dhillon, who is currently serving as Trump’s assistant attorney general for civil rights at the DOJ. Although Dhillon is on leave from the firm, her influence is described as pervasive, especially in advocating stricter anti-Philadelphia speech laws that are alleged to threaten journalists like Candace. - A Daily Wire connection is noted: Candace had previously been represented by the same law firm (De Leon Law Group) during a lengthy arbitration battle against her. The narrative suggests these lawyers know Candace and are returning for more. - The De Leon Law Group also hired Jacob Roth, an orthodox Philadelphia attorney specializing in civil rights. The “Shapiro tie” is that Roth is Ben Shapiro’s brother-in-law, married to Ben’s sister Abby Shapiro. This is framed as an “attack by proxy,” with Ben Shapiro portrayed as a former employer who has allegedly harassed and stalked Candace for years. - There is an appearance by Jacob Roth himself, introducing a personal testimony about troubling issues, reinforcing the network of connections. The speaker suggests deeper connections beyond the law firm, implying a broader pattern of influence and collaboration. A comparison is drawn to “lawfare” cases against a president, with a DOJ member stepping down to work in the same space, which the speaker finds suspect. Overall, the transcript posits that Candace’s adversaries are intertwined through a network of a security firm, a law group, family ties (notably Ben Shapiro’s brother-in-law), and DOJ-aligned figures, creating a coordinated dynamic against Candace.

People like you should go to hell. Everyone knows what you're about. You can't do anything to me; I'm protected because of my ties to the Trump administration. I know there's antisemitism because I helped Trump win the election. If you were in America, I'd find you and go after your family. That's why you're hiding in Mexico.

"The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and quote dangerous. 'Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.' 'Yeah. He was not an anti Semite. He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous.' He was 'a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace,' 'the opposite,' and he was 'very stung by that.' 'Charlie was deeply offended by that' and expressed some of those feelings on Megyn Kelly show and in other places, but that did not let up. The story is told because he called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him every single time, 'look, I've got my own way to communicate my views.' This is actually not the most important issue to me. There are lots of things I can talk about. I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off no problem. I hated seeing how much he was suffering, the hassle he was getting from people, and I was attacked too. By the way, it was a huge effort. I wasn't fully aware of it actually because I don't go online."

What’s the purpose of this? Why are you confronting this man? I don’t want you on the phone. Is it because you’re anti-Semitic? Did I miss something? Have you wronged this woman because you’re Jewish? I’m Jewish too. What are you going to do to me? “F*** the Jew”? Hold on. Don’t touch me. I want ISIS to kill all of you. Alright, someone call the cops. I’m conspiring with them. This is going to the FBI. Holy cow.

A person sent the speaker antisemitic messages, including calling Jewish people "kaiks," saying Hitler should have burned millions more, and listing Jews in fake news, claiming Jewish people rise to the top due to their high IQ. The speaker responded by calling the sender a racist and a fraud, and stated they would debit the sender's bank account. The speaker believes this behavior is a bad representation of the MAGA and Q movements. Another person claims Dustin is a psyop working for the Jews, focused on outcasts, homosexuals, and pedophiles, and that he admires Jews and believes they are a superior race. They allege Dustin is a drug addict who sold drugs on school property and worked as a gay stripper and prostitute. They further claim Dustin believes he and his fellow Jews are gods and that he invented the two-sided dildo.

He recounts being told, while offline at the synagogue, that Candice is really going after him, and he describes the effect of turning his phone on to see all the notifications and messages. He says he was up until 3AM local time dealing with the barrage of messages and emails. He distinguishes this experience from ordinary pushback, stating that this is not a response to a legal theory or a constructive debate about the two-state solution, but rather “picking a Jewish person and calling him subhuman filth and sinking your band of millions and millions of neo Nazi zealots on a Jewish person who happens to be a … husband and father to a young child.” He emphasizes the severity and ugliness of the harassment, characterizing it as “awful, awful stuff.” He then shifts to his own perspective, noting publicly (as far as he believes) that he is talking to lawyers about the matter. As a lawyer with a background that includes clerking for a federal appeals judge, he states that he “knows a thing or two about United States constitutional law.” He says there is “potentially serious case here for defamation” and that he is “very much speaking with lawyers,” with the outcome still to be determined—“we’ll see what happens.” He frames the situation as a confrontation that goes beyond typical professional disagreement, involving targeted hatred toward a Jewish individual who is described as a husband and father. Throughout, he underscores the personal toll of the online harassment, contrasting it with his professional experience and legal considerations. He communicates a sense of urgency and concern about the legal and reputational implications, while indicating he is actively seeking legal counsel to assess possible defamation avenues. The overall message centers on the severity of the targeted harassment, its anti-Jewish intensity, and the potential legal response he may pursue.

You're a baby killer and a nasty human being. You support nothing but war. I can't stand people like you. You're lucky we're in America; otherwise, I'd confront you directly. I will report you to the police and the FBI for your threats. It's all recorded. You walk around threatening lives, and that's unacceptable. No one has a problem with Jews, but people like you give them a bad name. You're a hypocrite and a disgrace. You enjoy violence and killing innocent people. You're a piece of work, and I want nothing to do with you. Get out of my face and stop filming me.

Speaker 0 describes the backlash: "The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away." He adds: "I am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat. I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath. I visit Israel and fight for it." He asserts identity and support: "Yes. I'm an American citizen." "Yes. I want Israel to win." "But my moral character is now being put into question." He emphasizes the impact of online discourse: "Well, you and I believe that we're Americans and Americans first, period. End of story. We are citizens of this nation." He cites: "And the thing about Epstein is just so bizarre. I don't know who he was an agent for. It might have been Israel or an asset, or it might have been nobody, but we're allowed to speculate about that. It's like just some rule. You can't go there when it comes to Israel." He concludes with: "I love Israel."