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Netanyahu said that we will go to war. What he meant was The United States will go to war for us. So Netanyahu has been the great champion of pushing America into endless wars for the last three decades. He was the big cheerleader of the Iraq war. A devastatingly wrong war sold on completely phony pretenses that Netanyahu cheerlead. And one can even go online and find his testimony to congress in October 2002 about how wonderful this war is going to be and how it's gonna lead to a breakout of freedom throughout the Middle East. He's full of it, and he's been full of it for nearly thirty years. The ongoing wars in Lebanon, in Syria, in Iraq, the recent so called twelve day war with Iran, which was a disgrace and a great danger.

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They lied, claiming Saddam was developing nuclear weapons. They said there were weapons of mass destruction, but there were none, and they knew it. They claimed removing Saddam would have enormous positive reverberations on the region. Going into Iraq may have been the worst decision any president has made in the history of the country. We should have never been in Iraq.

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President Bush and Biden supported the Iraq war due to concerns about weapons of mass destruction. Biden played a significant role in pushing for war authorization, dismissing limits on Bush's power. The war resulted in thousands of American and Iraqi deaths, injuries, and instability in the region. The connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda was false. Biden continued to support the war despite its devastating consequences. The American people were misled into the war based on false information. The war had far-reaching negative impacts, including increased terrorism.

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The war in Iraq was a mistake by George Bush. The U.S. should have never been in Iraq because it destabilized the Middle East. The speaker claims "they" lied about weapons of mass destruction, asserting that there were none.

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President Bush and Biden supported the Iraq war due to concerns about weapons of mass destruction. Biden played a significant role in pushing for war authorization, rejecting limits on Bush's power. The war resulted in thousands of American and Iraqi deaths, injuries, and instability in the region. Biden continued to support the war despite its devastating consequences. The false claims about Iraq's connections to Al Qaeda and weapons of mass destruction misled the public. The war's impact highlights the need to break the cycle of endless military interventions for a prosperous future.

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I was shocked to learn that President Obama had programs to overthrow the Syrian regime. The CIA's Timber Sycamore program armed Al Qaeda to start another regime change war in the Middle East. The DOD's train and equip program spent over half a billion dollars training "moderate rebels" who were actually aligned with Al Qaeda. Regime change wars in Syria, like in Iraq, Libya, and Egypt, risk the rise of Islamist extremists like Al Qaeda. We now have an Islamist extremist in charge of Syria who celebrated the 9/11 attack and is persecuting religious minorities like Christians. Every American deserves to know if our government supported our enemy, Al Qaeda.

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I was told we're going to war with Iraq without any solid reason, just because. Then, I found out there's a plan to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

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After 9/11, a general told me the decision to go to war with Iraq was made without evidence linking Saddam to Al Qaeda. Plans were revealed to take out 7 countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Military operations began in Iraq and Syria. The situation in Syria was discussed, acknowledging the distressing images coming out of the country.

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The speaker opens by citing James Madison, who wrote to Thomas Jefferson in 1789 that “the constitution supposes what the history of all governments demonstrates, that the executive branch of power is the most interested in war and most prone to it,” and notes that the constitution itself vests in the legislature the question of war (Article I, Section 8, Clause 11) while giving the president operational powers of war (Article II, Section 2, Clause 1). Even if one claimed the 1973 War Powers Resolution supersedes the constitutional language, the speaker argues the president has not met its conditions: the president may only introduce U.S. armed forces into hostilities under three circumstances—declaration of war, specific statutory authorization, or a national emergency created by an attack on the United States—none of which exist today because Iran has not attacked the United States, Congress has not declared war, and Congress has not granted specific statutory authorization. Beyond this constitutional framing, the speaker asks why the United States would go to war with Iran and emphasizes that servicemembers deserve a clear mission. He questions how such a war would help American families with groceries, housing, or safety in schools and neighborhoods. He cautions against past interventions in the Middle East, arguing they have produced a debt of at least $8 trillion from wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, and contends a sustained war with Iran will not stabilize the region but will radicalize new generations of terrorists and generate more refugees to Europe and the United States. The speaker argues Iran is not Venezuela, and that Ayatollah Khomeini was not a president but a religious leader in a region notorious for radical Islamists; he asserts that the United States and Israel turned him into a martyr, contributing to broader conflict and casualties, including six American families who have lost loved ones. He claims the administration cannot provide a straight answer for why the preemptive war was launched, noting contradictory statements about imminent Iranian strikes and the rationale of stopping a nuclear program. A candid answer, he says, came from the Secretary of State, who said Israel forced the United States to act, implying that Congress must decide war. If American lives are to be risked, that decision must be debated and voted on by representatives, and the debate should be arduous with a hard vote. He offers a theory that colleagues do not want to go on record due to a poor track record of meddling in the Middle East and a desire to avoid their names being associated with an unfavorable outcome. The speaker asserts Congress is not here to declare war today; the vote on the War Powers Resolution is to reassert that Congress must decide questions of war. Some say war is authorized by paying for it through the budget, but the speaker asserts that defining the mission for the troops is not included in the budget and has not been done. He thanks the men and women engaged in combat, prays for their safety, and states that the resolution is written for them—to ensure they know when they achieve their mission and can come home.

