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In this video, the speakers engage in a discussion covering a range of topics such as Israel, Palestine, the influence of the Jewish lobby in American politics, race, immigration, social media censorship, media bias, election fraud, and racial disparities. They express concerns about the actions of Israel and criticize the support it receives from conservatives. The speakers question mainstream narratives, highlight the importance of critical thinking, and advocate for mutual understanding and personal growth. It is important to note that the conversation contains offensive language and touches on controversial subjects. The main speaker, Nick Fuentes, denies being a white supremacist and emphasizes his belief in equality and respect for all races and backgrounds.

The discussion centers on Nick Fuentes drawing crowds and pressuring figures to debate him. A caller asks Charlie Kirk if he would ever debate Fuentes; Kirk replies, "I personally do not give a platform to bad faith actors," and adds, "I don't platform trolls" or debate with people who are not good faith actors. Fuentes counters that Kirk avoids debate to protect his donors and organization, arguing that "the mainstream avoidance of Nick Fuentes is a fear response." He cites audience metrics, noting Fuentes has "just a few 100,000 followers on Rumble" and last Friday's episode approached a million views. Fuentes says he is "presenting legitimate arguments and cogent opinions" and that he is "offering in good faith to debate you." He adds, "If forced to debate the merits of The US Israel relationship, that would be made plain" and claims "his opinion on Israel is colored by his donors."

Speaker 0 claims that someone tells edgy jokes about the holocaust and cookies to appear cool. Speaker 0 says that the next step is to declare oneself the true conservative, not a "bunch of masturbating losers who live in your mother's basement." Speaker 1 states that someone was making holocaust jokes. Speaker 1 asks if Nick Fuentes, described as a "weird little gay kid in his basement in Chicago," is participating in a super PAC to bump off Joe Kent.

Speaker 0 discusses being accused in DMs of turning their space into an Israeli Jew space, noting a poll they put up where listeners guess the Jewish proportion, with guesses around 50-99% Jewish. They acknowledge that Truth and they themselves are not Jewish, yet point out that a group making up 2% of America and 0.2% of the planet is “a lot of them up here at the moment.” They attempt a divided calculation on how many Jews are in the space today, suggesting 38.2% of Jews while only 2% Jews overall, calling the resulting discrepancy a 9.2 difference and labeling these patterns as antisemitic. They urge others not to listen to a particular person in their space who they allege is antisemitic. The speaker then accuses others of trying to “figure out who the Jews are,” and says “Nazis are,” claiming to be someone who researches how many Jews are in things. They reference Sarah, saying she dislikes when the speaker brings up facts, data, or discussions about JFK, questioning why it matters who killed JFK and arguing it doesn’t matter who did 9/11 or the USS attacks, and stating “What if it was a Jews? What does that change? Nothing.” There’s a call to mute others, and an accusation that the audience will mute the speaker. The speaker mentions posting their DNA and receiving death threats “literally from Jews almost daily,” remarking on its repetitiveness and rarity for a reel. They reference “the third reel you’re not allowed to talk about” and question why the media or politicians won’t discuss it. The speaker introduces themselves as Isaac and someone named Shane, and asks whether the reaction might be connected to “the narcissism, schizophrenia, paranoia that runs rampant amongst the Jewish community.” They claim they can only talk on spaces and are frustrated that they’re not allowed to discuss Jews, asserting that the audience doesn’t realize they’re effectively arguing their own point. They conclude with a push to let them talk about how many Jews there are.

The discussion centers on Nick Fuentes drawing large audiences and the perceived reluctance of Charlie Kirk to debate him. "A caller actually lied his way onto Charlie Kirk's show this last week and asked him why he won't debate Nick Fuentes." Charlie stated, "I personally do not give a platform to bad faith actors," "I don't platform trolls," and "I don't debate with people that are not good faith actors." The segment argues jealousy and donor influence, noting "They blame the Jews" and that "the opinion on Israel is colored by his donors." It highlights Fuentes's reach: "Nick Fuentes has just a few 100,000 followers on Rumble, not even on YouTube," with "in just twenty four hours, this Friday's episode was pushing 400,000 views. Last Friday's episode is getting close to a million." The piece concludes that "the mainstream avoidance of Nick Fuentes is a fear response."

