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We used to have a sophisticated biological weapons program from World War 2 to the sixties, which ended in 1969. Many records of the program were destroyed, but some are resurfacing. Our offensive weapons program was massive and advanced, but not well-known by most people.

Today, almost any country can create a powerful biological weapon in a couple of months using current technology.

The discussion centers on gain-of-function (GoF) research, its regulation, and the motivations behind it. The first speaker notes the administration’s goal to end GoF research and asks where that stands. The second speaker says progress has been made, and the White House is working on a formal policy. He then defines the issue in stages: what GoF research is, why someone would do it, and how to regulate it to prevent dangerous projects that could catastrophically harm human populations. He clarifies that GoF research is not inherently bad, but dangerous GoF research is. He gives an insulin example: creating bacteria to produce insulin is a legitimate GoF that benefits diabetics. In contrast, taking a virus from bat caves, bringing it to a lab in a densely populated city with weak biosafety, and manipulating it to be more transmissible among humans is a dangerous GoF that should not be supported. The administration’s policy aims to prevent such dangerous work entirely, and the President signed an executive order in April or May endorsing this policy. Next, he discusses implementation: how to create incentives to ensure this research does not recur. He explains that the utopian idea behind such research was to prevent all pandemics by collecting viruses from wild places, testing their potential to infect humans by increasing their pathogenicity, and then preparing countermeasures in advance (vaccines, antivirals) and stockpiling them, even though those countermeasures would not have been tested against humans yet. If a virus did leap to humans, the foreseen countermeasures might prove ineffective because evolution is unpredictable. This “triage” approach—identifying pathogens most likely to leap and preemptively preparing against them—was the rationale for dangerous GoF work, a rationale he characterizes as flawed. He notes that many scientists considered this an effort to do bioweapons research under the guise of safety and defense. The work is dual-use. The U.S. is a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention and does not conduct offensive bio-weapons research, but other countries might. The discussion highlights that the GoF research discussed during the pandemic can backfire and may not align with true biodefense, since countermeasures might not match whatever pathogen actually emerges. The speaker concludes that this agenda—pursuing GoF to prevent pandemics—has drawn substantial support from parts of the Western world and other countries for about two and a half decades, but he implies it is not deserving of continuation.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens. As Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. To protect people worldwide, these labs must be shut down immediately, and their pathogens destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration should work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire near these labs until they're secured and the pathogens are destroyed. The US funds around 300 biolabs globally, some engaging in risky gain-of-function research, similar to the Wuhan lab. These labs should have been shut down two years ago. This isn't a partisan issue; the administration and Congress must act now for global health and well-being.

President Richard Nixon announced in 1969 that the United States would renounce the use of deadly biological weapons, but few Americans knew that the country had been operating a secret bioweapons program for over 25 years. Born out of fear during World War II, the program conducted extensive research and experiments, even using human subjects. The British and Japanese also had their own bioweapons programs, with the Japanese conducting horrific experiments on thousands of people. The US program, fueled by the Cold War, conducted tests on American cities and human subjects, proving the feasibility of biological warfare. However, concerns over the uncontrollable nature of these weapons and the mounting political pressure led to the program's eventual end in 1969.

Four days ago, I wouldn't have believed the Biden administration was funding secret biolabs in Ukraine, but Under Secretary of State Nuland confirmed their existence during a Senate hearing. Despite fact-checks dismissing it as Russian disinformation, these labs are real, and Nuland expressed concern about their contents falling into Russian hands. The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the labs were developing military biological programs with US funding, possibly involving deadly pathogens like plague and anthrax. The US embassy in Ukraine has a web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists have worked on a whole bunch of different experiments like this. The US government is downplaying the situation, with the Pentagon calling Russian accusations "absurd."

You don't need a secret lab or a massive complex to create bioweapons. Unlike nuclear weapons, biological weapons can be developed discreetly, blending in with legitimate activities like vaccine production. This dual-use nature makes it difficult to detect a biological weapons program.

The federal government ended gain of function research funding, which the US military and intelligence agencies engaged in beginning in 1947. By 1969, the CIA claimed they could kill the entire US population for 29¢ a person. President Nixon announced a unilateral end to dual use research and persuaded over 80 countries to sign the bioweapons charter in 1973, ending gain of function research globally until 2002. After the anthrax attacks, the Patriot Act included a provision stating that US Federal Officials who violated the bioweapons charter and Geneva Convention could not be prosecuted. This relaunched a bioweapons arms race driven by gain of function research. In 2014, three bugs escaped from US labs, leading President Obama to place a moratorium on future use, and much of the research was moved offshore to the Wuhan Lab.

