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I fired 4 shots at Joseph Rosenbaum, not to kill him, but to stop him from attacking me and trying to steal my gun.

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The discussion centers on a group of notable figures surrounding the death of Charlie Kirk, a story that the speakers describe as growing increasingly crowded with unusual characters. Skyler Baird is introduced as one of the voices commenting on the event, and the conversation emphasizes a highly charged, almost surreal sequence of moments surrounding the tragedy. Skyler Baird recounts being perhaps 10 or 15 feet away when the incident occurred and suggests that viewers should watch the video for about ten seconds to catch what happened. The dialogue highlights an attempt to balance the tone by noting a focus on the positive and asking how to ensure that Charlie Kirk is remembered. The remark characterizes Skyler’s reaction to witnessing what is described as a “publicly executed” moment on September 10 as “quite a completely natural reaction,” framing it as a baseline of normality in an otherwise extraordinary and troubling narrative. The discussion then pivots to Skyler’s first contribution in the aftermath of the event. Skyler describes how he was right there and “kinda escorted” the person involved to a police officer. He clarifies that there was a cop nearby as well, but emphasizes his role in escorting the individual. The person who is escorted is described as saying, “I shot him. I shot him.” This claim becomes a focal point of the recounting, signaling a pivotal, sensational moment in the sequence of events. Attention then shifts to the figure known as old man George, identified as George Zinn. The narrative recalls that he stood up immediately after Charlie was shot and shouted, “shoot me, shoot me.” The speakers remind the audience that George Zinn had previously been characterized as a bad man with very dark proclivities, a framing that is referenced to underscore the dramatic shifts in how characters are perceived as the story unfolds. Skyler’s involvement is linked to these evolving perceptions, as he is described as having helped apprehend the decoy. The passage concludes with an admission that the sequence may be a matter of coincidence, expressed as “Coincidence, I suppose.” The speakers remark that the Internet promptly responds, with “the Internet doing its thing” and beginning to discuss and analyze the developing storyline.

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They were unsure about containing the fire, so I suggested pulling the building to prevent further loss of life. They made the decision to pull it, and we saw the building collapse.

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I shot him multiple times until he was no longer a threat. Despite being a medic with first aid training, I did not help him. The incident occurred near a hospital, but my first instinct was to flee due to the growing crowd chanting to attack me.

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The speaker argues that the Second Amendment is a right, not a privilege, but with restrictions that include having an ID and a permit on hand. He notes that current reports claim Alex Pretty did not have either on, implying he was not carrying legally. Beyond legality, the speaker emphasizes a responsibility to carry a firearm with foresight and understanding of the situation, recommending that someone who carries take a training class for their state, and even suggesting taxpayers fund it if possible because it’s a right. Regarding the shooting incident, the speaker states that only one person could have absolutely prevented Alex Pretty from being shot that day: Alex Pretty himself. He asserts he does not think the shooting was necessary to save a life, but he watched the incident from behind Pretty and not as an arresting officer or as the person who might have fired. He questions why Pretty had 10 rounds, arguing that if someone is shot, the shooter should have aimed to kill because they are trying to kill you; he attributes this to police training and the reasonableness doctrine. The speaker references the Supreme Court’s reasonableness doctrine, explaining that a police officer may protect themselves when someone has resisted arrest, disobeyed orders, and shown the means to harm. He concedes Pretty should not have been shot, noting there were ten minutes prior to the event with alternative actions that could have been taken, but he did not see those ten minutes. He describes Pretty as a protester versus an agitator, noting Pretty arrived with a cell phone and stood in the middle of a street during an operation, which the speaker labels as common sense. He asserts that carrying a weapon and entering the middle of a police operation is lawful, but suggests another prevention: a police cordon by the Minneapolis Police Department to prevent people like Pretty from entering the middle of the operation, instead of standing 100 feet away with a sign. The speaker acknowledges potential liability for any federal agent who acted prematurely or shot when they shouldn’t have, but reiterates that Pretty had no business where he was at that moment and did resist arrest. He states that in Minnesota, a carry permit is revoked at the moment of resisting arrest. Finally, the speaker blames politicians for letting the event happen, naming Donald Trump and Tim Walz as figures discussed. He calls for Border Patrol agents to secure the border and for the Minneapolis Police Department to be present to manage crowds. He mentions Jose Huerta Chuma, describing a violent rap sheet including domestic assault, and argues that sympathy for someone who is willing to risk the safety of others should diminish. He emphasizes a desire for no one to get hurt and urges people to use common sense, especially when carrying a weapon.

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I witnessed unprecedented violence against police officers through the media. It was brutal and ugly, but our officers responded as necessary. However, a protester claims that the violence could have been avoided if the police hadn't used concussion grenades and pepper spray. According to the protester, the protest was peaceful, and the officers started firing without any provocation. Tear gas was also used, causing distress and difficulty breathing for the protester.

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After being kicked in the face, Mr. Huber hit me with a skateboard. He tried to grab my gun, so I shot him. When I saw Mr. Grosskreutz with his hands up, he lunged at me with a gun. I did not rerack my weapon.

