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Today, the speaker discusses the transmission and viral load of vaccinated individuals compared to unvaccinated individuals. They mention the example of Israel, where a professor from Tel Aviv hospital stated that 75% of hospitalized patients were vaccinated. The speaker argues against the narrative that vaccinated individuals are solely responsible for immunity. They emphasize that the disease has a low mortality rate and question the need for continued booster shots. The other speaker counters by stating that vaccines protect against severe forms of the virus, particularly for those under 60 years old. The conversation ends with a disagreement about the percentage of vaccinated individuals in hospitals.

80% of doctors are believed to have lost their minds. An anecdote was shared about a doctor who died shortly after receiving an mRNA gene therapy shot. Another similar incident was mentioned. The speaker emphasized the importance of listening to real stories to understand what is happening.

Please get vaccinated and encourage others to do the same. The unvaccinated are the only ones dying, and it's a shame that some people are spreading misinformation. Think about the unnecessary deaths caused by this. I can't understand how those who do this for a living can sleep at night.

In the autumn of 2021, Hugo de Jonge publicly stated on TV that 80 percent of the corona patients in hospitals were unvaccinated. The speaker, who was conducting research at the time, had precise hospital data on all corona patients and personally asked each patient whether they were vaccinated. They found that the actual percentage in their hospital was 35 percent, a substantial discrepancy from the 80 percent figure. The speaker and a colleague published the data online from their study, which was permissible because they were conducting integral scientific research and intended to publish whatever the results showed. However, they encountered significant pushback, which was largely political in nature. The backlash did not come from colleagues denying the data’s accuracy; instead, it came from political actors and environments. The speaker notes that the pushback included responses from political circles and not from medical colleagues or other scientists who would challenge the data. A notable example mentioned was pressure from the Forum for Democracy, with the implication that the data or its dissemination could be affected by the party’s interests. The speaker recalls being questioned about whether they would be retweeted or supported by that forum, and expresses astonishment at the idea that they would need to adjust their scientific conclusions to align with a political party’s interests. The core point emphasized is the discrepancy between the widely cited 80 percent unvaccinated figure and the speaker’s observed 35 percent within their hospital, and the subsequent political pushback encountered when publishing and sharing those findings.

Please get vaccinated and encourage others to do the same. The unvaccinated are the only ones dying, so it's crucial to address misinformation. Shame on those spreading false information, as people are needlessly losing their lives. It's hard to understand how some individuals can sleep at night knowing they contribute to this problem.

I just got vaccinated with the modified vaccine by Dr. Müller at the military hospital. Why did I do it? We need to understand that a Covid infection is not a common cold. It's a serious matter. For people over sixty or those with risk factors, the disease can lead to severe outcomes. There can also be long-term damage, like Long Covid.

If you're eligible for the vaccine and not getting it, you're being irresponsible. The omicron variant is highly contagious, and unvaccinated people will likely get it, putting a strain on healthcare. Almost half of ICU patients are unvaccinated. We need to persuade them to get vaccinated for their own good and the public's. It's crucial to increase vaccination efforts in developing countries.

The challenge we face is not allowing people who doubt science to work in hospitals. It is about ensuring that healthcare workers do not transmit communicable diseases to vulnerable individuals. We have realized that even vaccinated healthcare workers can transmit the disease. We need to guarantee that when healthcare workers interact with fragile individuals, they do not risk transmitting communicable diseases. It is complex to justify excluding unvaccinated negative healthcare workers while allowing positive vaccinated ones. Vaccination works, as those with two doses have a lower chance of contracting the disease. We rely on the advice of scientific authorities.

Vaccinated individuals may still get COVID, but are less likely to experience severe effects like ICU admission or death. Vaccines were introduced late in the pandemic, after the virus had become milder and treatment had improved. Studies show misclassification bias in reporting vaccinated vs. unvaccinated hospitalizations. Some reports indicate higher rates of hospitalization and death among the vaccinated. Risk of COVID increases with each vaccine dose. Post-vaccine deaths are concerning.