We need to discuss bioweapons. I've spent over two years researching them for a book and the technology to develop these microbes is rapidly advancing. Hundreds of millions have been invested in ethnically targeted microbes, and China is doing the same. There's an argument that COVID-19 was ethnically targeted, disproportionately impacting certain races. The genetic structure of ACE2 receptors varies among races, making some more immune than others. COVID-19 seems to target Caucasians and Black people, while Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese individuals appear more immune. Whether this was deliberate is unknown, but research shows the racial and ethnic impact differential. China and the U.S. are developing ethnic bioweapons, which explains those labs in Ukraine that collect Russian and Chinese DNA for targeting purposes.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens. Given the ongoing war, these facilities are at risk of being compromised, potentially leading to the spread of deadly pathogens across Europe and beyond. To protect global health, these labs must be shut down immediately, and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these labs until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds approximately 300 biolabs worldwide that are also engaged in similar research.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens in an active war zone. The risk of these labs being compromised is high, which could lead to the spread of deadly pathogens across Europe and the world. To protect global health, these labs should be shut down immediately, and their pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these facilities until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds around 300 biolabs worldwide engaged in similar risky research. Given the potential dangers, these labs should have been closed two years ago. This issue transcends partisan politics; immediate action is necessary for the safety of all people.

The US is preparing for a new pandemic by searching for virus mutations. They may use defensive technologies offensively and create biological crises for global control.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded bio labs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens, according to the US government. Because Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. If breached, these pathogens could spread throughout Europe, the United States, and the rest of the world, causing suffering and death. To protect people, these labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens they hold need to be destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration needs to work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire for military action near these labs until they are secured and the pathogens destroyed. The US funds around 300 bio labs around the world.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded bio labs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens. Because Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised, releasing deadly pathogens that know no borders. If breached, these pathogens could spread throughout Europe, the United States, and the rest of the world, causing suffering and death. To protect people, these labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens they hold need to be destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration needs to work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire for military action near these labs until they are secured and the pathogens are destroyed. The US also funds around 300 bio labs around the world.

Speaker 0 argues that parasites have become a problem because they have been weaponized. They reference a Nobel Prize-winning finding showing that a certain parasite could produce stomach cancer in rats, and that a different parasite produced this effect in Japan. They note these results only worked in animals that ate a high-sugar diet or were vaccinated, not in healthy animals. They then connect this to twentieth-century American policy: vaccination began with troops during World War I and continued in the military, then expanded to schoolchildren after World War II. The speaker predicts that vaccines at school would eventually affect broader segments of the population, not just children, and claims that vaccines have the effect of making people more susceptible to parasites, including those that cause cancer, not just toxoplasmosis. Regarding diet, the speaker mentions the food pyramid of the twentieth century, pointing out that the bottom consisted of carbohydrates, implying a link to susceptibility. The speaker then discusses bioweapons policy: in 1971, Nixon declared an end to the United States bioweapons offensive program and signed a treaty (they mention a 1978 figure, implying a multinational agreement). They claim that, despite this treaty, the Soviet Union and others violated it, and that perhaps everyone violated it. They assert that, at the same time the treaty was signed, Fort Detrick was converted from a bioweapons lab to be part of the National Cancer Institute. They compare this to Nazi Germany, stating that they hid bioweapons under cancer research, and claim that the United States did something similar. The transcription ends with emphatic agreement.

I believe that it is possible that scientific research sponsored in part by the NIH but also lots of other entities including the Chinese government may have been the cause of the pandemic. There's a lot of people who just have fights over this. But I will say is that the kinds of biological exercises people did in order to try to prevent a pandemic, go find viruses in weird bat caves, bring them into city centers, and then augment their capacity to infect humans, The reason why they did that was I think they were arguing that we needed to do that in order to prepare just in case a pandemic happens. But think no matter what you believe about whether the cause of the pandemic was this kind of research, I think everyone can agree that that kind of research is potentially very dangerous.

The Chinese and us are both developing ethnic bioweapons, with labs in Ukraine collecting Russian and Chinese DNA to target people by race.

There are 25 to 30 U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens. These labs could easily be compromised due to the ongoing war in the region, potentially releasing deadly pathogens that could spread worldwide. To protect people, these labs should be shut down immediately and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden Harris administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire in the vicinity of these labs. Additionally, the U.S. funds around 300 biolabs worldwide, engaging in risky research similar to the Wuhan lab. These labs should have been closed two years ago. It is crucial for the administration and Congress to take action for the well-being of everyone.

"So I believe that it is possible that scientific research sponsored in part by the NIH but also lots of other entities including the Chinese government may have been the cause of the pandemic." "the kinds of biological exercises people did in order to try to prevent a pandemic, go find viruses in weird bat caves, bring them into city centers, and then augment their capacity to infect humans," "The reason why they did that was I think they were arguing that we needed to do that in order to prepare just in case a pandemic happens." "But think no matter what you believe about whether the cause of the pandemic was this kind of research, I think everyone can agree that that kind of research is potentially very dangerous."

