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The speaker discusses the spread of bird flu and the potential for mass culling of poultry. They mention the development of bird flu vaccines and the possibility of human-to-human transmission. The conversation also touches on the lack of human trials for vaccines and the FDA's approval process based on preclinical data. The focus is on the need for vaccination, particularly for farm workers.

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The speaker, who has been on the farm for three and a half months, aims to connect Canadian and South African farmers to discuss how South Africa avoided culling ostriches despite similar policies and past outbreaks. South Africa now exempts ostriches from culling, unlike Canada, where they're treated as poultry. The speaker believes culling all ostriches won't stop avian flu in chickens and is present to protect the birds. The speaker claims the RCMP are monitoring the farm, and they fear the Canadian Security establishment wants to remove the camp and media coverage to avoid scrutiny of the CFIA's stamping out policy. They state the birds haven't been tested, so there's no proof of infection. The speaker mentions Robert Kennedy has voiced his opposition to the culling. Transporting the birds to the US might offer protection, but the Canadian government and CFIA would likely oppose it. The speaker questions why the CFIA can move supposedly contaminated culled birds to a municipal dump, but not allow testing to prove infection. The speaker asserts the farmer would voluntarily cull infected birds.

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We have been studying epidemics for about forty years, particularly looking at the issue of legislation. Working with animals, such as chickens with bronchitis caused by coronavirus, has been somewhat simpler. Despite thirty years of trying various vaccines, we have not been able to control it effectively. So, why is it that we suddenly find a solution for humans when we have struggled to find one for the flu? How can we achieve this?

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I'm a chicken farmer, and here's the truth about egg prices. We consume billions of chickens annually. In 2023 alone, there were over 382 million egg-laying hens in the US. The bird flu is not the only issue. Large facilities often neglect their chickens. They don't provide essential vitamins and supplements, leading to disease and death. Instead of admitting neglect, every bird that dies is blamed on the bird flu. They're using it as an excuse to inflate prices. Don't be fooled.

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Bird flu may be a scam to push gain of function research in US labs. CDC confirmed it. The timing seems suspicious before the WHO meeting and elections. Michigan declared a bird flu emergency, leading to mass testing and culling of poultry. This could cause food shortages. However, bird flu can be treated in humans. The Global Vaccine Alliance calls it "disease x," which could create food insecurity and fear before the elections.

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The Biden administration should prioritize two key actions regarding bird flu. First, they need to increase testing availability, especially rapid home tests for farm workers and their families, to ensure we are aware of the virus's presence. Second, there is an existing vaccine for H5N1 that has not yet been authorized by the FDA. The administration should expedite this process to distribute the vaccine to farm workers and vulnerable populations. The urgency is heightened by uncertainty about future actions from the Trump administration, which could affect testing and vaccine authorization. Bird flu has a high mortality rate, particularly in vulnerable groups, making it crucial to prevent its spread and mutations.

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H5N1 bird flu poses a significant threat, yet there's pressure to take an experimental vaccine for a virus that hasn't mutated to infect humans. Experts warn that administering such vaccines during a pandemic can accelerate mutations, potentially allowing viruses to jump to humans. Historical data shows that vaccines often fail to predict mutations accurately, leading to increased health issues for those who receive them. There are concerns about the origins of these viruses, with suggestions that they may have been weaponized in labs. The narrative seems aimed at creating fear and confusion, relying on public ignorance. It's crucial for experts to speak out on these matters.

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"They've obviously developed some type of natural immunity because they're not clinically sick." "The worry is the virus can mutate, become even more pathogenic, cause much more disease." "Their solution? Just kill them all, wipe it out." "But it's now in the wild bird population." "How is it that you know we can wipe out all these big healthy birds on a farm and somehow think we're going to control that disease?" "Destroy the birds, you destroy the science." "Cruelty to animals, it violates the criminal code of Canada." "Couldn't the ostriches just been quarantined where they are, it's a very isolated spot, repeatedly tested for the avian flu?" "Why can there not be some type of flexibility?" "Risk science it's here. Too bad all your birds are gonna die." "In my opinion, yeah there really could have been and should have been and should be."

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Dr. Cardcaine, an epidemiologist from the University of Michigan, is identified as the person who broke the story in February about a bird flu outbreak linked to the USDA research lab. He states that mainstream media are not reporting on this development. He also asserts that Peter Hotez will not tell the public about this information. According to the speaker, the current strain of bird flu in this outbreak was created in a lab through serial passage conducted in a U.S. government laboratory. The claim specifies that this lab-driven process enabled the virus to jump from traditional chickens to migratory waterfowl. From there, the outbreak purportedly spread to cows, marking a transition from poultry to other species in the ecosystem. The narrative presented emphasizes that the origin and progression of the outbreak are laboratory-generated, rather than arising solely from natural spillover events. The speaker highlights that the virus was manipulated via serial passage in a government lab, a technique used to adapt pathogens to new hosts or improve transmissibility. The sequence described claims a progression: initial adaptation in poultry, transmission to migratory waterfowl, and subsequent appearance in cattle. The speaker underscores two supplementary points: first, that major media outlets have not reported on this angle of the outbreak; second, that a well-known public figure in the field, Peter Hotez, is portrayed as someone who would supposedly not disclose this information. The overall message portrays a narrative of concealment and laboratory involvement in the emergence and spread of the bird flu across species, culminating in its presence in cows. In summary, the speaker attributes the outbreak to deliberate laboratory manipulation via serial passage in a U.S. government facility, tracing a path from chickens to migratory waterfowl and then to cows, while accusing mainstream media of omission and suggesting that Peter Hotez would not disclose these details.

