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"The amount of energy required to melt the girders, the steel in the tower, cannot be gotten to a melt point with the fuel that was in the airplane." "Not possible." "So any melting did not occur as a result of the hit from the airplane." "What are the puffs of smoke coming from? Well, they claim they're from the collapsing floors." "No, no, no. Those puffs of smoke are controlled demolitions." "That's exactly what they are, because that's exactly how they work." "The collapse of the building was caused by controlled demolition." "Building 7, the owner. He is heard on the video. Okay? And he says, pull it. It's pull it." "And they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse." "And that's when the LINK-seven blew up."

Building 7 was not hit by an airplane. The speaker admits to previously attacking people who questioned 9/11. The speaker states they are now ashamed of this behavior, but admits to doing it on tape more than once. The speaker claims their reasoning at the time was that questioning 9/11 was divisive. The speaker concludes that they were a child and an idiot at the time.

The speaker believes it's impossible for a plane alone to penetrate the World Trade Center towers, suggesting bombs exploded simultaneously with the plane impact. The speaker claims the building's unique construction, with steel on the outside, should have made it impenetrable. Another speaker describes seeing the plane impact Building Number 2 and an explosion erupting from the other side almost instantly. The first speaker reiterates the belief that the planes contained more than just fuel and were traveling at high speed, seemingly descending into the building to gain additional momentum. The speaker emphasizes the buildings' robust construction with heavy-caliber steel, asserting the destruction was caused by more than just the planes. The speaker concludes that the country has fundamentally changed.

Speaker 1 discusses the collapse of building 7 and requests a video clip to be shown. Speaker 0 mentions that the collapse is not shown and suggests there might be a code preventing it. Speaker 0 also mentions that questioning the collapse of building 7 is seen as weird and can lead to job loss. Speaker 2 explains that building 7 collapsed on September 11, 2001, despite not being hit by an aircraft. The building had been damaged by debris and fire, but most of the fires were extinguished by 5:20 PM. Speaker 2 questions the official explanation that the collapse was primarily due to fire and asks for opinions on what it looks like.

The speaker believes 9/11 will be the biggest scandal in American history due to available recorded and personal information. They criticize reporters who label people as "conspiracy theorists," claiming agencies create conspiracies and have courses to discredit individuals. The speaker calls for a commission with people of integrity to study the facts and allow architects and firefighters to testify under oath. They allege subtle pressure exists to prevent firefighters and officers from speaking out. The speaker claims firefighters are being taken for granted and will rise up to shake the country. The speaker states that people on tape reported hearing explosions and that the buildings were designed to withstand airplane impacts. They highlight Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, imploded. The speaker recounts Oriole Palmer's ascent in one of the towers, reporting manageable fires on the 78th floor moments before the building's collapse, which they deem abnormal. The speaker suggests the collapses resembled controlled demolitions.

The speaker describes witnessing a building collapse, with windows breaking and the bottom floor caving in. Another speaker recalls watching a show where Larry Silverstein, the owner of World Trade Center 7, mentioned that the building was brought down through controlled demolition. The speaker confirms that Silverstein used those words. There is a mention of a phone call where someone suggests pulling the building due to the inability to contain a fire. The speaker also mentions contacting the History Channel to inquire about the show, but it was not available to the public. The cause of the collapse is uncertain, whether it was engineered for safety or a result of the collisions.

Speaker 0 asserts that 9/11 was a MacLeod operation and emphasizes that the third World Trade Center building (WTC 7) went down as evidence; he argues that if one building was wired for demolition, all of them were. He states that after showing this to contacts at the Army War College and the headquarters Marine Corps, it became clear to him that 9/11 was a controlled demolition scenario. He claims that 09/11 led directly to sixty thousand Americans dead and wounded, and suggests hundreds of thousands more in other countries were killed, wounded, or made homeless. He warns that if Americans ever understand that Israel did this, they will “scrub them off the earth” and will not care about the cost, implying that Zionists are conducting an all-or-nothing strategy because losing this would end them. He contends that it will be a “bloody brutal war” and that the Zionists are “gone” if Americans realize what happened. He reiterates that three buildings went down, with the third not being hit by a plane, and that it was wired for controlled demolition, implying all of them were. He describes presenting a picture and asking others to simply look at it without argument, and states that, without exception, they concluded that they did it on 9/11. Speaker 1 recalls that at the time of the event, he did not know who did it, but based on his experience in the Marine Corps and in demolition, it was definitely a controlled blast, a controlled drop, and that this could not be denied.

