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The speaker was asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for an intelligence agency and why a minute was missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death. Regarding the client list, the speaker stated the file is sitting on their desk to be reviewed, along with the JFK and MLK files. The tens of thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein and will never be released. The speaker has no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Evidence showed he committed suicide. The missing minute from the video was due to the Bureau of Prisons resetting the video every night, and every night should have the same minute missing. They are looking for that video to release.

The speaker raises concerns about the power held by the FBI director, who possesses evidence and tapes from Jeffrey Epstein's house. They question whether it is appropriate for one person to have such information, suggesting that Epstein may have been an intelligence officer. The speaker argues that if this scandal involved ordinary people, their names would be known and they would be in jail. They criticize the FBI for not releasing all the information and highlight the agency's handling of Hunter Biden's laptop as an example of potential favoritism. The speaker urges a focus on why the FBI is withholding information rather than speculating about the individuals involved.

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

The speaker raises concerns about the power held by the FBI director, who allegedly possesses all the evidence and tapes from Jeffrey Epstein's house. They question whether it is appropriate for one person to have such information and suggest that Epstein may have been an intelligence officer. The speaker argues that if the scandal involved ordinary people, all the names would be known and they would be in jail. They criticize the FBI for not releasing everything and compare the situation to the Hunter Biden laptop case. The speaker concludes by urging a focus on why the FBI is withholding information rather than speculating about the individuals involved.

The speaker claims that if videos existed of someone committing felonies on an island, the public would have seen them. They assert that there are tens of thousands of videos of Jeffrey Epstein with children or child pornography and hundreds of victims. They state that no victim will ever get released due to the volume of evidence. The speaker concludes that the FBI is diligently processing this evidence.

The conversation centers on the Epstein file controversy, the DOJ's handling of it, and what the speakers see as systemic failures and political risk for Donald Trump and allied figures. - The Epstein/file issue is framed as predictable and frustrating. Alex Jones notes a “slow drip of nothing” and calls the initial promise of full file disclosure a pattern of “promise something, deliver nothing.” Pam Bondi’s statement that “the files were on my desk” is discussed as an apparent misstep or staged moment, but the core point is that large amounts of material are not being released despite public promises. - The discourse questions where the files actually reside and who controls access. The claim that a “truckload of files” existed and was hidden at DOJ is rejected as a mischaracterization; the speakers emphasize that the FBI and DOJ have files, but access and disclosure have been hampered by internal political dynamics. They highlight the tension between the Southern District of New York and the DOJ, noting that SDNY answers to the DOJ and the Attorney General, thereby questioning the premise that one regional office is independently sabotaging access. - There is a persistent critique of DOJ leadership and governance. The argument is that DOJ has not been “rooted out of corruption,” with mid-level and high-level managers and appointees still in place, propagating practices that the speakers deem contrary to transparency and accountability. They point to supposed failures by individuals such as Cash Patel and Pam Bondi in relying on FBI briefings rather than verifiable records, suggesting that power in intelligence agencies is still too dependent on information control. - The Epstein files are treated as emblematic of a broader issue: a two-tier or selective justice system. The speakers argue that there’s a pattern whereby powerful individuals have access to information and protection, while the public lacks full visibility. They mention that Trump’s response and the way the files have been handled have become a larger “Russiagate-like” narrative, with Epstein serving as a lightning rod for accusations of corruption and cover-up. - The political dynamic is central. Several participants emphasize that Trump’s stance and the responses of his allies are under intense scrutiny. They discuss the risk that Trump’s association with the Epstein disclosures could become a political liability if the files aren’t released. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tom Massey are mentioned as consistent voices pushing for full disclosure, while Roger Stone’s warnings about CIA and foreign involvement in the Epstein nexus are cited as supporting the view that a larger, international financial/transnational network may be implicated. - There is criticism of how the media and political opponents handle the issue. The speakers claim Democrats are using hearings to turn the Epstein matter into a broader political weapon and to portray Trump as obstructive or complicit, regardless of the factual state of file disclosure. They argue that the public is being led by a PR war, with “photoshopped” or redacted material used to frame narratives rather than to reveal truth. - The discussion turns toward accountability and remedies. The speakers insist that federal law requires the release of the Epstein files by a deadline, and that failing to comply constitutes a constitutional or institutional crisis. They argue that Congress lacks direct enforcement power and must consider funding or other leverage to compel compliance, noting the apparent reluctance of Congress to act decisively. - There are predictions about personnel changes and institutional reform. Dan Bongino is discussed as likely to depart from his DOJ-related role, with Todd Blanche as the lead prosecutor taking heat for not meeting deadlines. Andrew Bailey is floated as a potential replacement. The broader implication is that there will be a shake-up in DOJ and possibly FBI leadership in the near term, though the speakers acknowledge uncertainty about how far reforms will go or whether entrenched interests will impede real change. - The Epstein matter is used to illustrate how compromises and cover-ups operate across power structures. The speakers argue that the problem isn’t just the existence of the files but how the system treats those files—how access is controlled, how redactions are justified, and how political narratives are constructed around high-profile investigations. Harmony Dillon and Liz Harrington are cited as voices who underscore the need for mid-level reform and more transparency, suggesting that the deepest issues lie in organizational culture and incentives rather than in isolated acts by a few individuals. - A broader reflection on American governance finishes the discussion. The speakers warn that a failure to release the Epstein files or to purge corrupt practices could deepen distrust in federal institutions and threaten the legitimacy of the government. They suggest that if reform stalls, the country might devolve into a state-by-state dynamic or other less cohesive arrangements, as confidence in a functioning central government erodes. In summary, the transcript frames the Epstein file disclosures as a litmus test for DOJ integrity and political accountability. It portrays a pattern of delayed or selective disclosure, questions about who controls information within the FBI/DOJ, and a risk that political calculations are interfering with lawful obligations. It also foresees significant leadership changes and intensified scrutiny of the department in the near future, with Epstein serving as a focal point for broader critiques of how power and information are managed in the United States.

