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Speaker 0 states that one of their three children experienced health issues, including heart inflammation, after receiving the vaccine and subsequently lost their job for refusing further vaccination. This adverse reaction is officially registered. The speaker recounts a doctor advising their son against further vaccination outside a hospital setting, but later denying having said so. Speaker 1 says there is a good system for reporting side effects in New Zealand and finds no clear evidence of suppression of medical side effects of the Pfizer vaccine. Speaker 0 questions why the vaccine is still in use given the side effects. Speaker 1 responds that society decided to tolerate a certain number of adverse effects for the greater good, characterizing the speaker's family member's reaction as "taking one for the team."

The speaker discusses the code blue emergency situation in hospitals and the increase in code blues after the rollout of the COVID vaccine. They mention hearing 1 code blue per shift for 10 years, but after the vaccine, they heard between 6 to 10 code blues per shift, mostly in the lower level injection clinic. The speaker also shares that two colleagues had anaphylactic shock after receiving the vaccine, indicating significant harm. They express frustration about being pressured not to report adverse events and being fired for speaking out. Despite facing consequences, the speaker emphasizes their courage in addressing uncomfortable topics and asks others to consider their motives for speaking out.

The discussion revolves around the potential negative impacts of the COVID-19 vaccine, particularly on young men with myocarditis. The effectiveness of the vaccine in reducing transmission and severe outcomes is debated, with one side emphasizing its benefits and the other questioning the motives of pharmaceutical companies. The conversation highlights concerns about the vaccine's safety and the role of the government in promoting vaccination. Ultimately, the debate centers on the balance between public health and individual rights.

The speaker claims the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives but acknowledges side effects and breakthrough infections. The speaker argues that the vaccine was claimed to stop transmission and infection, but it did not. An argument ensues with someone who disagrees, with accusations of being crazy and shutting up. The speaker denies using ad hominem attacks.

A father rushes to the hospital after receiving a call about his daughter. She had taken the COVID vaccine without informing her parents. The daughter's condition worsens, and she is moved to the ICU. It is later discovered that she developed heart damage from the vaccine. The family initially didn't realize the connection but eventually researched and found the truth. The daughter's health deteriorates rapidly, and she passes away. The autopsy reveals vaccine-induced myocarditis as the cause of death. This tragic incident highlights the potential risks associated with the COVID vaccine, particularly in children.

The speaker asks if there is a higher incidence of myocarditis among adolescent males aged 16 to 24 after taking the vaccine. The other speaker responds by saying that the data from the CDC shows that there is actually less myocarditis in people who get the vaccine compared to those who get COVID. The first speaker disagrees and presents six peer-reviewed papers that contradict this claim. They also mention speaking with the president who privately acknowledged the increased risk of myocarditis. The conversation then shifts to discussing the rationality of mandating three vaccines for adolescent boys and the timing of myocarditis after the second dose. The first speaker criticizes the CDC's recommendation to vaccinate individuals who have recovered from COVID and experienced myocarditis. They argue that many countries do not offer the vaccine to children unless they are at risk for severe disease. The first speaker concludes by stating that the risk and benefits of vaccination need to be weighed, and that parents are unlikely to comply with mandatory vaccination for their children.

A person asks a pharmacy employee for the Moderna vaccine safety studies and placebo safety studies. The employee provides the manufacturer's package insert, stating the patient version is truncated, but the full information is inside. The person questions how informed consent is possible if all safety studies aren't listed. The employee agrees, stating they should not be giving the vaccines at all, but are told to. The employee claims everything they have seen, including patients they have given it to, indicates it is safe. When asked about the studies supporting the claim of safety and effectiveness, the employee says they cannot answer.

Mr. Fletcher is questioned about the risks of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. The latest Pfizer report lists various side effects, and it is suggested that doctors should inform patients about these risks. However, Mr. Fletcher states that it is not their responsibility to do so. Concerns are raised about the thoroughness of vaccine testing, and some health professionals have had their licenses suspended for expressing these concerns. Mr. Fletcher emphasizes that practitioners should use their professional judgment and provide information based on the best available evidence. The discussion also touches on the importance of discussing side effects and the need to address a culture of fear among health practitioners.

