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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

A partnership between Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Friends of Zion Museum led to an unprecedented visit, marking the first time Israel officially partnered with 1,000 strategic pastors to commission them as ambassadors to combat antisemitism and reach the youth of their generation. Dr. Mike Evans states that Israel's fight is not just on the battlefield, and that there is currently an ideological war that Israel's losing, so they need the evangelicals and the Zionists to fight an ideological war. One of the gathering's goals is to strengthen Christian support during a time of growing global antisemitism, with the message that the pulpit must speak louder than the propaganda. A speaker emphasizes that pastors should go to their pulpits to speak with clarity and boldness, pushing back on the antisemitism and bigotry directed toward Jewish people and toward the people of Israel. Another speaker notes that the pulpit has become quiet about these issues, and that cultural voices have spoken louder than pastors on these topics, making it motivating to return to the message of who Israel is to the Lord and to reaffirm Christians’ role in supporting and praying for Israel. There is a concern about a growing cancer within the evangelical movement in America, where people think Israel doesn’t matter and that nothing biblical supports the relationship to Israel, which is described as very dangerous. Ambassador Huckabee, a former pastor, warns of rising danger in the church, arguing that the idea that God will break His covenant or has broken His covenant with the Jewish people borders on blasphemy, because if God will break His covenant with the Jewish people, he questions what would prevent Him from breaking His covenant with Christians as well.

Israel is America's only true friend in the Middle East and should be supported. The speaker believes that God has a special covenant with Israel and that America should defend it against Iran. They emphasize that God has chosen Jerusalem as his dwelling place and that when the messiah comes, he will establish peace in the city. The speaker warns that if America stops supporting Israel, God will stop blessing the United States.

The speaker argues that online discourse on Israel is split into two extreme camps and that US politics mirrors this division, creating a harmful national distraction. To heal the relationship and conversation, four steps are proposed: 1) Global perspective: The United States is a 350,000,000-strong powerhouse; Israel is tiny with 9,000,000 people and few natural resources. The US has spent at least $30,000,000,000 defending Israel since 10/07/2023, and about $300,000,000,000 overall; two THAAD batteries in Israel represent a quarter of the world’s supply. Prominent claims: "The United States needs Israel" and "Israel could not survive without The United States." 2) Self-respect: stop being treated as a client state; cited incidents include Pollard and Israeli officers in the Pentagon; Netanyahu's "I control Donald Trump" remark. 3) Citizenship: end dual citizenship; APAC to register under FAIR. 4) Theology: reject Christian Zionism; "the chosen people in Christianity are those who choose Jesus."

A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. However, this support contradicts biblical predictions of the antichrist ruling from Israel. Jews await their messiah, who Christians believe will be the antichrist. This contradiction raises questions about the true identity of the messiah and the implications of supporting Israel.

Zionism, a political philosophy behind Israel, is distinct from Judaism. The founder, Theodor Herzl, was an atheist seeking a state for Jews. Zionism is labeled as satanic, imperialistic, and racist for displacing Palestinians through terrorism. The speaker urges the US to stop funding Israel and instead support the homeless domestically.

The speaker claims that the "Zionist occupation of Palestine that calls itself Israel" is built on lies and theft, having stolen the name "Israel." The name originates from the Old Testament, where Jacob was renamed Israel, and his descendants were the Israelites. Those who accepted covenants with God were part of the House of Israel, later the Christian Church established by Jesus. Rejecters of Jesus were the Jews, a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ. The speaker asserts that the true Israel is the Church, not a birthright or DNA privilege. Christian Zionists are deceived in believing today's Jews are still in covenant with God from the old covenant with Abraham. The speaker rejects Calvinist theology and predestination. In 1948, Zionists stole the name Israel to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews. Only religious fanatics in Puritan circles supported Zionism, misinterpreting scriptures. The speaker believes evangelicals are not Christians, the chosen people are not chosen, and Israel is not Israel. The true Israel is a spiritual fellowship of people with faith who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation is a Jewish military dictatorship that has fooled religious fanatics and the secular masses.

