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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 weave a dual-themed argument that identifies Rome with Edom and portrays a stark, apocalyptic conflict between Israel and the nations, particularly Christianity. They claim that the Romans identified with Edom are the evil kingdom in the Talmud and that Edom’s deviousness must end. They insist that “the Romans who are identified with Edom… whenever we see evil kingdom in the Talmud is always Rome,” and they repeatedly connect Edom to Amalek as “the grandson of Asav of Edom.” They state that Edom, Rome, and Amalek are essentially the same core force and that this force will be destroyed, with its memory removed from existence at the end of time. They argue that Israel holds a unique, exclusive position: “everything in creation from beginning to end is all about Israel. And it’s all for Israel. We have the Torah which was given to us from heaven and it will be in our hands for eternity.” They declare that “that’s only us” and that “the nations” are not in this plan. God, they assert, “put his name in us” and “revealed himself to the world through us,” calling Israel God’s firstborn son. They claim Christianity and Israel can never coexist, because they are opposites: “There can never be two on top. Only one.” They illustrate this with hand motions, describing one as up and one as down, and compare Catholic rhetoric as a mirror opposite to their own. Speaker 1 adds that the end-time plan involves the destruction of Edom and the false messiah, followed by the appearance of the true messiah, with Messiah ben David gathering the exiles and a third temple being built only after Edom’s fall and the false messiah’s exposure. They connect the end of Edom to the rise of Israel and to Jerusalem being built “properly.” They identify Satan as the archangel for Edom and describe Israel as rising “when Edom and the false messiah” are defeated. There is extensive apocalyptic projection: the world will turn against Israel via the Gog and Magog framework; all 70 nations will oppose Israel; Amalek and Ishmael are fused into broader conflicts between Ishmael, Edom, Christians, and Muslims. They describe Edom’s destruction as the destruction of Western civilization—Europe and the United States—as precursors to a messianic age. They claim that “the whole world’s destruction” will occur, with wars invoked by the “two-part plan” to remove idols and to force a convergence of Jewish law with end-time prophecy. Speaker 3 contributes historical-war context, noting that wars have historically led to the collapse of nations, and that World War II is cited in their framework as part of a longer arc toward a third world war that begins with Halta Deguila (redemption) and becomes the redemption when the Edomites are destroyed. They predict that major future wars will pit Ishmael against Edom and Muslims against Christians, and they recount how the Midrash portrays events culminating in Edom’s destruction before Mashiach’s arrival. Overall, the dialogue centers on a binary cosmic struggle: Israel’s divine exclusivity versus Edom’s (Rome’s) doom, with the end-times script predicting universal opposition to Israel, the downfall of Western powers, and the eventual assembling of a messianic order after the fall of the false messiah.

Command to wipe out from among all the descendants of Esauv, descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old. And that is why Amalek is so terrible, and it has to be totally uprooted. Therefore, Therefore, God tells us we should erase their memory, and we should eradicate them from the face of the earth. Who is Amalek? Amalek comes from Asav. Asav was a brother to Jacob. Esav became Edoine, which is a nation. Edoine became Rome. Instead of it being Rome, it became Christianity. Christianity, of course, ultimately became Western civilization. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. The audacity, the chutzpah to destroy Amalek and to cut off the offsprings of the nation of Amalek. I have the high privilege and distinct honor of presenting to you the prime minister of Israel, his excellency Benjamin Netanyahu.