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I wanted to prevent terrorism in our country, but I couldn't talk about it before. However, now I talk about it all the time. We had no attacks like the World Trade Center or those in other countries. Now we're getting involved in the Middle East again, spending trillions of dollars and causing death and destruction. It's a shame. We defeated ISIS in just four months, beating their caliphate completely.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the possibility of striking Iran to eliminate its nuclear program and the broader implications of regime change. - Speaker 0 acknowledges arguments that Israel has wanted to dismantle Iran’s nuclear program, and that American involvement with B-52s and large bombs might be needed to finish the job. He notes the idea of a strike that proceeds quickly with minimal American casualties, under a Trump-era frame that Iran will not get a nuclear bomb. - He observes a shift among Washington’s neoconservative and Republican circles from opposing Iran’s nuclear capability to opposing Ayatollah rule itself, suggesting a subtle change in objectives while maintaining the theme of intervention. He concedes cautious support if Trump executes it prudently, but warns of a “switcheroo” toward regime change rather than purely disabling the nuclear program. - Speaker 0 criticizes the record of neocons on foreign policy (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, the Arab Spring) and argues that the entire Middle East bears their failures. He emphasizes a potential regime-change drive and questions what would come after removing the Ayatollah, including possible US troop deployments and financial support for a new regime. - He highlights the size of Iran (about 92,000,000 people, two and a half times the size of Texas) and warns that regime change could trigger a bloody civil war and a large refugee crisis, possibly drawing tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths and destabilizing Europe. - Speaker 1 presents a more vocal stance: he would like to see the regime fall and leaves to the president the timing and method, insisting that if the nuclear program isn’t eliminated now, “we’ll all regret it” and urging to “be all in” to help Israel finish the job. - In cuts 3:43, Speaker 1 argues that removing the Ayatollah’s regime would be beneficial because staying in power would continue to threaten Israel, foment terrorism, and pursue a bomb; he characterizes the regime as aiming to destroy Jews and Sunni Islam, calling them “fanatical religious Nazis.” - Speaker 0 responds that such a forceful call for regime change is immature, shallow, and reckless, warning that certainty about outcomes in foreign interventions is impossible. He asserts that the first rule of foreign policy is humility, noting that prior interventions led to prolonged conflict and mass displacement. He cautions against beating the drums for regime change in another Middle Eastern country, especially the largest, and reiterates that the issue is not simply removing the nuclear program but opposing Western-led regime change. - The discussion frames a tension between supporting efforts to deny Iran a nuclear weapon and resisting Western-led regime change, with a strong emphasis on potential humanitarian and geopolitical consequences. The speakers reference public opinion (citing 86% of Americans not wanting Iran to have a bomb) and critique interventions as historically destabilizing.

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Speaker 0 argues that most Americans oppose the war, citing polling and the president’s failure to make a case for it. The speaker asserts that people don’t feel threatened by Iran and don’t fear an Iranian ballistic missile landing in the United States. The speaker lists a set of American concerns: 72% can’t afford health insurance, 58% can’t afford car insurance, 67% live paycheck to paycheck, 31% can’t afford back taxes, and 50% carry massive credit card debt. They state they campaigned with the president and were among the few Republicans supporting Donald Trump when others opposed him in a primary, emphasizing a “America first” stance focused on American problems rather than foreign countries or foreign peoples. The speaker expresses concern for the Iranian people and hopes for a government that treats women fairly, but asserts that “we have seen over 100 little girls killed at a school from a bomb,” and claims that “America and Israel attacked Iran,” implying this is not good for Iranian women. They criticize the president’s claim that the Iranian people will topple their regime, saying the Iranian people won’t topple their regime while being bombed by the United States and Israel in an unprovoked attack, which the speaker claims is true. They reference Pete Hegseth’s comment that the U.S. did not start the war, but the speaker counters that America and Israel definitely started it and states, “you can’t lie that away to the American people.” The speaker declares being irate and furious about the situation, noting the national debt approaching $40 trillion and questioning the war’s cost. They argue that American troops have been killed and murdered for foreign countries, and that four Americans have died for Israel and the Iranian people, not for Americans. The speaker laments the loss of American military members and acknowledges the families who may be grieving. They mention Trump’s past statements that he doesn’t think he will go to heaven, and question what that implies about his decision-making, given that the president has said he may place troops on the ground and that what began as “a few day war” could extend to four weeks or more. The speaker recalls prior commitments by JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard to end foreign wars and regime change, but notes that “we’re a year in” and yet “we’re in another fucking war” with Americans killed. The speech ends with a call for America to “rip the Band Aid off” and to have a serious conversation about who is making these decisions and for whom.

