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Speaker 0 introduces a moment to hear what the crowd thinks, noting skepticism about whether there will be opportunity to see it. Speaker 1 says they don’t know who’s whispering to the speaker, likening it to Grima Wormtongue, and asserts that half the people from their movement aren’t on Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin’s team. They say: “We aren’t neocons. We aren’t war hawks. We want America first. And if you make me choose between America first and MAGA, it’s America first all day. That’s what MAGA was supposed to be. You were just the best vessel for it, bro. Don’t get it twisted.” Speaker 2 contends that despite Trump’s flaws, including insider trading, they’re glad he’s differentiating and saying “you’re not with me because I’m not with you.” They reject being associated with someone they describe as a “cool corrupt kid” and a “Jeffrey Epstein class table.” They claim Trump “wasn’t loyal to his original mission. He wasn’t loyal to America. He became a creature of Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu,” and that all “his never troubled enemies are now the courtiers with the madness of King Lear” telling him the lies they want to hear, and declare they are not one of those people. Speaker 3 argues that this proves multiple things, including that “the first thing, he shouldn’t be in office anymore. Implement the twenty fifth.” They say Trump isn’t loyal to this country or to anybody except “that little country in the Middle East.” They note it’s as if he does what he’s told, and compare him unfavorably to JFK for telling that country no. They ask, “How can you call them losers when you lose to Bibi Netanyahu in Israel every single day? When’s the last time you told them no to anything?” Speaker 0 shifts to a personal jab, saying Brigitte Macron is far more beautiful than Candace Owens, and asserts he’s been blind across the Internet. They reference reactions on Truth Social, noting “they’ve turned on you.” They catalog some responses: “You are way out of line.” They remind that many were once day ones, including Alex Jones, who had Trump on his show when “no media company would have you on.” They summarize: people are telling Trump to take a step back and “get back to America first.” Others say, “You are just going against everyone that fought for him to win just because of the Epstein files and being at war with Iran for Israel.” They quote: “We didn’t leave MAGA. MAGA left them. Clearly, you are insane. Time to resign, Donald or face the twenty fifth. You are mentally and emotionally unfit to be POTUS.” Additional insults follow: “You are so childish. Clearly, the truth has triggered you being one of your biggest supporters. I am done with you and your lies.” They claim Trump bent the knee to a monster, leaving a mess in the country, and, finally, describe a recurring social media pattern: “this was the most brutal and sadly a recurring response all across social media.” Speaker 0 adds that a tweet about Charlie suggested he would be on a list if they hadn’t killed him, asserting that “there is no truth and there is no loyalty within you.”

We have a tendency to always support the right wing because the Republicans are better than the Democrats. If Kamala Harris had won in 2024 and bombed Iran, there'd be riots; but with Trump, ninety percent of Republicans supported bombing Iran on Israel's behalf. Donald Trump is the matrix president. In 2016 Hillary Clinton, in 2020 Joe Biden, were matrix candidates; 2024 Donald Trump was. After October 7, the Jews knew that the Republican party controlled by APAC, controlled by Israel, and with Trump in office, they were gonna let Israel do whatever they wanted to do. Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and the media are all in on it because Trump is their matrix candidate. JD Vance is the Matrix candidate. They ordered Trump to nominate him. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Tucker Carlson ordered Trump to pick J. D. Vance. This is what they don't want you to hear.

1) Global perspective: “Israel is a tiny country in the Middle East, not critical to our national security, by the way.” “Two THAAD missile batteries in Israel… one quarter of the world’s total supply.” “The United States has spent at minimum $30,000,000,000 defending Israel.” “Over the course of its existence, the United States has put 300,000,000,000 into supporting Israel.” “India and China combined represent more than a third of the entire world’s population.” 2) Self-respect and client state: “get some freaking self respect and stop being ordered around by a client state.” “IDF officers in the Pentagon… barging into meetings, giving orders.” Netanyahu: “I control Donald Trump.” 3) Citizenship and lobbying: “APAC has to register under FAIR, the foreign agent registration act of the nineteen thirties.” “No dual citizenship.” “You are not allowed to serve in a foreign military without losing your American citizenship.” “expel everyone who’s not a citizen from the country.” 4) Theology: “The chosen people in Christianity are those who choose Jesus.” “That is not Christianity. It is heresy.”