Antisemitism is “you know, it’s always kind of lurking underneath, and you need sometimes sometimes events over the years, you know, pull it out.” The speaker recalls Captain Dreyfus being accused of treason in France and Theodor Herzl watching, and suddenly, “kill Dreyfus, kill all the Jews.” The question is, where did “kill all the Jews” come from? The response is that, from one guy, antisemitism can surge. The speaker notes that today we have our Dreyfus again. We have the war. We have Jeffrey Epstein, who, the speaker says, “hated Israel,” and “had nothing there was nothing about him that was Jewish. Didn’t observe Judaism, didn’t practice Judaism.” The speaker adds as a side thought: “If you don’t mind me jumping in on this,” and then discusses a common claim: people say you can be anti-Zionist without being anti-Semitic, arguing that Judaism is just a religion, not a nationality, so they are not against the religion but against the nation, and it “shouldn’t be considered a nation.” The speaker then contends that Epstein is not a Jew under that standard because there is nothing about him that identifies with Israel. The only related claim is that “one of his emails says, I hate Israel. Right? There’s nothing about him that is religious at all.” However, when it comes to antisemitism, the speaker asserts, “he’s a Jew.” That is presented as the final point on Epstein’s case. The speaker mentions Epstein “tried to work with a former prime minister,” calling that his only connection. The former prime minister referred to is David Barak, described as not in politics for many, many years and having no influence in Israel, and “is the, kind of, the main political antagonist of Netanyahu.” The transcript notes that Epstein’s only connection was with David Barak, and that Barak is viewed as Netanyahu’s main political antagonist, despite Barak’s long absence from active politics. The passage ends with that acknowledgment of Epstein’s connection being limited to Barak.

Edom is equated with Christendom, Western civilization, and specifically the United States, representing the modern-day embodiment of Esau. Edom is considered the implacable enemy of the Jewish people, a constantly morphing entity that began as Rome and transformed into the Christian Empire. This "kingdom" is destined for a crushing defeat and utter destruction, as prophesied in Jewish texts. The symbol of Edom is the fish, an early Christian symbol. Muslims will incite wars against Edom/Christians. The fall of America is seen as a necessary precursor to the messianic age. The "children of Esav" are described as still hating the Jewish people. God will crush Edom and take revenge on the nations that have opposed the Jewish people.

In America today, we have white supremacy. In the Torah, we had Amalek. Amalek is seen as the eternal enemy of our people whose members found strength by making us suffer. Therefore, when the Lord your God grants you safety from all your enemies around you, in the land that the Lord your God is giving to you as a hereditary portion, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget. Our rabbinic sages parse these sentences and derive two distinct meanings. Blotting out the memory of Amalek is a military command, literally to destroy Amalek. Now facing today's Amalek, we are reminded that the Torah calls us not just to escape, but to extirpate Amalek. We are commanded to do real and literal battle against it. That means coming off the bench in the fight against white supremacy. Means putting our reputations and our money and our physical bodies on the line. But also so that we are ready to answer people with radically destructive and incoherent versions of history so that we can counter white supremacists, so that we can counter Amalek and blot them out by retaining on our lips and in our records their history. By being bearers of history, we can help guide the future. Blotting out Amalek need not merely be about military conquest. Equally important is ideological victory, and nothing could more readily counter white supremacy than a Jewish community proudly helping our Muslim neighbors. There is nothing that undermines a white supremacist worldview more than diverse communities getting along and building together towards the future.

Speaker 0: Aesop, who became Edom, who became the Roman Empire, which metamorphosed into the Christian Empire, which became Christian civilization, which is now represented by The United States Of America, will suffer a crushing, humiliating defeat. Speaker 1: So one of the things that has to happen is America has to fall. I mean, because the American led world the world order, that's the American led order is gonna end. It can that's not the same as the very end that we read in the Bible. So somehow, we're gonna see a collapse. Speaker 2: The spiritual heirs of the Roman Empire is the Western world, United States Of America, so The USA will last until Mashiach comes. Speaker 3: The West is Rome. According to the simple meaning, you know, Europe and America are really one entity. Speaker 1: And the thing is, listen, we are already deteriorating economically, our position in the world. Our enemies are rising. China is rising. Others are rising. Speaker 4: I mean, America is strong, but not when they're going against three, four armies. Speaker 3: All the nation all the mountains are gonna be full of blood of of of the corpses of Edom because of the vengeance that Hashem is gonna take from them. Speaker 4: Will rise and will destroy completely the city of Edom and will completely uproot them. Speaker 3: But we know one thing. Right? That when it comes to the classic Rome, you know, which is Europe, they're finished. Speaker 4: And you don't have to be a prophet or a great analysis for that. You have to open the view the the the the TV or the Internet and see that exactly what was prophesied then, that the sons of Ishmael are gonna go and cause cause havoc around the world. So France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead. Speaker 0: Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. Speaker 1: If America doesn't turn back, which is not looking like that now, we are gonna see a collapse of the entire world war. Speaker 5: Once we will leave this place, Hashem will bury America. That's what's gonna happen. Not because I'm some kind of a prophet. I'm not giving you any prophecies here. I'm just describing to you a divine formula. Speaker 0: But regarding Esau, Adam, we stress their complete destruction and that God will throw them into the endless pit of darkness and oblivion.