The speaker believes it's impossible for a plane alone to penetrate the World Trade Center towers, suggesting bombs exploded simultaneously with the plane impact. The speaker claims the building's unique construction, with steel on the outside, should have made it impenetrable. Another speaker describes seeing the plane impact Building Number 2 and an explosion erupting from the other side almost instantly. The first speaker reiterates the belief that the planes contained more than just fuel and were traveling at high speeds, seemingly descending into the building to gain additional momentum. The speaker emphasizes the buildings' robust steel construction and concludes that the destruction was caused by more than just the planes themselves. The speaker believes the event has fundamentally changed the country.

The speakers discuss their views on Building 7 and the 9/11 attacks. Speaker 0 believes that the buildings came down due to isolated pockets of fire or controlled demolition. They express frustration with conspiracy theories and wish those who promote them would be kicked out. Speaker 1 mentions the history of government-sponsored terror and questions whether the government was involved in 9/11. Speaker 0 dismisses these ideas, stating that real evidence is needed before making such claims. Speaker 1 argues that the implications are significant and that evidence withheld by the government should be released. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of making things worse for the victims' families.

The speaker witnessed the collapse of a building after a shockwave and windows breaking. In 2004, they saw Larry Silverstein on a show where he mentioned that Building 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition. The speaker contacted the History Channel to obtain a copy of the show but was told it was not available. Questions remain about whether the building's collapse was due to safety measures or the earlier attacks.

The speaker believes 9/11 will be the biggest scandal in American history due to available recorded and personal information. They accuse agencies of creating conspiracies and discrediting people as "conspiracy theorists." The speaker calls for a commission with people of integrity to study the facts and allow architects and firefighters to testify under oath. The speaker claims there's pressure on firefighters not to talk, and those who do are sidelined. They assert that people on tape reported hearing explosions during the event. They state the buildings were designed to withstand a plane impact, and that Building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, imploded. The speaker recounts the story of Battalion Chief Oriole Palmer, who reached the 78th floor and reported they could handle the fires one minute before the building collapsed, which the speaker finds abnormal and unacceptable. They suggest the collapses resembled controlled demolitions.

The speaker discusses the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. They question the official explanation that the collapses were solely caused by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires. The speaker highlights the uniform collapse of Building 7 and suggests that controlled demolition may have been involved. They mention the presence of explosive material in the dust samples and the suspicious elevator renovation prior to the attack. The speaker also mentions suppressed testimonies from firefighters regarding explosions in the buildings. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation.

Speaker 1: "Well, it was an architectural defect." He says the World Trade Center was "always known as a very, very strong building" and notes "took a big bomb in the basement"—"the basement is the most vulnerable place"—yet "the building was standing solid, and half of the columns were blown out." He adds, "I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that wall." He asserts "this one was built from the outside, which is the strongest structure you can have, and it was almost just like a can of soup." Speaker 2: "within a matter of millisecond, the explosion pops out the other side." Speaker 1: "there were very big planes... going very rapidly" and "to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you're talking about taking out steel, the heaviest caliber steel that was used on a building." Speaker 3: "A plane doesn't do that." "If he was an insider, he wouldn't have said that." Speaker 5: "it's tremendous power and tremendous heat," "tremendous amounts of fuel that was dumped on the building" and "1,600 degrees temperature"