Speaker 0 expresses a view on religion and national character, saying: “if a country doesn't have religion, doesn't have faith, doesn't have God, it's gonna be very hard to be a good country.” He adds, “This It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you Christians.” He states, “I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian.” He admits doubt about heaven: “I don't think there's anything gonna get me in heaven. Okay? I really don't. I think I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly an air force, but I'm not sure I I'm gonna be able to make heaven.” He claims to have been “really saved” by “somebody very special,” and repeats: “A high beak. A high beak. A high beak.” Speaker 1 recounts the presidential oath ceremony: “When US President Donald Trump took its oath of office, he had his right hand raised, but his left wasn't on the Bible. But does it matter? Academics tell Reuters that it was an oversight and it doesn't have much practical impact, although the moment has gone viral online.” A professor is quoted that “the oath is to the constitution.” He notes that “Two bibles were held by Trump's wife Melania as she stood next to him at the ceremony.” Speaker 2 presents claims about Trump’s faith: “Trump converted to Judaism two years ago and joined Chabad Lubavitch Synagogue in New York City according to a high level White House official.” A figure named Mister Goldberg says the story has allegedly been held by CNN's editors for months, but will be released soon. David Elias Goldberg, a fellow at the Jewish Center of Antisemitic Study, has also interviewed the White House source. The source says Trump was pushed by Ivanka and Jared Kushner to join the faith; Trump initially resisted, fearing it would threaten his evangelical Christian base, but then changed his mind and “officially converted in early two thousand seventeen.” The ceremony was private and guarded for nearly two years. The White House appears prepared to release this information gradually, and by summer, Trump is expected to address his new faith in an evening televised news conference. He is described as “the most pro Israel president in the history of America,” having given Israel “every single thing that they wanted,” and being “about to give them war with Iran.” The question is raised: “Has he converted?” A Times of Israel article is cited: “Trump, the first Jewish president of The United States.” It is emphasized: “Now that's not us saying that. That's times of Israel.” The discussion notes that Times of Israel is a Jewish nation, and that “these people do like Israel.” Speaker 0 interjects: “Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.” Speaker 3 adds: “And he loves Israel too. Six years ago, I was up here. And I said, this is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. This is our first Jewish president. Not not consecutive. We”—and then Speaker 0 closes with: “thank you for everything, Joel. We thank you for everything.”

Max Blumenthal discusses what he calls the all-encompassing, defining influence of pro-Israel interests in the United States, arguing that Israeli influence has shaped Donald Trump’s career and policy from the beginning. He traces this to Trump’s inner circle and to figures connected to pro-Israel billionaires in New York, such as Charles Kushner, Howard Lutnick, and Steve Witkoff, and to the Adelsons’ network around the Republican Jewish Coalition. He cites Trump’s early appearances with Adelson-backed circles and his 2015-2016 remarks at the RJC convention, where Trump suggested making a deal between Israelis and Palestinians and referenced a Palestinian state, which Blumenthal says alarmed the Adelsons and the RJC. Blumenthal asserts that Trump’s 2016 rise was financed by Israel-first billionaires, with Paul Singer shifting from initially opposing Trump to backing him for the Iran policy he desired. He claims Singer’s money helped Trump move toward a war with Iran, aligning with figures like John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, and other pro-Israel advisors who provided influence, while Bannon was sidelined. He argues Tucker Carlson and other voices in the first term may have constrained war with Iran, but that the second term brought even more pro-Israel personnel, including Mike Waltz in national security circles, and Marco Rubio continuing to push the Israel-aligned line. Blumenthal details what he describes as a cultivated, orchestrated process of influence over Trump and his advisers, culminating in a February 11, 2020 or 2021 meeting in the Situation Room where Netanyahu dictated terms to Trump to strike Iran. He describes the room as divided between an “A Team” of pro-Israel figures (Susie Wiles, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, John Ratcliffe, and others) and a dissenting “B Team” (J. D. Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and another figure) who had little real influence. He asserts that Netanyahu, with Mossad director David Barnea briefing Ratcliffe, steered Trump toward war with Iran, and that many within the administration recognized the war’s insanity but did not oppose it due to fear of repercussions. Blumenthal contends that the ceasefire in the region was sabotaged by Israel and that President Trump’s posture is effectively dictated by Israeli leadership. He cites Rubio’s post-briefing disclosure that Israel would attack Iran regardless of U.S. preference, and says the ceasefire’s terms, as drafted by the State Department for Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, indicate that Lebanon should be included; Israel, he says, launched a major assault in Lebanon—killing hundreds and attacking areas around Beirut and the American University of Beirut—in an attempt to provoke Iran and place the United States on the spot to reject Lebanon’s inclusion. He argues this demonstrates a “coup” in the White House, with Trump acting as “the first Israeli president,” and says the ceasefire is a hoax being sabotaged by Israel. Blumenthal points to domestic political consequences in the United States, noting Joe Kent’s resignation as a sign of MAGA discontent and arguing that Netanyahu has destabilized presidencies across the board. He claims that within MAGA, overt Israeli influence exists in influential media and political circles, including financiers and podcasters. Blumenthal lists prominent figures he claims are effectively Israeli foreign agents within MAGA infrastructure: Josh Hammer, Dennis Prager, Larry Elder, Hugh Hewitt, Dinesh D’Souza, Sebastian Gorka, Brandon Tatum, Todd Starnes, Laura Trump, and Don Jr.; and he asserts that Salem Media Group operates as an Israeli foreign agent, with Brad Parscale as a registered agent overseeing a contract between Israel’s foreign ministry and Clock Tower Strategies, delivering tens of millions in payments to influencers. He claims Laura Trump and Don Jr. own a stake in Salem Media, signaling a merger between the Trump orbit and Israeli interests. Finally, Blumenthal argues there is a fusion of ideological zeal and institutionalized influence, with a battleground between MAGA voices not paid by Israel and others who are funded to propagate Israel-first narratives, and he predicts a major clash in upcoming party conventions over U.S. policy toward Israel. He concludes that the clock is running out for Israel and that the country’s strategy relies on continuing aggressive actions, including bombing, to resolve its problems.

