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The speaker confirms that the videotapes of Cassidy Hutchinson, where she changed her testimony, are missing. All the videotapes of depositions are gone, which was discovered early in the investigation. The speaker wrote a letter to Benny Thompson requesting the tapes, but they were not preserved. Despite airing portions of the tapes on televised hearings, they were not kept. The speaker believes the tapes exist somewhere and emphasizes their importance. They explain that body language and voice inflection are crucial in understanding Cassidy's original testimony and why it's necessary to have the videos.

The speaker claims someone is lying about a conversation and has fabricated components of it. The speaker reveres the office of the presidency and will keep the readout confidential, but asserts the individual in question has been a "stone cold liar" regarding their discussion. The speaker states the National Guard was never discussed. The speaker would like to share what was actually discussed, claiming it would be shocking, but attorneys prevent them from doing so.

The discussion centers on accusations about government actions and the handling of whistleblowers. Speaker 0 argues that the FBI is examining the situation “to chill speech” and to silence Democratic members of Congress and other elected leaders who speak out against Trump. According to Speaker 0, the motive is to stop them from speaking out. Speaker 1 pushes back by asking for clarification, wondering what exactly should be stopped. The question arises: “Stop what?” and “you’re saying that you believe that inherent in the video is that Donald Trump has given illegal orders.” Speaker 0 responds that he will speak about Congress’s role in whistleblower protections, noting that there have been whistleblowers in the Biden administration as well as in past administrations. He emphasizes that Congress has a responsibility to ensure that whistleblowers inside the federal government and the military have protections, wherever they are located in government. Speaker 1 suggests that the message might be read as Democrats encouraging the military to defy the commander in chief over current orders that cannot be named, but Speaker 0 contests this reading, implying a misinterpretation of the message. In trying to clarify, Speaker 0 states: “Here's what I believe. I believe that regardless of the president, no one in our military should actually follow through with unconstitutional orders.” He asserts this as his belief, though he concedes uncertainty about other specifics: “I’m saying regardless. I don’t know. Regardless of justice. I’m not. I’m not understanding.” Throughout, the exchange centers on the tension between protecting whistleblowers and the implications of political messaging about the president and military obedience. Speaker 0 maintains that Congress must safeguard whistleblower protections across federal government and military contexts, citing the Biden administration as an example and noting similar protections have occurred in other administrations. Speaker 1 probes the interpretation of the video and the intent behind messages that might appear to call for disobeying orders or challenging the president, while Speaker 0 reiterates a belief in the obligation to refuse unconstitutional orders, independent of which president is in office.

The speaker expresses frustration over the leaking of a classified document to The New York Times while a nonclassified document cannot be made public. They argue that the document should be released without unnecessary redactions for transparency. The speaker mentions that a foreign national allegedly has audio recordings of conversations with Joe and Hunter Biden, which were kept as an insurance policy. They criticize the Justice Department and FBI for not focusing on the Biden family and call for the release of the full document to hold them accountable. The speaker emphasizes the importance of congressional oversight and transparency, stating that they have read the unredacted version of the document.

In the excerpt, the discussion centers on a torture video and questions surrounding redactions and the handling of victims. The key points are: - It is stated that Sultan Ahmed bin Suleyman Suleyem sent the torture video to Epstein in 2009. The transcript presents Epstein’s replies within that exchange, including: “Where are you? Are you okay?” and, reflecting a mix of fascination and distress, “I love the torture video. Jeez. I am in China. I’ll be in The US May. What the fuck, man?” - There is a strong focus on why a person’s name is redacted. The speaker presses: “Why is his name redacted? Why would your name be redacted if you're not a victim? Like, this is what's crazy about all this. Like, how come you redact some people and you don't redact other people? Like, what is this?” - The broader political critique follows, with the speaker asserting that “This is not good. None of this is good for this administration. It looks fucking terrible. It looks terrible. It looks terrible for Trump when he was saying that none of this was real.” The speaker emphasizes that “This is all a hoax” as claimed by Trump and argues against that framing: “This is not a hoax. Like, did you not know? Maybe he didn't know if you wanna be charitable, but this is definitely not a hoax.” - The speaker questions the credibility and transparency of disclosures: “And if you've got redacted people's names and these people aren't victims, you're not protecting the victims. So what are you doing?” This leads to a demand for more transparency: “And how come all this shit is not released?” Overall, the excerpt juxtaposes a reportedly circulated torture video linked to a named individual with concerns about redactions and victim protection, while interweaving political commentary about the administration and statements by Trump that claimed the matters were a hoax, contrasting those claims with the speaker’s insistence that the situation is not a hoax and warrants fuller release of information.

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

The speaker states they have referred documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate potential criminal implications, including those for former President Obama. According to the speaker, evidence directly points to President Obama leading the manufacturing of an intelligence assessment. The speaker claims there are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence confirming this.