A professor mentioned that compared to last year, there are significantly fewer hospital admissions, ICU admissions, and deaths due to COVID-19. However, there are currently over 20,000 new cases, and the actual number may be higher due to free testing. Many of these cases are asymptomatic or among vaccinated individuals. It is important to note that while the vaccine is effective in preventing severe cases, it is only around 50% effective in preventing transmission. Most hospitalized patients are unvaccinated, but there are some cases of double-vaccinated individuals being admitted. This justifies the need for booster shots.

The delta variant has significantly altered the situation. The level of virus in the nasopharynx of a vaccinated individual with a breakthrough infection is now equivalent to that of an unvaccinated person who is infected. This finding prompted the CDC to revise its guidelines.

Speaker 0 says the NHS has a flu-vaccine problem: doctors, nurses, and other frontline NHS staff are shunning the flu jab. Speaker 0 claims that in ever greater numbers, almost nine in ten staff at one of England’s largest hospital trusts were unvaccinated last winter. Speaker 0 also distinguishes the flu vaccine from the coronavirus vaccine and remarks that they are unsure what changed in the last five years to make people suspicious of vaccines.

According to the CDC, vaccinated individuals don't carry or get sick from the virus, both in clinical trials and real-world data. However, reports from international colleagues, like Israel, indicate a higher risk of severe disease among those vaccinated early. This evidence raises concerns that the strong protection against severe infection, hospitalization, and death could decrease in the future, particularly for those at higher risk or vaccinated earlier during the rollout phases.

The speaker expresses skepticism about the number of COVID patients in hospitals and claims that most patients are vaccinated. They urge the media to tell the truth and ask for support. Another speaker, identified as a nurse, asks if they are seeing the same people in the hospital. The first speaker responds by mentioning serious adverse effects, specifically myocarditis in 20-year-olds, which can lead to cardiac transplants. They highlight the low organ donor rate in Australia. The conversation ends with a request for clarification.

In spring 2021, our ER was busier than ever due to a sudden surge in patients falling ill after COVID vaccines were introduced. We observed a significant rise in stroke cases, blood clots, heart issues, and paralysis. This shift in patient conditions highlights the impact of the pandemic on healthcare systems and the need to understand the full scope of what medical professionals have been facing.

The delta variant of COVID-19 is causing a rise in hospitalizations among unvaccinated Albertans. Vaccines provide excellent protection against infection and severe disease, even with the delta variant. We appreciate the 2.9 million Albertans who have been vaccinated. However, due to a large number of unvaccinated individuals, the delta variant is spreading widely and causing more severe outcomes in unvaccinated adults. Since July 1st, unvaccinated people aged 20-59 have a 50-60 times higher risk of hospitalization compared to those who are vaccinated. It is crucial to get vaccinated.

The speakers assert that if someone is unvaccinated, COVID-19—described as “hunting” or “tracking down” people—will find them. They repeat that a virus will seek out unvaccinated individuals and that infection will “seek out” people who are either unvaccinated or have only had one jab and are not fully protected. Speaker 0 and others claim that the Delta variant of COVID-19 has the potential to spread through an unvaccinated community “like wildfire,” describing it as “aggressive” and stating that “Delta is finding the unvaccinated” and “will find you.” The speakers also say the virus tends to find places that are under vaccinated, but not only in city centers—claiming it finds unvaccinated people wherever they are. One speaker says that even someone living “in the middle of the desert” can still be found if unvaccinated. Speaker 2 adds that the infection is being seen as finding unvaccinated people specifically, and that it does seem to be finding older people who have not received that third dose. They then state that ultimately the virus will “find just about everybody,” while also noting a particular set of cases: “these three people, two of them weren’t vaccinated,” and “one had just had the first dose,” after which “the virus was found.”