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Representative Markwayne Mullin recounted a conversation with the police officer who fatally shot a woman at the Capitol on January 6th. Mullin stated he doesn't know for a fact, but he guarantees the officer had never used his weapon in that manner before and didn't want to. Mullin said the officer was physically and emotionally distraught after the event, and Mullin told him he did what he had to do. Mullin stated the officer's life has also changed because using lethal force for the first time never leaves you. He added the officer was doing his job because members were still in the balcony, and if someone presents a weapon and gives commands that are ignored, there is no choice but to discharge the weapon in self-defense or risk it being used against you and endangering others.

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On January 6, 2021, I, Inspector Thomas Lloyd, signaled the less lethal team to engage election theft protesters. The team fired on the crowd without warning, knocking a man's hat off and then shooting another protester in the head. The protesters were not rioting. I continued to watch as another man was shot in the face. Moments later, a single shot hit a fourth, fifth, and sixth protester in the head, with fragments affecting those nearby. Then, Joshua Black became the seventh person shot in the head without warning; the projectile lodged in his cheek, leaving a scar. I observed everything. The weapon being used clearly had a warning sticker stating not to aim at the head due to the risk of blindness and death.

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I thought Huber would kill me if I didn't shoot. Pulling the trigger would stop him from being a threat. I can't say for sure if he would die.

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Speaker 0 describes a scene outside their front porch where a protester, a woman, blocked traffic with her car. She parked perpendicularly, and ICE had six or seven vehicles with multiple officers. The protester’s car blocked the road, preventing passage for the convoy. ICE officers yelled at her to move and then became aggressive, approaching her driver’s side door and attempting to open it. The woman then began to reverse as she appeared frightened. An officer leaned across in front of the vehicle and shot the woman point-blank in the face, with about three or four shots fired. The woman’s foot pressed the gas, she tried to escape, hit a telephone pole, and crashed into several cars. Speaker 0 notes there were perhaps only about 10 protesters, but many ICE agents and six to seven vehicles, each with multiple officers. The scene was dispersed yet extremely chaotic, and it seemed the ICE agents did not have a plan or were unprepared. The woman was slumped over in the car. A neighbor, who identified as a physician, offered to take vitals, ask for a heartbeat, and request CPR, but was told to back away and that medics were on the way, a process that took about fifteen minutes. In that interval, it’s implied she may have deceased, and no lifesaving measures were attempted. Speaker 1 asks about how the secretary of Homeland Security and the president characterized the incident, labeling it a domestic terrorist attack, a ramming attack, and an attempt to kill or run over ICE agents. Speaker 0 responds that this characterization is the only reason they are there, and they would prefer not to speak, but they believed the incident would be misconstrued as self-defense. They insist the event was totally preventable and absolutely unnecessary, distinguishing it from self-defense. Overall, the account presents a chaotic confrontation between a small group of protesters and a larger ICE presence, culminating in the shooting of a protester, followed by a delayed medical response, and a subsequent framing of the event by government officials as a domestic terrorist attack.

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During the incident, the speaker was inside the speaker's office when they heard a blast, possibly a gunshot. They discussed using something to clean it up. Meanwhile, someone on the ground was receiving CPR, but the authorities couldn't enter due to flash bangs being thrown into the crowd. The speaker realized they were wrong about the person causing problems and expressed hope for the injured person's survival. Another person in the crowd mentioned that this was the first casualty.

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Speaker 0 argues that “they are not here to cause safety in this city” and that “what they are doing is not to provide safety in America.” They claim those actions are “causing chaos and distrust,” and that such actions are “ripping families apart,” and “sowing chaos on our streets,” adding that in this case they are “quite literally killing people.” The speaker contends that the opposing side has already begun to frame the incident as an action of self-defense, and, after having seen the video themselves, states directly that this portrayal is “bullshit.” They insist that the situation does not reflect self-defense but rather that “this was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying, getting killed.”

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I heard shots, thought they were firecrackers. Someone yelled about a shooting. As an ER doctor, I helped a man with a head wound. Did CPR until the helicopter arrived. Only one person was shot. Evacuate.

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I warned about chemical munitions. The left and lethal team should start deploying. We need more munitions. They're shooting at their own people. We represent Blue Lives Matter, but they're attacking us. There were acts of violence that day, even against police officers. They started firing at us without provocation. It was a peaceful protest, but they used concussion grenades and pepper spray. They tear-gassed us. I can't breathe.

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I believed that if I had not acted, Joseph Rosenbaum would have taken my firearm and used it to kill me and potentially others.

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We saw a man with a rifle on a roof during a Trump rally. We alerted the police and Secret Service, but shots were fired before action was taken. The Secret Service shot and killed the man on the roof.