Senator Hawley questions Mr. Abadi about the existence of a document that alleges the President has received bribes from a foreign nation. Initially, the FBI director denied its existence, but later acknowledged it after Senator Grassley mentioned reading it. Senator Hawley asks why the document is not being released and if it is classified. Mr. Abadi confirms that the document is unclassified but does not commit to releasing it. Senator Hawley insists that the American people have the right to see it, suggesting that the source's name can be redacted.

The speaker questions the deletion of Secret Service cell phone records on January 6th and suggests that it hindered the investigation. They discuss the involvement of Secretary Mayorkas and the possible violation of the Federal Records Act. The speaker expresses concern about the lack of investigation into the presence of pipe bombs near Vice President Kamala Harris and the delayed response from the Secret Service. They criticize Mayorkas for not taking action and obstructing Congress. The speaker concludes by suggesting that further investigation is necessary and offers support for issuing a subpoena.

The speaker repeatedly refuses to disclose the name of the president's neurologist for security reasons. They confirm that the president has seen a neurologist three times during his presidency. Despite being pressed for details, the speaker maintains that they cannot reveal names due to privacy concerns. They emphasize that the president's medical information is comprehensive and in line with previous administrations. The speaker stands firm in their decision not to disclose specific names, regardless of the pressure they face.

The speaker discusses the FBI's "failed investigation" of the January 6th pipe bomb, alleging the FBI has no leads or suspects, has lost information and evidence, and that the Secret Service deleted all texts from January 6th. The speaker claims Steve D'Antuono said cell phone data that could have been used to find the bomber was corrupted. The speaker states that the FBI does not have video footage of the DNC from January 6th. The speaker asks if confidential human sources were involved in the pipe bomb incident. The other speaker responded they would have to refresh themselves on the information gathered to date. The speaker suggests getting the information public before the election.

Speaker 0 presents a very quick briefing and discusses the credibility of the different things they've seen. They say, "these files were made up by the sea. They were made up by Obama. They were made" as a claim about the files’ origin, with the sentence trailing off in the transcript.

The speaker is part of a senate bipartisan investigation into an assassination attempt. According to the speaker, the Secret Service and FBI are dragging their feet and not providing requested documents, such as 302s and interview transcriptions. Documents that are provided are heavily redacted and delivered the day of the interview, making them unusable. The speaker believes this behavior is suspicious and fuels conspiracy theories. They claim releasing the body for cremation before autopsy or toxicology reports further drives suspicion and conspiracy theories.

The speaker questions the FBI's practice of tipping off the subject of a search warrant before it is executed. They inquire about the FBI's contact with the protective detail of individuals and the potential undermining of investigations. The speaker expresses frustration with the lack of answers and accuses the FBI of a cover-up. Director Wray requests a 5-minute recess. The speaker acknowledges the frustration but explains that policies prevent discussing ongoing investigations. They mention that these policies were strengthened under the previous administration. The speaker concludes by stating that there is an obligation to call out corruption.

We received a couple hundred pages of documents from the FBI, but a source indicated more evidence was in the Southern District of New York. I gave them a deadline, and thousands of pages of documents arrived. The FBI and Director Patel's team are reviewing them to determine why these documents were initially withheld. While redacting to protect victims is crucial, we aim for maximum transparency, believing Americans deserve to know the truth. The Biden administration claimed no one acted on these documents, but why were they hidden? This same principle of transparency applies to the JFK files and other cases. When we redact, we will clearly mark the specific lines and explain the reason, such as protecting a victim's identity or national security.

Speaker 1 believes that the person in question lied to the justice department. They also think that this person is mischaracterizing the Presidential Records Act by claiming certain privileges and rights. Speaker 1 finds it absurd that this person can consider battle plans and national security information as personal papers. The Presidential Records Act was created to prevent presidents from taking official documents out of the White House, and it restricts what a president can take. Speaker 1 argues that these documents are not purely private and that the president's argument is absurd.

Documents are being suppressed to protect individuals, and the speaker knows the names of those individuals, why they're being suppressed, and who is suppressing them. However, the speaker is bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases and cannot disclose this information. The speaker knows the names of people whose files are being suppressed for protection, which they believe is wrong. The individuals being protected are politicians and business leaders, among others.

The speaker claims to know that documents are being suppressed to protect individuals, and knows the names of those individuals, why they are being suppressed, and who is suppressing them. However, the speaker states they are bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and cannot disclose what they know. When asked if those being protected are politicians, business leaders, or both, the speaker responds that they are everything.

The speaker claims to have found documents related to Jim Comey that were not where they should have been. The speaker says these documents are unflattering to Comey. The speaker asserts that Comey disgraced the FBI numerous times with his role in crossfire hurricane and other abominations. The speaker finds it stunning that Comey continues to attack their leadership when they are cleaning up the mess Comey created and continue to find things from his era.

Last week, I spoke about the FBI hiding an unclassified document, known as the 10/23, from Congress and the American people. The FBI eventually agreed to show the document to Congress, but it was heavily redacted. The 10/23 allegedly involves a bribery scheme between Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and a foreign national. The Justice Department then announced charges against former President Trump for mishandling classified records. This senator is committed to fighting political corruption in the Department of Justice and the FBI by promoting transparency. The 10/23 contains references to audio recordings of conversations between the foreign national and the Bidens. It is crucial for the American people to have access to the unredacted document to understand the truth and hold the FBI and Justice Department accountable. Congress must continue to fight for transparency and release the document without unnecessary redactions.