The conversation begins with discussion of a sudden shift in US/Iran-Israel rhetoric and a development reported as Iran suspending its delegation trip to Switzerland for the opening round of nuclear negotiations. The initial source cited is Al Mayadeen. Iran’s stated reason is ongoing Israeli military operations in southern Lebanon. Iran argues that Israel operating more than six miles inside Lebanese territory violates Article 1 of the MOU, which calls for an immediate end to hostilities on all fronts, including Lebanon, and therefore Iran says there is “nothing to go to Geneva for” if the ceasefire clause is being breached before negotiations begin. The transcript also notes that Donald Trump posted a call for a complete ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon, Hezbollah, and Israel. The discussion then shifts to the “wild card” described as Israel and whether Trump can reign in Netanyahu. Colonel argues that Israeli leadership and US supporters were instrumental in putting Trump into the White House and that they are turning current events into a “test of Jewish power,” aiming to bully Trump back into attacking Iran. He claims this is where events are headed. He also references a CNN report that Netanyahu is reportedly lobbying to shape the final US-Iran agreement by pressuring Trump through allies and intermediaries in Washington, mobilizing pro-Israeli senators and media allies. The transcript further states Netanyahu believes a final agreement will be reached but remains concerned Tehran will not uphold commitments, and that Netanyahu said “we will restore security to the north” by keeping the security zone in southern Lebanon as long as Israel’s security needs require. Asked whether Trump can withstand pressure, Colonel states he believes Trump and Iran “collectively reached the point” where they see no point in further war. He describes what he says was Trump’s private impression earlier in political interactions: Trump did not want a war with Iran, thought an arrangement could be reached, and was focused on the United States. Colonel claims Trump’s transformation began with Ukraine, and later shifted into belligerence. He says that at the beginning of the collision with Iran, Trump used language around sending B-2 bombers and said “the war is over,” but that he “couldn’t do it,” and became concerned about financial markets, polls, and the economy. Colonel claims Trump kept repeating that the war would end soon, but that the only way to end it was to end it, not by talking and not by a military solution. Colonel further claims Trump did not want to use a nuclear weapon and that it was “off the table.” Colonel then discusses Trump’s relationship with Israel and the MOU as a rough framework. He says Trump finds elements of the framework comfortable, including not meddling in internal affairs and reducing overseas entanglements. He also claims Trump had conversations with Netanyahu and made it clear he does not want Israel to go nuclear. Colonel portrays Trump’s decision-making as attempting to bring the conflict to closure, after concluding bombing would not work. He says Trump may have been shown information about Israel’s actions in Gaza and Lebanon that contributed to a change in how Trump framed the issue, and he references Trump’s comments about destroying an entire apartment building to eliminate one person. The transcript moves into a broader argument about long-term regional power shifts. Colonel says the two powers that will emerge are Iran and Turkey, and that they will dominate the Middle East for decades. He distinguishes them, asserting Iran will coexist and can be talked to and do business, while provoking Turkey would be “a fight to the finish.” He argues Turkey has a martial character and cites its military effectiveness as being among the top five in the world. When asked about Turkey’s military capabilities, he emphasizes not only technology but human material and soldier character, adding a cultural reference about a funeral song for Turkish soldiers. Colonel then presents “ISR-Strike” as the strategic change behind modern warfare, linking surveillance and standoff attack systems, and claims that this makes older power projection methods less effective. He argues the world must change and criticizes calls to reset to past patterns of “go back in and bomb some more,” drawing analogies to historical Roman limits. In this context, he says Trump understands the need for change and “cutting losses.” Asked whether Israel could sabotage negotiations by continuing strikes and whether Trump could refuse to support Israel even defensively, Colonel says what the question describes is “almost already happening,” pointing to Israeli shelling and a likely effort to attack Hizballah positions. He says Israel needs US assistance with munitions, missiles, and intelligence, and argues that Netanyahu would pressure Washington through officials and lawmakers to force support. Colonel also states he is “genuinely concerned” about the president’s safety. Later, the conversation turns to speculation about how pressure could escalate beyond normal political attacks. Colonel suggests that investigations could be launched involving members of the president’s family, pointing to personal wealth growth and potential exploitation of “unsavory” matters, and references “the Epstein files” as something that could return to center stage. He then argues that escalating outcomes can range from orchestrated efforts to unexpected attempts, comparing to historical assassination attempts. He says calls for resignation are not what he supports at that moment, arguing resignation should occur after closing the chapter. Finally, the discussion addresses how much agency the president and commanders have within the system. The transcript cites claims from CENTCOM and other departments that commanders have less agency than expected and that higher-level elected officials similarly have constraints due to bureaucratic structures, service hierarchies, confirmation processes, and lobbying. Colonel ties this to a broader system of incentives and limited political time for presidents to accomplish objectives, concluding with a reference to his book “A Margin of Victory: Five Battles That Changed the Face of War, Modern Warfare.”