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The Biden administration should focus on two key actions regarding bird flu. First, they need to increase testing availability, providing rapid home tests to farm workers and their families, rather than relying solely on public labs. Second, they should expedite the FDA authorization of an already developed vaccine for H5N1, as nearly 5 million doses are ready for distribution. This is crucial, especially considering the potential for the incoming administration to adopt anti-vaccine stances, which could hinder both testing and vaccination efforts. The World Health Organization indicates that bird flu has a high mortality rate, particularly concerning for vulnerable populations. Therefore, proactive measures are essential to prevent further spread and mutations of the virus.

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Birds don't get flu. Birds do not get influenza. Birds can get sick, but they haven't got flu, and it's not contagious. So, the PCR test is a measure of nothing. It's fraud. So and they could make the birds sick in any number of ways just by treating them badly. If they overcrowd them, that will make them sick. If they stress them, that will make them sick. And if they then come in and test them, they can claim bird flu in the flock, then they can kill all the birds, and then they can say, oh, look. Bird flu is going around. It doesn't even exist because like I told you, birds don't get colds. Birds don't sneeze. Have you ever seen a bird coughing? And I wouldn't think monkeys get pox either. Really. They're hairy.

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Scientists are largely against culling flocks, suggesting instead that flocks should be isolated and therapeutics tested. They propose allowing the disease to run its course to identify birds with a genetic inclination for immunity, which should then be bred, similar to wild populations. The White House strategy is to repopulate farms that have been depopulated. 66 million chickens have been killed, which is why there is an egg crisis.

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It seems that bird flu, a gain-of-function strain, is causing concern. The strain possibly originated from the USDA Poultry Research Lab in Georgia. Former CDC director Redfield mentioned that manipulating the virus could make it transmissible to humans. Interestingly, the director of the lab has ties to the Gates Foundation. This raises questions about the origins and implications of the outbreak.

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There is a lack of knowledge and organization regarding infectious diseases in this country, leading to panic and unreasonable plans. The fear of a highly contagious and deadly virus like avian flu caused unnecessary concern. However, the speaker explains that the flu cannot cause the same level of mortality as it did in the past due to various reasons. The contagiousness of respiratory diseases is limited, with each patient infecting an average of two people. The exaggerated response to these diseases, resembling a nuclear threat, should be managed by medical professionals rather than government agencies.

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Peace River North MLA Jordan Keeley visited Universal Ostrich Farm, where the ostriches survived the avian flu. The CFIA and the federal government want to cull the birds, but the owners are fighting this in court. Keeley states the birds are flightless, stay inside their fences, and the government is letting wild birds spread the disease. Culling the ostriches won't solve the problem because wild birds will infect new ones. Keeley believes the government needs to stop wild birds from spreading viral diseases to other animals. He says it shouldn't cost the family farm money to fight this in court for healthy birds used for research. He concludes there is no reason for the birds to be culled.

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Bird flu could potentially lead to a pandemic that is much more severe than COVID-19. It's not a matter of if, but when this will happen. When bird flu infects humans, it has a high mortality rate, estimated between 25% and 50%. The situation becomes critical once the virus can attach to human receptors and spread from person to person. Given these factors, it is likely that we will face a bird flu pandemic in the future.

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The concerning issue is that the virus can infect multiple species, including pigs, which are often in close proximity to chickens and cows. This interaction raises the risk of a reassortment of viruses, potentially creating a new strain that combines the dangerous traits of H5N1 with the ability to spread between humans. Public health officials are particularly worried about this possibility due to the mixing of viruses in pigs. Although the current risk is considered low, the CDC emphasizes the need for vigilance as the situation could change.

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Someone states they are passionate after 34 years of caring for animals that live to 75 and have names. They ask that "Connor," "Ethan," and "Lulu" not be shot. They acknowledge there's a policy in place, but argue it's time for a change, suggesting a report indicating every bird looks healthy. Another person responds that going against the entire industry is not their decision, and that changing to a non-eradication approach requires a national conversation with the CFIA and the Canadian government. When asked how long it would take for an ostrich to die from sickness, the response is hours to days, depending on the disease. Someone counters that there have been no avian flu deaths on the farm in eight days. Another person states that the challenge is control versus eradication, because one diagnosis puts the entire population at risk, mandating destruction.