Speaker 0 says: "Hindus don't have that. Jews don't have that. Oh, they do. So they're talking about We already control the world. We don't have to have a plan." They add, "You know that's gonna get clipped, Yael."

Speaker 0: 5,000,000 Jews in Israel and 5,000,000 Jews in America cannot defeat 1,300,000,000 Muslims. But if the Christians are with us, maybe we have a fighting chance. It’s very unpalatable for Jews to love the Christians or to understand even if we don’t love the Christians that we should let the Christians help us. We should let the Christians help us. Speaker 1: What’s going on in the world today? There’s a very big divide. The 70 nations are really 35 and 35, and 35 are controlled by Edom, the Western world (what many consider America), and 35 are controlled by Ishmael, the Arab Muslim world. That world history is coming down to the two powers, the Western world against Ishmael. The question is, who stands last in that great war, which is also called Goy Gomagog. Right now, we are undergoing two simultaneous Golusim, Edom and Yeshma’am. We know that the two nations that will last till Mashiach comes is Rome and Yeshma’am. These are the only two nations that will exist until Mashiach comes. And, we wanna know who’s gonna be the last man standing, Asaph or Ishmael? By the way, my message to both of them is we wish both of them to wipe each other out. And, we all feel very comfortable here in the Western world. Yeah. You know, America will protect us and America will conquer Yeshmaul and then Mashiach will come. But, whatever it is, we wish both sides wiping out the other party. Speaker 2: There’s a battle between Edom and Ishmael. And until the end of days, these two forces will counterbalance. But what’s the greatest danger in the world? The greatest danger is if Eisov and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, they would destroy the world. You can never mix and together. When and come together, they destroy the world. Esau and Ishmael two times in history, and those were the two most dangerous moments in the collective history of a Jewish program. When Edom and Ishmael come together, Speaker 3: it brings destruction to the world. Speaker 1: If you wanna know, what would the world look like if the Western world and Ishmael ever got together? Auschwitz.

The speaker discusses the concept of Amalek, representing doubt and evil. They emphasize the need to eradicate Amalek and appoint a king when entering the land of Israel. Another speaker connects Amalek to Western civilization, particularly the United States and Europe. They mention that destroying Amalek is necessary for the completion of God's throne. The audacity to destroy Amalek is highlighted, and the idea of spitting as a symbolic act when leaving Europe is mentioned.

There is a commandment to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, who represent doubt and evil. God instructs us to erase their memory and eradicate them. Asav, the brother of Jacob, is the ancestor of Amalek. Asav is seen as Western civilization, with Christianity being its modern form. Destroying Amalek is necessary to complete the throne of God. Any nation with this religion can be considered a sub. The audacity to destroy Amalek and its offspring is emphasized.