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We're addressing claims made by a witness in a recent story. This witness alleged our officer shot a suspect, Jalen Robinson, in the back as he was surrendering, but that's not what happened. Dashcam and body camera footage shows Robinson, who fled a traffic stop, turned and shot at our officer. The officer attempted to use a taser, but it was ineffective. Robinson shot the officer in the stomach. The released footage clearly shows Robinson facing the officer, pointing a handgun before the officer drew his weapon. The officer was hit but saved by his vest. Officers returned fire, hitting Robinson, who later died despite medical assistance. Our officers have the right to defend themselves. The Mississippi Bureau of Investigations (MBI) is now handling the case, gathering evidence and witness accounts, including from the witness who made the false claims. The officers involved are on paid leave pending the investigation.

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I see a pistol in his hand, different from my first encounter. Our feet were touching. His arm comes down with the pistol pointed at me, so I shoot him once. He's no longer a threat. Another person backs up with hands up. I notice a man with a pipe to my left and a large object to my right. I walk towards the police line to turn myself in. Translation: I saw a gun in his hand, different from before. Our feet were close. He pointed the gun at me, so I shot him once. He was no longer a threat. Another person backed away with hands up. I saw a man with a pipe on my left and a large object on my right. I walked towards the police to surrender.

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On January 6th, I was in the House chamber when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed by Lieutenant Byrd. She was seen as a threat, but it's unclear what her intentions were. Byrd yelled for her to stop, but she didn't listen. If this had happened during the 2020 riots, Byrd would have been indicted quickly. The events of January 6th were driven by lies.

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Councilman McDuffy and Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz were thanked by the speaker. The speaker then shared that they were present when someone was shot and could have identified the person if they knew them. The police officer responded, stating that the speaker didn't even realize the person was shot and reassured them that the individual likely didn't experience physical pain.

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There was a shooting near 27th and Wisconsin on Wednesday. Gunshots were exchanged, and a man with a long gun was seen on camera. I returned gunfire and was fatally struck at the scene. Unfortunately, I managed to injure another officer before I died. Why does it matter if someone is gay or trans? Everyone is quick to judge my nephew without knowing what he was going through. This doesn't excuse my actions, but I was a good person. It's unbelievable how white men can commit mass shootings and walk away, while I was killed. People are joking about my shooting skills, but I served in the army and could have killed many if I wanted to.

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I warned about chemical munitions and called for deployment. There's chaos as flashbangs are being used against us, and officers are shooting into their own crowd. We’re here to support Blue Lives Matter, but this is how we’re treated. A large crowd is approaching on High Street, and we need backup. There were violent acts that day, including brutal assaults on police officers. Our officers acted as necessary. However, if the police hadn’t used concussion grenades and pepper spray, the situation might have remained peaceful. We were standing close to them, and they initiated the violence without provocation. We’ve been tear-gassed.

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I have 30 years of experience in law enforcement, dealing with various situations like capturing homicide suspects and handling barricade situations. This incident was completely avoidable and mishandled right from the start. There were multiple chances to prevent it, but unfortunately, they were not taken. My main concern is the well-being of my fellow officers, who had to go through this unnecessary ordeal. It is disheartening that there was never an opportunity to stop this unfortunate chain of events.

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Brian Harpole - Groundbreaking Evidence From Charlie Kirk’s Head of Security | SRS #254
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The interview with Brian Harpole, longtime law enforcement veteran and head of Integrity Security Solutions, centers on the security detail that protected Charlie Kirk and the events surrounding Kirk’s assassination. Harpole describes a meticulous, unit-based protection culture where selection hinges on teamwork and character, not just combat skills. He details a rigorous, ongoing training pipeline—defensive tactics, emergency medicine, firearms, and etiquette—that culminates in a team-wide thumbs-up before any detail proceeds. The conversation emphasizes prevention over reaction, with every protector knowing their area of responsibility, maintaining close communication, and building trust through shared experience and faith. Harpole recounts his and the team’s prior operations, including high-risk deployments in Juarez and other volatile environments, to illustrate the depth of their field expertise. He explains how their approach blends real-time intelligence gathering, decentralized command, and a multi-layered perimeter, designed to detect and deter threats before they materialize. The discussion also covers the operational realities of protecting high-profile figures in open settings, such as open-air venues, where threats can arise from crowds, rooftops, and walk-ups. He stresses the need for legal compliance, coordination with local law enforcement, and the dangers of over-reliance on technology when legal boundaries or jurisdictional permissions limit capabilities. The dialogue shifts to a frank reflection on the days surrounding Kirk’s death, including the emotional toll on the protection team and the decision-making under pressure. Harpole walks through the timeline from arrival to the initial gunfire, the swift exfil and medical response, and the challenge of maintaining patient care while moving at high speed. He offers granular detail about on-site medical priorities, such as controlling bleeding and rapid extraction, and underscores the balance between treating a patient and preserving the crime scene for investigators. Throughout, he challenges sensationalist narratives and calls for transparency to restore public trust in institutions. A recurring theme is accountability and the broader broader debate about information disclosure. The guests critique media sensationalism and advocate for responsible transparency, FOIA requests, and accountable handling of security footage and investigative records. They question why certain security decisions, such as drone use or police support, were not executed or coordinated, and they urge authorities to share verifiable information to quell conspiracy theories. The interview closes with a plea for accuracy, a stance against unverified theories, and a reminder of the human cost for Charlie Kirk and his team.
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