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The conversation centers on a shared focus on “deep state traders” and a distrust of the current political establishment. Speaker 0 insists that they are “focused on higher IQ conversations here” and that they want to “go after the deep state traders,” asking who is paying them and noting that the “Washington field office is one block away” from their location, implying proximity to the FBI in Washington, D.C. The exchange riffs on anti-establishment themes, with Speaker 1 adding that they have “gone dragged into forever wars on behalf of Israel,” questioning why the U.S. has been involved for “generations and decades” and asserting that Americans “will not allow” it, calling for white Christians to unite around “America First, America Only” and that there can be “competing interests.” The dialogue shifts to support for domestic groups and figures perceived as aligned with their cause. Speaker 0 says their priority is to gain reinforcements and to “pardon all the oath keepers.” Speaker 1 references the idea of aiding “the J sixers,” while Speaker 0 states they are focused on “the destruction of the world” and asks why they aren’t advocating for those groups. The conversation then explicitly identifies a racialized fear about the future, with Speaker 1 stating that “your children are gonna be black and Muslim,” and “your children’s children are gonna be black and Muslim,” attributing this not to genetic or demographic inevitability but to “the weak, feckless men that are allowing APAC to buy out our politicians and open up our borders.” Speaker 0 counters by describing “weak, tackless toxic, feckless men” in the country and reiterates that their priority is to “go after the traitors based on their actions and actions alone,” stressing that they have a “laundry list” of targets and that they do not care about appearances or which hair follicles or eye colors these people have. The two converge on the idea of targeting treasonous individuals, with Speaker 0 insisting that the focus is on those who have committed treason and that those who fund them come from all stripes. The overall thrust is an uncompromising approach to identifying and pursuing perceived traitors, tying together anti-war, nationalist, and white-identity rhetoric, while calling for pardons for controversial domestic groups and framing the fight as one against treason and influence from abroad.

The speaker argues that when a politician claims support, they are really loyal to a vast international banking dynasty—a Masonic cult with no loyalty to the people whatsoever. This system will offer them gold or lead, and to thrive within it, they must play by its rules. It is not a nation, but the fatherland of a global corporate mafia who rule from behind the veil, the deep state. Their primary jobs are to keep you divided by playing into the left and right paradigm while ensuring that the foreign conquest continues. War is something that they will always agree upon. In other words, you are being used to facilitate and fund their global conquest of other countries. Wars are cleverly marketed and justified by their bought and paid for politicians and their complicit media machine. They fund small terrorist proxy forces which are then attributed to their target nations. Therefore, we have no choice but to invade and install one of our own puppet leaders. And thus now the nation and its riches belong to them. Meanwhile, you’re all distracted, screaming at your own countrymen because they have a different opinion to you so they can ultimately weaken your society and conquer you too. You see divided, are weak, but together, you are strong. The solution is to pull your heads out of your asses, put aside your differences, and realize that you’re all being played, and identify the real threat, the puppet masters who keep you divided.

There is basically one deep state party, exemplified by figures like Victoria Nuland, who has influenced foreign policy across administrations for 30 years. This party's policies have remained consistent regardless of whether a Republican or Democrat is in office. Republicans and Democrats are like Tweedledee and Tweedledum, with the possible exception of former President Trump, who vowed to beat back the deep state but failed. The deep state refers to the administrative state, composed of bureaucrats in institutions like the Pentagon and State Department, who have a vested interest in pursuing a particular foreign policy. Putin noted that presidents enter office with ideas, but "men in dark suits and blue ties" explain the way the world is, and the ideas disappear. This entrenched foreign policy has been in place for decades, and even Trump hired deep state figures like John Bolton, who admitted to circumventing Trump's wishes.

The other side is complaining that nobody voted for Elon or any of my cabinet nominees. They say people are dying because of budget cuts and even allege illegal activity. But frankly, I don't care. If they're complaining, we must be over the target and doing something right. We're simply trying to restore the will of the people through the President. What we've found is a vast, unelected federal bureaucracy that is against the President and the cabinet. In DC, it's 92% Kamala. How can we live in a democracy if the President's will, representing the people, isn't implemented? We're witnessing the bureaucracy thrashing as we try to restore democracy and the will of the people.