A wide-ranging discussion unfolds, centered on extreme nationalist and apocalyptic themes tied to Jewish identity, anti-Jewish conspiracies, and biblical warfare prescriptions. The speakers present a cascade of provocative assertions, weaving religious injunctions, historical grievances, political critiques, and futuristic fears into a persistent narrative about “Amalek,” Esau/Edom, and the alleged centrality of Jews in world affairs. Key points and claims as presented: - A recurring claim asserts Jewish influence and dominance, described as “beyond any type of rational understanding,” with Jews portrayed as having incalculable global impact despite being a “minute percentage” of the world. - Amalek is treated as a central, timeless evil representing doubt and resistance to Jewish aims. It is described as a nation descended from Esau, whose eradication is commanded. Several speakers insist that “the memory of Amalek” must be wiped out and that God’s throne remains incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. - The destruction of Amalek is tied to the conquest of the land of Israel, with steps that include appointing a king and “destroy Amalek.” Amalek is equated with Esau/Edom, and by extension, with Europe and the United States or Western civilization in some strands, depending on the speaker. - There are explicit exhortations to eliminate Amalek, including references to slaughtering men, women, and children, and to the obliteration of their memory; some speakers articulate this as a mitzvah and a divine obligation. - Several comments link Christianity and Western civilization to Amalek, arguing that Christianity and Israel cannot coexist and that Western institutions are aligned with Amalek’s agenda. - The discourse makes historical and conspiratorial associations (e.g., with Nazism and global control of finance) to justify fears about Jewish influence and to frame contemporary political issues (e.g., U.S. and European actions) as part of an ongoing struggle against Amalek. - There are denunciations of modern political bodies (e.g., the ICC) as tools of antisemitism and as perversions of justice aimed at Israel, juxtaposed with calls for regime change in Iran and Iraq and for broader American and Israeli strategic actions in the Middle East. - The conversation touches on abortion and human life, with a participant presenting a personal tattoo stating “not yet a human,” linking this to broader themes of control over life and autonomy, and tying it into religious and ethical debates. - Reflections on Europe’s transformation toward multiculturalism are framed as prophetic or existential challenges for Jewish communities, with warnings about antisemitism and the defensible necessity of Jewish advocacy. - A strain of dialogue asserts a long Jewish history of civil rights leadership, framing Jews as prominent in social justice movements, LGBTQ+ rights, and interfaith and minority protections, though this is interwoven with other more extreme claims in the broader discussion. - The latter segments include a purported personal testimony about experiences with trans rights and education, referencing Torah, gender diversity, and the historical presence of gender variation in Jewish texts, positioning this within a broader defense of inclusion while still under the umbrella of the surrounding controversial rhetoric. - A final reinforcement arrives with a militarized, apocalyptic motif: the Jew as defender against existential “orcs,” and a claim that Jewish presence in Israel serves as a bulwark against impending catastrophe, coupled with warnings to allies who betray that stance. Overall, the transcript compiles a mosaic of religious-nationalist condemnations, apocalyptic warfare imperatives, and conspiratorial framings, centering on Amalek as an eternal enemy and depicting a supposed divine mandate to erase this threat across generations and geographies.

There's a mitzvah to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old, because Amalek represents doubt. God tells us to erase their memory and eradicate them. When a Jew enters Israel, the first thing to do is appoint a king, and the second is to destroy Amalek. Amalek comes from Asav, Jacob's brother. Asav became Edom, which became Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Asav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Asav. We must destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

God commands Jews entering Israel to appoint a king and destroy Amalek. Amalek originates from Esav, Jacob's brother. Esav, in modern terms, is America. Esav became Edoine, then Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Esav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe, the new Rome. The throne of God is incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. Any nation with that religion can be considered Eisav. The most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do when leaving Europe is to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

According to the transcript, there is a mitzvah to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old, because Amalek represents the concept of doubt. God tells us to erase their memory and eradicate them from the face of the earth. The most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do when leaving Europe is to spit into the land of Israel. The first thing to do is appoint a king, then destroy Amalek, who comes from Asav, brother to Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edouin, then Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Asav. There is audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off the offspring of the nation of Amalek.