Nick Fuentes discusses being enemy number one to the government, citing being on the no-fly list and having bank accounts frozen. He says questioning the Israel lobby in 2017 led to backlash. He describes being blacklisted by conservatives and social media censorship, including being banned from platforms and banks due to "reputational risk." Fuentes says he was a libertarian neocon in his youth, consuming Breitbart and Prager University content. He gets his information from the New York Times, Axios, and Twitter, using background knowledge to discern truth from propaganda. He acknowledges biases but tries to be objective. He addresses accusations of antisemitism, attributing them to political correctness. He admits to "baiting" early in his career to break through censorship. Fuentes wants America to be more Christian, specifically Catholic, and more white and European. He questions when enough immigration is enough, citing assimilation concerns. He believes the 2016 and 2020 elections were referendums on America's identity. He says individual actions determine right and wrong, criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza. He claims the Israeli government's actions stem from not being Christian. Fuentes denies being a white supremacist but believes race is real. He says Jewish people are influential due to tribalism, not just IQ. He says they are allowed to work as a team in an open system. He questions their loyalty to America, citing loyalty to Israel. He says they had a long-term relationship with the US, but it is dubious how much they benefit the US. He says they are playing a very long game and have influence in many capitals. He says they are a country, we're a country, they have a distinct national interest, they're threatened by us, and we should be threatened by them. Fuentes says third-party journalists are not allowed in Israel, which is a red flag. He says if everything is what someone says it is, then why are certain third-party publications not allowed to go and report? He says it's hard to make the conclusion that something bad isn't happening or something wrong isn't happening with that being true. Fuentes says he got in contact with Ye after the DEFCON 3 tweet. He went to Mar-a-Lago with Ye, who asked Trump to be his VP. He says Trump lost his mind and said Ye could never win. He says Ye is a good man who loves everybody but is getting screwed over. He says he wants to move on, but they won't let him move forward unless he apologizes. Fuentes says he would consider being in politics, but they're gonna throw everything he's ever said in his face. He says he's not a hateful guy, but he makes jokes about black people, Polish people, Mexicans, you name it. He says he doesn't think there's any constituency. Fuentes says he hates working out because it hurts. He says the gym bro culture is so vain. He says people should work out, but some people take it a little too far. Fuentes says after the election, he got really viral, because he said, Your body, my choice. He says everybody posted his home address, his phone number, and so people started just coming to his house. He says a kid came to his house with a gun and a crossbow and killed his dogs. He says he thinks it had to do with that tweet. He says now he has security at his place. Fuentes says he's not a really social person. He reads a lot. He plays video games. He says he's a big gamer. He says he plays, like, map games, like Civilization V and Call of War. He says he's a big fan of Joseph Stalin. He says he wants to understand life. Fuentes says he's definitely a Big Mac guy. He says everything about UFOs comes from the DOD. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says there's no aliens. He says if there's aliens, we don't know about them. He says some people say aliens are demons. He says everything that we know about them or learn about them literally comes from the Department of Defense and the Pentagon, all these disclosures. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says he's not a Nordic, that's for sure. He says he's a gray. Fuentes says he's not a really social person. He reads a lot. He plays video games. He says he's a big gamer. He says he plays, like, map games, like Civilization V and Call of War. He says he's a big fan of Joseph Stalin. He says he wants to understand life. Fuentes says he's definitely a Big Mac guy. He says everything about UFOs comes from the DOD. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says there's no aliens. He says if there's aliens, we don't know about them. He says some people say aliens are demons. He says everything that we know about them or learn about them literally comes from the Department of Defense and the Pentagon, all these disclosures. He says he thinks it's a big SIOP. He says he doesn't think there's any aliens here. Fuentes says he's not a Nordic, that's for sure. He says he's a gray. Fuentes says he had never heard from Nelk before, but he woke up at 2 PM, and his phone's blowing up. He says they said, Oh, Nelk wants you to come on the show. He says that's how he heard about it. He says they said, Yeah, we want your reaction to the to the interview. He says he washed his face, he got on, and he thinks they they were getting a lot of shit for that. He says they were getting a lot of blowback. He says they were looking for the other side to come on and kinda tell them, you know, that what they did was okay, or it wasn't that bad. He says that he was, like, the counterweight, which is kinda funny to think about. He says it's kinda funny that they bring on Netanyahu and they think, we need to hear from the other side. He says, Let's get Nick Fuentes, which is like prime minister of Israel, like livestreamer. He says that that's the two. Fuentes says he agrees with the host, and he said that to them. He says, Like, obviously, you're gonna take it. He says, Because as a content creator, it's like you say, it's gonna be a big interview. He says, But the thing is, when it comes to pushback, it's just doing your due diligence. He says, You're acting almost on behalf of the audience and saying, what would the audience say? He says, What would a skeptical mind say in this circumstance? He says, And he told them, the only way to make it right, or the way to make it fair, is you gotta interview the other side. He says, If your goal is we're gonna hear everybody out, gonna hear out Netanyahu, we're not gonna give a ton of pushback, okay. He says, But unless you interview the other side, then it's propaganda. He says, So you gotta interview the pro Palestine side, whatever. Fuentes says he doesn't wanna say it, but he heard that they got hooked up with somebody who's pro Palestine. He says that's fitting, because it's an Israel Palestine war. He says, But even an America first person, even someone like Tucker for that matter, who is up with a similar stature to Netanyahu in terms of notoriety. He says, Or you. He says, Or me. He says, But he doesn't wanna be a shameless self advocate. He says, They should talk to me. Fuentes says he didn't watch the whole interview. He says it was just clips.

