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The speakers express concern about the limited reporting of adverse reactions to vaccines. They highlight a report suggesting that only 5% of adverse reactions are recorded in the database. Despite this, they emphasize the safety of the COVID vaccine and assure viewers that it is safe. They also compare the number of adverse event reports for all vaccines in New Zealand, which is typically around 1500 a year, with the low number of deaths reported following vaccination.

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There have been reported side effects of the vaccine, including muscle pain, headaches, feeling unwell, fatigue, and pain at the injection site. It is important to investigate these outbreaks that occur consistently one to two weeks after vaccination. Transparency is crucial, and it is necessary to determine if any deaths are directly related to the vaccination or if there were underlying health conditions. However, there is concern that underlying conditions are often prioritized over the vaccine as the cause of death. This uncertainty raises questions about the accuracy of COVID-19 death statistics. It is crucial to have accurate information about COVID-19 infections and vaccine risks to maintain public trust and promote vaccination. The minister's response to these concerns is seen as alarming and undermines public health.

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Speaker 0: Take the shot and protect yourself and the people around you. We all feel a chill when we hear that. Mrs. van der Hof from the RIVM, you’ve researched the effects of vaccination. If you look under the line, has it had any usefulness? Speaker 1: It has certainly been useful. In fact, from our research, but also from many other studies, people who were vaccinated had a lower chance of dying from COVID, and we see that effect with every shot that’s given. We also studied whether there is a higher chance of dying from diseases other than COVID shortly after vaccination, to see whether there is vaccine harm, and we do not find that either, which is also in line with what is found internationally. Speaker 0: Okay, because that is the story you hear at the dinner table. Earlier this week someone said, I see so many people dying, there must be something. Speaker 1: Yes. Well, there are certainly people who have died due to the vaccination. We cannot deny that. That has been investigated; we find that in the Netherlands through Lareb, and we find that internationally as well. You just have to weigh the very small chance that you become ill or die from a vaccination against the chance that you become very ill or die from COVID. And the balance tips toward vaccination. Speaker 0: Yes, vaccination protects more than it harms, you just said. Also, have you studied the chance of death due to vaccination? Speaker 1: Well, we looked at people who were vaccinated and whether within 2 months after vaccination they had an increased chance of dying from anything other than COVID. If there were an indication there, we would see it, and we absolutely do not find that. Speaker 0: No, that is simply not found. Okay. Mrs. Van der Broek, and the pandemic was a priority.

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Speaker 0 is pleased about vaccination effectiveness in preventing severe COVID and long-term effects. They mention rare side effects from vaccines and emphasize the importance of ongoing monitoring. Speaker 1 questions the safety of products on the market without complete testing. The TGA lacks data on adverse events due to underreporting, leading to audience frustration.

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I sincerely apologize for dismissing concerns about menstrual irregularities caused by the Pfizer vaccine. A Pfizer executive confirmed that they were aware of this issue. Pathological specimens showed an excess of spike protein in the ovaries, adrenal gland, myelin, and neuronal cell wall. The spike protein also affects plasminogen activator inhibitor, leading to bleeding and clotting problems. It can cause issues with the lining of the arteries, including the uterine wall. There are at least five mechanisms that could be causing these problems. I have learned that certainty and hubris are the enemy, and we should not discount anything until we have all the data. COVID-19 may also be a factor. The vaccine seems to only deliver the spike protein, not the nucleocapsid protein.

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Some people love the vaccines, while others hate them. The speaker acknowledges that vaccines have saved lives, but also mentions concerns about their safety. Reports vary on the effectiveness and problems with the vaccines, but the speaker claims to have saved 100 million lives. They argue that those who get very sick and go to the hospital are usually the ones who haven't taken the vaccine. The mainstream media is accused of stifling information about adverse reactions. The speaker believes the vaccines have saved millions of lives but criticizes the media for pausing the Johnson and Johnson vaccine over a small number of cases.

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There have been no concerning long-term side effects of the vaccine so far. The vaccine has only been in use for about a year, and we haven't seen any alarming issues with other vaccines that have been used for a long time. While we can't say for certain what might happen after several years, there is no scientific reason to believe that problems would suddenly arise. Although the vaccine is new, we have no plausible reason to expect any issues in the future.

