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The speaker discusses the new Department of Government Efficiency, potentially led by Elon Musk. They investigated four instances of wasteful spending that Donald Trump mentioned. $22 billion from Health and Human Services went to housing and transportation for documented migrants. $60 million went to indigenous peoples and Afro-Colombian empowerment in Central America via USAID, with unclear results. $32 million went to the Republic of Moldova for a left-wing propaganda operation, also via USAID. $42 million went to Johns Hopkins University for behavior change in Uganda, funded by USAID. Trump claimed $25 billion in waste. A Rasmussen poll shows that 59% of Americans support auditing Social Security, and 61% believe an audit would reveal widespread fraud. 55% are confident they'll receive promised Social Security benefits. 43% trust Democrats more to handle Social Security, while 44% trust Republicans. The speaker questions whether Democrats will watch spending.

The speaker emphasizes the necessity of a long-term effort to combat waste and fraud, claiming that it will return if vigilance is relaxed, especially if Democrats regain power. The goal is to eliminate funding and grants, making it difficult to restart wasteful and fraudulent activities. The speaker questions whether government employees respect taxpayer money, suggesting a lack of incentive to do so. They assert that incentives determine outcomes and that the payment system is structured such that requests for money are automatically approved.

Government waste is everywhere, in every department, program, and contract. To tackle America's 36 trillion dollar debt, we need to examine all areas. On the oversight subcommittee, we'll investigate government-funded media like NPR, which spreads propaganda. We'll also scrutinize grant programs that fund projects like sex apps in Malaysia and toilets in Africa, programs that don't benefit Americans. I also want to address the Pentagon about their missing billions and failed audits.

This hearing aims to bring transparency to waste, fraud, and abuse within the federal government. Our national debt is $36 trillion, and the compounding interest is growing out of control. Interest payments will exceed our entire military budget. This debt enslaves Americans and drives inflation. It stems from Congress and elected administrations, betraying the American people. Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, arose from this betrayal. Unlike private businesses, the federal government doesn't rely on customer service to earn income; it takes your money regardless. There are no consequences for failure or for the ever-growing national debt. We must tackle this issue together, setting aside political differences to save our nation. We will fight waste alongside President Trump, Elon Musk, and the Doge team, focusing on improper payments in programs like Medicaid and Medicare.

Speaker 0 questions the legitimacy of government spending, implying items like hammers and toilet seats don't actually cost $20,000 and $30,000 respectively. Speaker 1 objects to this line of questioning, stating it is devastating to their case.

As governor, I saw firsthand government waste, but what Elon is finding is stunning. One agency had 13,000 employees but 37,000 software licenses, many unused. With millions of federal employees and credit cards, the opportunities for fraud are immense. Shockingly, there are millions of dead people still in the Social Security system. We need to address the low-hanging fruit. Keep good employees but eliminate unnecessary positions. I was in a meeting where it was revealed there are more government credit cards than employees, and the number of people on Social Security rolls is incredible. Checks go out automatically, and nobody is checking. Contract officers retire, but the money keeps flowing. Even diligent companies struggle to stop improper payments. Agencies like USAID don't track appropriations. Basic changes are needed to ensure taxpayer dollars are spent wisely.

Budget reform isn't an option; it's essential. The American people deserve transparency and accountability to see where their tax dollars go. We must ensure funds are used as intended. We're committed to scrutinizing the federal budget, line by line, eliminating wasteful programs and ensuring cost-effectiveness. It should be easy to cut pointless waste that benefits no one. We aim to establish a new culture of efficiency, not just within our administration, but for every administration that follows. No amount of waste is acceptable when it's your money. We all know government inefficiency exists. Reorganizing and finding efficiency is challenging, and frankly, some of these necessary changes are overdue.

Speaker 0 outlines two priorities: first, go after welfare fraud and rewrite how programs work by requiring states to send biometrics to the federal government proving that the person exists and they're eligible for the services in question, with a focus on fraud “rampant in Minnesota and throughout these blue states through reconciliation.” Second, implement an affordability package to make America more affordable for the hardworking men and women of the country.

The speaker announces anticipated savings of $150 billion in FY 2026 by reducing waste and fraud, citing examples such as people fraudulently receiving unemployment insurance. The speaker suggests waste and fraud are easily found within the government. The speaker believes these savings will result in better services for the American people and ensure tax dollars are spent sensibly. Speaker 0 praises the team's skills in identifying previously unnoticed issues and their computer proficiency, expressing a desire to retain them long-term. Speaker 1 mentions working with Howard on the "Trump gold card operation."

The speaker introduces a campaign to cut government waste, stating that deficit reduction requires difficult choices, including cuts to valued programs. They claim there has been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government during the Biden administration, estimating federal government fraud at half a trillion dollars. The goal is to reduce this figure, saving taxpayer money by stopping spending on things that very few taxpayers would agree makes sense. Examples cited include transgender animal surgeries and the presence of twenty million dead people in the Social Security database.