Speaker labels Nick a fraud who doesn’t care about stopping Israel and suggests he recently got 'the call.' He asks whether Nick has ever urged a boycott, shown a BDS list, called to vote against Zionist politicians, funded Gaza aid, or organized his audience against Israel, and finds nothing. He claims Nick is 'a pressure valve for critics of Israel' rather than an organizer, noting Nick 'spews rhetoric' and clout-chases against pro-Israel conservatives. The speaker recalls Nick’s statement: 'The whole world is turned against Israel, and yet they're able to keep doing what they do. And the reason why is because they are more organized, more sullied than any other group.' He argues Nick has never organized his audience meaningfully, cites the Charlie Kirk shooting, and Nick’s dismissal of the 'Israel theory' as suspicious amid fan-talk connections with Ben Shapiro. He questions Nick’s motives, suggests he’s been co-opted, and plugs Substack with 'free Palestine.'

The speaker believes they are being targeted due to their increasing popularity and claims Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson are colluding in a "hit job" against them. They assert that such attacks will only make them a martyr. The speaker criticizes Tucker Carlson for being out of touch and derisive towards working-class Americans, particularly those who disagree with him. They question Carlson's authenticity as a champion of white males and accuse him of hypocrisy. The speaker contrasts their own background with Carlson's, emphasizing their "real American stock" and involvement in domestic issues. They reject inclusive populism and accuse Carlson of being a "modern Bill Buckley" but less intelligent. The speaker challenges Carlson to have them on his show instead of gossiping. They express disgust for those in politics with privileged backgrounds and accuse Carlson of being "filth." They describe a scenario where J.D. Vance corrals "loser anti-Semites and racists" into a "CIA plantation" to fight a war with China while Israel benefits.

The speakers discuss the ethnic and religious backgrounds of individuals involved in technocracy, Palantir, and crypto, with a focus on Jewish people. One speaker accuses the other of deflecting from the "actual problem" by not acknowledging the role of Jewish individuals in these areas and in what they claim is the oppression of white and Black people. They claim that Jewish people control media, academia, and politics, fund anti-white policies, and benefit disproportionately from the current system. The speaker questions why Black people are unaware of these alleged facts. The other speaker denies downplaying the role of Jewish people, but is challenged for only having one post mentioning Jewish people. The first speaker accuses the second of lying or being subversive for not acknowledging a "common problem."

Nick Fuentes is described as a terrible person who is dishonest. He is seen as a leader for disaffected young white men who are victims of the economy and desperate, but he is allegedly acting against their interests. The speaker identifies as one of these disaffected white people, having been "red pilled" by Trump and punished for asking questions about Israel. He claims he was targeted by various groups, including the ADL and SPLC, for his views. The speaker questions the criticism of Fuentes' lifestyle, such as living in a basement in Chicago, and relates it to broader economic problems. He contrasts his own background, including his working-class roots and family struggles, with the perception of inauthenticity. He asserts that he, not others, is a true spokesman for the disaffected white man and that his story is the American story.

One speaker believes people should be allowed to have differing views on immigration and debate the merits of the Israeli lobby's power. However, Pat Buchanan discredits this conversation because he gives the sense that he has another agenda related to personal dislike, conspiracies, and the belief that Jews are a sinister force trying to affect American politics. Another speaker questions if a certain individual exclusively targets people in the same group and makes Holocaust jokes. This speaker suggests this individual is like David Duke, who would endorse their shows. They believe David Duke is part of a campaign to discredit people on the right, and that Nick Fuentes is doing the same. They clarify that this doesn't mean everything he says is false, that he isn't talented, or that he's a bad person, but that he is clearly part of a campaign to discredit non-crazy right voices.