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The war in Syria originated not from Bashar Al Assad, but from a decision in Washington in 02/2011 to overthrow Assad, a desire originating from Jerusalem and the Israeli government for over 25 years, with Netanyahu aiming to reshape the Middle East in Israel's image by overthrowing opposing governments. This aligned with the CIA and the U.S. government, leading to Operation Timber Sycamore, a program where the U.S. and regional countries trained rebels, including jihadists, to overthrow the Syrian regime. This resulted in chaos and 600,000 deaths. The CIA's goal in 02/2011 was for a jihad group to take power in Syria after being armed by the U.S. Peace in the region requires real diplomacy, not CIA operations, and an end to Israel's militarization of the Middle East. The Syrian war is one of six wars Israel has promoted, including in Lebanon, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, and Sudan. In 02/2001, Wesley Clark was shown a Pentagon paper outlining a plan for seven wars in five years. The only war that hasn't occurred is a U.S. war with Iran.

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After 9/11, I visited the Pentagon and spoke with a general who informed me that the decision had been made to go to war with Iraq, despite no evidence linking Saddam to Al Qaeda. The rationale seemed to be a lack of options in dealing with terrorism, leading to a military approach. A few weeks later, while we were bombing Afghanistan, the same general revealed a memo outlining plans to target seven countries over five years, starting with Iraq and including Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and ending with Iran. He mentioned the memo was classified and advised against viewing it.

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Our military leaders are great, but our involvement in the Middle East has given our military a bad reputation. Going into the Middle East was a horrible decision, the worst in our country's history. It has turned out to be a disaster, destroying the region and costing us billions of dollars and millions of lives. The situation is much worse now than it was 20 years ago. We should have just done a retribution strike for the World Trade Center and not gotten stuck in there like quicksand. Currently, there are reports of as many as 40,000 Americans affected.

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Shortly after 9/11, I visited the Pentagon and spoke with a general who informed me that a decision had been made to go to war with Iraq, despite no evidence linking Saddam to Al Qaeda. The rationale seemed to be a lack of options in dealing with terrorism, leading to a military approach. A few weeks later, while we were bombing Afghanistan, I asked if the plan to invade Iraq was still on. The general revealed that he had received a memo outlining a strategy to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and followed by Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and ending with Iran.

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"Of the war in Iraq was a big fat mistake. They lied. Okay. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none." "Bush got us into this horrible war with lies by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction, by saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true." "I lost a lot of friends that were killed in that building. The worst attack ever in this country, it was during his presidency." "We spent $2,000,000,000,000, thousands of lives, wounded warriors all over the place we're in."

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"This discussion will teach you everything you need to know about US foreign policy over the last seven decades and how we got to where we are today, how we got to a war in Ukraine, an ongoing war in Gaza, The US bombing Iran, a war in Lebanon, and in the last two decades, a war in Iraq, a war in Afghanistan, and just death and destruction across The Middle East." "They were allied with The US against Iran. That includes Al Qaeda." "The defense planning guidance for 1994" ended up being known as the Wolfowitz doctrine: "America will not allow for any power or combination of regional powers anywhere in the world to challenge our military dominance over the planet, and we'll go to war with them first to prevent that from happening." "The purpose of NATO is to keep America in, Germany down, and the Soviets out." Rand Corporation’s "Extending Russia" study warned about "calibration of the amount of weapons that we're pouring in," and CIA officers said "the calibration is off." "Minsk one and Minsk two"; "the Americans in Kyiv refused to implement the thing." "Al Qaeda, nine eleven, the probably America's worst enemy now in our generation, was allied with The US." "Bases in Saudi from which to bomb and blockade Iraq." "Saddam Hussein… ally to The US against Iran." "Iran, even after the revolution, was not an ally of Israel, but Israel was supplying weapons to Iran after the revolution, and that was through The US."