**Speaker 0:** 212 Democrats voted against no tax on tips, Social Security, and overtime. If the government makes money and spends it responsibly, taxes aren't necessary. The new administration is holding the government accountable, and people are mad about it. **Speaker 1:** There's no tax on tips, overtime, or Social Security in the budget resolution. Taxes are normal. This utopia where nobody pays taxes isn't going to work. Read the budget before lecturing people about it.

Doge aims to cut the deficit by $1 trillion by reducing waste and fraud, targeting a 15% reduction in federal spending. Astonishingly, billions are wasted routinely, like a billion-dollar charge for a simple online survey. The goal is to cut $4 billion daily, with success dependent on President Trump's support. Doge publishes findings on doge.gov for transparency. Congress is kept informed, emphasizing that eliminating waste aligns with the law. A mine in Pennsylvania houses 400 million paper retirement documents, a process from the 1950s, which Doge plans to digitize for faster processing. Government IT costs $100 billion, maintaining systems over 50 years old. Social Security faces fraud, with 40% of direct deposit change calls being fraudulent. Doge aims to ensure legitimate recipients receive more benefits. There are 15-20 million potentially fraudulent Social Security numbers. NIH has 27 centers with 700 IT systems that don't connect, and 27 CIOs. Treasury uses one bank account for all federal payments, lacking proper financial controls, leading to $500 billion in annual fraud. There are 4.6 million government credit cards for 2.3 million employees. Small business loans have been given to those under 11 and over 120 years old. Fraudsters exploit system gaps, like claiming benefits for dead people.

The speaker states that eliminating the deficit requires cutting billions from valued programs, but eliminating pointless waste should be easy, even if the cuts are small. The federal government funds a website for the Fiddling Foresters, a folk music ensemble of forest rangers, and hundreds of similar sites should be consolidated or eliminated. Taxpayers also fund thousands of unused buildings, including a massive, empty warehouse in Brooklyn that the government has owned for a decade. Red tape and Washington politics have prevented the sale of these buildings, but the speaker claims they are cutting through the red tape and plan to get rid of the buildings in the months ahead. The speaker has asked the Vice President to lead a renewed effort to hunt down misspent tax dollars in every agency, calling it the campaign to cut waste.

Government waste is everywhere, in every department, program, and contract. To tackle the $36 trillion national debt, we need to examine all areas. As part of the oversight subcommittee, we will investigate government-funded media like NPR, which spreads Democrat propaganda. We will also scrutinize grant programs that fund projects like sex apps in Malaysia and toilets in Africa, which do not benefit Americans. Furthermore, we need to question the Pentagon about their inability to account for billions of dollars annually and their repeated audit failures.

About a third of Medicare and Medicaid spending, and likely a lot of private sector spending, doesn't go to good healthcare. The challenge is eliminating waste, fraud, and duplication without affecting good care. The speaker references instances of seeing inflated charges on medical bills for minor procedures. Eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicare means cutting some spending. The speaker disagrees with the idea that no money can be cut from Medicare. If a third of Medicare spending doesn't go to patient care, then cuts are necessary. The speaker believes there can be common ground in cutting the "bad stuff" while keeping the "good stuff." The Republican Party has historically stood for eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse, but now there seems to be resistance to this idea.

The speaker emphasizes the necessity of a long-term commitment to preventing waste and fraud, claiming that these issues will resurface if vigilance is relaxed, especially when Democrats regain power. The aim is to eliminate funding and grants to make restarting wasteful practices difficult. The speaker questions whether government employees respect taxpayer money, suggesting a lack of incentive to do so. They assert that incentives determine outcomes and that the current payment system readily provides funds upon request.

Chairman Marcia Taylor Green's subcommittee discovered $2.7 trillion in improper payments to Medicare, Medicaid, and overseas recipients. These payments went to individuals who should not have received them. Doge is identifying fraud, waste, and abuse daily. Elon Musk mentioned Social Security payments being sent to deceased individuals. There are also contracts where, for example, a million dollars was allocated, but only $500,000 was disbursed, raising questions about the missing funds. Doge is actively addressing these issues. President Trump campaigned on this and is delivering on that promise.

The speaker states their goal is to make government more efficient and eliminate waste and fraud, claiming current savings exceed $4 billion a day. They believe they will reach a trillion dollars in savings unless stopped. The savings will come from an audit that will not gather dust on shelves, but will result in real savings and bend the base spending baseline down.