Remember when I promised to release the Epstein, JFK, and 9/11 files? It's been a while, and still nothing. I put Anna Paulina and Pam Bondi on it, even created a committee, which seemed unnecessary just to release files. They handed over binders to DC Draino and company, but the information was heavily redacted, supposedly to protect victims' names and due to the FBI's concerns, even though we oversee the FBI. Then national security became the excuse for more redactions, and the whole thing just stalled. Now, we're moving onto releasing the JFK files, while the Epstein files remain hidden. And now Pam Bondi is investigating antisemitism on college campuses. So, I just have one question: Where are those files?

I'm at the airport, and I want to discuss the Epstein files. I met with President Trump, Vice President Vance, Attorney General Bondi, and FBI Director Patel this morning at the White House. They presented me with a binder labeled "Epstein Files Phase One," ordered by Bondi and Patel. We were expecting bombshells, but the binder didn't contain any. Bondi mentioned that she had expected to find "juicy stuff" but didn't. Despite this, they prepared the binder for release, fulfilling the President's order for transparency. However, late last night, Bondi received a call from a source within the FBI, Southern District of New York, revealing that hundreds, if not thousands, of other documents and files were being hidden from everyone. They were hiding it from the President, the Vice President, the Attorney General, the FBI Director, and you.

Speaker 0 states, "We we we as the American people deserve to have every Epstein file released with no redaction whatsoever, period." They add, "They gotta make it right," and remind, "And we, the American people, ran on transparency. We deserve to see the entire client list. Yeah." The speaker calls for "Every document the government has regarding the Epstein files, we, the American people, should have on an easy to access website immediately in a very, very quick fashion." They assert, "I'm I'm pushing for that both privately and publicly, just so you know. Yeah." They conclude that "Secondly, there there probably are a lot of destroyed documents. I think"

The speaker discusses public outrage following claims from the Department of Justice and FBI that there was no Epstein client list, no blackmail, and that Epstein killed himself. Pam Bondi stated she had a file to review, including JFK and MLK files. While there may not be a single client list, Bill Clinton's name appeared in Epstein's phone log 21 times, and flight logs show numerous trips to Epstein's island. Bondi said flight logs with many names would be released, but they have not been. Bondi stated that thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein, but reports indicate Epstein's residences were rigged with video cameras capturing footage of bedrooms and bathrooms. The FBI seized hundreds of hard drives, USBs, CDs, and backup servers from Epstein's properties, some labeled "nude girl pics." Bondi had no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Epstein had over $500 million and three US passports, plus an Australian passport listing Saudi Arabia as his home country. The speaker concludes that the current narrative attempts to rewrite what is known about Epstein and that the hope for transparency has been snuffed out.