Speaker 0: Probably the best known builder, particularly of of of great buildings in the city. There's a great deal of question about whether or not the damage and and the ultimate destruction of the buildings was caused by the airplanes, by architectural defect, or possibly by bombs or or aftershocks. Do you have any thoughts on that? Speaker 1: Well, it was an architectural defect. You know, the World Trade Center was always known as a very, very strong building. Don't forget, that took a big bomb in the basement. Now the basement is the most vulnerable place because that's your foundation, and it withstood that. And I got to see that area about three or four days after it took place because one of my structural engineers actually took me for a tour because he did the building. And I said, I can't believe it. The building was standing solid, and half of the columns were blown out. I mean, so this was an unbelievably powerful building. If you know anything about structure, it was one of the first buildings that was built from the outside. The steel, the reason the World Trade Center had such narrow windows is that in between all the windows, you had the steel on the outside. So you had the steel on the outside of the building. That's why when I first looked and you had big heavy I beams. When I first looked at it, I couldn't believe it because there was a hole in the steel. And this is steel that was you remember the the width of the windows in the World Trade Center folks? I think you you know, if you're ever up there, they were quite narrow. And in between was this heavy steel. I said, how could a plane, even a plane, even a seven sixty seven or seven forty seven or whatever it might have been, how could it possibly go through this deal? I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because I just can't imagine anything being able to go through that wall. Most buildings are built with the steelers on the inside around the elevator shaft. This one was built from the outside, which is the strongest structure you can have, and it was almost just like a like a can of soup. Speaker 2: You know, Donald, we were looking at pictures all morning long of that plane coming into Building Number 2. And when you see that approach the far side and then all of a sudden, within a matter of millisecond, the explosion pops out the other side. Speaker 1: Right. I just think that there was a plane with more than just fuel. I think, obviously, they were very big planes. They were going very rapidly because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast, it seemed to be coming down into the building. So it was getting the speed from going downhill, so to speak. It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you're talking about taking out steel, the heaviest caliber steel that was used on a building. I mean, these buildings were rock solid, And, you know, it's just an amazing it's an amazing thing. Speaker 3: And it's not right to call up and then extrapolate and connect him to 09:11 when he came out on the day of 09:11 and the day after on Fox and on CNN and said, I believe there had to be bombs in those buildings. It was brought down by explosives. A plane doesn't do that. And then described the architecture of Tower 1 and Tower 2. If he was an insider, he wouldn't have said that. Speaker 4: A lot of people ask, how is it possible that, a Boeing plane would be able to destroy the or two planes would be able to destroy the Twin Towers because they were constructed to withstand like a 07/2007 Speaker 5: attack. It's tremendous power and tremendous heat, and people were willing to die. And when they're willing to die and when they're willing to become kamikazes of a sense, there's very little you can do about it. I mean, the the heat and the power actually, it was amazing that the the initial jolts didn't jar the building as much as people would have thought. But the the tremendous amounts of fuel that was dumped on the building and 1,600 degrees temperature, I guess that's probab

Speaker 0 asks if the government was involved in the 9/11 attack and if there is a conspiracy. Speaker 1 disagrees, but believes it's the first time fire has melted steel. They mention the collapse of World Trade Center 7 and suggest it couldn't have fallen without explosives. Speaker 0 asks who is responsible, and Speaker 1 admits they don't know but insists it was an implosion. They suggest looking at films and consulting physics experts to understand. Speaker 1 says it's unthinkable, but if someone could prove it, it would be significant.

The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, focusing on the collapse of Building 7. They argue that the building's uniform collapse indicates controlled demolition rather than fire damage. Comparing it to a stack of cast iron stoves, they suggest that the intact structure below should have slowed the collapse. The speaker believes there is more to the story than just planes and fire.

Eyewitnesses describe explosions at the World Trade Center, with initial confusion about the cause. Some report seeing a plane strike the tower, while others claim it was a bomb. A professor alleges 9/11 was an inside job, claiming the government's OBL story is fiction. He suggests a frame-by-frame analysis of the South Tower impact reveals a "cartoon display," arguing an aluminum plane couldn't penetrate the building as depicted. Others claim there was no plane visible in certain shots. Eyewitnesses describe a large explosion sound and debris, with one reporting the elevator blew up. Another witness near the Pentagon claims there was no plane debris, just a hole in the ground. Some suggest the collapse of the towers resembled a controlled demolition, citing consecutive "bangs" and a waterfall-like descent. One person claims it's impossible for a building to collapse like that unless all columns are blown up simultaneously. A reporter references the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 during a live broadcast while the building was still standing. A speaker claims the government's conspiracy theory involves Islamic radicals armed with box cutters defeating the air defense system, and questions whether to believe the government or the people who lived through it.