The term "unelected" used by Democrats is misleading. Donald Trump was elected in a landslide, and his staff, including the national security adviser and chief of staff, serve at his pleasure. They are implementing the agenda chosen by the American people. The real unelected power lies within the bureaucracy, such as USAID, the FBI, and the CIA, which have acted against Trump. President Trump is working to restore democracy by asserting control over the federal bureaucracy. He is the only individual elected by the entire nation to carry out the agenda that reflects the voters' wishes, while other officials are elected at local or state levels. Ultimately, the president is in charge of the federal executive branch.

Who actually runs the government? It's often not the elected officials we think. Recent events, like Biden's debate with Trump, reveal that decision-making power lies with a group of elite Democrats and figures in the military-industrial complex, not with Biden or Harris. This cabal includes influential individuals like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who benefit from ongoing conflicts. The administrative and national security states gain authority during crises, making it difficult for citizens to hold leaders accountable. Our democracy, meant to be of, by, and for the people, struggles when elected representatives aren't the true decision-makers. While the dynamics have shifted over time, the upcoming election presents an opportunity to reset this situation.

Many in the media failed to cover Joe Biden's mental state and misunderstand Elon Musk's role. A president, elected by all Americans, is unique. The Constitution vests executive power in this single president. They appoint staff to implement the democratic will. The real threat to democracy is the unelected bureaucracy of tenured civil servants who defy the will of the American people. For example, when Americans vote for FBI reform, or to end racist DEI policies, these bureaucrats resist change. President Trump is removing those defying democracy by not implementing lawful orders, which represent the will of the American people.

One speaker believes there are two camps: one that views the U.S. as the world's policeman and another focused on domestic problems. One speaker believes the Biden administration has made decisions about the border, including flying people in using an app, which they find insane. They suggest a motivation for this is cheap labor, while acknowledging that some find the new Haitian workers in Springfield, Ohio, to be hard workers. However, they also claim this incentivized effort to move people into the country illegally will bring in gang members, cartel members, and terrorists, some of whom have already been arrested. Another speaker believes both Trump and Kamala Harris will have to act on the border, as the current situation is unsustainable. One speaker fears the goal is to give these immigrants a clear path to citizenship to buy their vote. They claim Democrats are incentivizing them with benefits like EBT cards and housing, which they are not giving to veterans and poor people in this country. They believe that if these people are given the opportunity to vote, especially in swing states, they will vote for the party that brought them to America.

The deep state consists of elites in Washington, D.C., who believe they know better than the American people. The current presidency is seen as ineffective, with no successful policies from Biden or Harris. After working at the Pentagon post-Trump, it's clear that there is no real leadership in the country. Secretary Austin and Mark Milley should face treason charges for their handling of the Afghan withdrawal, which was disastrous. The situation at the border is a humanitarian crisis, with children suffering while the president is on vacation in Delaware. There is a strong desire for Trump to return to office, as he is viewed as the only one capable of restoring order.

Donald Trump's election was fueled by an unprecedented coalition that defied traditional left-right divides. This coalition is now threatened by potential war with Iran, which could undermine Trump's key planks: ending forever wars, securing the border, and renegotiating trade deals. The speaker believes the "deep state" is driving the US towards war, despite intel suggesting otherwise. The speaker argues that the US is already in a "shooting part of the third world war," bloodier than the lead-up to WWII. He accuses Fox News of playing a central role in propaganda and says the rise of Trump is from the failed Iraq war and the 2008 financial collapse. The speaker calls for a "throwdown" with the deep state, naming the CIA, DNI, DOJ, FBI, DIA, and the Pentagon. He believes these entities are controlled by Wall Street, foreign investors, and Silicon Valley, and are subverting Trump's agenda. He suggests figures like Lindsey Graham and Mike Pompeo are acting against Trump's goals. The speaker advocates for mass deportations and accuses California of "neo-Confederate" defiance of federal law. He believes the US government should prioritize American citizens.

The deep state refers to career employees within the U.S. government and military who influence policy without being directly accountable to elected officials. Agencies like the FCC, CIA, SEC, and IRS have the power to enact regulations that can significantly impact our lives, often more than laws passed by Congress. These regulations, totaling 200,000 since 1975 and spanning 800,000 pages, demonstrate that the deep state is not a secret but a well-established reality. Unfortunately, these career employees cannot be easily fired, ensuring that political interests have limited influence over them. This situation highlights a concerning aspect of our governance that needs to be acknowledged.

