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In the 1980s, the cigarette industry began consolidating the food industry. By 1990, Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds owned 50% of the US food supply. They used their scientists to make food more addictive through ultra-processed foods. They also allegedly co-opted USDA and HHS nutrition guidelines to promote carbs at the base of the food pyramid. The speaker claims this led to an explosion in ultra-processed food consumption. The speaker notes that the Surgeon General advised against smoking in 1986 due to cancer rates. The speaker suggests that cancer rates have exploded since the cigarette industry moved into the food industry. The speaker jokes that cigarette companies would be healthier if they went back to making cigarettes.

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After working on political campaigns, the speaker learned that the food industry, specifically the processed food industry, was created by the cigarette industry. In the 1990s, facing scrutiny, RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris used their cash to buy food companies. These companies shifted scientists from making cigarettes addictive to creating ultra-processed foods. They also transferred their lobbying playbook to the food sector, influencing institutions to promote the food pyramid, which advocated for carbs and sugar. This led to a significant shift in the American diet towards ultra-processed foods, now comprising 70% of a child's diet. These foods contain ingredients designed to be addictive, leading to increased calorie consumption and health issues. The foundation of this diet consists of added sugars, processed grains, and seed oils. Seed oils, now the top source of American calories, were initially a byproduct of oil production and promoted for human consumption despite being inflammatory. The speaker claims the food industry aims to make food cheap and addictive, not to harm Americans.

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The speaker claims that the long-held belief that fat and red meat cause heart disease originated from a flawed study in the 1950s. According to the speaker, Ansel Keyes' seven-country study, which linked saturated fat intake to heart disease, shaped nutritional policy for decades. However, Keyes allegedly cherry-picked countries for his study, omitting those like France with high saturated fat intake but no increased heart disease risk. The speaker asserts that Keyes also ignored other key health factors like sugar intake, sedentary lifestyles, and smoking, which allowed him to blame fat and red meat. The speaker states that despite cutting out eggs, red meat, and butter, heart disease rates have continued to rise. The speaker suggests addressing unstable blood sugar, high processed food intake, and metabolic dysfunction instead, and questioning the current narrative.

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People with high cholesterol levels purportedly don't get Alzheimer's because the brain loves fat. A good cholesterol level is suggested to be 200-250. It's claimed that many people are on cholesterol-lowering medication and fat-free diets, leading to increased carb consumption due to a lack of satiation. The speaker alleges cholesterol levels have been lowered to get more people on medication and that people are eating margarine. Despite these changes, heart disease is purportedly still the number one killer.

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For years, they've blamed fat and red meat for heart disease, but that all started with one flawed study. Back in the nineteen fifties, a researcher by the name of Hansel Keyes launched the seven country study. His data showed a link between saturated fat intake and heart disease, and that shaped nutritional policy for years to come. Ansel Keyes cherry picked the countries he included in his study, leaving out countries like France who have a high intake of saturated fat but had no increased risk of heart disease. Even worse, he left out other key health factors, things like sugar intake, a sedentary lifestyle, and even smoking. All of these have huge effects on overall heart health. And by ignoring these, he was able to point the finger at fat and red meat as the overall villain.

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Speaker 0 emphasizes the importance of teaching children about nutrition. Dr. Marty Makary highlighted that refined carbs, added sugars, and ultra-processed foods are linked to an epidemic: a Journal of the American Medical Association study shows sixty to seventy percent of kids’ calories come from ultra-processed foods. This, according to Speaker 0, means a generation of children is addicted to refined carbs and low in protein, described as nitrogen negative, due to old flawed studies that mismeasured metabolism. He states this is crucial because it will change the future health of the next generation. Speaker 1 agrees and notes personal observations about health trends. He says his kids were raised differently and benefits from that, and he reflects on a photo from Metropolitan Beach in Detroit around 1965, showing him and friends without overweight individuals. He contrasts that with today, suggesting that in supermarkets you can see people and their food carts in ways that imply widespread health concerns, questioning whether they will reach their cars.