The speaker claims the only high-rise buildings to collapse from airplane impacts were the World Trade Center towers. They cite an architect's report stating the buildings were designed to withstand such impacts. One speaker says the collapses defied physics, stating that the upper sections should have destroyed the lower sections, not crushed them. Another speaker says the collapse of Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, resembled a controlled demolition. A fire battalion chief, Oriole Palmer, reported being on the 78th floor, the floor of impact, and said they had two fires under control one minute before the building collapsed. The speaker alleges a cover-up related to 9/11, claiming the 9/11 Commission was part of it, led by Philip Zelikow, who was allegedly handpicked by Condoleezza Rice. They say Zelikow met with Tony Schaeffer in Afghanistan and then targeted him upon his return to the US. The speaker says they called it a scandal bigger than Watergate.

We saw a building collapse after a shockwave ripped through it, and Larry Silverstein mentioned in a TV show that Building 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition. He stated that the decision to "pull it" was made due to safety concerns. The speaker contacted the History Channel about the show but was told it was not available to the public. The cause of Building 7's collapse remains uncertain, whether it was intentional or a result of the earlier attacks.

The speaker questions the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks, focusing on the collapse of Building 7. They argue that the building's collapse was not due to fire but rather controlled demolition, citing evidence such as the presence of explosive material in dust samples and reports of unusual elevator renovations prior to the attacks. The speaker also mentions suppressed testimonies from firefighters about explosions in the building. They express feeling threatened while advocating for a new investigation.

In the discussion, the collapse of Building 7 is debated through direct claims by several speakers. Speaker 0 states, "I saw Building 7 come down, and it was a controlled demolition. A classic controlled demolition." Speaker 1 counters with skepticism, arguing that "That building had no reason to come down. There's no history of a high rise fire and a fireproof resulting in failure of the building because the building is, in New York City, parlance, a class one, which is a single word, fireproof." The exchange shifts toward accountability and transparency. Speaker 2 asserts, "I demand to know, as should everyone, especially the media, why important testimony from made that day from over a 150 police, firefighters, and first responders regarding explosions wasn't included in the commission report nor investigated further." The conversation then moves to specific explosive claims. Speaker 3 contends, "It was a secondary explosion, probably a device either planted before or on the aircraft that did not explode until a hour later. I'm gonna call the vehicle right now. You gotta get back to me. Five minutes and the elevators exploded on us." A sense of urgency and confusion is conveyed, with a voice adding, "We we we we said something's wrong here. I mean, the plane hit up on the Eightieth Floor. I mean, fuck. In five minutes, all of a sudden, now the elevator's exploding on the first level in the lobby?" Personal losses and the human cost are underscored. Speaker 0 reflects on the impact on his own life, saying, "And it's the first thing I think of when I get up in the morning, and it's the last thing at night before I go to bed. I lost Tommy O'Hagan, Kenny Kompel, and Bruce Van Hynes that day." The conversation culminates with a tribute to fallen colleagues. Speaker 2 notes, "343 firefighters, including three of my good friends, Thomas Hetzel, Bobby Evans, and Mike Keefer, perished that day. And these were some of the best and the bravest people in the world. And they, along with the rest of those who were murdered and died horrible deaths, deserve justice."