Speaker 0 contrasts what is happening with a reference to Looney Tunes and uses that imagery to support a point about antisemitism accusations. They claim that some people who are accused of antisemitism are indeed antisemitic, describing them as “smart people asking questions like me,” while others who have been kicked out of Daily Wire are “just crazy.” They invoke Ben Shapiro to support their view, saying the situation proves he was right about these dynamics. They label a certain person as a “faux sophisticate,” agreeing that this label nails the situation. The speaker emphasizes that the idea of someone being an “antisemite” can be connected to what they view as a pattern or pattern-matching of behavior, and they repeat the phrase “A faux sophisticate” to underscore this point. Speaker 1 expands the discussion to the far right and Charlie Kirk, noting that there were plenty of people on the far right who disliked Charlie. They mention Gruyper groups (referred to as Gruyper’s) and state that they literally declared a “Gruyper war on Charlie Kirk,” arguing that he wasn’t radical enough for them and that this intolerance reflected a demand for more extreme rhetoric. The speaker reiterates a point they had previously made to Bill Maher, describing how the identification of Charlie Kirk as hateful fits into a broader framework. They pose a question about whether the Gripers could be the source of any negative assessment, suggesting that the opposite claim—that the Gripers were responsible—could theoretically be possible, though they consider it unlikely. The speaker then explains the evidence they cited: contemporaneous conversations the shooter had with family in which they called Kirk hateful. They argue that this shows that Kirk being labeled “hateful” is part of a left-wing matrix of thinking, and they articulate the idea of a “griper matrix” that asserts that Charlie Kirk should have been more hateful toward Jews to be acceptable to them. The central thrust is that the Gripers’ expectations for greater hatefulness toward Jews would align with their approval, implying that if Kirk had exhibited more virulence toward Jews, he would have been more favored by that faction. Overall, the dialogue weaves together critiques of alleged antisemitism accusations, the behavior and labeling of Charlie Kirk by far-right groups, and the contention that certain factions on both sides frame acceptability in terms of extremity toward Jewish targets, using the shooter’s reported conversations as a focal point for claims about how Kirk is perceived.

The discussion centers on the ‘woke Reich,’ with complaints that the woke right mirrors the woke left and a call to fight back through influencers, TikTok and X, and to talk to Elon. A speaker proclaims: 'Anyone who opposes me... that person is a Nazi, part of the woke Reich, a Nazi,' and demands 'the only way to fix it is by preventing Americans in the last country on Earth with guaranteed freedom of speech' 'prevent Americans from hearing the other side.' He says 'we push congress to force a TikTok sale' and warns against censorship in the United States, noting 'the attack on the USS Liberty.' Another speaker extols Tucker Carlson's critique of Netanyahu, discusses 'the eighth front of the war' and censorship, and laments 'I am sick of Jew, Jew, Jew.' He urges moving beyond World War II paradigm and ends with a fundraising plug for alexjonesstore.com.

The dialogue centers on accusations and revelations about political operatives and influence campaigns. Key points include: - A list of individuals named as problematic figures: Jack Kosobiak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, and Laura Loomer. Gabe Hoffman is described as “running hops on people” and as “a bad guy,” with a claim that these people are “evil” and unregistered foreign agents that the speaker will be watching closely. - A claim of infiltration and surveillance: one speaker asserts that someone close to them was likely there to infiltrate, and that “these people” attempted to set up someone they know and love, with the speaker vowing to monitor everything they do. - Allegations of role in broader disruptive actions: one speaker says, “We conduct riots and color revolutions and, you know, steal elections, and we overthrow governments we don't like. And I was part of that.” - The origin of operational concepts: one speaker mentions IIA, describing it as social media psychological warfare that began in 2007. - A sense of punitive consequence and manipulation: another speaker states that “they’re all being punished because they thought that what those important people told them was gonna happen,” and recalls being present during a plan to trash the capital, noting a lack of preparedness and security knowledge. - Reactions to claims about being controlled: one speaker says it pisses them off that others claim they’re being handled, with another agreeing that such claims have been heard before. - A warning tone about danger and preparation: one speaker warns that it is “very dangerous” that people are out there giving others hope, describing “a storm coming like nothing you have ever seen,” and asserting that not a single person is prepared for it. - Personal and on-site context: there are mentions of returning to a site to get a burner phone and use ghost accounts, and of attempting to coordinate around Breva, indicating ongoing, weaponized online activity and counter-movement tactics. Overall, the speakers blend accusations of manipulation and clandestine influence with admissions of involvement in disruptive actions, interspersed with warnings of impending upheaval and calls for vigilance.