Christians should never wear the Star of David, a symbol the speaker says represents Israel and the false religion of Judaism, and Christians have been deceived into wearing it to show support for Israel; this is 100% wrong. The speaker claims there is no Old Testament example of King David discussing or wearing the Star of David, and that the idea it might be Solomon’s seal is false and not found in the Bible. The Star of David, they say, is found in the Kabbalah—Jewish mysticism and esoteric teachings that are contrary to the word of God. The Bible only shows a star used when Israel rejected God and worshiped other gods (Acts 7:43). Therefore, the coronation of Israel using a star is 100% appropriate, while a believer in Christ wearing it is 100% sinful.

Israel operates the most powerful lobby in Congress, demanding and receiving nearly $5 billion annually. Criticizing Israel is seen as anti-Semitic, making politicians afraid to speak out. The media, primarily controlled by Jews, manipulates information to discourage criticism of Israel. Elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel, unable to suggest an end to aid or protest Zionist control of Congress. The strong bond between America and Israel is primarily religious, with theological errors in Christianity blinding Christians to Israeli atrocities against Palestinians. Consequently, Israel and Israel First evangelicals are the main sources of strife and terrorism in the Middle East.

To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

Speaker 0 frames Kenneth Copeland with provocative claims: "I'm a rich Jew backed by a richer Jew. He made that airplane so cheap for me. I couldn't help but buy it." They add, "That is Kenneth Copeland" and ask, "Now do you know what him and the most evil people on the planet have in common? Everything." They cite new information: "a rich tiny hat club member and backed by a richer one" and "Israel is the only nation, the only country created by God." They ask, "Is this man a Christian? No. Is he pretending one and stealing Christian's money?" A Tommy g video allegedly shows Copeland "brags about giving millions of dollars to Israel and even gave tactical supplies to over half a million people in the IDF." The speaker warns, "It is individuals just like this that are destroying the Christian reputation" and notes, "The problem is they're not Christians. Obviously, he said it himself and he brags about what he actually is and where he gives his money to." "He steals your money, your resources from you and gives it to your enemy."

The speaker argues that “Christians evangelists here in America, which almost all of them are Republicans, they probably all gonna vote for Trump” and that they are “very poor Israel.” He says, without Christianity, the U.S. has little to do with Israel, noting “The only things they are helping us is because of religion reason.” He contends they’re “not doing it for us. They are doing it only for themselves.” He warns, “Make no mistake. They all believe that once we will go back to the holy land and JC Penny will show up to redeem the world, he will put us all to be burned in hell,” because “we've never accepted him, and we won't accept him.” He questions why “a lot of the people who made Aliyah, it's Christian money,” adding “They get hundreds of millions of dollars donation from them.” He says “the Messiah would come,” but “They just have the wrong identity of the Messiah. That's it. They believe that it's actually JC.” “They would dump all the Christian symbols you know well because it would be so obvious that it's all fake. Mhmm. Rabbi Thay”

"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" based on biblical interpretations. She argues that dispensationalism, a modern church teaching, incorrectly identifies the nation of Israel as still being God's chosen people. Referencing Matthew 21, she states that the kingdom of God was taken away from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. She cites Matthew 8, stating that many non-Jews will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the "subjects of the kingdom" (Jews) will be thrown into darkness. She asserts that earthly Jerusalem is no longer the Jerusalem of God, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem described in Revelation 21. Using Galatians 3, the speaker identifies Christ as the true seed of Abraham, and those baptized into Christ, regardless of ethnicity, as Abraham's seed and heirs. Therefore, prioritizing the state of Israel over Palestine is a distortion of scripture. She concludes that in Christ's eyes, a Palestinian who loves and is baptized in Jesus is more of a "real Jew" than a Jew who rejects Jesus.

Online discussion about Israel splits into two camps: pro- and anti-Jewish rhetoric, with few voices urging secular perspective. In the US, debate mirrors this, though Israel is geopolitically small and not critical to American security. The speaker offers four fixes: 1) Perspective: the US is a 350-million powerhouse; Israel 9 million with few resources. Two THAAD batteries, a quarter of world’s supply, are in Israel; since 10/07/2023 the US has spent at least $30 billion defending Israel; total aid to Israel about $300 billion; Egypt’s aid occurs at Israel’s request. 2) Self-respect: stop being bossed by a client state; Pollard, USS Liberty, Israeli officers; Netanyahu interference; Trump pushing back on annexation. 3) Citizenship: end dual citizenship; divest from foreign military service; APAC registration; disclose foreign influence. 4) Theology: Christianity’s universal message; critique of support for Israel as heresy; the chosen are those who choose Jesus; warns against using religion to justify killing innocents.

