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The speaker mentions that a former head of military intelligence in Israel was friendly with Epstein. They point out that there is no evidence provided to support the claim that Israel was involved in running Epstein. They mention that Maxwell worked for Israel and Epstein worked for Maxwell, and that Epstein was introduced to Maxwell's daughter and Israeli intelligence.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and "was never a big factor." The speaker believes the case is "pretty boring stuff" and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. The speaker suggests that "only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like that going." They state that if there's credible information, "let them have it." The speaker then pivots to a question about AI.

There is disbelief that influential people could be involved in an island where they engage in sex with underage individuals. The speaker mentions Jeffrey Epstein, who went to jail for this crime but still had connections with people like Bill Gates. Epstein later died under suspicious circumstances, and no one was held accountable. Ghislaine Maxwell, who was involved in this illegal activity, was arrested and convicted, but the list of people involved was not released. The speaker expresses frustration, stating that this kind of injustice shouldn't happen in the United States, regardless of the individuals' power.

The speaker asserts that the effort to release the Epstein files came directly from President Trump. They acknowledge that many people may have a hard time with this claim, but state that it is the truth. The speaker also says that Trump fought the hardest to stop these files from being released.

The speaker states they had an interview with Virginia Roberts three years ago, but it was not aired. They were initially told the story was "stupid" because no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. The palace threatened them after finding out about Roberts' allegations regarding Prince Andrew. They feared losing access to interviews with Kate and Will, which further suppressed the story. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. The speaker says Roberts had pictures and was in hiding for twelve years. The speaker claims they convinced her to come out and talk, and that they had information implicating Clinton, among others. They express frustration that the story is only now coming out. They also mention other women backing up Roberts' claims and Brad Edwards' assertion three years ago that Epstein was the most prolific pedophile in the country.

Speaker 0 discusses emails suggesting Bill Gates had additional affairs, tried to obtain medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection, and planned to give the medicine without the recipient knowing; his representative says all of this is false. It is not on you to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. The question posed is about the speaker’s dominant emotion when reading these news articles with these details. Speaker 1 answers: Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I’m able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my god, how did they, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it’s just sadness. Sadness for, you know, I’ve left, I had to, I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the, I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it’s just sad. That’s the truth. Right? And it’s kind of like, at least for me, I’ve been able to move on in life.

The speaker was angry about the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago. The speaker says the House Manager texted about the FBI being outside the house and having access to the speaker's bedroom, closets, office, and personal items. The speaker also says the FBI searched Barron's room. The speaker was surprised by the invasion of privacy and the way it was done. Upon returning to the house, the speaker saw unpleasant things that nobody wants to see. The speaker is angry that people went through their stuff.

The speaker defends himself against allegations and claims to have nothing to hide. He offers to release all evidence to prove his innocence. The interviewer brings up the association with Jeffrey Epstein, to which the speaker explains that he and his wife had massages at Epstein's house but denies any wrongdoing. He mentions that many prominent individuals also had massages there and that his friendship with Epstein was purely academic. The speaker argues that having a massage does not make him guilty and that the person making the allegations has admitted to possible mistaken identification. He concludes by stating that he and his wife are innocent.

The speaker defends himself against allegations and claims to have nothing to hide. He offers to release all evidence to prove his innocence. The interviewer brings up the association with Jeffrey Epstein, to which the speaker explains that he and his wife had massages at Epstein's house, but denies any wrongdoing. He mentions that many prominent individuals also had massages there and that his friendship with Epstein was purely academic. The speaker argues that having a massage does not make him guilty and that the person accusing him has admitted to possible mistaken identification. He asserts his innocence and states that neither he nor his wife are guilty.