Speaker 0 highlights that the report indicates the federal government wasted millions in the past year on transgender animal experiments and lab testing beagles in China, noting a contrast with funds used for voting identification. He frames the issue as a question of priorities: we don’t want to pay for people to have an ID to vote, but we’ll pay for lab testing beagles in China. Speaker 1 responds by acknowledging the presence of extensive federal spending and the need for greater oversight. He says this is the ninth year they have worked through this, and that there is always a need for more eyes on it and greater transparency. He emphasizes that the problem is not confined to a single administration or Congress, but rather that there is broad complexity requiring scrutiny and sunshine. Speaker 1 identifies the shutdown as the largest area of waste in the prior year, stating that $85,000,000,000 was lost during that period. He argues that shutdowns do have real fiscal impacts, countering a common belief that they do not affect outcomes. He then points to a specific critique: a quarter of a billion dollars was spent on transitioning mice and monkeys by NIH. He claims that American taxpayers do not want their dollars spent on such activities, and reiterates that taxpayers are more supportive of spending on national defense, education, and infrastructure, but not on what he describes as wasteful or inappropriate expenditures. Across the exchange, the speakers stress the overarching theme of government spending that does not align with the public’s perceived priorities. They emphasize the need for oversight and accountability, highlighting large-scale waste associated with shutdowns and specific research expenditures. The dialogue centers on contrasting perceived essential investments with expenditures they describe as wasteful or misaligned with taxpayer priorities, especially in the context of animal research and international laboratory activities.

The speaker asserts there is an enormous amount of waste, fraud, and abuse in the government, particularly within Medicare. They claim past proponents of budget cuts are now opposing efforts to eliminate waste. The speaker states that eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicare will require cuts, with the goal of cutting the "bad stuff" while preserving the "good stuff." The speaker accuses certain individuals, identified by a picture, of rooting against these efforts, labeling them as examples of waste, fraud, and abuse.

The speaker outlines several policy and oversight actions within HUD and related agencies. First, they assert that non-permanent residents are no longer eligible for FHA insured mortgages, and that public housing authorities are being audited to ensure taxpayer dollars do not support illegal aliens, insisting that “American dollars should benefit American citizens and American citizens only.” Despite these emphasis on restricting benefits, the speaker notes that HUD previously provided a pathway for home ownership and supported housing affordability for more than 1,000,000 Americans through FHA and Ginnie Mae, highlighting the agency’s impact in expanding access to housing and affordability. On stewardship and accountability, the speaker emphasizes a strong focus on cracking down on waste and fraud and abuse. They cite findings from the office of the chief financial officer (CFO) regarding potential financial issues: more than $5,000,000,000 in potential payment errors and over $50,000,000,000 in total rental assistance for fiscal year 2024. They also point to a specific problem within that broader amount: money that went to nearly 30,000 dead people. The speaker characterizes these financial findings as ludicrous and unacceptable, stating that such issues are a violation of the sacred trust with American taxpayers. They assert that the problem “has to end, and it will,” signaling a firm commitment to ending waste, fraud, and abuse and to restoring confidence in the management of housing programs and related federal dollars.

We're uncovering massive fraud, waste, and abuse daily. Recently, it was discovered that there were $2.7 trillion in improper payments to Medicare, Medicaid, and overseas. Social Security payments are even going to deceased individuals. We're also seeing contracts where the full amount wasn't delivered. For example, a million-dollar contract might only see $500,000 distributed, and we're working to find where the rest of the money went. This is exactly what I campaigned on, and what 77 million people elected me to do.

There are no Doge cuts, and this is not USAID. The speaker is talking about waste and fraud, specifically in Medicaid, and claims no one has been turned over to the DOJ for fraud. Elon Musk gave false hope to a political class that doesn't want to cut anything. The big bill has problems, but it passed because Musk promised a trillion dollars. The rescission next week is $9 billion, with $2 billion from PBS and NPR. There's supposedly $7 billion in fraud on a $7 trillion budget. Musk committed $1 trillion to the President, leading to questions about whether it's all "BS."

Speaker 0 expressed disappointment with a large spending bill, claiming it increases the budget deficit. Speaker 0 connected this to the work being done by the Doge team. Speaker 1 stated that everything done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year due to the bill. Speaker 0 stated that a bill can be big or beautiful, but not both, in their opinion.

The speaker claims $5 trillion in untraceable payments exist with no record of where the money went. They allege Social Security sent out $72 billion in bad checks, and the head of Social Security resigned. The speaker finds the resignation suspicious. Speaker 1 asserts there is no waste in the Pentagon, Treasury, or HHS. Speaker 1 asks why Speaker 0 is not celebrating cuts and reforms if they agree there is waste, abuse, and corruption. Speaker 1 claims billions of dollars are being saved. Speaker 0 attempts to calm Speaker 1 down, stating they are not having a debate. Speaker 1 insists they are not trying to debate and will speak freely about saving Americans billions of dollars.