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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss an incident where a person named Ray Epps repeatedly urged them and others to go into the capital building. Speaker 1 recalls encountering Epps on January 5th during a protest outside BLM Plaza. Epps followed Speaker 1 and began instructing the crowd, famously saying they should go into the capital the next day. Speaker 0 also expresses readiness to go into the capital. Speaker 1 questions whether Epps was part of a scripted plan or an undercover agent inciting violence. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 emphasizing the need to go to the capital where their problems lie.

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What needs to be established is whether the FBI and government agents used undercover operatives on January 6th. If evidence shows they had informants, it undermines the insurrection narrative. There’s reasonable suspicion of federal involvement, especially with video evidence of a person directing people into the building and the case of Ray Epps, who was briefly on the FBI's most wanted list. Two significant points support this: Epps’ sudden removal from the list suggests he may have been an informant, and FBI official Jill Sanborn's refusal to answer whether federal agents were involved indicates possible involvement. Her silence implies that confirming their presence could compromise ongoing operations.

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During a hearing, a congressman questions FBI Director Ray about the FBI's involvement in the events leading up to and on January 6th. The congressman asks if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th, but Director Ray avoids giving a direct answer. The congressman also mentions evidence suggesting FBI informants attended the "Stop the Steal" rally on January 6th. Director Ray denies that the violence on January 6th was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The congressman then brings up two white buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th, suggesting they were filled with FBI informants disguised as Trump supporters. The congressman's time is cut short, and the hearing continues.

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Democrats say we need to find out exactly what happened on January 6, and actually we strongly agree with that. Thomas Massey of Kentucky confronted Merrick Garland with footage of a man called Ray Epps, who apparently lives in Arizona. Epps was in Washington the night before, January 5, encouraging Trump supporters to enter the Capitol Building illegally. "Here's a guy telling Trump supporters they need to break the law and go into the capital. That's real video." "And then they accuse him of being an undercover federal agent. That's pretty interesting." Massey asked, "Has he been indicted? Who or where is he exactly?" Garland refused to answer, saying he would not comment on an ongoing investigation or "how many federal operatives were there in the crowd that day." We don't know whether this Epps guy was working with the federal government. A Revolver News piece notes the FBI removed a photo of Epps from its most wanted page after their reporting; it says "Ray Epps is everywhere" on Jan 6, and "twenty seconds before the very first breach" he whispers. The FBI scrubbed Epps' face a day after Revolver reported on Rhodes; the host calls it "awfully weird" and invites Epps to appear.

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The video explores the question of whether undercover agents or assets for the federal government played a role in agitating people to enter the Capitol on January 6th. The focus is on a man named Ray Epps, who was captured on video encouraging protesters to go into the Capitol. The video analyzes Epps' interactions with Baked Alaska, a livestreamer, and highlights Epps' repetitive phrases and unusual behavior. It also reveals a previously unseen conversation where Epps whispers, "storm the Capitol" to Baked Alaska. The video raises questions about Epps' possible involvement and the lack of attention given to his actions.

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The discussion centers on whether January 6 violence was an FBI operation. Speaker 0 denies that the violence at the Capitol was part of any operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. Speaker 1 asks if the FBI had an engagement with embedded agents; Speaker 0 repeats denial. Several speakers challenge the lack of answers about how many agents were present, suggesting informants were involved. Speaker 5 says "attorneys for the Proud Boys revealed at least 40 undercover informants were doing surveillance on the defendants that day, including 13 working in the DC Metro Police." Plainclothes MPD officers on Capitol Grounds are referenced. Speaker 6 says he provided high-definition video to lawmakers and accuses the FBI/DOJ of ignoring it; he describes an open window and an operative pulling it. Speaker 7 concludes: "it was the FBI and not Trump supporters who led the insurrection of the Capitol on January 6."

