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The speaker was asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for an intelligence agency and why a minute was missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death. Regarding the client list, the speaker stated the file is sitting on their desk to be reviewed, along with the JFK and MLK files. The tens of thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein and will never be released. The speaker has no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Evidence showed he committed suicide. The missing minute from the video was due to the Bureau of Prisons resetting the video every night, and every night should have the same minute missing. They are looking for that video to release.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 about their recent interview with the FBI and if it was a deposition. Speaker 1 claims to not know what they are referring to and suggests discussing it offline. Speaker 0 questions if Speaker 1 has had any interviews with the FBI since becoming secretary of state, to which Speaker 1 avoids giving a direct answer. Speaker 0 then brings up the State Department turning over documents related to Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Blue State Strategies Corporation, but Speaker 1 does not provide any information. Speaker 0 tries to refocus the discussion on Afghanistan, but Speaker 1 continues to avoid answering questions.

A reporter asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for a U.S. or foreign intelligence agency, referencing a claim by former Labor Secretary Alex Koski. The reporter also inquired about a missing minute from the jailhouse team. The speaker expressed disbelief that Epstein is still being discussed, especially given current events like the tragedy in Texas. The speaker questioned whether answering the Epstein question is a waste of time, considering recent successes and tragedies.

The speakers question how someone could be convicted of 34 crimes while no one on Epstein's list has been charged, suggesting a possible effort to protect pedophiles and asking why the FBI would protect the "largest scale pederist in human history." One speaker claims everyone in politics has a vice "much worse than alcoholism." There is a call to release the Epstein list. One speaker says the DOJ may release the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients and that it is sitting on their desk to review, directed by President Trump. They claim to have flight logs and names that will come out. One speaker says they will never let the story go because of what they heard from a source about Bill Clinton on a plane with Jeffrey Epstein. Another speaker expresses disbelief that people are still talking about Epstein.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and "was never a big factor." The speaker believes the case is "pretty boring stuff" and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. The speaker suggests that "only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like that going." They state that if there's credible information, "let them have it." The speaker then pivots to a question about AI.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about investigating allegations, but Speaker 1 avoids commenting. Speaker 0 expresses concern on behalf of millions of Americans and criticizes Senate Democrats and the media for not addressing the evidence. Speaker 0 asks if the informant who accused Joe Biden of taking a bribe was previously relied upon by the FBI, but Speaker 1 evades a direct answer. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of refusing to answer and calls it disgraceful.

The American people wanna know what happened on Epstein Island. "I'm not gonna drop this topic." You've subpoenaed Bill Clinton. He's gonna fight you tooth and nail, with the best lawyers in the country. Do you think Bill Clinton ever actually testifies? This is a bipartisan, congressionally approved subpoena, and I think that will hold a lot of weight in court. America wants to know what went on at Epstein Island. The Oversight Committee is going back to the earliest days of Jeffrey Epstein's involvement with the Justice Department, including Acosta, who said, I was told to go easy on him because he's intel. They're going back to Mueller as FBI director. Hillary Clinton is on the list—what does she have to do with Epstein? Flight logs. This is extremely broad: everything the DOJ has except the names of the victims. How did he die? The MAGA base has been vocal; they want to know answers.

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

Speaker 0 discusses Jerry Epstein and the Lolita Express, claiming Bill Clinton flew on Epstein’s planes “like, on 20 flights,” and alleging Clinton flew to a Middle Eastern country with a “chic that's admitted pedophile with multimillion dollar checks and Bill Clinton on the plane.” They state Clinton is a “known sexual predator” and reference lawsuits against Donald Trump with Jane Does alleging involvement with Epstein, saying there was no proof in the law because they log flights on private jets, and asserting Trump “had been a defuse” (likely misstatement) of these claims. Speaker 1 shifts to John Podesta, describing him as a “progressive guru” and alleging he is connected to an “underage sex slave op,” and mentions “cover upper defending unspeakable dregs.” They question what MMFA is, and Jamie asks what it means. The term MMFA is identified in the dialogue as Media Matters. The speakers then discuss Soros and connect him to ownership of a pizza place where “this all went on.” They claim Media Matters’ head guy, David Brock, has a boyfriend and that the organization hosts major Democratic Party fundraisers. They mention “rock bands there” performing “live Spoken word dissertations of the love of children,” including references to men in goth drag speaking about their love for children. The speakers acknowledge not wanting to repeat some content and suggest they could pull up more footage of these claims. Speaker 1 asks rhetorically why this is such a bizarre subject and comments on the overall strangeness of the topic. Overall, the transcript presents an interwoven set of unverified allegations involving prominent figures (Epstein’s associates, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, John Podesta, Soros, and Media Matters), claims of underage sex operations, and allegations about events at a pizza place tied to Media Matters, including reportedly graphic performances by performers discussing love of children. The speakers imply a broader conspiracy or cover-up framework linking political figures, advocacy outlets, and entertainment venues to illicit activities.