Speaker 0 vents intense anger about the Israel-Gaza crisis and U.S. involvement. He says: we pivoted to the IDF and after two years of war, with brothers and sisters killed and hostages liberated, “for these sick fucks” to turn it into Disneyland and give it to the Palestinians is unacceptable; he cannot pay for it. He notes Qatar and Turkey’s involvement, and a comment by BB that if Qatar can’t come, they’ll bring them; then “Qatar’s on the board of peace,” which enrages him. He proclaims, “We have nuclear missiles,” and threatens North Korea, claiming he will show them a “Jewish North Korea.” He declares “Gaza is biblically ours” and says the new board of peace has pushed him over the edge; he does not want to come back, and wants “full deportation” of Palestinians. He argues for shutting borders for us and our friends only, envisioning Gaza becoming a banking and tax haven, free of wars. He expresses confusion over the Iran situation and asserts that their weaponry is so advanced they can “melt their flesh with our lasers,” yet laments giving Gaza to their enemies and asks, “What the actual fuck?” He ends by saying, “So I’d like to get” before the transcript cuts off. Speaker 1 adds, “to pay for it,” and then, “you forgot about the part where we pay the price tag because nobody else wants to fucking pay for it.”

Speaker 0 claims 'I control The United States. I control Donald Trump,' and that Bibi is 'running around The Middle East, his region, and his own country' telling people this 'point blank,' and 'I dare them to say that's not true.' He argues 'Bibi, not the nation of Israel, not Israelis, and certainly not Jews,' as 'the leader, the secular prime minister of a country,' is doing 'immense harm to Donald Trump's presidency to The United States.' He calls him 'an unbalanced person whose only real concern is for himself' and says he's 'meddling in an extensive way in American politics' and 'loath[ed] by the entire world.' He notes Bibi 'needs The United States,' but has a 'patronizing attitude toward Donald Trump, demeaning Trump to people Trump knows.' 'Separating from Beebe immediately' is essential, because 'he is hurting his own country, our country, the world. Period.'

Speaker 0 argues that the American government is trapped by the Israelis, using Jeffrey Epstein as a tool to constrain and manipulate U.S. leaders. He claims Epstein was used to trap multiple presidents and influence policy, stating, “Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak met Arafat in the nineties, and there was no deal. The reason was Epstein. They were being blackmailed by Epstein.” He adds that Ehud Barak, then Israeli prime minister, was also “a friend of Epstein” but was blackmailed by the Israeli right wing, and that this pressure stopped a potential two-state solution with Arafat. He asserts Epstein’s leverage extended beyond sex to financial concerns, questioning, “Where was the money coming from?” and contends that the Gaza issue is the focal point of much of the obstruction. He cites Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal reporting a birthday card Trump sent to Epstein as evidence of ties, and claims that Israelis have compromised the American government through Epstein and related past events. He also states that “I don’t think Trump wants to continue this war or the genocide” and that Israelis are inhibiting him. Speaker 1 asks what Dershowitz’s denial suggests, prompting Speaker 0 to elaborate with broader conspiracy implications, suggesting that Israeli influence has shaped U.S. policy and history, including why peace deals or normalization efforts may have stalled. Speaker 1 questions why those in power would use Epstein instead of other drastic measures like assassination, referencing theories about John F. Kennedy’s assassination and noting the possibility of broader intelligence involvement. He proposes that the GCC countries could leverage financial power to supplant traditional APAC lobbying in influencing U.S. policy and asks whether Trump could mobilize Arab world and BRICS power to end what is described as genocide. Speaker 0 answers that Trump could end the genocide “right now” if he stops fearing the Israelis, urging him to disregard accusations about his ethics, “Let them say whatever they say. He should stop the genocide. Let them do whatever they wanna do. Morality should take over.” He compares the Israeli pressure to historical leverage, asking Trump to act in the interest of the United States and the Middle East. Speaker 1 references Robert Maxwell as an example of Israeli intimidation, noting the dangers of challenging them. Speaker 0 closes by reiterating hope that Trump will prioritize U.S. and Middle East interests and “do the right thing.”

Biden enabled the war in Gaza, but Trump is planning something far worse: a massive population transfer dwarfing previous displacements. Many were wrong to assume Trump would be better, especially after seeing him with hostage families and his envoy pushing for a ceasefire. Trump aims to take over Gaza as US property, turning it into a "paradise," essentially for Israeli settlers. Netanyahu now has a mandate to continue the war. Trump's actions undermine the ceasefire deal, jeopardizing hostage releases. Hamas is now less incentivized to release hostages. There are also ominous signs regarding the West Bank and potential annexation. This is no longer about Hamas, but about forcibly displacing Palestinians, a clear act of ethnic cleansing. If this continues, the Middle East will react strongly, and every Israeli will feel the consequences.