Speaker 0 opens by saying he tries to be as transparent as possible and offers to share what the text in court filings was about. Speaker 1 asks to know, and Speaker 0 begins to explain. Speaker 0 reflects on his past views: he has no incentive to lie, he runs a business with his college roommate, and he supported the Iraq War vehemently, supported the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett (calling it a huge mistake and that it wasn’t what he thought), and he supports John Roberts. He says the list of “dumb things” he supported is long, and he has spent the last twenty-two years trying to atone for his support for the Iraq War. Speaker 1 acknowledges appreciation for that, and Speaker 0 continues. He says he isn’t seeking affirmation but explains the text in question concerns a discussion with a producer about election integrity. He describes a January post-election conversation with someone at the White House after Trump claimed the election was stolen. He says he was willing to believe allegations and asked for examples. The White House regional contact offered seven or eight dead people who voted, asserting they could be proven because death certificates and obituaries showed they voted and were on voter rolls. He states he did not claim “slam dunk” proof and insists he does not trust campaigns or campaign consultants, but he believed the claim was verifiable. Speaker 0 recounts going on air with the claim that “seven or ten dead people voted” and listing the names to show the evidence. He says, within about twenty-five minutes, some of the deceased people contacted CNN to say they were not dead, and CNN exposed that he had made a colossal error. He emphasizes that there is nothing he hates more than being wrong and humiliated, and that he should have checked whether someone had died; he acknowledges not checking carefully. Speaker 1 asks why he didn’t say these things on Fox News earlier. Speaker 0 says he did the next day. Speaker 1 contends he did not, and asks for the tape. Speaker 0 asserts he went on air the next day and admits he was completely wrong, blaming the Trump campaign for taking their word and also blaming the staffer who provided the information; he says he is still mad at that person. Speaker 1 challenges ownership of the situation and asks about the influence and the value of his career, implying he holds substantial influence with a top-rated show. They clash over sincerity and the magnitude of his earnings. Speaker 0 denies alignment with the accusation of insincerity, but Speaker 1 remains skeptical and asserts a belief that his sincerity is in question and that his views may be financially motivated. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 telling Speaker 1 to stop and declaring they’re done, as Speaker 1 pushes back about the immense wealth and status, prompting Speaker 0 to end the exchange abruptly.

The speaker is unsure why their supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and was never a big factor. The speaker believes the credible information has been given. They contrast the Epstein case with the "Mueller witch hunt" and the Steele dossier, which they claim was all fake. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. They suggest that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep it going. They state that if there is any credible information, it should be released.

Together because they are completely interlinked. Epstein is linked with Howard Lutnick, our commerce secretary whose firm manages the treasuries that back tether, the largest stable coin. And Brock Pierce, who was Epstein's crypto adviser, who was a cofounder of Tether and was the head of the Bitcoin Foundation before it collapsed, and then MIT took over the developers is right in the middle of this. So in essence, the endgame of this is what they have figured out as a way to have a backdoor CBDC where they specifically profit. I'm starting to call this now the creature from Epstein's Island because in the end, what are we getting out of this? We have something called USAT, which is the new official stable coin that complies with the genius act. So we have a situation where it's a digital token backed by fiat, backed by treasuries that can be programmed, tracked, and censored. And the biggest financial beneficiary is Howard Lutnick's firm. They managed to create so think about it this way. He's managed to create a central bank digital currency where only one firm profits from all of the fees for managing the treasuries. This is the biggest financial heist probably in human history. And it is connected directly to Epstein and Brock Pierce and the hijacking of Bitcoin. That's how they're linked. Now, do I think were they playing five d chess and this is what they thought was gonna happen? I don't know. May be if so, it's very clever or were they opportunistic about it? But make no mistake about it. These government regulated stablecoins are backdoor CBDCs in not in the sense that they're issued by the central bank, but in the sense that they are controlled and surveilled by the government and tracked by the government, which after all is the thing that people are worried about with CBDCs. The concern isn't really so much about the central bank. Of course, the central bank is complete unnecessary third party, but financial surveillance comes from Congress. All of the bank secrecy laws, all of the tracking and the suspicious activity reports, this is Congress. This is not the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve does not initiate any of that. So this is in many respects worse than the creature from Jackal Island. This is worse than the creation of the Federal Reserve itself because what it's done is created a digital dollar where one political member of a cabinet, his family and his company is the biggest single beneficiary. One of the things that came out of the Epstein file is Lutnick's claim that he was disgusted by Epstein and had nothing to do with him after 2006. The emails show Lutnick emailing Epstein coordinating to visit Epstein on Epstein's Island with his yacht and with his family. There's another email showing Lutnick contributing $50,000 to an event that Epstein was running. Lutnick flat out lied, and I will have to check whether that was under oath about his relationship and association with Epstein. He was a next door neighbor of Epstein and bought his house from Epstein. The connections here are overwhelming. It's so much data to map that I'm using AI to start making initial connections, then humans correct. How do these pieces fit from a timetable perspective? This is game changing. Epstein's hijacking of Bitcoin has not been widely acknowledged, and some Bitcoin Maxis resist this information. I urge people to do their own research, not to rely on spin. Look into Epstein's emails via Jmail and other sources. The information is out there, including the Epstein files, and the article I wrote for Brownstone at brownstone.org with screenshots of emails. Do your research. Don't accept a single influencer's take. Epstein literally funded changing the Bitcoin protocol to make it digital gold, yet there is no indication he actually held Bitcoin. This warrants investigation. Roger Ver, once a prominent Bitcoin advocate, has described hijacking in his own book, and his later treatment suggests suppression. The broader point is that there are deeply interwoven connections among Epstein, Lutnick, Pierce, Tether, and the Bitcoin ecosystem, with implications for who profits and how governance and surveillance could unfold.