Speaker 0: "I don't understand why it's a hostile act. I talked to president Clinton... I'm sorry, president, Trump back in 2009 and several times after that. He didn't think that it was a hoax then. In fact, he helped me. He got on the phone. He told me things that were helping our investigation." Speaker 1: "The only thing... Trump is the only person who, in 02/2009, picked up the phone and said, let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. I'll tell you what you need to know and was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information that checked out and that helped us. And then we didn't have to take a deposition of him." "So Do you know if there's any truth to James Patterson's claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar A Lago?" Speaker 0: "I've definitely heard that." Speaker 2: "Epstein was inappropriate with the member's daughter. I went to mister Trump and he threw him right out." Speaker 3: "So it's your understanding then that president Trump didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to?" Speaker 0: "That is correct." Speaker 2: "Epstein liked stars... He loaned Clinton his plane at least on four occasions and it was, it had to do with the foundation." Speaker 4: "The pilot said Trump was on the plane; it was actually a trip from Mar A Lago to New York, not to the island." Speaker 0: "And our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us then. He didn't treat this as a hoax. I want transparency." Speaker 3: "Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein? No."

The speaker is unsure why their supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and was never a big factor. The speaker believes the credible information has been given. They contrast the Epstein case with the "Mueller witch hunt" and the Steele dossier, which they claim was all fake. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. They suggest that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep it going. They state that if there is any credible information, it should be released.

Speaker 0 pressed: 'Did you tell the attorney general that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?' Speaker 1 responded: 'I have never spoken to president Trump about the Epstein files.' Speaker 1: 'The attorney general and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted by our team.' Speaker 1: 'And we have released where president Trump's name is the files.' Speaker 1: 'During many conversations that the attorney general and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed' Speaker 0: 'Question is simple.' Speaker 0: 'Who' Speaker 0: 'Did you tell the attorney general that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?' Speaker 1: 'Why don't you try spelling it out' Speaker 0: 'Yes or no? Use' Speaker 0: 'the alphabet.' Speaker 0: 'Yes or no?' Speaker 1: 'No. A b c.' Speaker 0: 'Question has been asked and answered.' Speaker 0: 'You've not answered it, and we will take your evasiveness as a consciousness of guilt.'

Speaker 0 from Fox News asks Senator Durbin why he won't subpoena Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. Senator Durbin claims to have no knowledge or interest in the issue, stating that it has never been raised to him. Speaker 0 mentions that Senator Blackburn has wanted to subpoena the flight logs but there hasn't been a vote in the committee. Speaker 0 questions if Senator Durbin is curious about high-profile individuals potentially involved in illegal activities, but Senator Durbin dismisses the question and thanks Fox News for their time. Speaker 0 persists in asking if Senator Durbin will take action, but the conversation abruptly ends with Speaker 1 calling Durbin a liar.

Senator Dick Durbin is being accused of covering up for Jeffrey Epstein, a deceased child trafficker. Senator Marsha Blackburn attempted to subpoena Epstein's flight log, but Durbin blocked it. The public wants to know who was on Epstein's jet and who visited his island, especially since Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's jet multiple times. Durbin's office claims they didn't have enough time to schedule a vote on the subpoena, but they should make time. Epstein had surveillance videos and hard drives seized by the FBI, suggesting he had connections to intelligence agencies. This raises concerns about the government's lack of interest in combating international sex trafficking. The situation is seen as hypocritical, as those involved claim to care about women and children.

The speaker questions the lack of transparency and public disclosure regarding the Jeffrey Epstein case, specifically the flight logs and videos from Epstein's house. They express frustration that despite the need for information from organizations like the FBI, it is not being provided. The speaker finds it absurd that they are unable to obtain this information despite existing laws and expectations.

Speaker 1 questions the lack of disclosure regarding charges against Sam Bankman Fried. Speaker 0 confirms the existence of a memo recommending charges but states it has not been sent. Speaker 1 expresses frustration and suggests involving the Department of Justice. Speaker 0 mentions the need to keep investigative matters confidential. Speaker 1 concludes by stating they will follow up on the matter.

The transcript captures a short, informal discussion about Donald Trump’s handling of the Epstein files and the broader question of whether presidents protect rich and powerful people at the expense of victims in sex-crime cases. The dialogue unfolds between Speaker 0 and Speaker 1, with a recent history/politics flavor and an on-the-record moment later in the exchange. Speaker 0 begins by asking Speaker 1 how Trump fought to avoid releasing the Epstein files, noting that Trump initially indicated a release but then reversed course. Speaker 1 responds noncommittally, suggesting that Trump “probably” had friends who were involved and that Trump “saved them” from trouble. The question is framed as whether this constitutes presidential conduct—protecting powerful people rather than victims. Speaker 0 presses further, asking if protecting rich and powerful people over sex-crime victims is appropriate for a president, and whether such behavior is common in presidential history. Speaker 1 counters by pointing to historical examples, stating that many presidents have favored their friends and families, adding that while JFK’s affairs were noted, he claims Kennedy “got caught,” implying possible crimes. Speaker 0 acknowledges Kennedy’s infidelity but questions whether there were crimes, while Speaker 1 reiterates the point that Kennedy “got caught,” and asserts that such behavior is not becoming of a United States president. The conversation shifts toward evaluating current leadership: Speaker 0 asks whether Speaker 1 agrees with Trump’s protection of powerful individuals at the expense of crime victims. Speaker 1 answers, “All depends on who the powerful people are,” suggesting a conditional view rather than a blanket condemnation or approval. The discussion then veers to the expectation that a president should serve all Americans, not just the wealthy, and Speaker 0 reiterates the moral question. Speaker 1, initially evasive about personal details, asserts that they are a state representative and holds a badge, claiming to work for their country. The exchange ends with a sense of irony in the narrator’s commentary: the “moral of the story” being that it’s acceptable for Donald Trump to protect rich and powerful men because he himself is rich and powerful, effectively equating protection of the powerful with personal parity. Overall, the transcript presents a back-and-forth debate about why presidents might shield powerful individuals, how historical precedents factor into current judgments, and whether leadership should be equally accountable to all segments of society, ending with a skeptical, wrap-up sentiment about the perceived fairness of such protections.