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In this video, there are discussions about the involvement of FBI agents and informants in the events of January 6th. Questions are raised about whether they committed crimes or encouraged violence. The focus then shifts to a man named Ray Epps, who was initially on the FBI's most wanted list but was later removed. The video also shows footage of individuals removing fences and discusses how easy it was for people to be drawn into the breach site. The brother of a man involved in the Capitol insurrection is interviewed, highlighting their political differences. There are also mentions of Antifa and questions about Speaker Pelosi's involvement. The video concludes with criticism of the January 6th committee's refusal to ask important questions.

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On January 5, 2021, Epps was seen in the crowd urging people to enter the Capitol, which led to the crowd chanting "fed." The behavior raised questions about his intentions. The following day, Epps was observed whispering to an individual, who then proceeded to forcibly tear down barricades. There are inquiries about whether Epps encouraged this action.

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During a hearing, a congressman questions FBI Director Ray about the FBI's involvement in the events leading up to and on January 6th. The congressman asks if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th, to which Director Ray avoids giving a direct answer. The congressman also mentions evidence suggesting FBI informants were present at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6th. Director Ray denies any FBI involvement in orchestrating violence. The congressman then brings up two buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th, claiming they were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. The chairman interrupts the congressman's questioning, and the congressman expresses frustration at not being allowed to finish his statement.

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We had full cooperation from the Capitol Police and the speaker's office, but we couldn't show that FBI agents were present in the crowd, which the FBI has admitted. Ray Epps was not a civilian; he encouraged violence, yet the January 6th committee defended him. There were clear signs of federal involvement, like individuals with earpieces breaking things and then fleeing. I didn't want to wrongly label anyone as an agent without proof. The recent Proud Boys trial revealed an FBI agent lied and hid evidence. We need crowdsourcing for the footage, which should be public. The narrative around January 6th has been misrepresented; it was a violent political demonstration, not a deadly insurrection. Intelligence about the event was withheld from Capitol Police, suggesting a deliberate attempt to create chaos for political gain.

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Discussion centers on the agent provocateur angle of January 6. They claim there were federal agents involved in instigating the violence and entering the Capitol, and that "this one guy" has faced no legal consequences while others face "massive federal charges and four years plus in jail." They compare to the World Trade Organization riots in Seattle '99, saying "literal government agents went in wearing antifa outfits" to provoke violence and were released conveniently. They focus on "Ray Epps, the Fed protected provocateur who appears to have led the first January 6 attack on the US Capitol," referencing a Revolver article and a video. They debate whether he was initiated by government, radicalized and acting on his own, or a rogue agent; they note it shows intelligence agency problems. They worry about autocratic solutions and how social media exposes such cases; they end with "Red or black" and Ray Epps.

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- "Do you know who Ray Epps is, and where is he? And, is he sitting behind bars like some of these other, protesters who've been sitting there without bail for so long?" - "And what we need to know is whether or not that cooperation existed on January 5 and January 6 to get people to do things that they might otherwise not do, like enter the capital." - "We already know as a consequence of reporting in revolver.news and in re really, that was confirmed by the New York Times that there were people texting their handlers from the crowd in January 5 and January 6." - "Now we just need to know whether the folks being controlled by the federal government were, in fact, the very people that were doing the worst things on January 6."

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We had full cooperation from the Capitol Police and the speaker's office, but we couldn't show that FBI agents were in the crowd, which they admitted. Ray Epps was not just a civilian; he encouraged violence and was defended by the January 6th committee. There were clear signs of federal involvement, but I didn't want to wrongly accuse anyone without proof. Recent trials revealed FBI misconduct, including hiding evidence. We need to crowdsource the footage from January 6th, as it belongs to the public. The narrative of a violent insurrection is misleading; it was a political demonstration among many that year. Intelligence about the event was withheld from Capitol Police, suggesting a motive to create a politically damaging situation.