Millions are waiting for transparency in the Jeffrey Epstein saga. The Attorney General has stated there is an active cover-up. Select media influencers were given the first batch of Epstein files, but Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna hasn't received the documents, and Pam Bondi says the FBI is withholding files from her office until tomorrow. There are questions as to why the Southern District of New York and the NYC FBI office didn't comply with releasing documents, especially with James Comey's daughter being the lead prosecutor in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. Attorney General Pam Bondi released what she had for transparency, and Mike Cernovich confirmed there are bad actors at the SDNY and the FBI New York City field office withholding documents. I hope Kash Patel follows through with releasing the files, and I've called for Donald Trump and Elon Musk to go to the FBI offices in New York City and find out who didn't comply with this larger disclosure.

The speaker expresses frustration over the sealed list of Jeffrey Epstein and questions why it is being kept hidden. They believe that releasing the list would have severe consequences, causing society to crumble and eroding trust in governments and the wealthy. The speaker suggests that the list is being withheld because it contains the names of powerful individuals who do not want their involvement exposed. They advocate for the release of the list, even if it means taking a step back in order to move forward.

Judicial Watch is suing for the release of the Epstein files, including the client list and related documents held by the Justice Department and the FBI. They claim they have been stonewalled and that their FOIA request has not been answered. Judicial Watch states that going to federal court is the best way to determine what records exist, which are being withheld, and the scope of the search for these records. They assert their aim is to uncover government secrets related to the Epstein scandal that the government does not want the public to know.

The speaker discusses the existence of Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book and suggests that the FBI has control over it. They also mention the suppression of the Nashville school shooting manifesto by the FBI and the DOJ's influence over local law enforcement funding. The speaker proposes that President Trump should release the Black Book and other withheld information. They criticize the overclassification of documents by the intelligence community to protect the deep state. The speaker advocates for a central power to declassify information and ensure transparency.

Speaker 0 from Fox News asks Senator Durbin why he won't subpoena Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. Senator Durbin claims to have no knowledge or interest in the issue, stating that it has never been raised to him. Speaker 0 mentions that Senator Blackburn has wanted to subpoena the flight logs but there hasn't been a vote in the committee. Speaker 0 questions if Senator Durbin is curious about high-profile individuals potentially involved in illegal activities, but Senator Durbin dismisses the question and thanks Fox News for their time. Speaker 0 persists in asking if Senator Durbin will take action, but the conversation abruptly ends with Speaker 1 calling Durbin a liar.

The speaker confirms that all the Epstein files are missing. They state the FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. The speaker claims no victim's video will ever be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is described as diligently reviewing the videos. The speaker then states they haven't seen that statement.

