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In my consultations, I convince people to get vaccinated. I believe that around 25 to 30 percent of them, which is the majority, are not anti-vaxxers but rather individuals who are afraid. It is important to address these fears, and I assure you that the vaccine is safe and effective.

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The speaker claims the U.S. is managing its measles epidemic better than other countries, citing approximately 842 cases compared to Canada's similar number with one-eighth the population, and Europe's ten times higher figure. The speaker states that U.S. measles cases have plateaued. The speaker identifies the Mennonite population in Texas as particularly afflicted due to religious objections to the MMR vaccine, which they believe contains aborted fetus debris and DNA particles. The speaker criticizes the CDC's focus on vaccination as the sole solution, asserting that various treatments exist for those who contract measles. The speaker advocates for compassionate treatment and the development of effective treatment protocols, which they claim the CDC is currently working on.

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Vaccine hesitancy is a significant issue in the black and Hispanic communities. The speaker believes that instead of writing articles about why black people are hesitant, we should encourage everyone, including black people, to get vaccinated. They criticize Louis Farrakhan for spreading misinformation about the COVID vaccine. The speaker emphasizes that vaccines are effective in preventing hospitalization and death, even if they don't fully protect against breakthrough cases. They personally support mandatory vaccinations because the science disproves any links between vaccines and autism.

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The White House blames a few bad actors for spreading online misinformation. The speaker disagrees with the idea that wearing masks is the best way to prevent infectious diseases. They mention that getting vaccinated provides the best protection against infection. The speaker also addresses the misconception that vaccines can make people worse. They mention the possibility of future challenges in infectious diseases and the need for rapid response to new threats. The speaker denies funding gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology and denies lying before Congress.

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The speaker claims the fight against vaccine refusal is being waged at the family, physician, and health center level. They propose a solution focused on vaccine refusers, specifying that most hesitant individuals can be persuaded. The speaker suggests focusing on Houston, the most diverse city in the U.S., with seven Asian languages spoken. They state that they have been a minority in Houston for over 20 years, where the majority is "Hispanic," which they define as a political designation, not a race or ethnicity. The speaker asserts that immigrants are the most willing to get vaccinated, contrasting this with the well-educated who have been in the U.S. for a long time. They reference Donald Trump's comment about immigrants bringing disease, arguing that immigrants actually have better vaccination rates than some U.S. populations.

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The speaker claims the U.S. is managing its measles epidemic better than other countries, citing approximately 842 cases compared to Canada's similar number with one-eighth the population, and Europe's ten times higher figures. The speaker notes that the rate of measles growth in the U.S. has plateaued. They attribute a high affliction rate among Mennonites in Texas to religious objections to the MMR vaccine, due to its alleged content of aborted fetus debris and DNA particles. The speaker criticizes the CDC's focus solely on vaccination, asserting that treatments exist for measles. They advocate for compassionate treatment and the development of treatment protocols, which they claim the CDC is currently working on.

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The speaker emphasizes the importance of getting vaccinated, stating that those who refuse to do so are putting everyone at risk. They criticize the anti-vaxxers, describing them as a small fringe element that rejects science and resorts to racist and misogynistic attacks. The speaker asserts that these individuals should not have the power to influence government policies. They make it clear that if someone chooses not to get vaccinated, they should not expect to travel alongside vaccinated individuals and endanger them. The speaker urges others to condemn and correct these anti-vaxxers, expressing their unwavering commitment to the truth supported by science.

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The speaker emphasizes the importance of getting vaccinated, stating that those who refuse to do so are putting everyone at risk. They criticize the anti-vaxxers, calling them a small fringe element that rejects science and resorts to racist and misogynistic attacks. The speaker asserts that these individuals do not have the power to dictate government policy. They urge people to get vaccinated if they want to travel on planes or trains with vaccinated individuals. The speaker encourages condemning and correcting those who oppose vaccination, and they express their determination to stand firm in their beliefs based on scientific evidence.

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Speaker 0 states that permanent residents in the U.S. are mandated to be up to date on CDC-recommended vaccines, but this is not mandated for those entering the country illegally. Speaker 0 claims that measles cases in New Orleans are coming from people entering the country from elsewhere. Speaker 0 asks if the federal government should mandate that those becoming U.S. citizens be up to date on their immunizations. Speaker 1 states they are strongly pro-vaccine, an advisor to a vaccine company, and supports the CDC vaccine schedule.