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Vet was not allowed to take blood, and let's go into the reason why. So the vet said that they said it doesn't matter if all of these animals remember this. If every one of these animals test negative, they're still to die. And the reason being is because of that international trade policy between the World Animal Health Organization and the World Health Organization, which takes the directives of the United Nations. Good morning, Tina. And then the the minute anybody that any animal has a positive test on a property for HPAI, avian influenza, all animals are to be destroyed to protect our

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Vaccinating birds with a leaky vaccine, one that doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, turns the flocks into mutation factories, teaching the organism how to mutate. This destabilizes the organism and makes it more likely to jump to animals. The speaker claims that all agency heads from NIH, CDC, and FDA advised against bird vaccination because it is dangerous for human beings.

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The avian flu outbreaks with what's called the stamping out policy or mandatory depopulation of flocks that have been infected. So this is really both scientifically and legally, I think, the right thing to do to reduce the risk, as as much as we can. A spokesperson for the farm said these birds have been healthy for, you know, more than two hundred days, that they're probably building immunity to avian flu, and therefore, not only should they not be culled, but we should actually be preserving these ostriches. When you hear that, what's your reaction? "Well, my reaction to that is that it's not really accurate." In ostriches, disease severity is based on how old the birds are, and these are all older birds. Older birds tend to not get very sick when they are infected with avian flu. So you can't really tell if the ostriches are sick just by looking at them. You also can't make the assumption that they're going to develop protective immunity against a reinfection because often these older ostriches that don't get very sick don't develop antibodies against the virus. So we actually don't really know if these birds do have protective immunity, if they had been infected before. We just have to assume that they could have been infected and they may still be infected. Alright. Well, with all the claims that are out there, it's

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Cows contribute about 5% of global emissions, primarily due to methane produced by gut bacteria. Vaccination could potentially eliminate these bacteria. In a recent discussion with Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology, concerns were raised about the current bird flu situation. Despite its long history, the urgency surrounding it seems disproportionate, especially since the mortality rate is low and it doesn’t spread easily among humans. There are fears that the government may exploit this situation to increase regulatory control over food supplies, similar to actions taken during the 2020 pandemic. Additionally, reducing meat consumption could significantly lower greenhouse gas emissions. Strategies like "meat patches" could be developed to create aversion to meat, promoting a shift towards more eco-friendly diets.

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Researchers have been working on making bird flu more contagious for humans through gain of function research. The virus mainly infects chickens and sometimes cattle. Chinese vaccination efforts in the 90s may have worsened the situation. The current strain, H5N1 avian influenza, has caused around 800-900 human cases with a high mortality rate in Southeast Asia. Recent US cases were easily treated. The virus is not a significant threat unless it starts spreading human to human. The recent strain may have originated from experiments on mallard ducks in Georgia, leading to its spread across states. The media has not questioned this spread caused by migratory waterfowl.

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If we ignore the problem of felons in the US, we'll face more issues like H5N2 bird flu. The alleged H5N, avian influenza, is available for sale on the BEI Resources website since 2016. The concern lies in gain of function research in labs, where the recipe to make bird flu highly infectious for humans is already known.

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All Your Coronavirus Questions Answered: Michael Greger, MD | Rich Roll Podcast

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Dr. Michael Greger, a nutrition expert and author of "How Not to Die" and "How Not to Diet," discusses his new book "How to Survive a Pandemic" and the current state of the coronavirus pandemic. Greger highlights his background in public health and infectious diseases, emphasizing that he has been warning about pandemics for over a decade. He notes that the leading candidate for the next pandemic is the H7N9 bird flu virus, which has a 40% fatality rate, significantly higher than COVID-19's 0.4%. Greger explains that pandemics are often caused by the intersection of humans and animals, particularly in live animal markets and industrial animal agriculture. He stresses that the conditions in concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs) create a breeding ground for viruses, exacerbating the potential for mutation and transmission. The overcrowding, stress, and unsanitary conditions in these facilities contribute to the emergence of virulent strains of influenza. He discusses the importance of reforming animal agriculture practices to mitigate future pandemics, including closing live animal markets and improving the treatment of domestic animals. Greger points out that the public health community has long called for a moratorium on factory farming due to the risks it poses for human health. The conversation shifts to the current pandemic response, where Greger criticizes the U.S. handling of COVID-19, noting that the country has the highest death toll compared to other nations. He emphasizes the need for social distancing, proper mask usage, and the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle to reduce the risk of severe illness from COVID-19. Greger also highlights the role of underlying health conditions, such as obesity and diabetes, in increasing the severity of COVID-19 outcomes. Greger advocates for a plant-based diet as a means to improve overall health and resilience against chronic diseases. He discusses the potential for vaccines and the challenges in achieving herd immunity, emphasizing that without a vaccine, herd immunity can only be achieved through mass infection, which carries significant risks. The discussion concludes with a focus on the importance of reliable information sources and the need for society to come together to address the pandemic. Greger encourages individuals to prioritize their health and the health of others by adopting healthier lifestyles and supporting systemic changes in food production.