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The speaker claims the Russia-Ukraine war is an extension of Russiagate, which desensitized the Democratic party to hating Russia. According to the speaker, Democrats needed an explanation for Trump's victory besides their own failures, and initially blamed Cambridge Analytica. When that didn't satisfy, the "Russia narrative" emerged. The speaker says Russiagate led Democrats to view Russia negatively, beyond a normal Western perspective, as if Trump were a Kremlin attaché. Thus, after Putin's invasion of Ukraine, the Democrat party, formerly anti-war, showed a subdued response to funding the war. The speaker suggests this is because Putin became an acceptable villain, conflated with Trump, due to Russiagate. Another speaker adds that many were pro-Russia when it was Soviet because it was anti-Christian, but turned against it when it became Orthodox again. The speaker concludes that skepticism about sending money to Ukraine, once a left-wing position, was subdued because Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat party.

The speaker claims that President Obama and top members of his administration interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections. They allege that 50 intelligence officials were influenced by the former Secretary of State to falsely claim the Hunter Biden laptop had earmarks of a Russian information campaign, despite the FBI knowing it was genuine. The speaker demands the press be honest and Pulitzer Prizes be returned, claiming they were either duped or complicit in pushing a false narrative that put America in political turmoil. They assert this was a Hillary Clinton dirty trick involving the Steele dossier, which was used to instigate the Mueller investigation and impeachment. The speaker believes this election interference is worse than anything Russia or China could achieve and was orchestrated by President Obama, President Biden, James Brett, John Brennan, and others. They state the American people should have known this, but it was not covered by the legacy media.

The discussion centers on whether high-ranking Democrats abused their intelligence positions to convince Americans that Russia stole the 2016 election. One participant alleges a conspiracy led by Obama, claiming Democrats couldn't believe Trump won and wanted to delegitimize his presidency. Counterarguments emphasize that a bipartisan committee, including Marco Rubio, concluded Russia interfered, but didn't change votes. The conversation explores whether the issue is the intelligence community's conclusions or public belief. One participant defends Obama's actions, citing his transition with Trump. Another claims Obama was the architect of the Russian collusion narrative, feeding fake intelligence to the media. A counterpoint is made that Trump acted differently when Biden won. One person suggests the conversation is a distraction tactic employed by Donald Trump.

Speaker 0 states that sources claim Brennan used "reverse targeting" to entrap Trump advisors Carter Page and George Papadopoulos via Halper and Mifsud. Papadopoulos told former Australian ambassador Downer about Russian offers to help Trump. This appears to be how Russiagate started. Speaker 1 believes John Brennan is a dark figure. Speaker 1 was arrested in 2012 and charged with espionage for blowing the whistle on the sea ice torch program. Speaker 1 claims to have found memos where Brennan told Holder to charge him with espionage, even though Holder's people didn't think he committed it, and then to make him defend himself. The espionage charges were dropped after Speaker 1 went bankrupt from legal fees. Speaker 1 believes Brennan was responsible for the origin of Russiagate. Speaker 1 claims the FBI isn't capable of such operations, but the CIA and John Brennan are. Speaker 1 claims Brennan and his contemporaries devise operations to get from point A to point C, ruining people along the way, and discusses potential tactics.

Speaker 0 discusses the lack of trust in leaders due to misinformation and lies surrounding various events like COVID, Russian collusion, and the Ukraine impeachment trial. They mention the ASOF battalion's actions in Eastern Ukraine and its alleged ties to Nazis. The speaker also brings up the CIA's involvement in Ukraine's color revolution and the alleged corruption involving Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Mitt Romney's children. They claim that Ukraine has been a center for money laundering and criticize the deep state and unelected bureaucrats for deceiving the public. Overall, the speaker suggests that Putin has warned against globalist control and bioweapon facilities for years.

Donald Trump's campaign chairman was secretly meeting with Russian intelligence, and Russia interfered with the election to attack democracy. One speaker believes Trump is guilty because he knows something about Russia and questions why Trump believed Putin more than U.S. intelligence. Another speaker suggests Trump views the government's role as advancing his political fortunes and destroying enemies, envisioning a second term resembling Vladimir Putin's Russia or Viktor Orban's Hungary. Russia intervened heavily in the 2016 election to elect Trump through a social media campaign and hacking. This is compared to Watergate, with a virtual break-in and a presidential cover-up. There are concerns that Putin and the Kremlin could attempt to intervene in the 2024 election, especially with the war in Ukraine and NATO enlargement. Russia has more at stake and less reason to avoid risk, viewing Trump as a lifeline due to U.S. support for Ukraine. It is expected that Russia will engage, and the question is how much.