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I opposed the Iraq war, calling it based on lies. I warned about no WMDs or ties to Al Qaeda. I criticized the invasion's consequences, which proved true. I accused the senator of supporting crimes in Iraq, like missing funds and oil theft. I highlighted corruption involving American corporations and military commanders. I pointed out the real scandal of sanctions busting by US companies with government involvement.

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We spent $8 trillion on the war in Iraq and got nothing in return. We killed more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein, created ISIS, and caused millions of refugees. Then we spent $16 trillion on the pandemic with no results. Now we're doing bank bailouts regularly. The government cut Medicare for 15 million Americans while sending extra money to Ukraine. A friend had his food stamps cut by 90%, leaving him with only $25 a month. 30 million Americans are starving, which is unacceptable. We're failing to take care of those who played by the rules and promised to be taken care of in old age.

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The speaker argues that the war in Iraq resulted in an enormous, unrecoverable cost: “we spent $2,000,000,000,000, thousands of lives,” and that the outcome left the United States with nothing to show for it. The speaker contends that Iran is now taking over Iraq, describing it as having “the second largest oil reserves in the world,” and asserts that this outcome proves the involvement in Iraq was a mistake. The speaker states that George Bush made a mistake and that the United States “should have never been in Iraq,” claiming that the intervention destabilized the Middle East. Regarding accountability, the speaker questions whether Bush should be impeached and suggests a preference for letting the other party decide how to label the issue, saying, “So you still think he should be impeached? I think it's my turn, ain't it? You do whatever you want.” The speaker emphasizes a belief that those responsible “lied,” specifically about weapons of mass destruction, asserting, “They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction. Alright.” In sum, the speaker presents three core assertions: (1) the Iraq War was extraordinarily costly in financial terms and human lives, and produced no tangible gain; (2) the war destabilized the Middle East and empowered Iran to increase influence in Iraq, which the speaker frames as a mistaken outcome; and (3) the leaders claimed WMDs existed when they did not, asserting that there were no weapons of mass destruction and that those claims were knowingly false. The dialogue also touches on impeachment as a potential consequence for the leadership involved, framed through the speaker’s yes-or-no stance and interjections about accountability.

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The speaker states the purpose of the military is to start wars and change governments, not deter conflict, and that the US will invade countries. An officer from the joint staff informed him the US was going to attack Iraq, but didn't know why, and that Saddam wasn't tied to 9/11. Later, the same officer showed the speaker a memo from the Secretary of Defense's office stating the US would attack and destroy the governments of seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. The speaker claims the country was taken over by people like Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Rumsfeld from the Project for a New American Century, who wanted to destabilize the Middle East and make it under US control. Their document, written before 9/11, acknowledged transformation would be a long process.

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10 days after 9/11, a general informed me that we were going to war with Iraq. When I asked why, he didn't have a clear answer but mentioned that our military was capable of taking down governments. Weeks later, while we were bombing Afghanistan, I asked if we were still going to war with Iraq. To my surprise, he showed me a memo from the secretary of defense's office outlining a plan to take out 7 countries in 5 years. The countries listed were Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

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Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex | Lex Fridman Podcast #478
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From Vietnam to the post‑9/11 wars, Scott Horton argues that the arc of US military intervention reveals not triumphant freedom, but a costly machine steered by the military‑industrial complex and a mutating policy myth. He cites the Cost of War Project: the post‑9/11 wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen produced roughly 900,000 to 940,000 direct deaths and 3.6 to 3.8 million indirect deaths, with about $8 trillion spent. He notes food insecurity in Afghanistan rising from 62% to 92%, child malnutrition from 9% to 50%, and poverty from 80% to 97%. He mentions 37 million displaced and veterans’ suffering, and suggests only prosthetics as a tangible gain. His pattern shows elites justify perpetual intervention to sustain power while civilians pay the price. Horton threads Vietnam, Nixon’s Iran arms deals, the CIA’s regime‑change playbook, and Carter’s hostage crisis into a lineage of incentives. Ellsberg’s Pentagon Papers illustrate how leaders leak and manipulate truth, while think tanks, media, and contractors shape war’s arithmetic. He invokes public choice to argue national interest often equals what those in power decide. That pattern repeats in the 1990s and 2000s as he charts the neoconservative shift: A Clean Break and the Israel lobby, Chalabi's exile palace diplomacy, and the push for 'benevolent global hegemony.' Horton ties the break‑out documents to later dreams of exporting democracy from Iraq to Iran, while denouncing the incubator hoax and the persistence of WMD pretexts. He leans on Treacherous Alliance and The Israel Lobby to show how Israel’s strategic calculations infected US policy, helping to explain how regime change in Iraq, support for Iran’s adversaries, and the politics of the Palestinian question braided together to widen the conflict. Across these threads, he urges readers to interrogate sources and motives behind the headlines. Across his historical survey, Horton moves to the 'new cold war' with Russia and the Ukraine crisis. He argues NATO expansion, open‑door rhetoric, and the Minsk framework framed the conflict, while Kissinger and Brzezinski predicted great‑power competition. He contends diplomacy—not bravado—offers the best path to minimize blowback, warning that sanctions and rushed interventions feed anti‑Americanism and empower anti‑West actors. He closes by urging a libertarian posture: restraint, humility, and a focus on nonintervention while pointing readers to antiwar.com and the Libertarian Institute as accountability engines for foreign policy debates, alongside a curated map of fault‑lines in modern policy.