Speaker 0 says, "powerful institutions are at play here, and there's a coordinated effort to spread this parasitic ideology," and asks, "Are you willing to name the group behind us? Because behind all these institutions, there seems to be a Cohen, a Berg, a Stein." He then asks, "What are your thoughts on the Jewish influence about on gender ideology?" Speaker 1 replies, "So you're you're Am I gonna do anything about the Jews is what you're asking me? No." Okay. Do I need to dignify that with a further response, do think?" He adds, "Or And Jewish donors, they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits." "This is a beast created by secular Jews."

The speakers discuss Nick Fuentes, noting his talent for speaking and questioning his motives. They observe that Fuentes often targets sincere, non-hateful critics of neocon politics, such as J.D. Vance, Joe Kent, and Dave Smith. One speaker recounts Fuentes attacking him years ago by falsely claiming his father was in the CIA. The speakers speculate about Fuentes' funding and motivations, suggesting he may be part of a campaign to discredit credible right-wing voices. They compare him to David Duke, who would endorse figures to discredit them. They highlight Fuentes' involvement in efforts to undermine Joe Kent, a critic of neocon foreign policy. They suggest Fuentes' behavior may stem from insecurity or that he is intentionally deceiving people.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss contemporary conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk. They state they do not believe the theory that Jews killed Charlie Kirk and, as it stands right now, think it was Tyler Robinson. They both agree on this point regarding the alleged killer. Speaker 1 shifts to addressing Nick Fuentes, noting they weren’t going to come for him until he called Ian Carroll “retarded.” Ian Carroll allegedly appeared in a livestream pleading with Speaker 0 to join in on the conspiracy. Speaker 1 repeats the insult, saying, “If you think that I feel sorry for you because you are retarded.” They challenge the credibility of claims about a “furry trans lover” storyline, asserting that discord’s own statements say the furry trans motive screenshots didn’t come from their servers. The discussion moves to alleged forensic and investigative inconsistencies. They reference a father identifying his son from a grainy rooftop silhouette before police have real evidence, and claim that the FBI has four-k footage showing the shot but left that part out. They question the ballistic details: a .30-06 round, known for blowing through concrete blocks and obliterating bone, allegedly gets stopped by Charlie’s “Superman like neck.” They note the absence of visible ballistic mess or blood spatter and question how bulletproof the spine would be. They claim the rifle was “disassembled within seconds after taking the shot” yet was found “fully assembled in the woods.” They state that the shooter stuffs the rifle in his pants to jump off, which clashes with the rifle being recovered fully assembled. They express skepticism about the overall narrative, suggesting that Nick Fuentes may be paid off or had his career threatened over this issue, and conclude that whatever the truth is, it is “not a good look” for Nick Fuentes. In summary, the speakers reject the claim that Jews killed Charlie Kirk and attribute it to Tyler Robinson; they criticize Nick Fuentes for engaging with conspiratorial narratives, challenge the veracity of related forensic and anecdotal claims, highlight inconsistencies in timelines and weapon handling, and suggest possible financial or career motive implications, framing the situation as damaging for Nick Fuentes.

