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“the biggest problem in our culture is to deny that there is a demonic realm, pretend like there isn't.” They list hallmarks: “Disorder, distraction, chaos, violence, hate, division.” They argue Satan would go after Hollywood to “influence … producers to create films … with an underlying message … normalization of immoral activity.” They point to Friends as an example with “an ugly sexual ethic” that could lead to casual sex, and say Hollywood products open us up to the occult. They argue subversion targets leaders and children: pastors’ scandals, teachers, “libraries doing children's readings of and drag shows to little kids” to capture minds young. They discuss why evil persists; “If you believe in Jesus, you gotta believe in angels. You gotta believe in demons. You gotta believe in heaven. You gotta believe in hell.” They cite: “forty percent of Americans have had an experience that they can only attribute to a miracle of God,” and the rest may know someone who has. They propose to notice distractions; “you will experience the supernatural” in “forty eight hours.”

Dannion Brinkley shares his near-death experiences, emphasizing that no one truly dies. He describes the process of transitioning from the physical body to a spiritual realm, where a life review occurs. Brinkley's psychic abilities emerged after his brush with death, during which he received visions of future events. Despite initial confusion, he now embraces his psychic gifts. His message revolves around the importance of understanding the reasons behind our actions and maintaining dignity, direction, and purpose in life. Ultimately, he believes in the eternal nature of the human spirit.

I believe in God, a supernatural being who created and sustains the universe. Christianity and science are not contradictory; in fact, Christianity gave me my subject as a scientist. The atheist argument that we must choose between God and science is flawed. God is not a scientific explanation, but rather a different kind of explanation. The fine-tuning of the fundamental forces of nature points to a supernatural plan. Reason and morality cannot be explained without the existence of God. The existence of Jesus Christ and his resurrection provide evidence for the existence and nature of God. Ultimately, God is not a theory, but a person whom I have come to know and trust.

I was involved in a cult that attacked Christians. I channeled demons who wanted to cause chaos. At 16, I met Satan himself, and our cult started specifically targeting Christians, including clergy. However, we couldn't harm Christians who were actively praying for protection. This made me angry and curious about the power Christians had to nullify demons. The Lord's prayer provides perfect protection, and nothing can get through. I find comfort in knowing that Satan is defeated and has no power. I wish more people understood this.

Lee Strombold introduces the interview after noting, "So you've written a book. I don't do a lot of book interviews, but couldn't resist this one." The discussion centers on "Seeing the supernatural, investigating angels, demons, mystical dreams, near death encounters, and other mysteries of the unseen world." The host says, "I think a lot of us sense or know on some level, in fact, I think everybody knows on some level that there is a world that science can't measure or quantify." They add: "You know, that there's there's stuff that we can't explain." "Yeah. But it's it's no less real for our inability to explain it." The host concludes, "So let's let's go through the list."

Lee Strobel argues that the West has a “religion” of scientism, denying the reality of supernatural experiences. He blends journalism and empiricism to explore miracles, near-death experiences, mystical dreams, and angels/demons. He cites cases: John G. Paton’s island incident with warriors and white-clad figures; his own vision at age 12; repeated theme that some experiences point to heaven and salvation by grace. He discusses angels as God's messengers, guardian possibilities, and warnings against praying to them, preferring prayers to God. Demons, fallen angels, Satan’s activity, exorcisms, and possession vs oppression; a psychiatrist witness (Richard Gallagher) with cases of levitation, languages, and attacks. He reviews miracles documented in peer-reviewed journals (blindness to sight, MS healing Barbara), and scientifically studied miracles in Mozambique and Brazil. Near-death experiences and deathbed visions show life review, encounters with angels, and evidence of the soul. He argues for humility before the supernatural and personal spiritual readiness.

We have lost contact with the divine, whether you call it spirit, anima mundi, or the holy spirit. Many people only understand the material world, so the divine communicates through physical manifestations. This includes experiences like UFO sightings, which provide tangible evidence that resonates with our understanding. While some individuals may have spiritual revelations, most rely on empirical proof. The appearance of these phenomena in the physical realm captures the attention of those who typically dismiss spiritual experiences, as it aligns with their need for concrete evidence. This communication from the spirit world speaks to us in a language we recognize: the physical.