Speaker 0 asserts that 9/11 is the biggest lie of our lifetime and that he was on-site, believing it may have been a false flag. He states it is obvious to him that Building 7 was a controlled demolition because the building collapses from the bottom down, a uniform collapse requiring all load-bearing columns to fail simultaneously; he contrasts this with the Twin Towers, which he says collapse top-down in a progressive collapse. He notes that the trade centers were designed to withstand jet impacts and, referencing his experience in heavy construction, describes the outer columns as a “fishnet” and the inner core columns as thick steel beams capable of withstanding four to five times the loads. He claims engineers routinely over-design buildings. He mentions that dust samples contained what is called thermitic material, described as an explosive incendiary, and cites documented reports. He alleges extensive elevator renovations in the two to three years prior to 9/11, that many workers had access to the cores of the buildings, and that on the day of the attack the elevator company would not assist in elevator operations and subsequently went out of business. He references sworn firefighter testimonies a couple of years after 9/11 about explosions in the buildings and asserts these were suppressed, as Building 7 was ignored in the 9/11 Commission Report. Regarding Al Qaeda, he contends that Al Qaeda’s role is something he does not think exists, suggesting it is made up. He recalls the FBI’s 2006 statement that there was no concrete evidence linking Osama bin Laden with 9/11 and notes that Osama bin Laden worked for the CIA in Afghanistan, helping fight the Russians, and that the CIA helped orchestrate 9/11, calling it “their plan.”

Speaker 1 discusses his involvement in 9/11-related inquiries after receiving concerns from families. He emphasizes the role of whistleblowers who fear disclosure of anonymity, noting that while his office is good at protecting identities, not every congressional office is. He credits investigative reporters for bringing information forward and explains that his involvement began when nine/eleven families approached him with a heavily redacted FBI report on Saudi involvement, asking for it to be unredacted. He mentions that Richard Blumenthal is the chairman of PSI in the last Congress and that the inquiry extended to topics like the PGA Tour’s deal with Live Golf and Saudi Arabia, but that those are private matters not to be intruded upon. He says, however, that due to the redacted FBI document about Saudi involvement, he started gathering information and is currently in a position to review it, with an invitation to the audience to share information, though with the expectation that information will be debunked by his staff. He notes his own background from Oshkosh, Wisconsin, and that he initially accepted the prevailing narrative about 9/11 but began receiving information from sources that challenged it, leading him to pursue a more open investigation. He stresses that his staff’s primary goal is to obtain information and debunk it, to poke holes in the claims, and that he does not want to avoid discussing the topic. He acknowledges there are many legitimate questions that he is willing to ask, starting with World Trade Center 7, a building he had not heard of before. He asks why it is so difficult to discuss these topics and why legitimate questions seem to be quashed, suggesting there is something unexplained that has not been disclosed. He mentions public reception, including hostile comments online, and notes that many Americans had never heard of World Trade Center 7. Speaker 1 describes the scene surrounding WTC7, including a BBC reporter on air describing its collapse while the building still appears to be standing behind her. He points to a video that appears to show a single perspective of the event and references a later interview with a controlled demolition expert who asserted it was controlled demolition, though this assertion predates the event. He emphasizes that the building collapsed on September 11, and there are unanswered questions. He recounts Graham McQueen’s investigation before his death, who compiled approximately 150 documented recordings from first responders and reporters on the morning of 9/11 who said they heard explosions. He states that the 9/11 Commission and NIST did not discuss these explosions. He mentions Barry Jennings, who was in Building 7, who had to evacuate, but could not gather because the stairwell between the 6th and 8th floors had been blown out.