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The speaker claims that the long-held belief that fat and red meat cause heart disease originated from a flawed study in the 1950s by Hansel Keyes. According to the speaker, Keyes' seven-country study, which linked saturated fat intake to heart disease, shaped nutritional policy for decades. However, Keyes allegedly cherry-picked countries for the study, omitting France, which has high saturated fat intake but no increased heart disease risk. Keyes also supposedly ignored factors like sugar intake, sedentary lifestyles, and smoking, which have significant impacts on heart health. The speaker suggests that by ignoring these factors, Keyes wrongly blamed fat and red meat. The speaker states that despite cutting out eggs, red meat, and butter, heart disease rates have continued to rise. The speaker concludes that the real enemies are unstable blood sugar, processed foods, and metabolic dysfunction, and it's time to question the narrative and focus on true health.

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For years, they've blamed fat and red meat for heart disease, but that all started with one flawed study. Back in the nineteen fifties, a researcher by the name of Hansel Keyes launched the seven country study. Ansel Keyes cherry picked the countries he included in his study, leaving out countries like France who have a high intake of saturated fat but had no increased risk of heart disease. Even worse, he left out other key health factors, things like sugar intake, a sedentary lifestyle, and even smoking. And by ignoring these, he was able to point the finger at fat and red meat as the overall villain. It's time to address the real enemies, unstable blood sugar, high intake of processed foods, and overall metabolic dysfunction. Now is the time to question the narrative and get back to what truly makes us healthy.

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But by the 1970s there's a significant shift that hoped to prevent chronic illnesses like heart disease. Now, emerging science determined that the food we've been eating for hundreds of thousands of years, red meat, saturated fat, and cholesterol, were now killing us. And as a result of this, today we now weigh 30 more on average and heart disease is the leading cause of death. And before you jump the gun and say that's all about excess calories, the 1941 dietary guidelines recommended that an adult male weighing a hundred and fifty five pounds should consume 3,000 calories per day. But the real problem is that since 1960, our consumption of processed foods, seed oils, and rich grains, high fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners, and pesticides has gone up. And oddly, our beef consumption has gone down 40%. So maybe we got it all wrong.

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There is no high-level evidence showing even a correlation between cholesterol and heart disease. The Journal of American Medical Association published a report in 2015 detailing internal documentation from the Sugar Research Foundation. This documentation showed evidence suggesting sugar caused heart disease, and detailed how they paid off three Harvard professors to falsify data and publish fraudulent studies. These studies were designed to make it appear as if cholesterol was correlated with heart disease and exonerate sugar. One of these professors, Professor Mark, became head of the USDA and helped author the 1977 USDA dietary recommendations to significantly reduce saturated fats and cholesterol because it caused heart disease.

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The transcript discusses seed oils as a major health risk and part of a so-called “devil’s triad” contributing to obesity and diabetes. It asserts that a large share of U.S. adults over 45 are prediabetic or diabetic—64% by some data, rising to 75–78% if insulin use were measured—and claims that removing three factors—sugars, refined grains or refined tweeds, and seed oils—would eliminate the obesity and diabetes epidemics; pharmaceutical companies would suffer as a result. Seed oils are described as being extracted with hexane and solvents under very high temperature and pressure in chemical plants. What are marketed as heart-healthy golden vegetable oils (sunflower, safflower, and other seed oils) are said to be processed with high temperature and pressure, resulting in oils that are very high in omega-6 fats, which are suggested to be inflammatory signal molecules and should only be eaten in tiny amounts as calories. The speaker claims Americans get about 15% of their calories from seed oils, versus a recommended less than 0.5%; this is described as 30 times the evolutionary level and very damaging. Further, the process is criticized for hydrogenation, damage to molecular structures, deodorization, bleaching, and coloring to give a desirable appearance and scent, after which the oils are sold. The speaker asserts that hydrogenation and processing produce “rank grey rancid muck,” and that people would be repulsed by the initial oil before deodorization. The transcript asserts that seed oils are extremely damaging in quantity, especially in processed foods, while refined carbohydrates are also highly damaging. It cites studies from the late 1990s on rat models comparing seed oils with beef tallow and lard, finding major increases in tumorigenesis and tumor growth when seed oils were included at 3–4% of the diet. It claims that from around 1993 to 1999, studies increasingly showed that seed oils drive cancer if consumed above three to four percent, but that around 1998–1999 the system stopped these findings after calls were made. The speaker concludes: “All the evidence is there. That's the tip of the iceberg. Don't touch them.”