In 2016, the speaker voted for Hillary Clinton and was confused and outraged by Trump's victory. The speaker initially condemned Trump for mocking a reporter's disability. However, the speaker now believes the media intentionally misleads the public to control their thinking. The speaker claims the media exploits emotions, citing a Time magazine cover of a child who was never separated from her mother. They allege the media falsely reported Trump called all immigrants animals, omitting his reference to MS-13 gang members. The speaker accuses the media of lying about Brett Kavanaugh, children in cages, and the Walk Away movement. They state the media was wrong about the election outcome, the Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, and Russian collusion.

Speaker 0 stopped representing Epstein after the deal was made and hasn't seen him in years. Introduced to Epstein by Lady Rothschild, Speaker 0 had an academic relationship with him, attending conferences and seminars. Once they learned about Epstein's other life, all social relationships ended. Speaker 0 became Epstein's lawyer and defended him, proud of representing controversial people. Some criticize the deal, but Speaker 0 defends trying to get the best deal possible. Speaker 0 denies ever meeting the woman who made allegations against Epstein, calling it a complete lie. Speaker 1 appreciates Speaker 0 joining to discuss the explosive story and the horrific allegations against Epstein.

Speaker 0 accuses the man of lying, noting he claims he only ever met him once while they had lived next to him for twenty-some years. Speaker 1 explains that, with his wife present, they apologized, left, and decided they will never be in the room with that disgusting person again—social, business, or philanthropy—because that guy was there. Speaker 0 adds that it’s a disgrace how this guy has a job today, calling him a proven liar advising the president of the United States every day, and says they’re done with these people.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

The transcript centers on an email from Howard Lutnick to Jeffrey Epstein and the surrounding reaction to Epstein’s public notoriety. The message indicates travel plans: Lutnick asks Epstein where he is located and what the exact location for Lutnick’s captain is, noting that they are landing in Saint Thomas early Saturday afternoon and plan to head to Saint Bart’s/Anguilla on Monday, with a dinner proposed for Sunday evening. Lutnick mentions traveling with “another couple, Michael and Mary Lerman,” and states that “each of us has four children.” The ages of the children are listed in the email as “two 16s, two 14s, a 13, a 12, an 11, and a seven year old.” The speaker points out that this is “forty years after Jeffrey Epstein was convicted.” Following the email, the speakers express strong, unambiguous condemnation of Epstein and the surrounding circumstances. Speaker 1 asserts, “How this guy has a job today is a disgrace. That is There is no room That is disgusting. Fire. Fire. I'm done with these fucking people. Fire this guy right now. What is your excuse?” They emphasize a history of alleged deceit, with one speaker stating, “He’s a liar. Neighbors with this dude. Claims he only ever met him once. Lived next to him for twenty some years. That's crazy. Proven liar advising the president of The United States every fucking day.” The emotional tone escalates, with both speakers declaring, “I'm so done with these people. Yeah. That is so That is done with these That is absolutely abhorrent. I'm so fucking done with these people.” They mention tax-related concerns, noting, “and we gotta I gotta fucking file taxes in a couple weeks.” The dialogue then questions accountability and the persistence of Epstein’s influence in high-level circles: “What is the conversation when he's like, hey, I'm about to email Jeff back. You got you're four. What are their ages? I gotta what are their ages? Like, I get like, what a fucking” (truncated in the transcript). Overall, the excerpt juxtaposes a routine social planning email involving Epstein with a contemporaneous, vehement condemnation of Epstein’s legacy and ongoing professional influence, highlighting the contrast between personal arrangements and public outrage.