Speaker 0 confronts a pharmacist about their son's hospitalization due to myocarditis after receiving a COVID jab. Speaker 0 is upset that his wife was not informed about this potential side effect. Speaker 1 explains that they may not disclose the side effect to avoid scaring parents away from vaccinating their children. Speaker 0 expresses disbelief and insists that parents should be given accurate information to make informed decisions.

Speaker 0 acknowledges reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with the Pfizer vaccine but seems unsure about the mechanism behind it. Speaker 1 asks if the vaccine was tested for its ability to stop virus transmission before being released. Speaker 2 questions if people were forced to get vaccinated to keep their jobs and asks Speaker 0 to retract their statement. Speaker 0 clarifies that everyone had the choice to get vaccinated or not, and they don't believe anyone was forced.

The speaker's son was diagnosed with an infection, but the nurse practitioner refused to give medication. The speaker questioned this decision and began recording the interaction. The situation escalated, with security being called. The speaker expressed frustration and threatened to share the video with others.

An individual states they will not get vaccinated due to a lack of clear information and the speed of vaccine development, which they believe is insufficient. They claim nine months is not enough time for vaccine development. Another individual says they are only speaking in close proximity because they are vaccinated, and that not getting vaccinated will allow the virus to continue spreading. The first individual compares COVID-19 to the flu. Someone states COVID-19 is more serious than the flu, and that while 20-30,000 people died of the flu the previous year, 600,000 Americans have died from COVID-19. The first individual disputes the COVID-19 death toll, claiming it is "you all's number." The first individual believes there is something else going on when people are paid or incentivized to get vaccinated, and that the vaccination campaign incites fear in people, and that the pandemic is fear.

A father rushes to the hospital after receiving a call about his daughter. She had taken the COVID vaccine without informing her parents. Later, they discover that she developed heart damage and a scar as a result. Despite initial disbelief, they eventually realize the severity of the situation. The daughter's condition worsens, and she passes away in the hospital. The tragic loss is attributed to vaccine-induced myocarditis.

The speaker expresses skepticism about the number of COVID patients in hospitals and claims that most patients are vaccinated. They urge the media to tell the truth and ask for support. Another speaker, identified as a nurse, asks if they are seeing the same people in the hospital. The first speaker responds by mentioning serious adverse effects, specifically myocarditis in 20-year-olds, which can lead to cardiac transplants. They highlight the low organ donor rate in Australia. The conversation ends with a request for clarification.

Speaker 0 challenges the doctor, asking if they are being forced to put their child on ADHD medicine or risk CPS involvement. Speaker 1 asserts that the medication is recommended for the child and that following the doctor’s instructions is in the child’s best interest. The doctor states they will be forced to call CPS if the guidance isn’t followed and emphasizes doing what’s best for the child, framing it as not a favor but a necessity. Speaker 0 contends the child has not shown ADHD symptoms and asks for a second opinion, to which Speaker 1 responds that they are the doctor. Speaker 0 reiterates that they are being told either to put the child on medication or CPS will be called, calling this forcing. The doctor clarifies that they asked about a second opinion, maintains they are the doctor, and says if the patient doesn’t trust their doctor, they shouldn’t be coming there, which Speaker 0 finds unreasonable. Speaker 1 repeats that they are not threatening, but are trying to do what’s best for the patient and their child, and adds that if you love your child enough you will listen to their words. Speaker 0 pushes back, stating you cannot tell them how to feel about loving their child, and reiterates that the doctor is still the doctor, with Speaker 1 acknowledging the child’s importance but underscoring their medical role.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain why the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination but does not provide a clear explanation. Speaker 0 insists on understanding the mechanism and questions why the vaccine is considered safe without addressing the risks. Speaker 2 intervenes, suggesting that Speaker 1 will address the question later. Speaker 1 talks about the benefit-risk ratio and the global recommendation of health authorities. Speaker 0 reiterates the question, to which Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. Speaker 2 confirms this agreement.