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The government actually did randomized controlled clinical trials on tens of thousands of people testing to see if saturated fat and cholesterol caused heart disease. They did this in mental hospitals where they totally controlled what people ate, with half given 'meat, butter, cheese, regular high saturated fat and cholesterol diet,' and half given 'soy filled cheese and margarine instead of butter and soy filled meat.' And in those randomized, those rigorous experiments on tens of thousands of people, they could not show that the people eating the meat and the butter and cheese died at higher rates from heart disease. In the Minnesota Coronary Survey on 9,000 men and women over four and a half years, 'the more the men lowered their cholesterol, the more likely they were to die of a heart attack.'

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The government conducted randomized controlled trials on tens of thousands of people to test if saturated fat and cholesterol caused heart disease. Some participants ate meat, butter, and cheese, while others consumed soy-filled cheese and margarine. These experiments could not prove that those eating meat, butter, and cheese died at higher rates from heart disease. In the Minnesota Coronary Survey of 9,000 men and women over four and a half years, researchers found that the more the men lowered their cholesterol, the more likely they were to die of a heart attack. This experiment wasn't published for sixteen years, and other experiments sat unpublished in the NIH basement. The American Heart Association ignored these clinical trials and is protecting their incorrect statements of the past.

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The speaker claims the American Heart Association fabricated evidence to support the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks, and that some scientists agree there is no evidence. They assert that when people cut out vegetable oils and eat healthier, their cholesterol may increase, leading doctors to recommend statins, which the speaker calls dangerous. The speaker advises listeners to become more knowledgeable than their doctors, who they believe are miseducated. They mention having a chapter in their book, "Dark Calories," about this topic.

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A flawed study from the 1950s, the "seven country study" by Hansel Keyes, is the origin of blaming fat and red meat for heart disease. Keyes' data showed a link between saturated fat and heart disease, which shaped nutritional policy for decades. However, Keyes cherry-picked countries for his study, omitting countries like France with high saturated fat intake and no increased heart disease risk. Keyes also left out key health factors like sugar intake, sedentary lifestyle, and smoking, which have huge effects on heart health. By ignoring these, he blamed fat and red meat as the villain. Despite cutting out eggs, red meat, and butter for decades, heart disease rates continue to skyrocket. The real enemies are unstable blood sugar, high intake of processed foods, and overall metabolic dysfunction. It's time to question the narrative and focus on what truly makes us healthy.

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Before 1950, heart disease was rare and obesity affected less than 10% of Americans. Procter and Gamble had a waste product, cottonseed oil, which they hydrogenated and named Crisco. They then gave the American Heart Association $1,700,000. Subsequently, butter became the enemy, and seed oils were considered heart healthy. Hospitals replaced butter with margarine, and home cooks swapped lard for vegetable oil. Within a generation, obesity, diabetes, and heart disease rates increased dramatically.

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The speaker claims the American Heart Association fabricated evidence that cholesterol causes heart attacks, and that this evidence is nonsensical. They assert that when people cut out vegetable oils and eat healthier, their cholesterol may rise, leading doctors to recommend statins, which the speaker calls dangerous. The speaker advises listeners to become more knowledgeable than their doctors, who they believe are miseducated. They mention a chapter in their book, "Dark Calories," that covers this topic.

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The speaker claims the American Heart Association fabricated evidence to support the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks, and that this evidence is nonsensical. They state that when people cut out vegetable oils and eat healthier, their cholesterol may increase, leading doctors to recommend statins, which they call dangerous. The speaker advises listeners to become more knowledgeable than their doctors, who they believe are miseducated. They mention a chapter in their book, "Dark Calories," that covers this topic.