The discussion centers on how Donald Trump is said to have “transformed” from describing himself as being under blackmail or duress to portraying himself as someone who can control Netanyahu and Israel—framed as a rationalizing process meant to avoid cognitive dissonance. The speaker argues that, if a person is pressured into actions, the mind may later reframe the situation so the person believes they “chose this” rather than being forced, ultimately convincing themselves that they are in control. This is illustrated through historical examples and analogies, including claims that Stockholm-syndrome-like processes occur when captives are compelled to adapt psychologically and socially to survive. To support the explanation, the speaker cites Texas frontier accounts and rereads Herman Lehman’s *Nine Years Among the Indians, 1870 to 1879*, describing cases in which boys captured by Comanches and Apaches could be brought over into the captors’ mindset over time. The speaker also references *Indian Depredations in Texas* (1889) and films such as *The Searchers* (including the story of a kidnapped girl who does not want to return), as well as Burt Lancaster’s *Ulzanas Raid*. The core claim is that these captives underwent prolonged hardship and social pressure—adaptation through survival, conditioning, and eventual identity change—so that the captive’s mind becomes “in their mind” part of the group. The speaker then ties the framework to contemporary politics by returning to remarks attributed to Trump about Israel and Netanyahu. The speaker says that earlier, Rubio and Trump supposedly said they conducted an attack (after February 28) because Israel said it would attack Israel, but that later Trump’s mindset shifts to believing Netanyahu will do whatever he says and that Trump may even joke about becoming “the next prime minister of Israel.” The speaker adds that Trump reportedly dismisses unfavorable polls as “fake news” and cites a poll Trump mentioned claiming extremely high Israeli favorability, arguing that such favorability does not translate to broad global acceptance. A large portion shifts to a geopolitical and energy argument focused on Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and the global economy. The speaker claims that U.S.-linked actions have increasingly been associated with heightened risk, noting U.S.-provided munitions and support and asserting that extending Israel’s range with refuelers helps Israel “leapfrog” beyond Israel’s defensive perimeter. The speaker argues that assassination tactics and “sneak attack” approaches undermine negotiation, using historical comparisons (including Pearl Harbor) to argue that starting or escalating conflict produces long-term distrust and consequences. The speaker argues that the conflict is not sustainable as a prolonged “stalemate” because world fuel levels are declining and the global system is described as being “just in time,” with tankers serving as moving inventory. The speaker proposes a “tank bottom” concept—when reserve fuel buffers abroad become so depleted that supply chains and infrastructure cannot handle remaining fractions—leading to global cascading effects. They claim that even if ships head to the U.S. to refuel, it inflates U.S. prices, damages perceptions of the U.S. internationally, and does not solve the global shortfall. From there, the speaker forecasts knock-on impacts: acute energy problems followed by food crisis conditions, and they link agriculture outcomes to fertilizer, diesel, irrigation, and supply constraints. They also argue that psychological and social preparedness matters—asserting that Americans may collapse faster due to expectations of constant electricity, water, and supermarket access, while people with lived hardship may adapt more readily. The transcript also includes an extended interlude promoting and discussing products and fundraising tied to the show, including supplements, iodine products, wallets, and an RFID/Faraday-shield theme. It describes sales, pricing, and claims about how shielding protects against card scanning and data theft.

We will take Gaza. There’s no need to buy it; it's a war-torn area that needs development. It will become a tremendous asset for the Middle East, creating many jobs and bringing peace. It fronts the sea, offering great economic potential. This is something that should have been done long ago, but the October 7th catastrophe made it a necessary action. While development will take time, it will ultimately bring stability and jobs to the region. This will benefit people across the Middle East. We will be discussing our plans with Arab representatives from the United States. My real estate background has prepared me for this endeavor, but my focus is on doing good for people as president.