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Speaker 0 emphasizes the importance of being respectful and getting vaccinated for the sake of others. Speaker 1 believes that those who choose not to get vaccinated should stay home and not work. Speaker 2 points out that the majority of deaths are among the unvaccinated and calls those spreading misinformation criminals. Speaker 3 encourages parents and children to get vaccinated. Speaker 4 mentions the normalization of untruths and compares it to denying the election results. Speaker 5 highlights that despite efforts, the majority of unvaccinated Americans remain resistant. Finally, Speaker 1 acknowledges the difficulty in resisting the vaccine but praises those who chose not to get vaccinated as a symbol of liberty.

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The speaker emphasizes the complexity of the issue, stating that the health sector alone cannot solve it. Collaboration with other departments like Homeland Security and NATO is necessary. They stress the importance of countering anti-vaccine aggression, highlighting the impact of such beliefs on public health.

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During COVID, I was on the board of my kids' school and initially supported a strict lockdown policy. However, I now realize that keeping kids out of school for longer had a greater negative impact than the risks. We all operated with imperfect information, including myself, the CDC, and the governor. Let's learn from this and hold each other accountable while showing grace and forgiveness. Unfortunately, about 1 in 5 US adults are unwilling to get vaccinated, making them the global runner-up in vaccine hesitancy. This means roughly 56 million Americans are 11 times more likely to die from COVID than the rest of the population. It's embarrassing that some Americans are playing Russian roulette with their lives and the lives of others. Despite this, America's healthcare response to COVID has been a victory, thanks to the vaccines.

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The speaker's message to unvaccinated Americans is: what more is there to wait for? Vaccinations are free, safe, and convenient, and the vaccine has FDA approval. Over 200 million Americans have gotten at least one shot. The speaker states that patience is wearing thin, and refusal to vaccinate has cost everyone. The speaker urges people to do the right thing and listen to unvaccinated Americans in hospitals taking their final breaths, saying, "if only I'd gotten vaccinated." The speaker concludes by saying, "It's a tragedy. Please don't let it become yours."

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A week in Greene County indicates vaccine hesitancy is more complex than surveys suggest, with politics not being the primary driver. Fear is the most common reason, specifically regarding the speed of development and unknown long-term side effects. Decisions are also influenced by beliefs about bodily autonomy, science, authority, and a regional self-image of independence. There are three groups of unvaccinated individuals that must be approached differently. One group is anti-vaxx and anti-science, and may not be vaccinating their children. This group should not be the primary target.

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In the last 5 years, studies have shown that vaccine refusers, specifically those who refuse vaccines without hesitation, can be a challenge to convince. One potential solution suggested is to focus on the diverse population in the United States, particularly in cities like New York, where there are 7 Asian languages spoken. By targeting and engaging with this diverse community, efforts can be made to address vaccine hesitancy and encourage more people to accept vaccines.

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We will overcome this pandemic through vaccination. Some people are hesitant, and we will continue to try to convince them. There are also a small but vocal group of extremists who oppose vaccination. They reject science and often hold misogynistic and racist views. As leaders, we must decide whether to tolerate these individuals or focus on the majority who have done their part and gotten vaccinated. We want to return to the activities we love, and these individuals will not block us.

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I believe it's important to offer incentives to those who are hesitant about getting vaccinated. We don't need to convince every single person individually. The problem lies with those who hesitate, and we need to address that. It's crucial to emphasize that the vaccines are mostly free of side effects. Those who refuse to get vaccinated have been victims of misinformation on social media and exploitation by political forces. We need to reach out to them as well.

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Speaker 0 outlines a controversial "Solution" regarding vaccine refusers. He states, "Every study published in the last five years, when you look at vaccine refusers, I'm not talking about, well, hesitance, most of them we can talk into coming to terms, but refusers." He then adds a stark claim, "We'll just get rid of all the whites in The United States because it is the most diverse city in the entire United States." He closes with, "There are seven Asian languages spoken the solution." The remarks distinguish "refusers" from general hesitancy and present the speaker's call for removal of a racial group as part of a "solution," while noting the multilingual diversity of a city.

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In the last 5 years, studies have focused on vaccine refusers, specifically those who refuse vaccines rather than being hesitant. The speaker suggests removing all white individuals from the United States, as it is a diverse city with 7 Asian languages spoken.

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The speaker asserts that fellow Americans are the biggest enemy and the unvaccinated cannot be trusted. They state that now is the time to do what you're told, and it's not about freedom or personal choice. The speaker expresses frustration, stating that the refusal to vaccinate has cost everyone. One speaker contrasts the treatment of a vaccinated person having a heart attack with an unvaccinated person who took "horse goo." The speaker claims the unvaccinated overcrowd hospitals, overrun emergency rooms and ICUs, leaving no room for others. They call the unvaccinated "schmucks" and claim this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated and their freedom.