The war right now happening between Russia, Ukraine, and the West support of it actually was an extension of Russiagate. "Russiagate desensitized the Democrat party to hate Russia." The Russia narrative "came ex nihilo." "Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat party." "That all goes back to Russiagate." Our intel services are actually more about picking winners and losers in American elections and to thwart the will of pop sovereignty. "Obama personally ordered an intel report"—"Russia behind this election?" The report said no. "Russia was not behind this election, did not manipulate votes." FBI and CIA seem to be working on the same page. "The insurance policy" and "Dossier paid for by the Democrat party with Clinton funds to then illegally be able to spy on the Trump campaign." Rod Rosenstein was running the entire DOJ. This is the fourth branch of government—"unelected, unaccountable."

News alert discusses Tulsi Gabbard releasing a report alleging a conspiracy by a sitting president, Barack Obama, and U.S. intel agencies to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency and the 2016 election. The report claims there is irrefutable evidence that Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment they knew was false, promoting a narrative that Russia interfered in 2016 to help Trump win. Gabbard says she obtained a House Intelligence Committee report that had been locked away in a CIA vault for nearly a decade, and investigators spent over two thousand hours interviewing 20 CIA and FBI officials. The assertion is that the Obama administration doctored intelligence to imply Putin and Trump colluded to steal the election, with a highly unusual, rush-developed assessment produced a month after Trump’s victory. John Brennan allegedly handpicked five CIA analysts to write the assessment, who were siloed and not aware of each other’s work, with only one analyst in charge of drafting. The process was described as a rush job with no coordination with other intelligence agencies, essentially “home cooking” for Obama. The four key elements repeated in the assessment, forming the basis of the Russia hoax and the Mueller investigation, are: 1) that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win; 2) Putin took actions to help Trump win; 3) the Russians had blackmail on Trump (the Steele dossier); and 4) that the Russians tried colluding with the Trump campaign. The claim is that none of these were true, and there was no reliable intelligence to support them. Senior CIA officials allegedly refused to propagate these allegations, but were overruled by CIA Director Brennan and FBI Director Comey, who pressed for them despite lacking verifiable evidence. The report alleges the Obama administration cherry-picked intelligence, misquoted sources, did not corroborate claims, suppressed counter-evidence, and even used anonymous internet postings. Rank-and-file CIA personnel allegedly admitted that these actions violated tradecraft standards, with a pressure campaign emanating from political appointees, the CIA director, and Obama himself. Speaker 1 asserts that Donald Trump knows Russia helped him win in 2016. Speaker 2 suggests Putin’s preference for Trump came from his dislike of Hillary Clinton, who was running, while Speaker 3 states Russia sought to interfere systematically to advance Trump’s prospects. The conversation notes that at one point, 60% of Democrats believed Russia hacked voting machines to aid Trump, yet the report contends Russians aimed to create chaos and undermine faith in democracy, with solid intelligence indicating Putin had no clear preference between Clinton and Trump but had dirt on Clinton that was not released. The discussion questions why the dirt from the DNC emails and claims about Clinton’s health, including tranquilizers, were not leaked to aid Trump, and whether the information about Clinton’s health is credible. The panel suggests that if Russia sought to influence the election, more damning information would have been released. The speakers claim Obama and top intelligence leaders mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious sources to craft a narrative of Putin’s preference for Trump. They contend Obama continued pushing the hoax after the election, describing it as undermining democracy. Towards the end, there is mention of potential criminal implications, with references to referrals to the Department of Justice and FBI for investigation, including possible liability for Obama. A tester voices that Brennan may have committed perjury before Congress. A final note asserts that the CIA did not rely on the Steele dossier for the intelligence community assessment, countering a claim made in the discussion. The segment closes with a call for accountability.

The speakers claim the U.S. is at war with an intrusive federal government component due to a Marxist takeover that began with Barack Obama. They allege the 2020 election was stolen and that Trump survived an assassination attempt. They call for crushing the "deep state" and demand investigations and indictments related to Russiagate. They assert the CIA framed Trump by directing foreign spies to target campaign associates, triggering an FBI investigation and the Mueller probe. They claim Russia wanted Hillary Clinton to win in 2016, and the CIA manipulated intelligence to suggest otherwise. John Brennan is accused of orchestrating a phony intelligence assessment contradicting raw intelligence. Speakers allege a January 5th meeting led by Obama involved Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Yates and Rice conspiring to undermine Trump's presidency. They claim a report presented to Trump the next day was a lie. Brennan, Clapper, and Comey are described as soldiers executing orders to undermine Trump. They also allege foreign interference in the 2020 election by China, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and Iran. One speaker states the Democratic Party, intelligence agencies, and DOJ worked to steal the election with the help of communist China. They conclude the greatest threat to America is subversion from within, specifically from high-ranking intelligence and security officials acting on behalf of Obama.