The discussion centers on shifting U.S. rhetoric toward Iran and Israel amid negotiations and escalating conflict. As the interview goes live, news reports Iran suspended its trip to Switzerland for the opening round of nuclear negotiations. Iran’s stated reason is ongoing Israeli military operations in southern Lebanon, arguing Israel is operating over six miles inside Lebanese territory in violation of Article 1 of the MOU calling for an immediate end to hostilities on all fronts, including Lebanon. Iran says if the ceasefire clause is being breached before negotiations begin, there is nothing to go to Geneva for. Trump is also described as posting a call for a complete ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon, Hezbollah, and Israel. The interview then focuses on Israel as a “wild card” in the MOU and whether Trump can restrain Netanyahu. The colonel says Israeli leadership and U.S. billionaire supporters helped put Trump into office and are turning current events into “a test of Jewish power,” aiming to pressure Trump back into attacking Iran. He argues this approach reflects disproportionate influence already held by these actors, and predicts efforts to bully the president toward war. A CNN report is referenced describing Netanyahu lobbying to shape the final U.S.-Iran agreement by pressuring Trump through allies and intermediaries in Washington, mobilizing pro-Israeli senators and media allies. Netanyahu is said to believe a final agreement will be reached but is concerned Tehran will not uphold it. Separately, Netanyahu is described as saying Israel will restore security to the north through maintaining a security zone in southern Lebanon until Israel’s security needs require it, which the interviewer links to Netanyahu rallying U.S. influence to pressure Trump. When asked whether Trump can withstand this pressure, the colonel describes a transformation in Trump’s foreign-policy posture: he says Trump did not want a war with Iran, believed an arrangement could be reached, and showed reluctance to go to war generally. The colonel describes interruptions in foreign-policy dialogue after Ukraine in April 2022, then describes increasing belligerence around the early Iran conflict, including an account of Trump’s expectation that military action could end the war quickly. He then says Trump concluded the approach was not going well, became concerned about financial markets and the U.S. economy, and that the repeated claim “this war is going to end soon” could not end the conflict without a closure. The colonel argues Trump found no military solution and that using a nuclear weapon was “off the table.” He frames Trump’s challenge as dealing with Israel in a context where only an MOU exists as a rough framework, and highlights provisions aligned with Trump’s instincts, including not meddling in internal affairs and desire for forces to return home. He claims Trump was shown information about atrocities by Israelis against people in Gaza and Lebanon and that Trump’s statement about not needing to destroy an entire apartment building to eliminate one person reflects a broader realization. The colonel says some people are calling for Trump’s resignation because he “lost a war,” and responds that major powers do not achieve permanent “perfect victory streaks,” but instead must cut losses and move on. The colonel argues that future power in the Middle East will be dominated by Iran and Turkey, describing them as different from Israel and emphasizing that provoking Turkey would lead to a “fight to the finish.” He argues Israel’s existential threat is not Iran but Turkey, and contends that Israel and others are operating in a changing global environment where ISR-strike complexes and persistent surveillance plus standoff attack weapons enable new defensive and offensive capabilities. He concludes that the war must be brought to an end because the world has fundamentally changed and efforts to “reset it to backwards” are tied to calls for bombing more. A question is raised about how escalation could work if Israel continues strikes in Lebanon and Iran retaliates, and Trump chooses not to get involved, including not intercepting missiles. The colonel replies that this is “almost already happening,” citing Israeli shelling from southern Lebanon artillery positions and predicting Israel will attack Hizballah positions, which he describes as an existential threat for Israel. He says Israel would need U.S. assistance—munitions, missiles, intelligence—and predicts Netanyahu would pressure Trump politically if support were withheld, including threats aimed at Trump’s political survival. He also says he is “genuinely concerned” about the president’s safety. The conversation then shifts to claimed political and systemic factors limiting presidential agency and the possibility of escalation beyond normal pressure campaigns. The colonel suggests investigations involving members of the president’s family and references wealth growth and “Epstein files” as elements that could return to center stage. He also describes how criminal or political actions and unpredictable events have historically led leaders to be removed or harmed, and compares concerns to the experience of President Kennedy’s assassination. When discussing how pressure campaigns could become more sinister, he outlines ways investigations, media narratives, and orchestrated blame could be pursued. Near the end, the colonel discusses how broader U.S. and military bureaucracies operate, stating commanders can be constrained by service chiefs and confirmed positions, and arguing that institutional incentives discourage independent action. He recommends his book “A Margin of Victory: Five Battles That Changed the Face of War, Modern Warfare,” and says it addresses the limits of what government can accomplish on an average day due to other people’s decisions and confirmed constraints. The interview closes with the colonel referencing a Substack piece coming out Sunday or Monday discussing a shift in power and asserting that Iran has won the war and is “invincible,” “humbled, but not broken.”

Donald Trump is prioritizing America First, not Israel First, and will no longer consult with Israel on Middle Eastern foreign policy. Trump believes Benjamin Netanyahu tried to manipulate the U.S. into war with Iran and caught Israel preparing to strike Iran without informing the U.S. Mike Walls allegedly spied on the Trump administration to coerce the cabinet into war with Iran on Netanyahu's behalf. Trump appointed Walls as UN ambassador to silence him. Trump is aiming for world peace and believes Israel is trying to drag the U.S. into more Middle Eastern wars. Trump is reportedly going to recognize Palestine as a state, which will anger Israel. Israel is not our greatest ally, but our deepest foe, and the CIA considers Israel the number one spy threat in the U.S. The World Banking Cartel and Jeff Epstein are tied together, but blackmail is no longer effective because evidence exists against everyone involved. The media can't lie anymore because people are waking up and have access to information.

Speaker 0 outlines what 'America first' means to Donald Trump, noting it has 'gotten so extreme' and that Lindsey Graham condemned the plan. Netanyahu is said to have proposed 'Project NIAM' named for Mohammed bin Salman to develop the Red Sea area up to Eilat and to push 'NEOM' through Gaza and Greater Israel via a PowerPoint. The plan supposedly entails a four-stage redevelopment of Gaza, beginning with 'the destruction of Gaza,' the population being separated into Hamas supporters to be liquidated and others to receive humanitarian aid. Stage three envisions a dictatorial strongman authority under the UAE after normalization; Stage four envisions Gaza by 2035 producing electric car plants and Teslas for Gulf and US companies with relatively cheap Gazan labor, a 'win win' and a model for Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon. The speaker calls this 'the essential logic of Zionism' and discusses extending borders toward the Euphrates with the Kurds as friends.