We had a study on highway threats that was classified but got denied last minute because it wouldn't pass the New York Times test. Public affairs thought it could be misinterpreted as offensive bioweapons work. Despite its potential to help biosecurity, it was shelved. Most government work, even classified, is transparent.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded bio labs in Ukraine researching dangerous pathogens. Because Ukraine is an active war zone, these labs could be compromised and release deadly pathogens that know no borders. If breached, these pathogens will spread throughout Europe, the United States, and the rest of the world, causing suffering and death. To protect people, these labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens they hold need to be destroyed. The Biden-Harris administration needs to work with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to implement a ceasefire until the labs are secured and the pathogens destroyed. The US funds around 300 bio labs around the world engaging in dangerous research, including gain of function. These labs should have been shut down two years ago. The administration and congress need to act now for the health and well-being of every person on this planet.

There are 25 to 30 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine conducting research on dangerous pathogens amid an active war. These facilities are at risk of being compromised, potentially leading to the spread of deadly pathogens worldwide, similar to COVID-19. To protect global health, these labs must be shut down immediately, and the pathogens destroyed. The Biden administration should collaborate with Russia, Ukraine, NATO, and the UN to establish a ceasefire around these labs until they are secured. Additionally, the US funds around 300 biolabs globally engaged in risky research. Given the vulnerabilities of these labs, they should have been shut down two years ago. This issue transcends partisan politics; immediate action is necessary for the safety of all people.

- Speaker 0 describes a doctrine where an agent or pathogen works best as a binary weapon if followed by mass exposure with vaccines, noting the insistence on gene transfection technologies to create a peptide with a prion-catalyzing epitope and pointing out that lipid nanoparticles are highly labile and inflammatory, constituting a combination of chemical and biological warfare. - Speaker 0 adds that if this was a weapon release, it may be done and now data will reveal its effects, and expresses doubt about how much trust can be placed in normal scientific methods and institutions to relay data to the public, inviting Speaker 1’s thoughts. - Speaker 1 (Stephanie) says the discussion has been an incredible and difficult ride since things began unfolding, with questions about natural versus lab-based origins, vaccine development versus biowarfare, and concerns about funding by China for bioweapons, acknowledging the impossibility of definitively answering many questions. - Speaker 0 agrees that ambiguity is the point and calls it the strength of the weapon. - Speaker 1 asks why someone would inject something to inflict a bioweapon on the entire population, suggesting population control as a possible motivation. - Speaker 0 notes the need to consider literature from top transnational power structures and corporations, asserting that it is not hidden. - Speaker 1 recalls prior concerns about population-control vaccines, referencing reports about vaccines used in Argentina and Africa that allegedly caused infertility, describing an example where a vaccine given to teenage girls could lead to antibody development to a fetus, making infertility less detectable over time. She mentions a memory of a “benign disease” vaccination program in Argentina that led people to suspect infertility, and notes that it could be a stealth method. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the idea that vaccines may have had effects on fertility and reference terms like human chorionic something, with Speaker 1 acknowledging possible occurrences in India as well as Africa and Argentina. - Speaker 0 refers to bioaccumulation seen in reproductive organs and cites pharmacokinetic studies beginning in Japan, noting the vaccine’s presence in the placenta and testes and recalling reports of harmful effects on male reproductive organs. - Speaker 0 mentions Anna Burkhart’s data as dark regarding spike protein expression in reproductive organs found in autopsies, while acknowledging uncertainty about how much weight to attribute to that data, but maintaining that biowarfare cannot be dismissed. - The discussion returns to the mechanism of biowarfare being distinct from a pathogen, describing a scenario where exposure leads to effects years later due to the disease mechanism being induced, rather than immediate pathogen-driven illness.

Ralph Barrick's collaboration with Ecohealth Alliance raises concerns about the transfer of advanced biotechnology to a lab controlled by the CCP, known for its interest in using bioweapons against the US. The involvement of Dr. Anthony Fauci and the CDC in bioweapons defense, tied to the Department of Defense (DoD), is a topic that remains unaddressed. Despite facing increased censorship and attacks for discussing this issue, the speaker vows to continue speaking out. While the speaker suspects a flawed intelligence operation, they lack evidence to support this claim at present.

Speaker 1 states that documents were signed to end federal funding and private corporation control of gain of function studies, which he claims the US military and intelligence agencies began in 1947. He says that by 1969, the CIA claimed they could kill the entire US population for 29¢ a person. According to Speaker 1, President Nixon ended this research and persuaded over 80 countries to sign the bioweapons charter in 1973, but US federal officials who violate it cannot be prosecuted. Speaker 1 claims that gain of function research relaunched a bioweapons arms race and that in 2014, three bugs escaped from US labs, leading President Obama to declare a moratorium that moved research offshore to the Wuhan Lab. He asserts that China, Russia, Iran, and other countries are developing devastating weapons using AI and CRISPR technologies. He says that gain-of-function research has never produced anything good, and commends President Trump for ending US bioweapons research.