The transcript centers on a chaotic, on-the-ground interview set around a political event described as America First, with strong pro- and anti-Israel sentiments and tensions about free speech and enforcement. - Inside the event, Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss being kicked out and the mystery of why someone was trespassed. They question why they were removed, claiming they were curious about the treatment of the other person and asserting, “There’s no reason you’re getting kicked out.” - The speakers insist on the idea of free speech in America, contrasting it with what they see as limits on criticizing Israel. They reference Candace Owens’ planned appearance and note that Turning Point disavowed her views, stating the organization “does not sponsor her views” and that she’s “not an employee,” implying a hypocrisy in defending free speech while limiting critique of Israel. - There is a recurring theme that Israel is being criticized as a global issue, with claims that “Israel’s leadership be kissing our wall” and assertions that Israel is prosecuting a genocide in Gaza. They state numbers and condemnations, including claims that “they’ve killed 30,000 women and children,” and accuse Israel of using U.S. money and bombs. - The conversation shifts to Christian concerns, arguing that Christians are harmed by Israeli policy—citing that Israel vandalizes Christian churches, bomb Christians in Gaza, and bans the gospel. They argue that if Israel is the “holy land for Christians,” its actions contradict that claim, labeling the land “the devil’s land in Israel” and asserting that “they hate Jesus.” - The speakers discuss anti-Semitism laws, noting that Republicans in multiple states have backed anti-Semitism measures and that there are efforts in Congress and the Department of Education. They claim the definition of anti-Semitism has been broadened to prohibit statements like, for example, saying that Jews killed Jesus, referencing what they describe as the Passion narratives. - Personal beliefs and identity come into play, including an exchange about who should lead, with Speaker 0 saying Christians should be central, and Speaker 1 emphasizing that the country should be Christian and that “Christ is the king of the world,” advocating for Christian leadership in America. - The group comments on the ease of entry and exit from the event, noting that security is visible and that protesters are across the street in a designated protest area. They mention plans to possibly debate Charlie Kirk on the issue, and discuss the internal dynamics of the movement, criticizing figures like Brooke Rollins and JD Vance as part of a broader critique that “America First” has been undermined by insiders. - The conversation ends with plans to leave the scene, take photos, and reconnect with their driver, signaling a departure from the event after a brief appearance and confrontation. They reference future actions, including potential debates and continued protests, and acknowledge the frustration of the current situation.

The speaker expresses concern about the control that Israel has over the US government, both in terms of foreign and domestic policy. They mention that members of Congress often consider Israel's opinion when making important decisions. They also claim that Israel influences the media, commerce, and both houses of Congress. The speaker believes that this control will ultimately harm Israel. They emphasize that criticizing Israel does not make someone anti-Semitic. The speaker further criticizes the current state of America, where talk show hosts, despite their differing ideologies, all align on the issue of Israel due to its influence over the government, media, and finances.