The conversation centers on whether U.S. policy shifts toward “putting America first” and whether Trump/J.D. Vance statements about Israel and Iran are genuine or the result of external manipulation. Mario asks Alex whether what J.D. Vance and Trump are saying is meant sincerely, referencing J.D. Vance and Trump’s language. Alex responds that he believes J.D. Vance and Trump have been influenced and manipulated, and he links U.S. decision-making to behind-the-scenes arguments raised in cabinet meetings about Israel’s Middle East actions. He says J.D. Vance heard claims from the Pentagon that Israel’s plan was a terrible idea, would fail to produce regime change, would close the strait, would “destroy the administration,” and would “kill the world economy,” describing a pattern where Israel’s actions were connected to dragging the U.S. toward total war. Alex claims Trump later realized he had been manipulated by “false intelligence” provided by Netanyahu and Mossad, including claims that Netanyahu and Mossad convinced Trump that Kurds would rise and the Iranian regime would fall within four days. Alex says Trump then looked for an “exit ramp” for more than a month but was repeatedly pulled back in as Israel allegedly continued attacks and sabotaged negotiations, including an episode where Trump claimed he ordered Israel to stop hitting Lebanon and Alex claims Israel hit harder afterward. Alex adds that Netanyahu allegedly refused to leave southern Lebanon, and he singles out Ben-Gavir as even more radical and influential, quoting Ben-Gavir saying, “We need to burn all of Lebanon to the ground,” and framing this as a broader “Greater Israel project.” Alex describes a “canary in the coal mine” by citing Gerald Morgan (Steven Crowder’s co-host) as saying Ben-Gavir is a horrible person and that Morgan would not support Israel if it continued such “genocidal” statements and behavior. Alex also says that Israel’s influence is reflected in legislation, claiming the U.S. National Defense Authorization Act for 2027 would merge and synchronize U.S. and Israeli military research and development and weapons, and that days after committee passage, the Defense Intelligence Agency and two other agencies allegedly said Israel is the highest-level espionage threat to the U.S. Mario connects the discussion to Trump’s rhetoric, asking whether this is more than rhetoric and could go on longer. Alex answers that Trump is “100% pro-Israel” and believes Israel has a right to exist, saying Trump seeks to be a major peacemaker and wants the Abraham Accords. Alex says Trump “never liked Netanyahu,” claiming Trump is enraged and looking to break with Israel due to constituents’ war-related break from “Israel first” and inflation. Alex says he expects Israel to keep provoking, including possibly launching bigger provocations against Iran, or a “magical terror attack” blamed on Iran, and ties this to Netanyahu’s legal situation and alleged incentives not to destabilize internal outcomes tied to October 7-related investigations. The transcript then shifts to direct quotes shown in a clip from Gerald Morgan challenging a statement attributed to Ben-Gavir: Alex relays the argument that “All of Lebanon must burn,” asserting disproportionate retaliation logic, warning that absorbing Lebanon would lead to further targets like Turkey and Syria, and arguing the U.S. supported Israel for decades. Alex then says Katz made similar statements, including a claim that villages in southern Lebanon have been flattened and that 200,000 Lebanese residents in a security zone are never returning. Alex later elaborates on what he says is Israeli conduct: alleged leveling of villages, destruction of houses, leveling churches and crusader castles, and poisoning crops via concentrated glyphosate weed killer (Roundup), comparing this to prior actions in Gaza and the West Bank involving wells. He also claims “Lebanese, Christian or Muslim” who do not leave would face IDF snipers and killing, and he says Israel publicly called the approach “the Gaza treatment” for Lebanon. Alex expands into broader claims about political networks and leverage. When asked what leverage Israel might have over Trump, Alex describes opening “back channels” and cutting Israel out of live time intelligence, but also claims Israel has leverage over Trump through business ties and the “Epstein network,” asserting Trump wanted to take over such power structures for himself and that Israel “got all the intel” through secret forms that redirect information away from the Five Eyes. Alex claims this results in Israel placing personnel in key Pentagon and intelligence positions and describes “partially under a Likudnik Israeli coup right now.” Mario asks whether Alex believes this is linked to dirt involving Epstein. Alex says it is not primarily dirt used to compromise Trump, but rather that Trump joined the network and expected protection and loyalty; when it didn’t go as planned, Alex claims Trump became angry and tried to assert dominance over Israel. Alex argues Trump’s actions would be reversed only when Trump decides he was wrong, and he lists conditions for a fundamental shift: Trump needs to call for Netanyahu to leave, oppose legislation such as the NDAA Section 224 and a matching Senate Intelligence Bill, deny Israel merging with U.S. military/intelligence, and cut off funding and weapons. Alex also adds that he wants Trump to oppose laws restricting free speech and to reverse other actions he lists as harmful. In the short term, Mario asks what happens if Israel strikes Beirut, Iran retaliates, and whether Trump would be dragged in. Alex says the longer the Strait of Hormuz is closed and the worse the economy becomes, the more pressure Trump will face, and he claims Trump might come out against Netanyahu if Israel’s actions cause unbearable economic damage and if bombing Iran is framed as leading Iran to attack Israel. Alex also predicts Israel’s land-gathering motivations, including gas corridors. Finally, Mario asks whether Netanyahu could fall to pressure and whether Israel could cease fire and pull out, similar to Trump’s alleged change with J.D. Vance. Alex says there is “absolutely” a chance for that kind of shift, claiming Israel could be removed through money and opposition channels, that the White House could work with Netanyahu’s opposition, and that if there is no war within a year, pipelines and systems could cut the Strait of Hormuz out of the equation. Alex closes by arguing Israel’s radical leadership escalates conflict in ways that generate backlash and that de-escalation depends on Trump directly confronting Israel’s leadership rather than supporting their decisions.