Donald Trump's election was fueled by an unprecedented coalition, challenging the traditional left-right paradigm. The coalition's core tenets are stopping forever wars, securing the border, deporting illegal immigrants, and redoing trade deals to bring back manufacturing jobs. A potential war with Persia threatens to dismantle this coalition and derail efforts to deport illegal immigrants. The speaker argues that a "deep state" apparatus, beholden to Wall Street, foreign investors, and Silicon Valley, consistently undermines these objectives, regardless of whether the president is Barack Obama or Donald Trump. This apparatus, deeply embedded within agencies like the CIA, FBI, and Pentagon, operates with its own agenda, prioritizing globalist interests over national sovereignty. The speaker advocates for a direct confrontation with the deep state, demanding transparency, accountability, and dismantling of its power structures. He criticizes Fox News for allegedly playing a central role in a propaganda operation, reminiscent of the Iraq War era. He also suggests that the US is closer to a third world war than many realize, with conflicts in Ukraine, Gaza, and potentially Persia escalating tensions.

Without a strong feedback loop between the people and their government, democracy loses its meaning. Bureaucratic rule undermines the power of elected officials—the president, the Senate, and the House—to represent the will of the people. If unelected bureaucrats make the decisions, we don't have a democracy; we have a bureaucracy. It's crucial to repair this feedback loop so that our elected representatives, not unelected bureaucrats, determine our nation's course. The public's chosen leaders in the presidency, House, and Senate must be the ultimate decision-makers.

The speaker discusses the concept of the deep state, explaining that it is not comprised of one individual but rather a machine or beast that goes beyond any single person. They use the example of the FBI to illustrate this point, stating that while many individuals who work there may be good people, they are part of a larger system that has its own culture and history of corruption. The speaker also discusses the decentralization of censorship, where the government delegates the task to administrative agencies, private sector executives, and AI algorithms. They argue that we are in a modern 1775 moment, where the real divide is between the managerial class and the citizen.

Many of you failed to acknowledge Joe Biden's mental state and his role in leading the country. You also misunderstand how government works by saying Elon isn't elected. A president is elected by all Americans, unlike judges or members of Congress. The Constitution vests executive power in the president. This president appoints staff to carry out the democratic will. The real threat to democracy comes from unelected, tenured civil servants who ignore the will of the people. When Americans vote for change, like FBI reform or ending DEI, these bureaucrats resist. President Trump is removing those defying democracy by not implementing his lawful orders, which reflect the will of the American people.

One speaker disputes the existence of a "deep state," arguing that the idea is paranoid, while another speaker defines "America First" as elected officials running the government and owing their sole moral duty to American citizens. This speaker claims unelected bureaucrats control much of public policy, forming a modern technocracy. They link foreign policy failures to the rise of the welfare and regulatory state, arguing interventionism abroad invites crises at home. The speakers debate the success of intervention in Afghanistan. One speaker argues the US succeeded in preventing attacks until the Trump/Biden withdrawal, while the other speaker points to the Taliban's resurgence and abandoned resources as evidence of failure. One speaker blames Trump's withdrawal for the Taliban's return, while the other speaker argues the withdrawal could have been executed better. The speaker judges past policies by their results, citing Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan as failures, and advocates for US leaders to prioritize American interests over a bureaucratic vision of advancing democracy.

Speaker 0: We have a problem with the CIA and FBI in Washington. Speaker 1: What's your plan to start over and fix them? Speaker 0: They've gotten out of control, with weaponization and other issues. The people need to bring about change. We were making progress, but more needs to be done.

If there isn't a solid feedback loop connecting the people to the government, and the bureaucracy is in charge, what does democracy even mean? If the people can't vote and have their will enacted by their elected officials like the president, senate, and house, then we're not in a democracy, we're in a bureaucracy. It's crucial to fix this feedback loop so that the public's elected representatives decide what happens, not a large, unelected bureaucracy. There are good people in the federal bureaucracy, but it can't be autonomous. It must be responsive to the people; that's the whole point of a democracy.