This Past Weekend

Dave Smith | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #555
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Theo Von opens with notes about a second Nashville show on May 3, 4:00 p.m. at Bridgestone Arena, thanking fans and listing tickets for East Lansing, Victoria, College Station, Gig ’Em Belt, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Winnipeg, and Calgary, with tickets at theo.com. The guest is comedian, podcaster, and social commentator Dave Smith, known for Part of the Problem and Legion of Skanks. They discuss a wide range of topics, including the Israel and Palestine conflict; the conversation was recorded Monday, January 13, which is why there was no ceasefire discussion. The dialogue covers politics, media, censorship, war, and philosophy through a libertarian lens. Smith describes libertarianism as the belief in self ownership, non aggression, and private property, with government whose sole role is to protect liberty. He explains that liberty includes free speech, gun rights, and property rights, and that any government activity beyond protection is tyrannical because it takes from someone to give to someone else. They explore how this view translates into views on markets, peace, and intervention. A major portion of the talk turns to TikTok, its potential ban, and why platforms matter for information flow. They discuss TikTok as a source of news for young people, the shift away from traditional outlets, and the fear that a ban would suppress alternative viewpoints, especially material critical of Israeli actions in Gaza. They reference the Anti-Defamation League and its stance on Israel, and mention Osama bin Laden’s open letter to America and the grievances cited there, including presence of US military bases in Muslim lands, US support for Israel, and exploitation of regional resources. Smith notes the claim that Bin Laden listed the occupation of sacred lands and economic grievances as motivators, while also describing the complexity of the historical context and the reaction from various audiences to reading his words. The episode delves into censorship and power, including Zuckerberg’s Rogan interview and the claim that the FBI advised Facebook about a looming Russian information dump during the 2020 election. They contrast Facebook’s approach with Twitter’s, and critique the narrative of censorship as a new phenomenon, arguing that government pressure to shape speech has long existed, yet corporate and platform power now amplifies it. They discuss the Hunter Biden laptop episode, the role of third party fact checking, and the difference between a blanket ban and a signal reduction rather than a full removal. Beyond foreign policy, the conversation touches U.S. domestic policy and history. They discuss neoconservatives’ influence, Project for a New American Century, and the 1996 “A Clean Break” memo advocating regime change in the Middle East to advance Israel’s strategic aims. They recount Wesley Clark’s testimony about the plan to take out seven countries in five years, beginning with Iraq, and reflect on how the events unfolded after 9/11. They examine the moral costs of war, veterans’ experiences, and the sense that Americans were sold a false narrative about the purposes of intervention. On economics, they critique the Federal Reserve, the gold standard, and Bretton Woods, describing how fiat money and monetary policy enable endless borrowing and inflation. They explain how the Fed’s structure concentrates profits in banks and the government can pursue expansive policy by printing money, with consequences for ordinary people. They discuss healthcare markets, pricing transparency, and libertarian proposals to reduce regulatory friction and increase real competition. The chat also covers culture and media, the rise of podcasts, the evolution of standup, and Dave’s upcoming schedule, including Skankfest in New Orleans, a stop in Bozeman, Montana, and other dates at comicdavesmith.com. They close with reflections on truth, accountability, and the value of speaking honestly while recognizing uncertainty, emphasizing the importance of listening to diverse perspectives and maintaining a commitment to liberty. If you want more, follow Dave Smith at comicdavesmith.com for tour dates and updates, and catch his continued work on Part of the Problem and other projects. The conversation demonstrates a willingness to grapple with difficult issues in a forum that prizes openness and the exploration of ideas.
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