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Megyn Kelly discusses the rising violence in America, highlighting a recent incident where three SWAT officers were shot in Philadelphia while serving a murder warrant. The suspect is dead, but the officers are expected to survive. This incident reflects a broader trend of increasing crime rates in major cities, particularly under district attorneys like Philadelphia's Larry Krasner, who advocates for decarceration. Rafael Mangual, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, emphasizes that Philadelphia has seen significant increases in homicides since Krasner took office, with 2021 marking an all-time high. Mangual points out that crime is not evenly distributed across cities, with certain areas experiencing concentrated violence. He notes that police officers are disproportionately affected by crime in these high-crime areas, leading to increased danger in their profession. The conversation shifts to the changing rhetoric around policing, with Democrats now quietly restoring funding to police departments after initially advocating for defunding. Mangual argues that the Democratic Party has made opposition to police a central part of its identity, which has led to a lack of appreciation for the police force. Kelly shares a personal story about her brother, a retired police officer, who faced violence while serving his community. Mangual adds that the narrative surrounding police often overlooks the dangers they face and the mental health struggles that arise from their work. He highlights the psychological toll of policing, particularly in high-crime areas, and the need for a more balanced discussion about public safety. The discussion also touches on the impact of recent policies aimed at decarceration and the consequences of these policies on crime rates. Mangual argues that the rise in violent crime cannot solely be attributed to the pandemic, as increases were noted prior to 2020. He suggests that the trend toward decarceration and the fear of policing have contributed to the current crisis. In a later segment, Kelly interviews Jennifer Castro about the inclusion of transgender women in women's disc golf leagues. Castro expresses concern over the competitive advantages that trans women have over biological women, citing specific instances where trans women have won significant competitions. She reveals that the Professional Disc Golf Association does not conduct testosterone testing for trans competitors, raising questions about fairness in the sport. Castro's efforts to challenge this policy highlight the broader implications of gender identity in competitive sports and the potential impact on female athletes.

The discussion centers on the call for police defunding by movements like Black Lives Matter, juxtaposed with rising crime rates. Roland Fryer and Rafael Mangual analyze the complexities of policing and community frustrations. Fryer highlights historical issues of race and police brutality, while Mangual emphasizes a narrative that paints policing as fundamentally flawed. They discuss the progressive prosecutor movement, which seeks to reduce incarceration for non-violent offenses, arguing it may overlook the consequences of leniency on crime rates. Fryer’s research reveals significant racial disparities in non-lethal police force, with Black individuals more likely to experience force even when compliant. However, he found no racial differences in officer-involved shootings, suggesting different incentives at play. Both experts express concern over the recent spike in crime following protests and police pullbacks, stressing the need for reform that builds trust and addresses lower-level uses of force. They conclude that while there are paths forward, political will for substantial change remains uncertain.