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Taixin Media from China asks about concerns regarding the long-term effects of mRNA vaccines. Richard acknowledges that mRNA vaccines have only been administered for a limited time, but emphasizes that the number of people who have received the vaccine greatly outweighs the reported side effects. He believes that the limited side effects make long-term concerns less significant. Another participant adds that mRNA vaccines cannot integrate into DNA, ensuring safety. The main adverse effect observed is mild myocarditis or pericarditis, primarily affecting young males, but it typically resolves without long-term consequences.

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The speaker expresses concern that only 5% of adverse reactions are reported in the database, suggesting it's just the tip of the iceberg. Another speaker reassures that the vaccine is safe and there is no evidence of it causing deaths. Prior to the COVID vaccine rollout, an average of 1500 adverse event reports were received annually for all vaccines in New Zealand, resulting in one or fewer reported deaths per year.

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The speaker addresses concerns about the long-term negative impact of the vaccine. They explain that the RNA in the vaccine is identical to the RNA in our cells, which does not cause long-term adverse events. The RNA is quickly degraded and eliminated from the body. The lipid nanoparticles in the vaccine also disappear within 24 to 48 hours. The speaker emphasizes that none of the vaccine components remain in the body after a week. They debunk the myth that the mRNA integrates or mutates DNA, stating that it has no effect on DNA. They mention that 90% of adverse events to vaccines occur within the first 6 weeks, and so far, no unusual adverse events have been observed among the 15 million people who have received the vaccine. The only serious adverse reaction is anaphylaxis, which occurs in about 1 in 100,000 people. The speaker concludes by highlighting the extremely low odds of experiencing an adverse event from the vaccine.

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The White House blames a few bad actors for spreading online misinformation. The CDC states that vaccinated people don't carry the virus or get sick. They also say there are no safety concerns for pregnant or lactating individuals and their babies. However, a new paper using government data found a 1,200-fold increase in menstrual abnormalities after COVID-19 vaccination. Despite this, the CDC claims there are very few safety concerns. There was also a 57-fold increase in another outcome.

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I am one of the scientists involved in a study on the safety and dependency of vaccine batches. We found three types of side effects: mild, severe, and even death. These adverse effects were present in the initial batches, which may have been changed during production or transportation. Patients were not informed of the risks and some received poor-quality batches. The Vice President of Pfizer admitted to building the plane while flying, and we have shown that one wing has fallen off. There is a safety issue that the European Medicines Agency (EMA) and national institutions should have addressed and informed the public about. Our study also suggests a potential link between certain cancers and different vaccine batches. We have observed increased mortality rates in European countries since May 21st. The EMA should have reacted to these findings and halted vaccinations or at least withdrawn the problematic batches. As a concerned citizen and doctor, I expected more action from the EMA. Thank you.

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The speaker cross-examined Dr. Lourenco about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccine. They compared it to previous vaccines like pneumonia and shingles, asking if the same rigorous testing process was followed. Dr. Lourenco confirmed that animal trials and two phases of human trials were conducted for those vaccines before approval. However, she admitted that the final phase of human trials, which has been completed for all other vaccines in Canada, was not done for the COVID-19 vaccines. She tried to justify this by mentioning a new process.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain why the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination but does not provide a clear explanation. Speaker 0 insists on understanding the mechanism and questions why the vaccine is considered safe without addressing the risks. Speaker 2 intervenes, suggesting that Speaker 1 will address the question later. Speaker 1 talks about the benefit-risk ratio and the global recommendation of health authorities. Speaker 0 reiterates the question, to which Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. Speaker 2 confirms this agreement.

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Experts, including the speaker, believe that the COVID-19 vaccine is safe for pregnant women based on extensive research. The vaccines have been proven safe and effective in the general population, without affecting fertility rates. They also provide protection against COVID-19 for pregnant women. The speaker, if pregnant, would definitely get vaccinated as the risks of the vaccine are much lower than the risks of the disease itself. Even children are eager to get vaccinated to regain their normal lives. However, another speaker raises concerns about fetal and chromosomal malformations, premature births, and respiratory issues after mRNA injections. They accuse pharmaceutical companies of hiding information about the deaths of two babies due to transplacental exposure to the vaccine. They call for attorney generals to investigate these claims. The Moderna documents are said to contain similar shocking information.