- Speaker 0 states they believe certain people are dishonest and crooked and that they may have to pay a price; they insist they are truly bad and dishonest people, and imply consequences may follow. - Speaker 1 discusses a criminal investigation into James Comey and John Brennan related to the so-called Russian collusion hoax, asserting they tried to ruin Trump’s life and that he prevailed. - Speaker 1 notes that for years, ranking members of Congress, the intelligence community, and the FBI claimed Donald Trump was colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election, and that this was continued through his first presidency. - Speaker 2 references emails suggesting Donald Trump Jr. was willing to collude with Russia, questioning how to know what happens when Trump and Putin meet, and suggests Trump’s repeated denials of collusion may have been truthful. - Speaker 3 asks if there has been any evidence of collusion, coordination, or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, and Speaker 2 disagrees, saying there is plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight. - Speaker 1 cites a recently declassified CIA “lessons learned” document from John Ratcliffe noting that the investigation was messed up, aimed at preventing Trump from winning and then hampering his agenda, and mentions multiple procedural anomalies in the preparation of the ICA (intelligence community assessment). - They walk through the timeline: Christopher Steele, a former MI-6 officer with Russian intel expertise, was hired by Fusion GPS, which was paid by Perkins Coie for Hillary Clinton’s campaign (notably Mark Elias) to produce opposition research on Trump; this unvetted dossier was used to bolster the case and was shopped to media to create a narrative of Trump-Russia ties, then used as a legal hook to push a narrative. - Speaker 1 argues Hillary Clinton leveraged influence to funnel the unverified dossier into the FBI and into a FISA warrant for Carter Page, noting it was not disclosed that the dossier was funded by Hillary Clinton, which they view as a major omission. - Ratcliffe’s document is cited as saying including the Steele dossier in the ICA undermined credibility and ran counter to tradecraft principles. - A second parallel element involved Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer paid by Fusion GPS and Clinton campaign, who met Don Jr. at Trump Tower; Don Jr. texted during the meeting that he was unsure what was happening, and the meeting was publicly used to support the Steele dossier claims about Trump’s ties to Russia. - The Speaker covers Hillary Clinton’s classified server issue, including the use of BleachBit and hammers, and notes DNC servers were hacked by Russia; they frame these events as being used to shift focus to Trump collusion. - They describe Crossfire Hurricane as the investigation into Trump, calling it an “insurance policy” to deflect attention from Clinton’s classified server issues and to portray Trump as guilty, describing the investigations into Trump associates (Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Manafort, Flynn) as efforts to keep the narrative alive even after Trump’s election victory. - Speaker 1 asserts Mueller’s appointment was scope-limited but later expanded, allowing broad access and substantial taxpayer cost; Brennan and Comey are accused of feeding initial information for a political purpose, with high-level agency involvement and misrepresentation in Congress. - They claim there was never any actual evidence of Russian collusion charged against the Trump campaign. - They mention Charles McGonigal, a former FBI counterintelligence official, as someone charged in connection with Russia, implying the broader narrative was invalid and asserting that those involved lied. - The speakers conclude that the entire setup was a scam and express a desire for accountability.

War over Ukraine and Western support 'was an extension of Russiagate,' desensitizing the Democrat party to hate Russia. 'Cambridge Analytica' was the first attempt, and 'the Russia narrative came ex nihilo.' 'Tulsi is getting to the bottom of it.' 'Putin became an acceptable villain for the Democrat party' and 'That all goes back to Russiagate' and 'the lie of the dirty dossier.' 'Our intel services are supposed to gather intelligence and defend the homeland' but are 'actually more about picking winners and losers' and 'thwarting the will of pop popular sovereignty.' 'Obama personally ordered an intel report' concluding 'Russia was not behind this election' (December 2016, now declassified). 'FBI and the CIA' seem to be on the same page and 'the insurance policy' leads to 'Rosenstein' 'running the entire DOJ.' Perp walks are called for to address the 'fourth branch of government'—'unaccountable' and 'unelected.'