Before the arrival of Moshiach, there will be an assembly of nations against the Jews, which represents the gathering of evil sparks scattered worldwide. Germany is identified as the nation that will be recognizable by its character and behavior. Italy, as the seed of the Roman Empire, was Germany's closest ally. Despite their differences, Italy and Germany formed a friendship. The end of Amalek, the embodiment of evil, will result in the destruction of all evil forces. This is expected to happen in our generation. The Jewish people were commanded to fulfill three mitzvahs upon entering the land of Israel: choosing a king, eradicating Amalek, and building the beta Midash.

Amalek represents doubt and hostility towards Jews, and it is a mitzvah to eradicate their memory completely. This includes men, women, and children, as Amalek embodies traits that threaten Jewish existence. The Torah commands the destruction of Amalek upon entering Israel, emphasizing the need for a king and the elimination of this enemy. Amalek is linked to historical adversaries, including the Nazis, and is seen as a source of evil. The ongoing struggle against Amalek is a divine mandate, reflecting a broader spiritual battle. The call to remember Amalek's actions serves as a reminder of the obligation to confront and eliminate such threats to Jewish survival.

The speaker claims that Jews are engaged in a mission to annihilate Christianity, inheriting a hatred for Christ from Herod, as expressed in the Talmud. The decline of Christian nations is proportional to Jewish influence. The term "antisemitism" is a Jewish tactic to conceal their role as aggressors, shifting blame onto others. Antagonism towards Jews is found globally, suggesting the cause lies within them. Antisemitism is a natural, self-preservation instinct, not an active prejudice. Jews deserve persecution due to obnoxious traits. The Jewish spirit is revolutionary, concealing their identity and attributes to maintain power. The anti-Semitic charge defends their offensive nature. Jews use money, organizations, and propaganda to build up antisemitism charges. Even conservatives avoid the "Jewish connection." Jesus Christ would be labeled an antisemite today. Concealing Jewish traits conceals the cause of world problems. The conflict stems from diametrically opposed value systems. Jews, as descendants of Esau Edom, hate God's people. Jacob's blessing gave dominion to the white European race, conditional on abiding by God's law. Esau was prophesied to break Jacob's yoke, fulfilled by Jewish control over the white race through socialism, Judaism, and Talmudic ethics. Jewish control of money, banking, and usury leads to economic bondage. The Bank of England and the Federal Reserve System are examples of Jewish financial dominion. Democracy, socialism, and communism are Jewish contrivances. The United Nations is a Jewish plan for world government. Esau's revenge involves war against Jacob, inciting conflicts, and promoting retaliation. Jews foment wars due to their hatred of white people. Abortion and interracial marriage are acts of revenge to destroy the white race. The speaker concludes that Esau Edom is destined for destruction, with Jacob as God's tool of vengeance.

Amalek, a descendant of Asaph, must be totally uprooted and eradicated from the earth. Amalek comes from Asav, the brother of Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edoine, then Rome, and eventually Christianity, which transformed into Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization, including Europe and the United States. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Esau, and we have the audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

"I almost don't know these Jews." "Yeah. I saw what happened in Palestine." "In nineteen o five, the Jews went to Russia to try to kill the czar." "When the Russians found out what happened, they stopped them and put them out." "The Germans let them in in nineteen o five in mass numbers fleeing Russia." "They weren't fleeing persecution. They were fearing justice." "They tried to kill the czar." "The Germans let them get into banking." "Everything is made in Germany now." "The Jews took over." "Germans won World War one." "It's the Balfour Declaration." "America stepping into World War one made zero sense." "We want them at war with each other." "They told them, just give us Palestine as our homeland, and we get it." "Yeah. And it wasn't theirs to give."

The speaker asserts the following: The Talmud teaches them to enslave the Gentile financially through high interest. The Talmud teaches that they are to kill Christians. They're to depopulate Christians and Gentiles. The Gentile has no soul. He's an animal. Only the Jew, you know, has a soul and a relationship with God. And that impair in their paradise when Messiah comes, that each Jew is going to have 2,800 Christian and Gentile slaves at their beckon. So you can see how they like the dispensational pre millennial heresy because they become their useful idiots politically to to con constantly praise Israel as God's people.