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Speaker 0 argues that the American Heart Association used money to spend decades fabricating a huge pile of evidence to support the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks, and that this pile of evidence is nonsense. He notes that some very smart scientists who have sifted through it have come to the same conclusion, that there is nothing here and no evidence. He adds that when you cut out vegetable oils and eat healthier foods, very likely your total cholesterol levels will go up, and your doctor will tell you to stop following this diet that’s improving your health and transforming your life. He warns it may scare you into taking a statin drug, which he calls one of the most dangerous drugs out there. He mentions that there is a whole chapter in Dark Calories about this so you can fortify your knowledge, and that you have to know more than your doctor because doctors are miseducated.

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They suppressed the data for sixteen years. Two other large studies failed to show an association. Finally, the study trickled out in the medical literature. Nobody noticed it. Those on the low fat group had higher rates of heart attacks. Why? Maybe because when you avoid fat, you have to pound food with carbohydrates and often ultra processed carbohydrates stripped of fiber and chopped up at functions like sugar. We created a generation of children with low protein, high carbohydrates, sugar addiction, and on burdened with ultra processed foods. And what did we do as a medical field? Drugged them at scale. Those days are over. We are telling people the truth about food.

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These claims describe government randomized controlled trials on tens of thousands to test whether saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease. In mental hospitals they controlled diets, with one group on meat, butter, and cheese, and the other on soy-filled cheese and margarine instead of butter and soy-filled meat. In these randomized, rigorous experiments they could not show that the people eating the meat and the butter and cheese died at higher rates from heart disease. In the Minnesota Coronary Survey on 9,000 people over four and a half years, they found the lower the cholesterol, the more likely they were to die of a heart attack. What happened to all those experiments? They were not published for sixteen years. Other experiments I found sat in NIH basement, never published. Ignored, not included, just ignored or suppressed. The American Heart Association is ignoring those clinical trials, protecting their past statements.

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A lifelong rancher believed fat caused heart disease, but research revealed this was a lie. In 1911, there were no recorded heart disease cases in America. Procter and Gamble transformed cottonseed oil into Crisco, after which heart disease rates increased. In 1955, Eisenhower's heart attack caused panic. Ansel Keyes proposed the heart health hypothesis, studying seven countries and finding a correlation between saturated fat intake and heart disease. The American Heart Association endorsed it, and in 1961, dietary guidelines were released. Later, the full data from 22 countries showed zero correlation between saturated fat and heart disease.

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The podcast explores the misinformation surrounding dietary fat in America, arguing that the anti-fat craze has been detrimental to health. It begins by challenging the notion that salad dressing is unhealthy, pointing out that fat is essential for nutrient absorption from salads. The host, Johnny Cole Dickson, delves into the history of anti-fat messaging, tracing it back to early diet books and the demonization of fat during World War I. He highlights the discrepancy between America's anti-fat stance and its high dietary fat consumption compared to other countries like Austria and Belgium, which have lower rates of heart disease and obesity. The discussion uncovers a historical case of industry-funded research, where the Sugar Research Foundation paid Harvard researchers to downplay the link between sugar and heart disease, shifting the blame to saturated fat. This led to the promotion of polyunsaturated seed oils as a healthier alternative, despite their highly processed nature. The podcast challenges the calorie-centric view of weight management, arguing that it overlooks the inflammatory effects of processed foods. It emphasizes the importance of fat for brain function, cell structure, and nutrient absorption, advocating for the consumption of healthy fats like olive oil and avocado oil. The host cites a study demonstrating that full-fat salad dressings significantly enhance the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins and antioxidants from salads, compared to low-fat or fat-free dressings. The podcast concludes by urging listeners to make informed dietary choices, particularly by avoiding processed seed oils and making their own salad dressings with healthier fats. The overall message is a call to unlearn decades of misleading nutrition advice and prioritize whole, unprocessed foods.