Many of you failed to acknowledge Joe Biden's mental state and questioned Elon Musk's authority, revealing a misunderstanding of government. The President, elected by the entire nation, embodies the will of the American people. He appoints staff to implement this democratic will throughout the government. The real threat to democracy comes from unelected, tenured bureaucrats who disregard the people's vote. They resist change, whether it's FBI reform, energy policies, or ending DEI, undermining the democratic process. President Trump is removing these officials who defy democracy by not implementing his lawful orders, which represent the will of the American people.

The discussion centers on how politicization of intelligence has manifested in different eras, comparing past and present administrations. Speaker 0 asks whether the politicized weapons claims about Iraq and the CIA’s statements in the 1990s can be compared to today’s politicization of intelligence under John Ratcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard as head of DNI, arguing it is much worse now because of the mediocrity of those in control of key agencies. Speaker 1 counters by recalling the 1980s, noting that there was significant politicization of the Soviet threat to justify Reagan’s defense buildup, and adds that this is why he testified against Robert Gates in 1991. He asserts that politicization is bad, and insists that the current situation is worse than in the past. Speaker 1 explains: “It’s Because I look at the people who are ahead of these groups. Come on. Let’s be serious.” He targets the leadership of the director of national intelligence, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA, saying, “Have you ever seen a cabinet in The United States of such mediocrity, of such venality?” He emphasizes his background, stating, “I haven’t,” and that nothing compares to what is going on now, warning that “a lot of damage is being done to The United States and to the constitution of The United States and to the importance of separation of powers and the importance of rule of law and the importance of checks and balances. This is very serious stuff.” Speaker 0 attempts to steer toward historical figures like Robert Maxwell, but Speaker 1 dismisses that concern as off point, insisting he is making a point about Israel. The exchange then shifts to U.S. support for Israel, with Speaker 1 asserting that “Israel gets what it wants from The United States. It gets it from democratic presidents and from republican presidents.” He also criticizes Barack Obama for signing what he calls “that ten year $40,000,000,000 arms aid agreement,” arguing that Obama “never should have signed” it “because they treated Obama so shabbily in the first place.”

The speaker claims Joe Biden is mentally incompetent and not running the country. They state that a president is elected by the whole American people, unlike judges or members of congress. According to the vesting clause, the executive power is vested in the president. The speaker believes the existential threat to democracy is the unelected bureaucracy of lifetime tenured civil servants who defy the will of the American people. They allege these bureaucrats believe they answer to no one and can do whatever they want without consequence, setting their own agenda regardless of how Americans vote. The speaker asserts that President Trump is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing to implement his lawful orders, which represent the will of the whole American people.

The deep state in Washington DC is a group of elites who believe they know better than the American people. The current administration is seen as a joke with unsuccessful policies. The speaker, who worked in the Pentagon after Trump, believes no one is truly leading the country. They criticize Secretary Austin and Mark Milley for the Afghan withdrawal and call the situation at the border a crisis. The speaker wants DJT back in office to restore order.

The speaker claims that current political discourse lacks depth, focusing on short-term goals rather than addressing systemic issues like the bureaucracy, which they define as a "deep state" constituting a fourth branch of government. This bureaucracy allegedly consolidates legislative, judicial, and executive powers, mirroring the tyranny the founding fathers sought to prevent. According to the speaker, bureaucratic agencies write regulations, enforce them with their own law enforcement, and adjudicate them through administrative courts, bypassing the federal system. These agencies purportedly collude with corporate and banking interests to transfer public funds to private entities. The speaker criticizes GOP candidates for mentioning the "deep state" without explaining its roots or offering concrete solutions. They propose legislative action to change or defund these agencies, requiring a supportive President and Congress. However, they believe many representatives prioritize corporate interests over the people. Restructuring these agencies and removing obstructive figures is also necessary. While not interested in running for office themselves, the speaker wants to hold candidates accountable and believes their inability to articulate these problems simply is disqualifying.

The speakers discuss the concept of the "deep state" or the managerial class, which they describe as a system that operates independently of elected officials and is driven by a desire for power. They argue that this system undermines the accountability of elected representatives and prevents the government from truly representing the people. They suggest that breaking this system is necessary to restore American pride and ensure that the government serves the interests of the people. The speakers also touch on the importance of civic rituals, such as voting, in reaffirming the ideals on which the country was founded.