The speaker argues that criticisms of Trump's appointees as Zionists are unfounded, as most politicians are, except for figures like Thomas Massie and Ron Paul. The speaker claims Trump's agenda is "America First," despite perceptions of him being controlled by Israel. The speaker believes the Rothschilds have brainwashed Americans via the Schofield Bible into supporting Israel, making it impossible to win elections by openly opposing Israel. Trump's pro-Israel rhetoric is a necessity for electoral success. The speaker suggests Trump's actions reveal a "reverse infiltration counterinsurgency" against the "Zog." Examples include the takedown of Epstein and actions against ISIS and in Syria. The speaker claims Trump stopped FEMA camps and opposes central bank digital currency. The speaker says that Trump's few pro-Israel actions, like moving the embassy to Jerusalem, are outweighed by actions against the New World Order. The speaker highlights Trump's friendly relations with BRICS nations and suggests a coordinated effort with China, Russia, and potentially Iran against the New World Order. The speaker also notes Trump's criticisms of Netanyahu and allusions to 9/11 being an inside job.

- The public blames Netanyahu for October 7 as the one who fed the beast. He did not create Hamas, but he fed it. - Netanyahu, who is against peace and against having a Palestinian state, dealt with Hamas for a long time as a strategic friend. It was important for him to keep Gaza under the control of Hamas and keeping the West Bank under Fateh and preventing them from being united in any way. In order to do so, Netanyahu was all the time helping Hamas to survive. - At the same time that he was under investigation, he arranged for Hamas to receive $35,000,000 every month from Qatar. - Netanyahu can't give the money by himself. Israel will not give money to the Hamas. You cannot even transfer this money through banks because even the banks don't want to cooperate. So you, the Israeli prime minister, needs to beg this small and very rich country, Qatar, to give money to our enemy. - This suitcases of money was given to Hamas under the request of Benjamin Netanyahu personally. And because the Qatarians knew him from the beginning, they were asking him to send them his requests in writing because they knew that he's going to lie in the future. - He allowed more than 1,000,000,000 to be transferred to the hands of the Hamas because he believed that he can control the level of hatred. It's nonsense. He cannot control the flames. - Your strategy was keep Hamas there, weaken the Palestinian authority on the West Bank, sustain the extremists, weaken the moderate. This exploded in our faces in the most brutal way on October 7. - Bibi tells the world again and again and again, I'm the expert on terrorism. I know how to fight terrorism. I'm the protector of Israel. And under his regime, we get into this incredible, unbelievable war. - I think we have to finish the job. We can finish the job. Victory is within reach, and that's our goal, total victory. Our fight is your fight, and our victory is your victory. Tonight, I wanna speak to you about total victory. Total victory over Hamas. Unless we have total victory, we can't have peace. - Total victory doesn't actually mean anything here in actuality. You know all of the casualties and death and suffering, and that's what it looks like in reality. That's what those words actually mean. - My dear friends, the word Gaza could end tomorrow if Hamas surrenders, disarms, and returns all the hospital. That's what total victory means, and we will settle for nothing less. - Netanyahu comes to the congress because he needs Americans desperately. - My friends, I came to assure you today of one thing. We will win. - He wants the Israeli public to be proud to have their leader speaking in front of this very prestigious group and getting applauded so many times. He's speaking to the American Congress, but he's really speaking to the Israeli public. - I would say that, tragically, the Americans don't know how to call him out. There was no plan for ending the war of Gaza, bringing the hostages home, and changing dynamics in the region. And things only got worse. Netanyahu is the architect of chaos. He may create a situation where it's irreversible. - He is the great example of a leader that lead his people to the wrong place. But this is the reality in which he will preserve his political power. And he know how to manipulate. Manipulate. He needs it in a way.

I see myself as the George Soros of the center, advocating for common sense restoration. We need safe cities, secure borders, sensible spending, freedom of speech, and respect for the Constitution. The public has given us a clear mandate, winning the popular vote, the House, the Senate, and many governorships. People want change, and we will deliver it. This presidency will be transformative, perhaps the most significant since the founding of the country. President Trump is selecting a cabinet focused on real change, not business as usual. We are on the brink of a revolution, and I am excited about the fantastic future ahead. Thank you.

The transcript claims that Donald Trump will have to publicly declare himself king of Israel as part of a symbolic process, with no strategic purpose, and that this is discussed repeatedly in “memos.” The speaker says the timing and method are unclear, but suggests it could happen at some point, “in the coming months,” and that they will watch for it. The speaker also says that much of what is happening in politics is planned, rather than chaotic, and that people have been given the impression that Trump brought chaos. They further state that Donald Trump’s allegiance is to Israel, and add that he is “not only a Jew” but also a Freemason. According to the transcript, the speaker claims that Trump was promised that his daughter and sons would receive very high-level ranking within a “world government” being formed, and that the capital of that government would be Jerusalem. The speaker says Trump is dedicated to following this “script,” and that his followers perceive his actions as authentic. The transcript claims that events such as Trump talking about “the wall” and “fake news” were scripted from the beginning around 2014 and 2015. The speaker says that, according to some memos they are reading, Trump “loved it,” was introduced to the plan, and was told what he would do as president, including specific statements. The speaker says Trump’s existing predispositions to certain rhetoric contributed to his acceptance. The speaker claims Trump has leeway to say many things he wants to say, and that he “has a lot of fun” performing according to the script, which they attribute to the scriptwriters’ plan.