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The Most Harmful Foods People Keep Eating! - Avoid This To Live Longer | Dr. Pradip Jamnadas

Guests: Pradip Jamnadas, Jeffrey Bland, Max Lugavere, Uma Naidoo, Datis Kharrazian

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Processed and ultra-processed foods are widespread, with ultra-processed foods engineered to promote addiction and overconsumption, contributing to around 11 million deaths globally each year. In India, vegetable oils are marketed as "heart healthy," but this claim is misleading due to the complex relationship between cholesterol and heart disease. The vilification of fats began with Ancel Keys' flawed studies, leading to a significant reduction in meat consumption and an increase in carbohydrate intake, which has correlated with rising rates of metabolic diseases. Saturated fats, found in natural foods like ghee, were deemed unhealthy, while polyunsaturated fats in vegetable oils were promoted as beneficial. However, these oils are pro-inflammatory, contributing to health issues, particularly in younger South Asians who have shifted from traditional fats to vegetable oils. High linoleic acid levels from these oils are linked to coronary artery disease, which is increasingly prevalent among younger populations. Patients with small, dense LDL particles are advised to eliminate vegetable oils and consume saturated fats, leading to improved health markers. Ghee is recommended for its health benefits, including better nutrient absorption and a higher smoke point. Reheating vegetable oils can produce harmful trans fats, and cooking practices should be adjusted to avoid this. Olive oil is generally healthier but should not be heated excessively. Young South Asians often experience hyperinsulinemia, linked to insulin resistance and excessive carbohydrate consumption, despite a high vegetarian population. The milling of grains has led to a loss of fiber, exacerbating health issues. Fiber is crucial for gut health, influencing insulin response and overall well-being. Fasting is presented as a beneficial practice, promoting metabolic flexibility and cellular rejuvenation through processes like autophagy. It can enhance brain function and energy levels, with gradual introduction recommended for those new to fasting. The discussion also highlights the impact of sugar on health, particularly through advanced glycation end-products (AGEs), which can lead to inflammation and chronic diseases. Continuous glucose monitoring is suggested as a tool for individuals to understand their blood sugar levels better. The conversation emphasizes the importance of personalized health approaches, particularly for women, who may respond differently to stress and dietary changes. The role of phytochemicals and polyphenols in promoting health and preventing chronic diseases is underscored, with a focus on traditional diets rich in these compounds. Himalayan Tartar buckwheat is introduced as a nutrient-dense food with immune-strengthening properties, having been largely lost in modern diets. The importance of sleep, mindful eating, and the impact of processed foods on mental health are discussed, with recommendations for incorporating whole foods and reducing sugar intake. The conversation concludes with a focus on the significance of maintaining a healthy metabolism, recognizing signs of metabolic dysfunction, and the role of dietary choices in managing anxiety and overall health. The importance of high-quality supplements, particularly fish oils and N-acetylcysteine, is emphasized for their protective effects against chronic diseases and inflammation.

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I was wrong about saturated fat.

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Ancel Keys popularized the diet-heart theory, asserting that saturated fat raises cholesterol and heart-disease risk. He launched the Seven Country Study, a large cross-national project that helped demonize fat. Observations from the study linked Finland’s high-fat diet to higher coronary heart disease, reinforcing the narrative. Keys was convinced and promoted his findings widely, even gracing Time Magazine with the message: fat is bad. First, the science is not so simple. The saturation of a fat cannot influence how much cholesterol is made, and there is no single mechanism proving this link. Vegetable oils carry plant sterols that compete for absorption in the intestines, which can lower blood cholesterol. LDL is not cholesterol itself but a delivery vehicle that carries cholesterol; cholesterol is the passenger. Minnesota Coronary Experiment, 1968: corn oil replaced butter, lowering saturated fat while veggie oil rose. The group had lower cholesterol but higher death risk as cholesterol fell—an association. Later analyses show lower LDL correlates with reduced vascular risk, and the LDL environment matters; sugar, not fat, may drive risk. The speaker concedes Keys offered an oversimplified theory, and says, 'even still, I was wrong.'