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The speakers reference Casey Means' controversial vaccine remarks made with her brother on Joe Rogan's podcast. They present the quote: "It's like with vaccines, it's like, yeah. I bet that one vaccine probably isn't causing autism. But what about the the 20 that they're getting before eighteen months? Like, we don't look at it in synergistic, you know, and so that's that's a big problem." They then comment that "That's not great. In fact, I will go so far as to say that that is the most obviously horseshit thing Casey Means has said since claiming that that smoothie was really good on the Meat Juice Farmcast hosted by what appears to be Pinterest's final boss. That feels really dangerous."

RFK Jr. continues to falsely claim that vaccines cause autism, and he's made childhood vaccines a major target. This is dangerous and will lead to the death of children. When RFK Jr. says we have more chronic diseases in children than ever before, he's citing the instance of autism spectrum disorder. There are many interesting causes of autism spectrum disorder, like the infant microbiome, genetics, or medicines that pregnant people take during their pregnancy. But by focusing on childhood vaccines, he's focusing on the one thing that doesn't cause autism. Vaccines are really the safest, best-tested things that we give to children, and that's what is making America healthy. To focus on vaccines as a target and claim that they're causing harm when they're not is only a detriment to America's children.

All of this cannot be true. Are you lying to Congress about being pro-vaccine, or did you lie on those podcasts? We have it all on tape. Senator, that statement from the Lex Fridman podcast has been debunked. I was asked if there are safe and effective vaccines, and I said some live virus vaccines are. I also stated that no vaccine is universally safe and effective, as every medicine has individuals who may react negatively, including vaccines. I was interrupted before I could elaborate. I've clarified this multiple times, including on national TV, so bringing it up now is misleading.

Speaker 0 questions the idea that Doctor Fauci is involved in a plot to kill millions, seeking clarity on the claim. Speaker 1 says they are reasonable and that Fauci is not an innocent bystander; he is aware of what he’s doing, but the extent of involvement is not known to them. Speaker 2 cites the Center for Countering Digital Hate, stating Dirashad Bhattar is one of the top spreaders of COVID disinformation, once with more than a million followers. Bhattar allegedly claimed “More people are dying from the COVID vaccine than from COVID,” and that “the Red Cross won’t accept blood from people who have had the COVID nineteen vaccine.” He posted that “most who took COVID vaccines will be dead by 2025,” and promoted the overarching conspiracy that COVID was a planned operation as part of a secret global plot to depopulate the earth. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 2 believes the pandemic was planned; Speaker 2 confirms there is a suspicion of a plan to reduce the population, though Speaker 1 says they have no idea. Speaker 2 criticizes Bhattar, saying it would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous and that Qatar (Qatar’s commentary) compares COVID and the vaccine to World War II and Doctor Anthony Fauci to Adolf Hitler. Speaker 1 pushes back by asking to what extent Fauci would be equated with Hitler. Speaker 3 asserts that lies cost lives in a pandemic, and that encouraging people not to vaccinate will cause people to lose their lives. Speaker 2 describes Qatar as encouraging distrust of life-saving vaccines and using false, twisted information and unproven conspiracies to do so. Speaker 0 asks if the COVID vaccine works. Speaker 1 states the vaccine is very effective at what it was designed for, but “it’s not preventing death. Certainly not.” Speaker 2 contradicts, claiming that Bhattar believes life-saving vaccines are more dangerous than the virus itself, and Speaker 1 asks why the vaccine would cause more deaths than the problem itself, noting 6,340,000,000 doses administered. Speaker 0 requests the completion of a sentence about what each vaccine is geared up for, but Speaker 1 says he’s not a vaccine developer and mentions “Scientific corruption.” Speaker 2 notes Qatar has been removed from Facebook and Instagram due to disinformation but remains on Twitter, Telegram, and his own site, filled with falsehoods. Speaker 0 recalls a September 5 retweet of a doctored AstraZeneca packaging photo suggesting the vaccine was made in 2018; Speaker 1 says the photo was perhaps fake, and questions why Speaker 0 would challenge the agencies that have caused deaths. Speaker 0 argues it’s reasonable to question agencies, noting Speaker 1 had 1,200,000 followers who received false information; Speaker 1 admits if a tweet with a doctor’s photo was sent in error, it was a mistake, and he cannot make mistakes on the numbers. Speaker 2 notes vaccine studies showing vaccines remain ninety percent effective in preventing hospitalization and death, while Qatar claims the vaccine is the danger. Speaker 1 counters that thousands are dying and the delta variant is “vaccine injured,” citing CDC data, which Speaker 0 disputes as not true. Speaker 1 asserts he does not want to be part of a mass genocide and suggests this era will be remembered as a worst time in history, even worse than World War II. Speaker 0 concludes by calling Speaker 1 crazy. Speaker 2 ends with a reference to North Carolina’s Board of Medicine reprimanding someone prior to COVID.

In 2016 and again in March 2017 at the White House, the speaker met with someone who considered forming a commission to investigate the potential negative effects of vaccines. This individual was being advised by Robert Kennedy, Jr., who claimed vaccines were causing harm. The speaker advised against this course of action, stating that it would be a mistake.