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What we need to do at our agency is to make sure the public believes in the things that we're saying. And the way that we do that is by telling the truth. There are many other countries that actually have a higher vaccination rates than ours where, there are no mandates, and it's because people trust their government. The Americans have lost faith in the federal government. Sixty percent of Americans say that they will not take that vaccine no matter what. And only thirteen percent of children although it's recommended for a hundred percent of children, only thirteen percent are complying. And that's after a billion dollar campaign to persuade people to take. It's the biggest campaign for a pharmaceutical product in history.

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Speaker 1 states that less than one percent of the public is totally unvaccinated. The Amish are given as an example of a largely unvaccinated group. Speaker 1 claims it is very rare to find an autistic child in the Amish community, and that ADD, autoimmune disease, PANDA PANS, and epilepsy are also rare. Speaker 1 asserts the U.S. government has studied the Amish for decades, but has not released a report. Speaker 1 believes the reason for this is that the report would show that not following government guidelines leads to better health outcomes. Speaker 1 concludes that the report would be devastating to the narrative and would show that the CDC has been harming the public for decades by burying data.

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First speaker: The question is about how many people are totally unvaccinated, and whether this is mainly among parents who stepped up. The claim is that it’s a very small percentage because many people blindly followed the vaccination recommendations for children. Second speaker: It’s less than one percent of the public who are unvaccinated. The Amish are given as a perfect example of a large group that is largely unvaccinated. The speaker asserts that you won’t find an autistic child who was unvaccinated, and that such chronic diseases as ADD, autoimmune diseases, PANDA/PANS, and epilepsy are very rare in the Amish community. The speaker claims that the US government has studied the Amish for decades, but there has never been a public report. The reason given is that such a report would show that not following the guidelines leads to healthier outcomes, and therefore there would be a disclosure that would be devastating to the narrative. According to the speaker, there is no public report because it would reveal that the CDC has been harming the public for decades and is bearing all the data privately.

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In the last 5 years, studies have focused on vaccine refusers, specifically those who refuse vaccines rather than being hesitant. The speaker suggests a solution by proposing to eliminate all white individuals in the United States, as it is considered the most diverse city in the country with 7 Asian languages spoken.

The Peter Attia Drive Podcast

#159-Peter Hotez MD, PhD.: The anti-vaccine movement, causes of autism, & COVID-19 vaccine update

Guests: Peter Hotez, Brian Deer, Andrew Wakefield

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In this episode of The Drive podcast, host Peter Attia engages with guests Peter Hotez, Brian Deer, and Andrew Wakefield to discuss the ongoing issues surrounding vaccines, particularly in light of the anti-vaccine movement that gained traction after Andrew Wakefield's discredited claims linking the MMR vaccine to autism. Hotez highlights the persistent belief among a segment of the population that vaccines cause autism, despite extensive scientific evidence debunking this myth. He notes that the anti-vaccine movement has evolved, shifting its focus from specific vaccines to broader claims about vaccine safety and health freedom, often politicized and intertwined with right-wing extremism. The conversation touches on the role of thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative previously used in vaccines, which has been removed from most childhood vaccines due to public concern, despite no evidence linking it to autism. Hotez explains that the anti-vaccine lobby has continually moved the goalposts, shifting their claims from thimerosal to vaccine schedules and other factors, complicating the public's understanding of vaccine safety. Attia emphasizes the importance of providing clear, evidence-based information to parents who are confused about vaccination schedules and the necessity of vaccines. They discuss the increasing prevalence of autism diagnoses, attributing it to better awareness and diagnostic criteria rather than a true increase in incidence. Hotez shares personal insights about his daughter with autism, emphasizing the need for understanding and support for families affected by autism. The discussion also covers the HPV vaccine, which has faced significant backlash due to its association with sexual health, despite its potential to prevent cervical cancer. Hotez notes that misinformation has led to vaccine hesitancy, particularly among certain demographics, including white Republicans and some minority communities. As the conversation shifts to COVID-19 vaccines, Hotez discusses the challenges of vaccine distribution, particularly in low- and middle-income countries, and the need for equitable access to vaccines globally. He expresses concern over the emergence of new variants and the potential for vaccine resistance, emphasizing the importance of continued research and public health initiatives to combat misinformation and promote vaccination. Overall, the episode underscores the complexities of vaccine discourse, the impact of misinformation, and the critical need for clear communication and public health advocacy to ensure community health and safety.