The transcript centers on a heated, interconnected discussion about Tucker Carlson, U.S. politics, and the perceived influence of Israel, the Israel lobby, and foreign interests on American public discourse. The participants volley accusations, defenses, and conspiracy theories, with several notable claims and counterclaims. - The opening segment portrays Tucker Carlson as a target of powerful actors. Speaker 0 argues that Netanyahu and others have labeled Carlson a problem, suggesting that calling him a “fox in a henhouse” is a veiled call for violence and censorship. They warn that such rhetoric could provoke political suppression or harm toward Carlson, and they reference debates over whether Carlson’s anti-war stance and Iran policy have drawn attacks from prominent Israel-first voices. - The conversation shifts to alleged political interference and investigations. Speaker 0 references Kash Patel and a mid-September claim that Patel confronted J. D. Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and others about an investigation, asserting Patel was told not to involve certain intelligence matters or foreign involvement in domestic issues. They describe “the Israel lobby literally run by Netanyahu” as attacking Carlson and pressing to “neutralize” him. There is also a claim that Democrats celebrated or advocated harm against Charlie Kirk and that “six trainees” in a town suggested Kirk would be dead the next day, though no evidence is presented for these claims. - Speaker 1 introduces a harsh critique of Carlson, saying he is “the most dangerous anti-Semite in America,” accusing him of aligning with those who celebrate Nazis, defend Hamas, and criticize Trump for stopping Iran’s nuclear ambitions. The comment emphasizes that Carlson is not MAGA, and asserts a leadership role for Carlson in a modern-day Hitler youth narrative. - The dialogue between Speakers 0 and 2 (Adam King) delves into broader political positioning. Adam King says Carlson “left MAGA,” that MAGA is a big tent whereas Carlson seeks a smaller, more controlled sphere, and that Carlson is working against the Trump agenda by attempting to influence 2028 considerations. Speaker 0 counters, arguing Tucker covers a wide range of topics and remains central to the movement, not simply fixated on Israel. - There is debate about the influence of Jewish voters and donors on the 2024 campaign, with back-and-forth estimates of Jewish contributions and skepticism about the degree to which Jews will back Vance or other candidates. The participants discuss antisemitism accusations, censorship, and the difficulty of debating these topics. They criticize the idea of labeling people antisemitic as a manipulation tactic and urge more open dialogue. - The dialogue touches on the media landscape and the limits of speaking on both sides. Adam King argues for more balanced dialogue and warns that the current rhetoric—terms like “neutralize”—fuels violence. He expresses concern about online harassment of Jews and the normalization of violent language in political discourse. - There are tangential conversations about foreign influence in U.S. affairs. Adam King mentions Qatar, the World Economic Forum (WEF), and other foreign money; he cites a Newsmax report about Mamdani’s foreign funding and discusses debates over whether Qatar has a U.S. airbase or is primarily involved in training programs. The participants debate where influence truly lies, whether with Soros, the left, or other actors. - The segment ends with a mix of promotional content and entertainment, including a satirical insert about Ultra Methylene Red, a product advertised with claims about cognitive and physiological benefits, followed by fictional, humor-laden banter about “Batman” and “the Riddler” reacting to the product. In sum, the transcript captures a multi-faceted, contentious exchange over Carlson’s position in the MAGA movement, accusations of antisemitism and censorship, perceived foreign influence in U.S. politics, and the tensions within the right-wing ecosystem, all interwoven with promotional and humorous interludes.

Jonathan asks for commentary on Nick Fuentes, what countermeasures are effective, and what the government’s role should be in being critical of such a platform. The respondent explains that Nick Fuentes’ second name is Joseph, and that Fuentes is a Hispanic person described as an open, unapologetic racist, homophobe, and anti-Semite. He notes that Fuentes has been incredibly effective at spreading his message thanks to X and social media, which act as super spreaders of anti-Semitism and hate, making Fuentes like patient zero. He points out that it didn’t help when former President Trump had Fuentes over for dinner at Mar-a-Lago, and he criticizes those in power who don’t renounce Fuentes. JD Vance has done so, but the current right faces a challenge with elevated bad voices like Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens, while there are good voices on the right such as Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, and Mark Levin who push back on figures like Speaker Johnson and the revolting lunatics. To defeat rising anti-Semitism on the right, he believes it must come from the right; to defeat rising anti-Zionism on the left, it must come from people on the left. At AADL, the goal is to provide data and tools and to operate behind the scenes rather than publicly targeting Fuentes or Hassan Piker; the speaker even calls Hassan Piker “Hamas Piker” and notes his large platform on Twitch, Steam, YouTube, and Instagram. The speaker emphasizes working to get platforms to enforce terms of service to pull down the most offensive hate speech, or compel action from the platforms. However, he also stresses the need for people on the right to take down figures like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, and for people on the left to support similar efforts. The second speaker adds that in a sermon about the nuance of every human being, they did not mean Nick Fuentes.

Pat Buchanan raises important issues, such as American military sovereignty, but does so in a way that discredits them. When attacked, Buchanan claims a cabal controls American politics and dislikes him for speaking truth to power, casting himself as a victim. While questioning America's relationship with Israel and criticizing its lobby are valid, Buchanan is labeled antisemitic due to his relentless focus on topics related to Judaism. He attacks Goldman Sachs but not Morgan Stanley, and while he hasn't explicitly stated dislike for Jews, he has defended accused Nazi war criminals, attacked Israel, criticized American Jews for supporting Israel, and implied they push America into wars. There is a pattern of Buchanan needling the Jews, which suggests thematic antisemitism. Buchanan discredits conversations about immigration and the Israeli lobby by giving the sense that he has another agenda, believes in conspiracies, and thinks Jews are a sinister force trying to affect American politics.