The FBI handed over hundreds of pages of documents, but a source revealed more evidence was in the Southern District of New York. Thousands of pages of documents were then received. The FBI is reviewing them, and Kash Patel will provide a detailed report on why the documents were withheld. The initial documents included flight logs, names, and victim names, but more was expected. The goal is to protect the Epstein victims, of which over 254 have been identified, while also providing transparency. The Biden administration allegedly did nothing with the documents, which raises questions. Redactions will be made to protect victims, national security, and grand jury information. The public will know what is redacted and why, unlike past practices. The speaker believes the American people have a right to know about the Epstein files, the JFK files, and the Martin Luther King files.

Speaker 0: Reclaiming time from Chairman, Hunter is avoiding my words. Speaker 1: House committees seek relevant info, but GOP misuses subpoenas for political gain, ignoring offers and leaking witness statements. Translation: Speaker 0 reclaims time from the Chairman as Hunter avoids their words. Speaker 1 mentions that House committees are seeking relevant information, but Republicans are misusing subpoenas for political purposes by ignoring offers and leaking witness statements.

Speaker 0 expresses concern about redactions in the released information, stating that privileged information was redacted even though it shouldn't have been. They mention that they have been requesting the last 50 pages for over a year. They argue that congressional oversight should not be subject to the same redactions as FOIA requests. They ask if the commitment will be made to provide the last 50 pages of communication related to the origin of the coronavirus. Speaker 1 responds by committing to follow up on the request and stating that the information should be provided in compliance with the law. Speaker 0 reiterates that redactions are not in compliance with the law.

The speaker mentions that a foreign national who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden has audio recordings of his conversations with them. There are 17 recordings in total, with 15 being phone calls between the foreign national and Hunter Biden, and 2 being phone calls between the foreign national and then vice president Joe Biden. These recordings were kept as an insurance policy by the foreign national. It is suggested that Joe Biden may have been involved in employing Hunter Biden. The speaker questions why the Justice Department and FBI haven't focused on the Biden family like they did with former president Trump. The relevance of these recordings to a bribery scheme is highlighted.

In the discussion, Congressmen Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie were shown viewing the unredacted Epstein files on Capitol Hill, including material that had been previously redacted by the DOJ. The hosts question why large portions of the files were redacted and accuse Pam Bondi’s team of noncompliance with the Epstein Transparency Act. They suggest the move to foreground Bondi is a signal of political maneuvering to manage the release of the documents. Speaker 1 presents a Super Bowl ad urging the DOJ to release what the law requires, followed by a note that Epstein’s associate and alleged child sex trafficking figure Ghislain (Ghislaine) Maxwell appeared before Congress and invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about the men who allegedly abused underage girls. Ro Khanna’s reaction is shared: Maxwell should not be in a cushy setting and should be sent back to maximum security. Speaker 2 emphasizes that, of the files released, the names of clients and coconspirators in the sex trafficking ring have not been disclosed, while victims’ names have been released. This is framed as either over-redaction or omission, with a claim that government names should not be redacted under the Transparency Act. Speaker 0 introduces Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who explains her perspective. She notes the urgency of transparency and states that victims deserve the truth, accusing the DOJ of failing to comply with the Epstein Transparency Act and calling out a persistent “battle” over the release of files even after the 2025 law. Speaker 3 (Greene) describes the impact of the disclosures, noting that the files reveal “violence, possibly murder,” and that survivors’ testimonies are harrowing. She recounts facing personal and political backlash for pushing disclosure, arguing that the administration and many Republicans have shifted their positions since the revelations. She asserts that the released files show that “the DOJ breaking the law” through redactions of names of former presidents, secretaries of state, and government officials, while leaving victim information exposed. Speaker 4 asks Greene about the possibility that the information might point to a broader, deeper network. Greene responds by stating that the files include FBI forms about Epstein, implying a level of official involvement, and asserts that the Trump administration has not released the information; she claims President Trump referred to the Epstein issue as a “Democrat hoax” and that Pam Bondi, who works for Trump, controls the release. Greene suggests the “independent counsel” would be the American people themselves, explaining distrust toward political figures and the two-party system. She shares that she would not vote to support foreign aid or a central bank digital currency, and notes the chilling effect of the retaliation she and Massey have faced from party structures, including loss of campaign staff and suggestions of political blacklisting. Speaker 0 asks about potential accountability or a special counsel and whether there might be more significant revelations. Greene predicts limited accountability, arguing that the president has influence over DOJ and other agencies, and that the people are the true independent counsel. She laments the “uni-party” dynamic and predicts continued resistance to releasing the full Epstein files. Towards the end, Greene reiterates that she does not plan to run for higher office and reflects on the broader political environment, emphasizing that the public’s demand for transparency could drive change. The dialogue closes with Greene expressing willingness to return and discuss further.