Speaker 0: Wat is er nu? Cresanter dan kerstfeest en dat zal niet gaan. Nieuwjaarsfeest, zal niet gaan. Dat is toch geweldig? Je kijkt er naar uit om samen te zijn. Dat zal niet gaan. De kleinkinderen, grootouders, familie. En dat is dood, dood jammer. Speaker 1: Op een bepaald moment moet je eigenlijk zeggen: de blok erop. Speaker 2: Verder zou ik er ook nog willen wijzen dat het geen zin heeft voor mensen om een masker te dragen wanneer ze in de straat wandelen. Je kan het virus niet krijgen door gewoon straat te wandelen en lucht in te ademen. Dat is onmogelijk. Speaker 1: Als 70 procent van de bevolking gevaccineerd is, is de hele groep beschermd. Speaker 2: De eerste resultaten zijn nu duidelijk in Israël aangetoond. 12 dagen na uw vaccinatie ben je niet meer besmet. Speaker 0: De grote meerderheid van de patiënten die wij nu opnemen zijn gevaccineerde mensen. Speaker 3: De patiënten die wij in GZH nu op intensieve hebben liggen, ik heb het gisteren nog nagekeken, die zijn eigenlijk allemaal gevaccineerd. Hoe gaan we dat controleren? Wat gaan we doen met mensen die regelrecht weigeren om dat te doen? Gaan we ze in de gevangenis gooien? Gaan we hen onbetaalbare boetes geven? Dus het is een verhaal om daar eens intellectueel over na denken. Speaker 1: Ik ga ervan uit dat de politiek, geeft, als je een belofte maakt, dan moet je die belofte ook houden.

The message we have been conveying from the beginning is that when you are vaccinated, you do not risk infecting others. Studies have shown that people who have received both doses of the vaccine have virtually no chance of contracting the disease. If everyone is vaccinated, there will no longer be any virus.

I got vaccinated and the next day I got Covid. My daughter got vaccinated and the next day she got Covid too. It's incredible. I'm not against vaccines, I've had all three doses. But it's strange because when I told the nurses about it, they said the same thing happened to them. They got Covid the day after their third dose. The only nurse who didn't get her third dose didn't get Covid. Now I'm worried because my son just got his third dose today.

In the UK and Israel, a significant percentage of COVID deaths are among fully vaccinated individuals. In the UK, 70% of COVID deaths are among the fully vaccinated, according to government documents. These numbers are not a conspiracy theory but are publicly available. In September, out of 1500 deaths, 1270 were fully vaccinated individuals. The majority of deaths in the UK are now among fully vaccinated individuals.

Vaccinated individuals are not less likely to get infected with COVID, but may have milder symptoms. Vaccines were introduced late in the pandemic, and data on vaccine status in hospitals may be inaccurate. Reports show a significant number of deaths following vaccination, raising concerns about vaccine safety globally. Calls have been made to remove these vaccines from the market due to their perceived dangers. Translation: Vaccinated people may still get COVID but might have less severe symptoms. Vaccine safety is being questioned due to reports of deaths following vaccination. There are concerns about the accuracy of hospital data on vaccine status.

After the initial promises of vaccination leading to regained freedoms, it has become clear that these claims are false. We are not free, nor are we protected, and the vaccine does not protect others. The only remaining argument is that the vaccine supposedly protects against severe forms of the virus. However, this claim is just as false as the others. The statistics presented to us categorize individuals as unvaccinated until fifteen days after the second dose, conveniently ignoring the high number of deaths that occur after the first dose. In countries with high vaccination rates, such as Israel, the number of deaths doubled in the two months following the injections. Very few countries have published data differentiating between those who have received zero doses and those who have received one, two, or three doses. Israel is one such country, and when comparing the mortality rates of the truly unvaccinated to those who have received one, two, or three doses, it becomes clear that the unvaccinated have a lower mortality rate and less severe forms of the virus. I urge all doctors not to believe in this new fantasy.

Please get vaccinated and encourage others to do the same. The unvaccinated are the only ones dying, so it's crucial to address misinformation. Shame on those spreading false information, as people are needlessly losing their lives. It's hard to understand how some individuals can sleep at night while making a living out of this.

Vaccines were not expected to fully prevent infection, and this may have caused confusion about their effectiveness against severe disease and hospitalization. While vaccines do help reduce severe outcomes, it's important to note that a significant portion of those who died during the omicron surge were older individuals who were vaccinated. Therefore, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated, the focus should be on testing and the use of paxlovid for treatment.