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Discussion centers on alleged agent provocateur involvement in January 6. Speakers describe a theory that "federal agents ... instigating the violence, instigating the entering into the capital," and point to "this one guy" who is isolated on video yet faced no legal consequences. They discuss "Ray Epps, the Fed protected provocateur who appears to have led the very first one six attack January 6 attack on The US capital," and contrast him with others prosecuted. They debate whether the provocateur acted under government direction, was radicalized, or acted independently as a psycho, noting "this guy's doing this, like, over and over again." They reference the World Trade Organization in Seattle as a precedent for provocateurs, and note "100,000 different cameras" enabled scrutiny. A concern is raised about "an autocratic government that controls all aspects of society so none of this ever happens."

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It's our constitutional duty to do oversight. He asks, "how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5 and January 6 and agitating in the crowd to go into the capital and how many went into the capital. Can you answer that now?" Speaker 1 replies, "I don't know the answer to that question." The exchange continues: "I don't know the answer to either of those questions. If there were any, I don't know how many." "You've had two years to find out." The discussion mentions Ray Epps: "yesterday, you indicted him. Isn't that a wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor?" and says, "you're sending grandmas to prison." It references a video claim: "the guy on video who's saying go into the capital," noting "10 videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor?" In discovery, "the Justice Department prosecutors provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking." "With respect to mister Epps, the FBI has said that he was not an employee or informant of the FBI." "Mister Epps has been charged, and there's a proceeding, I believe, going on today on that subject." "The charge is a joke."

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The speaker questions Director Wray about the FBI's involvement on January 6th. The speaker references a previous exchange where he asked if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th prior to the doors being opened. He claims Director Wray did not provide a definitive answer. The speaker states that Stephen D'Artano testified that he was aware FBI informants would attend the "Stop the Steal" rally. The speaker asks Wray to confirm the FBI had confidential human sources at the rally. Wray declines to comment on the use of confidential human sources. The speaker asks if an FBI informant marched to the Capitol with Proud Boys members on January 6th and communicated with his handler while people were entering the Capitol. Wray denies the violence at the Capitol was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The speaker then asks if Wray is familiar with "ghost vehicles" or "ghost buses," claiming they are common in law enforcement and used for secret purposes. The speaker presents evidence of two white buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th, alleging they were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. He accuses Wray of deploying these informants onto the Capitol on January 6th.

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The video explores the question of whether undercover agents or assets for the federal government played a role in instigating the events of January 6th. It focuses on Ray Epps, a man who has been accused of being a government informant and encouraging violence at the Capitol. The video presents evidence from various sources, including livestream footage, suggesting that Epps may have been acting suspiciously and repeating certain phrases to manipulate the crowd. However, it also acknowledges that there is no concrete proof of Epps' involvement as a confidential source. The lack of attention given to this story in the past is also highlighted.

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The speakers discuss the Capitol incident on January 6th and focus on a person named Ray Epps. Speaker 1 claims that Epps caused damage and was initially on the FBI's list of top twenty people involved. However, Epps allegedly used his contacts within the organization to remove himself from the list. Speaker 1 saw Epps on January 5th near the BLM Plaza in Washington DC, where there was a protest. Speaker 1 urges the FBI to investigate Epps further. Speaker 0 expresses skepticism towards the media and Speaker 1 offers to call them instead of providing a phone number. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 requesting a way to contact Speaker 1.

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During a hearing, a congressman questions FBI Director Ray about the FBI's involvement in the events leading up to and on January 6th. The congressman asks if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January 6th, but Director Ray does not provide a direct answer. The congressman also mentions evidence suggesting FBI informants attended the "Stop the Steal" rally on January 6th. Director Ray denies that the violence on January 6th was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The congressman then brings up two white buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th, suggesting they were filled with FBI informants disguised as Trump supporters. The congressman's time is cut short, and the hearing continues.