The speaker criticizes Mr. Kennedy for spreading disinformation about COVID vaccines. They mention an incident where Kennedy used unvetted data from VARs to claim that vaccines were killing people, leading to vaccine hesitancy and unnecessary deaths. The speaker calls this science denial and questions Kennedy's credibility. In response, Kennedy argues that VARs is an unreliable system for reporting vaccine adverse events due to voluntary reporting. He claims that CDC's own studies show that VARs undercounts vaccine injuries by a hundredfold. Kennedy also mentions a Harvard study that developed a more accurate system, but CDC allegedly shut it down and refused to address the issue. Kennedy questions why CDC doesn't have a better system in place.

RFK has made controversial claims about vaccines, suggesting that Tony Fauci and others are responsible for the deaths of a million children and profiting significantly from vaccines. People can form their own opinions on the validity of these statements.

The speakers discuss the issue of big pharma's influence on the opioid crisis and the credibility of RFK Jr.'s claims. They mention that RFK Jr.'s statements are based on evidence that many people are unaware of. They also question the credibility of Paul Offit, who defends the mRNA vaccines, suggesting a conflict of interest. The conversation delves into the potential harm caused by the spike protein in the vaccines and the lack of targeting in mRNA technology. The speakers express confusion about why experts in the field haven't addressed these concerns. They propose inviting biologists to discuss the topic further.

"Raise your hand if you or someone you know personally had a serious adverse event to this vaccine. Raise your hand. Yep. Almost every single hand in this room was raised. 'For the con artists out of the media, it's either what's going on here?' 'Now let's go a step further. ... believe the vaccine contributed to the death of somebody that you know.' Raise your hand. '100%. Yep. Look around the room. Two people.' 'We are we're not even allowed to talk about this.' 'You just saw thousands of hands get raised, and I was very careful with how I asked the question.' 'I mean, it's beyond anything we've ever lived through in our life, and we're not even allowed to talk about it.' 'Thought police' ... 'When we're not allowed to talk about something... They got you then.' Wow. That was great video."

People dismiss this guy because of his voice, it's hard to listen to sometimes. The condition he has, you would think there'd be some way to address it. He believes that the condition came from a side effect of the flu vaccine, which he used to take every year. So he believes it's a vaccine injury, which is very ironic. Those things don't work either. Even if it protects you from that one flu, it makes you many times more likely to catch other things. We're messing around with complex systems inside human bodies with pharmaceutical drugs. The way they've studied them is filled with shenanigans.

Speaker 0 believes vaccines are the cause of all disease. Speaker 1 disagrees, calling this a bogus statement, and claims that studies have only looked at two of 36 shots and one of 35 vaccines. Speaker 1 asserts that it is irrefutable that vaccines cause autism and accuses doctors of not reading studies and misleading parents. Speaker 0 says that Speaker 1 is antagonizing the medical community and Dr. Sears. Speaker 0 states the show is about helping kids and that yelling only causes anger. Speaker 0 feels attacked for being asked to defend their stance.

The speaker is questioned about his stance on childhood vaccines, with many scientific and medical organizations disagreeing with him. The audience asks how they can help him align with science. The speaker clarifies that he is not anti-vaccine, but believes vaccines should undergo safety testing like other medicines. He criticizes the lack of prelicensing placebo-controlled trials for vaccines and cites examples of potential risks and lack of long-term studies. The other speaker argues that there is evidence of vaccines preventing diseases and highlights the importance of distinguishing between association and causation. The speaker emphasizes the need for good science and questions the trustworthiness of pharmaceutical companies. The conversation ends with a discussion about the speaker's family not supporting his views on vaccines.

The speaker, recently retired from a local hospital, claims widespread disbelief in flu shots among colleagues due to data issues, stating "the efficacy and I won't give you data. You created the data. Ten percent one year, eighteen percent the next, forty percent at best." They describe the flu vaccine given to children aged two to eight for nearly four years as ineffective, with a claimed three percent efficacy at times. The speaker contrasts this with their hospital experience, where doctors, nurses, medical assistants, patient care, and lab staff did not believe in the flu shot, until mandates and recommendations arrived. They express relief at retirement, saying their soul was sick about what they witnessed, and that conflicts of interest prevented them from speaking out while employed. They recount working on high-volume ER days with about 300 flu cases daily and claim they never contracted the flu, attributing this to personal practices: washing hands, taking vitamin D, and using a berry syrup. The speaker criticizes the shift from physicians and nurses to pharmacists administering the vaccine, accuses the system of bribing people with Target gift cards and marketing the vaccine as free, and denounces scare tactics. They observe an increase in vaccination across generations, noting "some of you are my age," with their generation having seven shots, their daughter ten, her son around sixty, and their new grandson expected to receive seventy-two vaccines, expressing shock at this escalation. The speaker references Robert F. Kennedy Jr., saying he fights for them and goes to court for kids who suffered, noting that Kennedy's family started Special Olympics. They claim that in Kennedy’s view, autism linked to vaccines is evident since there were no autistic kids in the past four decades, and allege that vaccines have caused autism. They describe watching a perfectly healthy two-year-old become a "severe autistic child" after vaccination, expressing certainty that autism exists because of vaccines. They forecast their 10-year-old grandson becoming an adult who, at age 40, would be walking in the mall with a diaper and a helmet. The speaker ends by thanking studies they claim are not done and reiterates their stance against vaccines, including autism implications, as presented in the narrative.