Speaker 1 leads a march against the Russian consulate, claiming that the Russians are fighting the Khazarian mafia and trying to eradicate those who have been destroying the planet. They believe that the Russians, along with other nations, are engaged in a secret war to exterminate vermin. They argue that COVID mandates are part of a larger plan to depopulate the planet. Speaker 1 dismisses criticism from former colleagues and urges people to do their own research. They believe their messages have broad appeal and that major political parties are falling apart. They express hope to be proven wrong about the dire consequences they predict.

Speaker 1 leads a march against the Russian consulate, claiming that the Russians are fighting the Khazarian mafia and trying to eradicate those who have been destroying the planet. They believe that the Russians, along with other nations, are engaged in a secret war to exterminate vermin. They connect this to the anti-mandate movement, stating that COVID mandates are part of a larger plan to depopulate the planet. Speaker 1 dismisses criticism from former colleagues and urges people to do their own research. They believe their messages have broad appeal and that the current political parties are falling apart. They express concern about declining birth rates and hope to be proven wrong.

The Biden administration allegedly influenced Ukraine to abandon a peace deal with Russia, resulting in significant loss of life and territory. The U.S. is accused of exploiting Ukraine's resources for profit while claiming to support its people. The conversation highlights the unsustainable nature of prolonged military engagement and the human cost involved. There's a critique of how U.S. foreign policy impacts domestic issues, including censorship and the erosion of democracy. The discussion also touches on the potential dangers of an EMP attack on the electrical grid, emphasizing the need for protective measures that were revoked under Biden. The media's role in shaping public perception and the challenges of free speech in the current political climate are also explored. The urgency of addressing these issues for the future of democracy and human rights is underscored.

Putin was unhappy with Speaker 1 for raising concerns about the unfairness of Russia's 2011 parliamentary elections. Putin is paranoid about mass movements near Russia that could lead to democracy, closer ties with the EU, or NATO membership. The speaker believes Russia is still interfering with U.S. democracy by influencing opinions and election systems. She believes she was an obstacle to Russia's plans to undermine U.S. democracy and impose authoritarian control, and that Russia wanted to remove her to achieve other goals. Russia is still stirring up trouble and influencing people on social media, including efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act to cause political disruption. Electing a president was only part of Russia's plan. Putin aims to undermine democracies using money, blackmail, and inducements to bend political and business leaders to his will. The speaker doesn't know if Trump is a witting or unwitting tool of Putin, but believes Putin is playing a long game to undermine democracies.

The speakers discuss the troubling state of the country's financial markets and international spending, advocating for an audit of all money leaving the country. They express concern over the monetary system, the potential destruction of the dollar, and the size and scope of government. The conversation shifts to the Federal Reserve, with one speaker referencing Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's questioning of the Fed's success and the need for a review. A senator is quoted calling for an audit of the Fed, while another advocates for ending the institution altogether. The main topic revolves around declassified documents revealing an alleged coup attempt against President Trump after the 2016 election. It's claimed that the intelligence community initially assessed Russia was not substantially interfering in the election but later manufactured and politicized intelligence to suggest otherwise. The speakers discuss the implications of this alleged falsification, including the potential for nuclear war with Russia and the sabotage of diplomacy. They also touch on the infiltration of leftist ideology into various institutions and the importance of addressing corruption.

During the debate, Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of lying about a Russian plan and claims that there is overwhelming evidence of Russian engagement. Speaker 1 denies these allegations, stating that intelligence agencies and former heads of the CIA have called it garbage. Speaker 0 also accuses the FBI of cheating by telling Facebook and Twitter what to do. Speaker 2 believes that the objective is to stop Donald Trump and what he represents in the political process. Speaker 0 concludes by accusing Joe Biden of lying about a major scandal, calling it cheating and election interference on an unprecedented scale.

"the Russia narrative came ex nihilo. It came out of nowhere." "the dossier paid for by the Democrat party with Clinton funds to then illegally be able to spy on the Trump campaign." "Obama personally ordered an intel report." "Russia was not behind this election, did not manipulate votes." "We need perp walks. We need handcuffs. We need mass arrests." "the fourth branch of government that the founders never created." "Buy now, pay later is how 60%, according to surveys, of generation z is paying for things month to month." "three main companies, Klarna, Affirm, and Afterpay." "home prices were on average about three times the average income in America. They are now seven times the average income in America." "We are a nation of strangers. The ties that bind us together are purely economic." "Donald Trump built this movement of younger voters that galvanized the nation." "amnesty's coming."