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The speakers express concern that only a small percentage of adverse reactions to vaccines are reported. Despite this, they assure viewers that the COVID vaccine is safe. They highlight that prior to the COVID vaccine rollout, an average of 1500 adverse event reports were received each year for all vaccines in New Zealand, resulting in one or fewer reported deaths annually.

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Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about a report stating that serious adverse reactions occur in 1 in 800 vaccinated individuals. Speaker 1 claims to be unaware of the report but mentions routine screening of literature for adverse events. When asked about Moderna's rate of serious adverse events, Speaker 1 cannot provide the information. Speaker 0 expresses frustration and finds it extraordinary that a multinational company cannot provide this data. Speaker 1 offers to provide the information later but states that no safety concerns were observed in their clinical trials. Speaker 0 concludes that the conversation is a waste of time.

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Speaker 0 asked about the visibility of the medium to long-term effects of the vaccine in three to five years. Speaker 1 responded that they cannot predict how things will be in three to five years, but mentioned that 92-93% of the population will be vaccinated. Speaker 0 expressed confusion, and Speaker 1 clarified that 92-93% is the current vaccination rate. Speaker 0 raised concerns about potential side effects, but Speaker 1 reassured them that if there are any, the majority of the population would be affected. Speaker 0 remained unconvinced and expressed hesitation about getting vaccinated.

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We are vaccinating millions, and while there are reports of deaths following vaccinations, there is no evidence that the vaccine causes these deaths. Adverse reactions must be reported, but many go unreported, potentially skewing data. For instance, only 5% of adverse reactions may reach the monitoring database. There have been serious cases, including hospitalizations, that are not being documented properly. Despite the numbers, experts assert that the vaccine is safe and effective. It's crucial for the public to understand that while adverse events will occur, they are often coincidental. The vaccine remains vital for public health, and getting vaccinated is strongly encouraged.

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Speaker 0 asks if people are not afraid of the side effects of the Covid vaccine. Speaker 1 responds that they are more afraid of long-term effects of Covid itself than the vaccine's side effects. They mention that billions of people have been vaccinated with no major side effects reported. Speaker 1 also addresses the concern that women are more affected by vaccine side effects, stating that there is no scientific evidence to support this claim. They mention not having any information from the COVAS (the organization responsible for scientific surveillance) or any published studies on this matter.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain the process of how the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination. Speaker 0 insists on an explanation of the mechanism, but Speaker 1 does not provide a direct answer. Speaker 1 emphasizes that all medicines have benefits and side effects and refers to the benefit-risk ratio. Speaker 0 continues to press for an explanation of the biochemical pathway, but Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. The transcript ends with Speaker 2 confirming Speaker 1's agreement to give a further response.

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Speaker 0 assures that reported side effects of the vaccine are expected and not concerning. They urge people to report any unusual reactions. Speaker 1 emphasizes the importance of transparency and unbiased investigation into outbreaks following vaccination. They question the accuracy of recording underlying causes of death related to COVID-19. Speaker 0 dismisses these concerns, stating that spreading doubts about vaccine safety during a pandemic is dangerous and undermines public health. Speaker 1 finds the minister's response concerning and ends the conversation.

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The speakers express concern about the limited reporting of adverse reactions to vaccines. They mention a report suggesting that only 5% of adverse reactions are recorded in the database. Despite this, they assure viewers that the COVID vaccine is safe. They highlight that prior to the COVID vaccine rollout, the average number of adverse event reports for all vaccines in New Zealand was 1500 per year, with one or fewer deaths reported annually.

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The speaker discusses the strange situation regarding the pharmacovigilance system's early awareness of menstrual side effects from the vaccine. Despite this, the European Medicines Agency initially concluded that it was not significant, but recently revised their diagnosis. It is peculiar that while the pharmacovigilance system alerted early based on feedback from vaccinated individuals, it took a considerable amount of time for the French National Agency for Medicines and Health Products Safety to accept it as a probable side effect.

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On COVID, there's a perception that credit isn't given where it's due. While the vaccines were developed quickly, they don't prevent infection or transmission and may have serious side effects. In hindsight, would anything be done differently? Studies on the vaccines are ongoing, and results will emerge over time. It's important to note that Pfizer marketed its vaccine as safe for pregnant women, but reports indicated that over half of the 458 pregnant women who received the vaccine experienced adverse events. The ongoing studies will help clarify these concerns.
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