Speaker 3 launches a documentary-style indictment of Tucker Carlson, asserting he has “many connections Tucker Carlson has to the CIA and other groups,” that Carlson is “leading a major part of America off a cliff with his false conservative platform,” and that he is “a total shill, a puppet being used to distribute propaganda.” The speaker argues the left-right paradigm is false, claiming CIA agents train people in media propaganda regardless of network (CNN or Fox). Anderson Cooper is cited as an example, with the claim he interned at the CIA and was born into the Vanderbilt family, making him the face of CNN and Carlson the face of Fox. The speaker then traces Carlson’s background in detail: born 05/16/1969 in San Francisco; his father Richard Carlson divorced and remarried Patricia Swanson; Carlson attended multiple boarding schools in Switzerland and Rhode Island; graduated from Trinity College in 1991. The claim is made that Carlson attempted to join the CIA after graduation but was denied, with the suggestion that his journalism path was encouraged by his well-connected father. The narrative then catalogs Carlson’s father’s career: Richard Carlson started in journalism as a copy boy at the Los Angeles Times and a UPI reporter; later worked at several LA and San Diego outlets; became involved with San Diego Federal Savings and Loan (headed by Gordon Luce, a Reagan-era figure); ran for mayor of San Diego in 1984 and lost; Reagan announced his nomination to the United States Information Agency in 1986; served as Director of Voice of America, described as a propaganda broadcasting division; VOA is linked to the CIA, with the assertion that its purpose shifted from abroad broadcasting to domestic and international propaganda, including a CIA black site in Thailand (Cat’s Eye/Detention Site Green). The father’s later roles included ambassador to the Seychelles and CEO of King World Public Television; he became vice chairman of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (an Israel-lobby-linked group). The speaker asserts that Carlson’s path mirrors his father’s, arguing that Carlson’s early journalism work included policy review (Heritage Foundation publication), where Heritage Foundation’s founders (Paul Wyrick, Edwin Feulner, Joseph Coors) are described as influential, with Feulner allegedly connected to KCIA donations and UN reform task forces linked to CFR and the Project for the New American Century. The Heritage Foundation’s funding is linked to Coors, Chase Manhattan, Pfizer, Dow, Sears, GM, Amoco, Mobil, with David Rockefeller’s Chase Manhattan leadership invoked to support broader conspiratorial links among the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, CFR, and related networks. The claim is made that Buckley and Crystal (William Crystal) were CIA-connected or staffed, and that Tucker Carlson’s journalism career spanned outlets including Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Weekly Standard, New York Magazine, Reader’s Digest, Slate, Esquire, The New Republic, The New York Times, The Daily Beast, The Wall Street Journal, and television work for CNN, PBS, MSNBC, before Fox News. The video then connects Carlson to Murdoch’s News Corporation (which also owned The Weekly Standard) and to Genie Energy, with other board members named such as Jacob Rothschild and James Woolsey; Carlson’s overlap with Rockefeller- and Rothschild-linked networks is highlighted, including Charlie Rose’s Vanity Fair article about a Rothschild–Rockefeller merger and Rose’s program history. The speaker argues “these overlaps” explain why Carlson ridicules 9/11 skeptics and avoids addressing Rothschilds on his show, implying his gatekeeping role. A separate segment covers a Washington, DC climate-conspiracy joke by a city official about Rothschilds controlling the climate, followed by a joking discussion about microaggressions at UC Santa Cruz. Speaker 3 reiterates the claim that Carlson is “CIA?” and contends mainstream media is controlled, citing Operation Mockingbird as a precedent. The speaker concludes that even if direct government documentation isn’t present, Carlson’s numerous connections and the overlaps among the elites make his CIA linkage plausible to believe, urging viewers to do their own research and turn off the television. The transcript then shifts to a late-appearing discussion involving a Ron Paul event in Minneapolis (2008) with speakers debating 9/11, Building 7, and government involvement, with participants sharing mixed views on 9/11 conspiracy theories, evidence, and the appropriate stance on such claims. Towards the end, Steven Jones, a Brigham Young University physicist, offers a televised segment presenting a hypothesis that explosives might have contributed to the World Trade Center collapses, including Building 7, mentioning molten metal in basements, thermite, and a kink in the collapse symmetry, while acknowledging FEMA’s report noting only a low probability for the conventional (fire) hypothesis and calling for further investigation. The exchange ends with a brief acknowledgment of the need for follow-up by viewers. A final red-string/prophecy monologue introduces a biblical-tinged conspiracy frame involving “Jews” and “the red string,” Rahab the harlot, and spies, cutting off before a concluded point.

The discussion centers on the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on 9/11, which was not hit by a plane. A video clip shows the building's collapse, described as reminiscent of a controlled demolition. One speaker recalls news reports announcing the building's collapse before it happened. Another speaker, with a background in fire protection and insurance, states that a 47-story building doesn't typically collapse due to fire. One speaker admits to previously attacking 9/11 conspiracy theorists but now questions the official narrative, particularly regarding Building 7. An Alaskan structural engineering professor's four-year study allegedly debunks the NIST analysis of the collapse. Molten steel was reportedly present in the Twin Towers. The symmetrical nature of Building 7's collapse is questioned, with one speaker suggesting it resembles a controlled demolition. One speaker suggests they broadened the Overton window on the topic because they were part of the cover-up and feel guilty.