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Speaker 0 argues that Elon’s estimate of 20% of federal spending being part of a fraud camp could be higher, and when including state and local spending, the accounting suggests a sizable percentage of overall GDP is effectively theft through government agencies or checks. He predicts a “great uncovering” in 2026, with trillions of dollars of this behavior across the economy, and notes that on the other side, nothing will happen because the cost will be so significant it will feel like staring into the abyss.
Speaker 1 asks how to differentiate between legal theft and illegal theft, noting that Somali daycares’ actions were outright fraud and illegal, while Stacey Abrams’s NGO receiving $2,000,000,000 late in the Biden administration is technically legal but clearly a different kind of theft and fraud.
Speaker 0 responds with a test: “Would you throw up in your mouth when you heard the news? That’s the test. If you don’t pass the common sense vomit in the mouth test, it doesn’t matter whether it’s legal or illegal. It’s up. And you’ll realize that pretty quickly.”