The speaker claims they had Virginia Roberts' allegations about Prince Andrew, including pictures, but the palace threatened the network, fearing they wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will, so the story was quashed. The speaker states Alan was implicated because of the planes. They say they convinced Roberts to come out of hiding after 12 years. The speaker says the story included Clinton and that they tried for 3 years to get it on the air. The speaker expresses anger that the story is now coming out as new revelations, saying they "had it all." They quote Brad Edwards, the attorney, who said 3 years ago that Jeffrey Epstein would be realized as the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known. The speaker believes Epstein was killed because he made his living blackmailing people. They state there were a lot of powerful men on those planes, visiting the island, and in that apartment.

The speaker discusses the hacking of the DNC and mentions someone named Seth who allegedly provided information. However, the speaker does not reveal their sources. They believe that the files were not hacked by Russia but rather leaked from within the building. The speaker mentions Bill Binney, a former NSA officer, who supposedly demonstrated this. They also mention that lies about the hacking led to tensions with Russia. The speaker admits to initially dismissing the conspiracy theories surrounding the issue but later realized the truth. They express frustration with the lack of transparency and understanding surrounding certain actions and question the motives behind them.

The speaker claims to have compiled an Epstein client list using victims' testimonies, internal emails, court documents, settlements, financial records, and staff testimony, not a single "black book." This list was released publicly in 2019 but received little attention due to the speaker's prior cancellation for opposing Israel. The speaker asserts that Epstein was working for a foreign government, compromising powerful Americans. Contrary to popular belief, people *have* been prosecuted and companies have paid large settlements related to Epstein, but it's not publicized. Jean Luc Brunel, allegedly the number three man in the Epstein ring, was arrested but died in prison. The speaker believes the truth about Epstein is being ignored, similar to 9/11 conspiracy theories. They state that videos from Epstein's properties exist and that many pedophiles and human traffickers are being arrested, but the media is silent. The speaker shares pages from the list and urges someone with media reach to discuss the issue.

When questioning the events of January 6th, it became clear that there were lies being told. The speaker believes the media should be ashamed for covering up these lies. They argue that the actions of certain individuals, like Jacob Chansley, were not insurrectionist and should not have resulted in imprisonment. The speaker expresses anger at the lack of remorse shown by those responsible for the false narrative surrounding January 6th.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor. The speaker believes credible information has been given and references the Mueller investigation and steel dossier as examples of fake information. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed, suggesting only bad people and fake news want to keep it going. The speaker states that if there is credible information, it should be released. The speaker is then asked a question about AI.

The speaker denies that a picture shows someone with Epstein and Maxwell, claiming it's "not even him" and "doesn't even look like him." They assert the face is shorter and the chin is longer, suggesting it's "just some other guy." The speaker questions the nature of the relationship depicted. They mention someone ran away and accused them of not doing research about Mark Carney, and that his dog defecated without the waste being cleaned up.

Bill's connection to Jeffrey Epstein was one of many factors in our divorce. I met Epstein once and found him abhorrent. I shared my feelings with Bill, but his relationship with Epstein is for him to explain. My heart goes out to the young women affected by Epstein.

Bill's connection with Jeffrey Epstein was one of the many factors that contributed to the divorce. The speaker expressed their disapproval of Bill's meetings with Epstein and even met him once, regretting it immediately. They described Epstein as an evil person and empathized with the young women who suffered because of him. Despite sharing their feelings with Bill, he continued to spend time with Epstein. The speaker believes that any questions about Bill's relationship with Epstein should be directed to Bill himself.