The video argues that evangelical support for Israel in the United States largely stems from a late-19th-century theological system that crystallized around the Schofield Reference Bible. The Schofield Bible is portrayed as a Cliff’s Notes for the Bible used by Christian Zionists to justify support for Israel, even as Israel is described as committing violence against innocents and Christians. A central claim is that the Schofield Bible was funded by Wall Street elites and backed by early Zionists long before the state of Israel existed. Cyrus Scofield, the Bible’s namesake, is described as a controversial figure. He is labeled by evangelical standards as a scoundrel: a philanderer who abandoned his wife and two daughters, sued frequently for fraud, and served time in prison for forgery. He was ousted as district attorney in disgrace after lying about his Confederate military record. Despite this, he became a prominent Bible teacher and later a celebrated Christian convert, though the narrative notes he never publicly corrected the stories about his supposed Confederate bravery or his wartime decorations. Scofield’s early life is summarized: raised in Michigan after his mother’s early death, he moved with his sister to Tennessee, briefly joined the Confederate Army but requested to leave, and shifted into religious circles after moving to St. Louis, where he married Leontine, a Catholic of French descent. He did not convert to Catholicism and later complained about her Catholicism. He had two daughters and a son who died in infancy. His ascent into religious influence came despite questions about his schooling and integrity, aided by his sister’s connections which helped him win election to the Kansas legislature and later serve as the District Attorney for the District of Kansas (1873). Fraud accusations continued, including forgery, but he eventually was pardoned and rose as a biblical leader. Scofield’s conversion is linked to a business figure in a mythic account, and he moved to Dallas where he remarried to Hetty after leaving his first wife. His network extended into Dwight L. Moody’s revival circles and the Niagara Bible Conference in 1878, where a new dispensational theology emerged. This theology divides history into eras, with Israel slated for a pivotal future role and the belief that the world would not be converted during the current dispensation—the church would decline before Christ's return and the millennial age would begin with Israel restored to its land. This “Israel-centered” prophecy would become central to American Christianity, even though at the time there was no modern Israel (it would come in 1948). Scofield’s influence extended into elite circles: he joined the Lotto’s Club in New York City, a club of financiers and writers including figures like Mark Twain, Andrew Carnegie, JP Morgan, and Samuel Untermeyer, a Zionist heavyweight. It was through the Lotto’s Club that Untermeyer facilitated Scofield’s connection to Zionist goals and to publishers (Oxford Press) that issued the Schofield Bible. Scofield then traveled to England and reportedly to the Holy Land, though travel dates are uncertain. The Schofield Bible’s publication and widespread distribution—funded by Wall Street real estate magnates and Zionist elites—produced a widespread, enduring belief in a distinct Jewish track in Scripture and the idea that Israel should play a central role in end-times prophecy. The Bible significantly altered American Christianity by systemizing, funding, and distributing a dispensational theology with Israel at its core. The video closes by inviting viewer feedback on this history.

Speaker 0 argues that America’s economy is war-based and that those who plan it rely on Christians for support. Christian Zionists, by whatever name, are described as the primary enablers of serial wars, sanctions, and occupations of Islamic states. The question posed is why Christians support war when Jesus demanded peace, with the claim that they have been conditioned to see Islam as a threat. Christian Zionist leaders are accused of using themselves as propagandists against Islamic governments, including Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bosnia, Iran, and Sudan. The speaker’s purpose is to explain how this has been done and what can be changed, asserting that wars are an official economic policy of the U.S. government and that Christian Zionists are the only major faction supporting wars in places like Iraq. Responsibility for economic and social disasters, rising energy and food costs, is attributed largely to Christian Zionists, who are described as influential in presidential politics and as among our friends and relatives, requiring a constructive approach rather than ridicule. Speaker 0 states that Christian Zionism is a promoted religion that makes little sense on its own and is not believed for its logic. The claim is that endless wars erode morality and currency, citing Great Britain as an historical example. Christian Zionists are said to be swayed to support war as long as they believe Muslims are on the receiving end and Israel benefits. The speaker emphasizes not excusing Jewish war-making but asserts that for every Jewish Zionist, there are 10 or 20 Christian Zionists doing their work. Christian Zionists are accused of turning away from Jesus’ words, “blessed are the peacemakers,” and love of enemies, and the speaker asserts that followers who fail to stand for justice will be questioned. Speaker 1 adds that the Christian Bible demands peace, with “Blessed are the peacemakers” cited as a central, uncompromising message. They challenge pastors and religious leaders to find any line in the Bible permitting war or killing, concluding there is none. Speaker 0 notes that political change requires understanding the roots of Christian Zionism, mentioning that many who “Israel first” do not identify as Christian Zionists and may deny the label. Media figures at the apex of Christian Zionism—John Hagee, Ron Parsley, Pat Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell—are named as having expressed views that war against Islamic states is necessary, including war against Iran, and some advocate preemptive military action against Iran. Speaker 1 asserts that Christian Zionism is the only religion with war as a core principle, contrasting it with mainstream Christianity of 2,000 years. They question how to identify a Christian Zionist with a litmus test: whether they believe modern Israel fulfills biblical prophecy. Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss biblical interpretation, arguing that God’s promise to Abram did not grant land to present-day Israel forever, and that Scofield’s notes in The Scofield Reference Bible (fundamental to Christian Zionism) distort scripture. They criticize Oxford University Press for promoting Scofield’s notes, suggesting that Scofield’s footnotes insert unbiblical interpretations, such as an unconditional blessing of Israel and a perpetual land grant, and claim that these notes misrepresent the promise and connect blessings and curses to contemporary politics. Historical commentary includes: the Balfour Declaration, World War I involvement, and the role of Zionist influence through Scofield and Oxford University Press in shaping American evangelical support for Israel. Philip Morrow (Gospel of the Kingdom) and Doctor F. Furman Curley are cited as early critics who warned against dispensationalism and Christian Zionism, linking Armageddon predictions to support for war. The transcript includes firsthand testimony from Gaza: Shireen, a Palestinian from Gaza, describing nightly missile raids and occupation, and the film’s purpose to document the consequences of Christian Zionist policy. The concluding appeal urges sharing the film with mainline pastors and encouraging recovery of America for God, rejecting the notion of a divinely ordained Israeli state. The film is dedicated to Shireen and others affected by the conflict.