Chris and I chose not to vaccinate, concerned about myocarditis. Our family faced tension over vaccination choices, especially after Rory's tragic incident. He got vaccinated and soon after reported discomfort. One night, he collapsed, and despite my efforts to reach him, he was gone. The health commissioner stated that the risks of the vaccine weren't clearly communicated, but it wasn't a breach of rights. Rory's death was linked to acute myocarditis from the vaccine. Many believe the vaccine is safe, and experts emphasize its effectiveness. However, there are concerns about the pressure to vaccinate, which some feel compromised their choices. Ultimately, the message remains that the vaccine is considered very safe.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about a report stating that serious adverse reactions occur in 1 in 800 vaccinated individuals. Speaker 1 claims to be unaware of the report but mentions routine screening of literature for adverse events. When asked about Moderna's rate of serious adverse events, Speaker 1 cannot provide the information. Speaker 0 expresses frustration and finds it extraordinary that a multinational company cannot provide this data. Speaker 1 offers to provide the information later but states that no safety concerns were observed in their clinical trials. Speaker 0 concludes that the conversation is a waste of time.

Speaker 0 questions whether it is a conflict of interest for government employees who profit from the vaccine to dictate vaccine policies. Speaker 1 responds that the government should decide. Speaker 0 asks about the higher incidence of myocarditis among adolescent males after vaccination. Speaker 1 claims that the data shows less risk with the vaccine compared to getting COVID. Speaker 0 disagrees and presents peer-reviewed papers contradicting Speaker 1's claim. Speaker 0 questions the scientific soundness of mandating three vaccines for adolescent boys and suggests having a rational discussion about one vaccine. Speaker 1 defers to public health leaders. Speaker 0 criticizes the CDC's recommendation to vaccinate children multiple times and compares it to other countries' approaches. Speaker 1 admits to vaccinating their own children multiple times. Speaker 0 argues that the risk of myocarditis after vaccination should be weighed against the risk of the disease. Speaker 0 also expresses concern about conflicts of interest in government decision-making.

A person states they won't get the COVID-19 vaccine due to a lack of initial clarity and the speed of its creation, arguing nine months isn't enough time. Another person explains that twenty years of science went into the approach used to create the vaccine and that vaccination is necessary to stop the virus from spreading. The first person compares COVID-19 to the flu, but is told COVID-19 is more serious. They then question the official death toll and suggest incentives for vaccination indicate ulterior motives. The second person states that millions of people were vaccinated to protect their health and community. The first person concludes that the vaccination campaign is based on fear.

The speaker asks Pfizer and Moderna to explain how the COVID-19 vaccine causes myocarditis. The response from the doctors is that the exact mechanism is still being studied, but myocarditis is generally an autoimmune response that can occur after COVID-19 or other infections. The speaker questions if other organs could also be affected by the vaccine, but the doctors explain that ongoing surveillance is in place to monitor potential risks. The speaker expresses concern about the lack of initial disclosure of these risks. The doctors emphasize the importance of preventing COVID-19 and state that the reported rate of myocarditis is around 2-3 per 100,000 doses. The speaker argues that if it can happen to the heart, it could happen to other organs. The conversation ends due to time constraints.

The speaker discusses the impact of the vaccine on saving lives and acknowledges that there are side effects. They mention that both the virus and the vaccine have changed over the past two years, leading to transmission and infection. However, there is disagreement between the speakers, with one denying the effectiveness of the vaccine. The conversation becomes heated, with one person telling the other to be quiet.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to explain the process of how the vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis. Speaker 1 mentions rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with vaccination. Speaker 0 insists on an explanation of the mechanism, but Speaker 1 does not provide a direct answer. Speaker 1 emphasizes that all medicines have benefits and side effects and refers to the benefit-risk ratio. Speaker 0 continues to press for an explanation of the biochemical pathway, but Speaker 1 agrees to provide a response later. The transcript ends with Speaker 2 confirming Speaker 1's agreement to give a further response.

Speaker 0 assures that reported side effects of the vaccine are expected and not concerning. They urge people to report any unusual reactions. Speaker 1 emphasizes the importance of transparency and unbiased investigation into outbreaks following vaccination. They question the accuracy of recording underlying causes of death related to COVID-19. Speaker 0 dismisses these concerns, stating that spreading doubts about vaccine safety during a pandemic is dangerous and undermines public health. Speaker 1 finds the minister's response concerning and ends the conversation.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 engage in a conversation about COVID laws. Speaker 1 asks if Speaker 0 has just vaccinated someone. Speaker 1 expresses concern about people having fits outside the vaccination center, referring to it as a "death bus" and accusing Speaker 0 of killing people. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 questioning Speaker 0's actions.