The transcript centers on a long-form discussion of the Epstein case, the alleged “deep state,” FOIA operations, and political maneuvering around Trump, with frequent calls to aggressively release and pursue Epstein-related documents and other investigations. The speakers assert that the FOIA department is being used to shield deep-state ties and that many federal offices are filled with anti-Trump figures who have prevented full disclosure. - Epstein files and the role of the deep state - The speakers claim the Epstein files are being selectively redacted by FOIA departments to conceal deep-state connections. They state that FOIA personnel are controlled by deep-state actors and that Epstein’s case involves a “fleet of aircraft” and operations linked to major power centers. They argue Epstein’s activities connect to money laundering, information laundering, and a broader set of deep-state assets and operations. - They propose a remedy: appoint Tom Fitton as special counsel on the Epstein files, arguing he “knows how FOIA really works,” understands key personnel, and has litigated Epstein-related cases for years. They assert this would restore public confidence and expedite the exposure of Democratic ties and other actors alleged to be involved. - They advocate for Trump to have executive-privilege-style powers to declassify and release Epstein materials, suggesting a broad interpretation of “Epstein file law” that would allow him to disclose or appoint an ombudsman with power to release materials at will. They emphasize the need to disclose Democratic ties and to hold press conferences when releasing documents, avoiding the use of fake documents or videos. - Specific figures and institutions named - Kash Patel is cited as saying there are “open files on a dozen plus coconspirators” and as someone who has noted alleged misdirections by those handling Epstein-related material. - Kyle Serafin and Phil Kennedy are mentioned as documenting a person at the FBI capacity who is “an anti-Trump advocate,” implying that deep-state appointments control FOIA and related processes. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss replacing FOIA and related personnel who are deeply implicated; they specifically name Tom Fitton as the ideal choice and entertain other high-profile figures like Tulsi Gabbard as potential custodians of the Epstein disclosures. - Tulsi Gabbard is described as being in charge of broader investigations tied to the Epstein files and other major political issues (elections, COVID-19, etc.). They also reference “Epstein files” intersecting with other investigations they attribute to the deep state. - Epstein, Maxwell, and allied networks - Epstein is described as deeply embedded with Western intelligence agencies (French, Israeli, UK, and US) and tied to Robert Maxwell, with Maxwell’s daughter linked to Epstein. Epstein is portrayed as having been “recruited by Bill Barr” and as a central figure in a long-running intelligence and blackmail operation. - The discussion links Epstein to Leslie Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder) and a French talent agency, portraying these connections as part of a large, interconnected network involved in money laundering, arms trafficking, blackmail, and intelligence work. - The speakers insist that Epstein’s activities extended to the late 1990s and beyond, including alleged involvement in “Shutters” in Santa Monica and other high-profile cases, with a consistent pattern of using underage girls and blackmail to exert influence. - They emphasize a broader motive: exposing the “deep state” to vindicate Trump and indict deep-state actors who allegedly engaged in illicit operations, including foreign intelligence services and Western governments. - The broader political frame and potential indictments - The Epstein files are presented as a potential hinge for indicting a wide array of figures across political lines, including references to Comey, Mueller, Hillary Clinton-era actors, and other “rogue actors” who allegedly hindered investigations. - The conversation ties Epstein to broader themes: the 2020 election, COVID policies, and anti-Trump actions by the “deep state.” They contend that the Epstein disclosures could demonstrate the depth of state interference in political processes and media, making Democrats and their institutions targets of accountability. - They argue the Epstien files could show criminal activity by multiple national actors, including Israeli, UK, and French components, and could reveal coordinated efforts to derail Trump and manipulate media narratives. - The Candace Owens angle and related criticisms - A substantial portion of the dialogue critiques Candace Owens, alleging she is running a “CIA-style” operation that distracts from the true conspiracy around the deep state and Tarantifa, and that she manipulates narratives related to Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. - They accuse Owens of shifting narratives, fabricating alibis, and promoting disinformation, calling her a “SIOP” (psychological operation) and alleging her behind-the-scenes connections to MI6 or other international actors through her husband (George Farmer) and other associates. - They recount multiple incidents where Owens purportedly changed stories about meetings, alibis, and involvement in various investigations, asserting she uses “receipts” selectively and inconsistently to support divergent claims. - The speakers allege that Owens’s public warfare against Trump and TP USA is part of a broader intelligence operation intended to disrupt conservative momentum, link to Royal/MI6 circles, and undermine investigations into the deep state and its networks. - Tyler Robinson case and media dynamics - They describe Tyler Robinson as a Middle American figure whose transformation into a political actor is portrayed as a product of online radicalization and Tarantifa-linked influences. They claim there was a concerted effort to spoon-feed disinformation about Robinson and Candace Owens’ involvement. - They argue this is part of a larger pattern of media manipulation and disinformation designed to distract from real conspiracies and to target Trump and conservative movements. - Strategy and messaging guidance - The speakers advocate for Trump to go on the offensive with Epstein, releasing comprehensive, verified documentation, and pushing accountability for “rogue actors” in the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and the NSA. - They stress the need for aggressive prosecution and the appointment of trusted figures to lead the Epstein disclosures, arguing that this could restore public confidence and pivot the political conversation toward accountability for the deep state. - They urge addressing the statute of limitations issues in COVID, January 6, and 2020 election-related cases before the window closes in early 2026, warning that delays by Bondi, Blanche, and others could jeopardize prosecutions and political support. - Promotional and logistical notes - The dialogue includes frequent mentions of promoting Alex Jones programs, products, and stores (alexjonesstore.com and infowarsstore.com) to fund operations, along with appeals to listeners to support the broadcasts financially and through purchases, framing financial support as essential to sustaining investigations, media efforts, and broader political action. In sum, the transcript presents an entangled, aggressively conspiratorial narrative: a claim that Epstein’s files illuminate a vast, deeply embedded deep-state apparatus spanning multiple nations and agencies; a call to appoint trusted figures (notably Tom Fitton) to supervise full disclosure; a push for Trump to declassify and publicly prosecute the implicated actors; a harsh critique of Candace Owens as part of a disinformation ecosystem; and a broader strategy to use Epstein, along with related investigations, to dismantle perceived institutional corruption while fueling political narratives and fundraising.