Israel is a democracy and an ally. One speaker believes Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American government, controlling members of the House and Senate. They claim Israel has the U.S. involved in wars of little or no interest, bankrupting the nation and resulting in American children returning in body bags. The speaker asserts that Israel controls much of U.S. foreign and domestic policy, influencing the media and commerce, and that they "own the congress." They allege Wolfowitz, as under secretary of defense, manipulated President Bush to go back into Iraq and pushed to move into Iran. When asked if they are an anti-Semite, the speaker denies it, stating that this is what they will say. They claim the U.S. has a one-sided foreign policy in the Mideast, alienating Arabs who then export violence to America. They state Israel gets approximately $15 billion a year from American taxpayers, which is $30,000 for every man, woman, and child.

Bible is crystal clear. Jesus said to the Jews, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen people. God chose Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he used the nation of Israel as a pattern; they were supposed to be a light to Gentiles. They failed in that mission. The Lord Jesus Christ came as the Messiah, and he came unto his own and his own received him not. The Bible squarely places the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews. In Acts, the Romans protect Christians, while the Jews try to rip them apart and stone them; Romans restore law and order. This is why I reject Zionism and being pro Israel. I read the Bible cover to cover, 20 times, and I didn't see it because you're brainwashed.

Speaker 0 argues that the biblical quotation is being misrepresented, saying that instead of “I will bless those who bless Israel,” the relevant wording is “I will bless those who bless Abraham,” and claims the passage is not even being quoted properly by those using it to justify action. Speaker 1 says the effect is to distort American politics, stating that it was agreed during the “Russia hysteria” of the last administration that it was wrong and illegal for a foreign government to control American politics. They assert that now the national conversation is centered on a “tiny, totally irrelevant” country with “one great city, Jerusalem,” described as geopolitically irrelevant and “at the behest of a foreign government.” Speaker 1 adds that the foreign government is said to be openly threatening censorship of those who disagree—“you don’t agree with us? We’re gonna censor you”—and questions how that can stand. They state that they see a pattern in which small satellite groups, including the ADL and APAC, push the position, and that “the congress obeys.” They conclude that a foreign leader calling for censorship of American citizens, along with related organizational and congressional responses, must be a “red line.”

I am neutral towards Israel. The speaker believes that Israel should stand on its own and survive on its own merits. They claim that Zionism, which they say is not related to Judaism or the Jewish people, is a driving force behind the new world order. They argue that powerful interests in the United States and England, not the Jews, were responsible for the formation of Israel. The speaker believes that people are being manipulated by religious beliefs, church leaders, secret societies, and the media. They mention the Book of Revelations as the ultimate plan and state that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture. The speaker asserts that Christ will not be coming soon and warns against blindly believing in it. They criticize those who believe they will be saved from the upcoming tribulation and compare them to Nazis.

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" or pro-Zionist, asserting it stems from a misinterpretation of the Bible and dispensationalism. They claim the New Testament indicates the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people, but rather the church. Using biblical passages, the speaker argues that the kingdom of God was taken from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. They state that believers in Jesus, regardless of ethnicity (Jew or Gentile), are the true seed of Abraham and heirs to the promise. The speaker contends that earthly Jerusalem lost its significance after rejecting Jesus, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem. They equate Zionism with being anti-gospel and anti-Christian. The speaker questions favoring Israeli children over Palestinian children, asserting Jesus loves all equally. They believe those who die in Christ are perfected and united in love in Jesus' presence, transcending earthly divisions.

People believe supporting Israel brings God's blessings, but America's history challenges this. Legalized abortion and increasing debt show no divine favor. Jews have faced persecution for centuries, expelled from numerous countries. The question remains: why such hatred towards them?