Speaker 0 explains that Netanyahu evokes Jewish history in his religious text and sentiment to rally support for attacks, and that Nurode explains this increases right-wing sentiment in Israel. Speaker 1 notes that when Netanyahu announced the offensive against Iran, he did not just discuss threats but invoked Jewish history, drawing parallels with Jews rising up against Persian enslavement more than two thousand years ago. Speaker 2 adds: “My brothers and sisters, in two days, we celebrate the holiday of Purim. Two thousand five hundred years ago in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of destroying our people.” Speaker 1 continues: “A day later, Netanyahu invoked scripture describing the government in Tehran as Amalek, the ultimate enemy in the Old Testament, the enemy whose memory and existence must be erased.” Speaker 2: “We read in this week's Torah portions. Remember what Amalek did to you. We remember and we act.” Speaker 1 remarks that this is not the first time Netanyahu has used the Amalek reference to justify violence against an adversary. In fact, his reference to Palestinians as Amalek was cited during hearings in the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Speaker 0 states that inciting religious fervor is not unique to Netanyahu; it’s a popular tactic among right-wing and populist leaders to rally support, and it often pays off. She cites opinion polls to illustrate how widespread these sentiments are: a Hebrew University poll on Israel’s war on Gaza found 75% of Jewish Israelis believe there are no innocence in Gaza; a survey by the Institute for National Security released last month shows 78% of Israelis consider Iran a serious threat. Speaker 1 adds that mixing scripture with mainstream politics is playing with fire and has led to talk of a greater Israel spanning from the Euphrates to the Nile River and erasing existing Arab countries in the process, an ambition referenced not only by Netanyahu but also by the head of the opposition in Israel. Speaker 0 concludes with the attribution: Jahan Bin.

Erase the memory of Amalek, as commanded. When entering the land of Israel, the first step is to appoint a king, followed by the destruction of Amalek. Amalek descends from Esau, who represents modern-day Western civilization, particularly America and Europe. The throne of God remains incomplete until Amalek is destroyed. Any nation embodying that ideology can be seen as Amalek. The imperative is to eradicate Amalek and its descendants. The most fitting action for the last Jew leaving Europe is to fulfill this command.

Jewish people have allegedly aimed to control the world for thousands of years, according to the speaker. They believe this is supported by a book of God. Another speaker suggests that in Jewish understanding, the term "Edom" refers to Christianity. The first speaker then discusses the fate of non-Jews when the Messiah comes, stating that they will cease to exist as individuals and as a nation. This is referred to as cultural genocide by some.

Speaker 0 explains the distinction between Edom and Amalek. He says Amalek is Germany, and Edom is the grandfather of Amalek. He asks, who is Edom? He states Edom includes most of Europe and includes the United States of America. He describes the Roman Empire as the one that “never was never destroyed,” and asserts that Italy is the seat of the Roman Empire of Edom. Even though Edom is scattered, many other nations today that speak Latin languages, and even America, are part of Edom. He concludes that Edom is everywhere, and the United States of America is also part of Edom. Speaker 1 references Hashem, saying, “This is what Hashem said.” He notes we do not know who Amalek is, and we assume it is the Germans after what they did in the Holocaust, not only to the Jews, but to the whole world. He adds that it is not only the Germans, but most of the European countries, and that is where Amalek is.

Negative commandment 59 instructs us to eradicate the descendants of Amalek, representing doubt and negativity. Amalek must be completely uprooted, as God commands us to erase their memory. Upon entering the land of Israel, the first steps are to appoint a king and destroy Amalek, who descends from Esav, Jacob's brother. In modern terms, Esav symbolizes Western civilization, particularly the United States and Europe, which are seen as contemporary manifestations of Amalek. The destruction of Amalek is essential for the fulfillment of God's throne. The audacity to confront Amalek is emphasized, and it is suggested that the last act of a Jew leaving Europe should be to spit, symbolizing rejection of Amalek's influence.