The speaker expresses frustration with the official narrative surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, believing the US government dismissed legitimate questions. They claim the DOJ didn't release incriminating sex videos because they don't exist, alleging the original search warrant was designed to protect Epstein, suggesting a cover-up since 2007. The speaker questions the source of Epstein's wealth and whether he was working on behalf of intelligence services, possibly foreign, and specifically mentions Israel. They argue that asking these questions is not anti-Semitic or hateful, but a right of citizens to understand if foreign governments were acting against US interests. They highlight the need to openly discuss Epstein's connections and address the possibility of blackmail operations. The speaker demands answers from the government, asserting that citizens deserve transparency and should not be insulted for seeking it.

The FBI handed over hundreds of pages of documents, but a source revealed more evidence was in the Southern District of New York. Thousands of pages of documents were then received. The FBI is reviewing them, and Kash Patel will provide a detailed report on why the documents were withheld. The initial documents included flight logs, names, and victim names, but more was expected. The goal is to protect the Epstein victims, of which over 254 have been identified, while also providing transparency. The Biden administration allegedly did nothing with the documents, which raises questions. Redactions will be made to protect victims, national security, and grand jury information. The public will know what is redacted and why, unlike past practices. The speaker believes the American people have a right to know about the Epstein files, the JFK files, and the Martin Luther King files.

The speaker claims that if videos existed of someone committing felonies on an island, they would be released. They assert that there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography and hundreds of victims. The speaker states that no victim information will be released due to the volume of evidence. They claim the FBI is diligently going through this evidence.

The speaker asks about the FBI's failure to investigate claims and the specific actions taken regarding the investigation of CSAM involvement. The other speaker acknowledges the interest in child sex exploitation and human trafficking. They mention working with prosecutors on the Epstein case but admit it has been a while since they reviewed it. The speaker emphasizes the importance of investigating the sex trafficking ring and obtaining the flight logs. They express the need for transparency and mention the redacted logs. The other speaker acknowledges the request for more information and promises to consult their team. The speaker highlights the lack of resolution in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial and the survivors' claims of a cover-up, urging the need for accountability.

The speaker expresses concern that the Epstein files have not been released despite orders from the president and attorney general. They fear the "deep state" may have shredded documents before the new administration could access them. They hope someone has a copy of the files, as Anna Paulina Luna's task force is frustrated by the lack of release. The speaker believes the "deep state" covers its tracks and wouldn't leave incriminating evidence. Their concern is whether the government was involved with Epstein, using videos to blackmail influential people. If the government knew about the crimes and did nothing, the speaker believes the American people would not be okay with it. They don't believe any cover-up would be out of affection for figures like the Clintons, but rather to protect the agencies involved.

Speaker 1 questions why House Republicans haven't released Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book, which is under the FBI director's control, to expose alleged pedophiles. When asked if he would declassify the Epstein files, Speaker 1 says he would, but expresses concern about potentially affecting people's lives if the information is phony. Speaker 0 says the issue is bigger than Epstein, 9/11, JFK, or RFK, and asks who is on the Epstein tapes and in the black books, questioning why this information has been hidden. Speaker 3 mentions Donald Trump has discussed the DOJ potentially releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Speaker 2 claims that the release is under review, following a directive by President Trump, stating that everything will come out to the public because Americans have a right to know.

Speaker 0 from Fox News asks Senator Durbin why he won't subpoena Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. Senator Durbin claims to know nothing about the issue and says it has never been raised with him. Speaker 0 mentions that Senator Blackburn has wanted to subpoena the flight logs but there hasn't been a vote in the committee. Speaker 0 questions if Senator Durbin is curious about high-profile individuals who may be involved in illegal activities, but Senator Durbin dismisses the topic, stating it's the first time anyone has brought it up. Speaker 0 asks if Senator Durbin is interested in pursuing the matter, but there is no clear response.

The speaker expresses frustration over the sealed list of Jeffrey Epstein and questions why it is being kept hidden. They believe that releasing the list would have severe consequences, causing society to crumble and eroding trust in governments and the wealthy. The speaker suggests that the list is being withheld because it contains the names of powerful individuals who do not want it to be made public. They advocate for the release of the list, even if it means taking a step back in order to move forward.