The speaker asks about the FBI's failure to investigate claims and the specific actions taken regarding the investigation of CSAM involvement. The other speaker acknowledges the interest in child sex exploitation and human trafficking. They mention working with prosecutors on the Epstein case but admit it has been a while since they reviewed it. The speaker emphasizes the importance of investigating the sex trafficking ring and obtaining the flight logs. They express the need for transparency and mention the redacted logs. The other speaker acknowledges the request for more information and promises to consult their team. The speaker highlights the lack of resolution in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial and the survivors' claims of a cover-up, urging the need for accountability.

During the judiciary committee hearing, we faced some challenges. We aimed to obtain subpoenas for Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs and Sotomayor's book deal, which were not previously reported. Unfortunately, the chairman blocked our requests, which goes against the committee's intended process.

Speaker 1 questions why House Republicans haven't released Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book, which is under the FBI director's control, to expose alleged pedophiles. When asked if he would declassify the Epstein files, Speaker 1 says he would, but expresses concern about potentially affecting people's lives if the information is phony. Speaker 0 says the issue is bigger than Epstein, 9/11, JFK, or RFK, and asks who is on the Epstein tapes and in the black books, questioning why this information has been hidden. Speaker 3 mentions Donald Trump has discussed the DOJ potentially releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Speaker 2 claims that the release is under review, following a directive by President Trump, stating that everything will come out to the public because Americans have a right to know.

Senator Dick Durbin is being accused of covering up for Jeffrey Epstein, a deceased child trafficker. Senator Marsha Blackburn attempted to subpoena Epstein's flight log, but Durbin blocked it. The public wants to know who was on Epstein's jet and who visited his island, especially considering Bill Clinton's frequent trips. Durbin's office claims they didn't have enough time to schedule a vote on the subpoena, but they managed to find time to search Melania's underwear drawer. Epstein's seized surveillance videos and hard drives suggest government disinterest in combating sex trafficking. This implies Epstein had connections with intelligence agencies, and Durbin is accused of covering up the entire operation. It's hypocritical for them to claim concern for women and children.

Speaker 0 asks if the FD 1023 and the 17 recordings will be provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee to assess the evidence of Joe Biden taking a $5,000,000 bribe. Speaker 1 responds that they will work with the committee and provide the information within the process. Speaker 0 insists on a direct answer, but Speaker 1 repeats that they will take it back and work with them. Speaker 0 concludes that Speaker 1 is not answering the question.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor. The speaker believes credible information has been given and references the Mueller investigation and steel dossier as examples of fake information. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed, suggesting only bad people and fake news want to keep it going. The speaker states that if there is credible information, it should be released. The speaker is then asked a question about AI.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss subpoenas for phone records of eight sitting United States senators. A joke states, "Hypothetically, senator, maybe they didn't recognize any of the names... That was a joke." They debate whether there are copies of the subpoena applications for the eight senators; Speaker 0 says, "I can't discuss anything regarding the" and "I can't discuss whether there is or is not a pending investigation." Speaker 1 raises liability concerns for telecoms, FBI agents, and a possible special counsel. The hypothetical: "If I were your special counsel... and I'm trying to get the phone records of a sitting United States senator, is that something you would expect me to tell you as attorney general of The United States?" Speaker 0: "They better have. Yeah." The segment ends with, "switch to another subject in the twelve minutes that I have left since everybody else got to go over."

A senator questions Deputy Director Abadi about allegations of a $5 million bribery scheme involving President Biden and his family. Abadi refuses to comment on the existence of a report or 17 voice recordings related to the allegations. The senator accuses the FBI of stonewalling and damaging its reputation. Abadi maintains that they operate within established parameters and will work with the committee to provide information. The senator criticizes the FBI for not being accountable and demands the release of the report and recordings. Abadi avoids directly answering questions about the investigation and the informant's reliability. The senator expresses concern that the evidence is being covered up by Democrats and the media. The exchange becomes heated and ends with the senator calling Abadi's behavior disgraceful.