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The speaker questions Director Wray about the FBI's involvement on January 6th. They reference a previous exchange where Wray was asked if the FBI had confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol, to which Wray was hesitant to answer. The speaker claims the FBI had informants at the "Stop the Steal" rally and that an FBI informant marched to the Capitol with Proud Boys members on January 6th, communicating with their handler. Wray denies that the violence at the Capitol was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. The speaker then asks about "ghost buses," vehicles used for secret purposes, claiming that two such buses arrived at Union Station on January 6th, filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters. The speaker alleges these buses deployed people onto the Capitol on January 6th.

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Speaker 0: "What I'm saying is a reasonable suspicion is that there were agents. There's a video showing a guy with an earpiece pulling people into the building. Alright? Mhmm. You combine that with the evidence of Ray Epps, and it looks like you have a preponderance of evidence suggesting there may have been federal law enforcement involved in making that thing happen." Speaker 1: "I'll get you beyond a reasonable doubt. Two pieces of information. Ray Epps was on FBI's most wanted list one day, and the next day, he was off of the FBI's most wanted list. There are only two ways that happens. You die or your informant." Speaker 1: "Put that aside. Under congressional testimony, Jill Sanborn, who I used to work with, the head of the FBI counterintelligence division in charge of all these investigations, testified under oath when senator Cruz asked her, flat out, were there federal agents involved with January 6? And she said, quote, senator, I can't answer that at this time." Speaker 1: "The reason she said I can't answer that is because of the same stonewalling they gave us during Russergate with Christopher Steelehauper and everybody else. It's the same narrative, and and I'm telling you they were there." Speaker 0: "You're so you're saying that she said I can't answer that because the answer is yes Yeah. And that would compromise whatever their operation was. Exactly."

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if the FBI had any involvement with the violence at the Capitol on January 6th. Speaker 1 emphatically denies that the violence was orchestrated by FBI sources or agents. Speaker 0 then asks about "ghost buses," which are vehicles used for secret purposes in law enforcement. Speaker 1 is not familiar with the term. Speaker 0 claims that two buses that arrived at Union Station on January 6th were wiped clean and filled with FBI informants disguised as Trump supporters. Speaker 2 interrupts with a point of order, and the conversation becomes heated. The transcript ends with Speaker 0 expressing objection to his question being closed.

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There is reasonable suspicion that federal agents were involved in the January 6th events, supported by a video showing an individual with an earpiece directing people into the building. Additionally, Ray Epps was briefly on the FBI's most wanted list, raising questions about his status as either deceased or an informant. Under congressional testimony, Jill Sanborn, head of the FBI Counterintelligence Division, was asked about federal agents' involvement and stated she couldn't answer at that time. This evasiveness suggests a potential cover-up, as a definitive "no" would have been expected if there were no agents involved.

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We had cooperation from the Capitol Police and the speaker's office, but we couldn't show that FBI agents were in the crowd, which they admitted. Ray Epps was not just a civilian; he encouraged violence, yet the January 6th committee defended him. There were clear signs of federal involvement, but I didn't want to wrongly accuse anyone. The recent Proud Boys trial revealed an FBI agent lied and hid evidence, raising questions about their role. We need to crowdsource the footage, as it's publicly owned. The claims about January 6th being a violent insurrection are misleading; it was a political demonstration among many that year. Intelligence about potential violence was withheld from Capitol Police, suggesting a deliberate attempt to create chaos and discredit a political party.

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The speaker questions witnesses about the presence and activities of federal agents or assets during the January 6th Capitol riot. One witness states they do not know if any federal agents or assets were present on January 5th or 6th, whether they agitated the crowd, or whether any entered the Capitol. The speaker suggests this may be perjury, noting the witness has had two years to find out. The speaker also asks about confidential human sources and the erection of gallows, claiming FBI Director Wray and Attorney General Garland have stonewalled inquiries. Another witness confirms their report will include information about confidential human sources operating on Capitol grounds on January 6th, but cannot provide a number. The report is in draft form and requires classification review, making its release before the upcoming election unlikely. The report will address whether confidential human sources followed DOJ protocols and include information about travel reimbursements. The speaker expresses frustration with the delay and lack of transparency.
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