Dan Duvall returns to the deep end conversation, weaving together time travel lore, dark esoteric systems, and practical ministry aims. The discussion touches on government-grade mind control, ancient and modern occult practices, and a vision for how believers might respond with deliverance and deprogramming. Key points and claims from the transcript: - Montauk chair and time travel with children - Dan recounts two Montauk survivors who independently drew the same depiction of a Montauk chair. The chair’s function, as described by these sources, involved activating a child’s psychic power to interface with the chair, open a portal or jump gate, and send people through timelines with coordinates. The adults who traveled allegedly returned with their minds “snapped,” while children were preferred for their pliability. - The claimed outcomes included access to timelines around events such as the cross in Jesus’ time and alternate histories (e.g., Germany’s victory in World War II). The survivor testimonies point to a physically seeded, technologically described process with spiritual overtones. - Epigenetic memories and deep memory layers - The discussion shifts to encounters with epigenetic memories or memories from before embodiment. Dan emphasizes experiences drawn from video game imagery (Assassin’s Creed) as a framework for discussing deep, generational memory and the persistence of dark activity in human bloodlines, including Genesis 6-type incursions. - The theme recurs: the infiltration of human bloodlines by dark forces never stopped, and there are claims of underground activity related to sacred sites (Temple Mount) and “Nephilim mothers” who birth hybrids through ritual, with a later council of thirteen in subterranean spaces. - Temple Mount, underground realms, and portals - Dan describes deep underground work beneath the Temple Mount as a nexus for ley lines and “portal access points” to multiple places, including a Babylonian/underground realm. There is mention of a Nephilim hybrid council and the possibility of travel to Hollow Earth and other astral/portal realms, with physical and spiritual dimensions interacting. - He ties these underground operations to mind control programs (MKUltra and related projects), asserting that such programming crafts responses in politicians and public figures to enable a broader “beast kingdom.” - Epstein, Mengele, and Kabbalah - The Epstein files are discussed as evidence of a broader plan: genetic augmentation, designer babies, and connections to Kabbalah and the Illuminati. He describes Epstein as “Mengele two point o,” a trainer and programmer who embodies these dark genetic and mind-control ambitions. - Dan references Svali (a pseudonymous former member of the Jesuit/Jewish occult networks) who described similar experiments and mind-control techniques, emphasizing the use of genetic augmentation, sex magic, and hybrid birth programs. - Kabbalah vs. Christian theology - A major recurring topic is Kabbalah as a powerful “new age consciousness operating system” that twists biblical concepts. Dan argues that Kabbalah reinterprets Genesis and other biblical texts through the lens of the Babylonian Talmud (Midrash), elevating the serpent (Nakash) to messianic status and promoting twin messiahs (Meshiach ben Yosef and Meshiach ben David), which undermines Christian doctrine of Jesus as the Messiah. - He contrasts Jacob’s ladder in the Bible with the Kabbalistic four-world structure, warning that Kabbalah’s ladder uses Merkabah mysticism and ascension protocols to reach universal consciousness, which Dan sees as a sorcery-based path that diverts from Christ. - Dissociation, mind control, and soul fragments - The conversation delves into dissociation and DID as outcomes of trauma and mind-control programming. Dan explains a dissociative continuum—from daydreaming to dissociative amnesia to full, alternate personalities—arguing that severe trauma in childhood leads to soul fragmentation and parts that can be accessed or “brought forward” in ministry. - He distinguishes trauma-based dissociation from past-life memories or epigenetic memory, though he allows for complex interactions among DNA memory, the human spirit, and preconception or astral experiences. He notes that trauma and ritual abuse can lead to parts with their own narratives and memory banks, sometimes accessible through deliverance or realm-based prayers. - The “beast system” and global governance - The beast system is described as a global governance project—two beasts from Revelation: the beast out of the sea (the antichrist figure) and the beast out of the earth (the false prophet). The goal is to control political, religious, monetary, and societal structures worldwide. - Dan points to historical and literary sources such as Leviathan (the book’s forerunner on massive governance) and discusses how mind control, the secret space program, and genetic engineering contribute to this overarching project. He suggests the beast system seeks to impose a centralized, global order in opposition to Christ’s kingdom. - Time, angels, and heavenly realities - A recurring thread is how spiritual realities intersect with time, memory, and the heavenly realm. Dan discusses the possibility that believers can operate “in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus” even while living in a temporal world, describing superposition and the notion that spiritual realities can coexist with earthly timelines. - He also reflects on angelic hierarchies, noting Michael’s armies, Leviathan, and the general organization of heaven and hellish governance. He suggests that God’s power ultimately prevails, even as darkness pursues a global dominion. - Practical and pastoral aims - A central aim is to scale deprogramming, inner healing, and deliverance ministries to address mind-control programming, SRA trauma, and other spiritual warfare needs. Dan emphasizes that many who have undergone such programming require deprogramming to participate effectively in God’s plans, including ministers, political figures, and Hollywood professionals. - He frames this as a mission to prepare a generation of “power players” who can counter the beast system with the power and authority of Jesus, while offering the hope that, no matter the darkness, God’s plan is superior. - Final exhortations - Dan concludes with a call to pursue extraordinary demonstration of sonship in Christ and to resist the lull of cynicism or despair. He urges believers to recognize the reality of spiritual warfare and to engage with deliverance and deprogramming as essential components of preparing for what he sees as an imminent clash between darkness and God’s kingdom. Throughout, the dialogue blends testimony, controversial claims about secret histories, and a theological framework that positions deliverance and deprogramming as critical responses to a perceived global spiritual drama.

Demons are invading Earth through people, as the Bible foretold. Ancient warnings are coming true. These interdimensional invaders are not human, despite mockery from the media. Everyone instinctively knows the truth.

I believe in the existence of angels and demons, and their influence is becoming more apparent to those who are aware. Demons are becoming bolder in our society, infiltrating various aspects of our lives. On the other hand, we are the angels, sentient beings with a direct connection to God. They try to suppress this knowledge through chemicals, fear, and other means. It's time to wake up and realize our power. By coming together and focusing on goodness, love, and compassion, we can manifest positive change. We must unite, regardless of our differences, to create a world without war and famine. We are here to fight and resist evil. Stay true to yourself and resist.

- “there's no state religion in the West, certainly not in The United States, but in fact, is. It's scientism. It's the worship of science. It's the belief… that everything around us, everything we experience, can be measured by people in white coats.” - “Supernatural experiences are a feature of everyone's life.” Lee Strobel investigates “angels, demons, mystical dreams, near death encounters, and other mysteries of the unseen world.” - “Angels are created by God before humankind was created. They are spirit beings… to serve not only God, but also his people.” There is “anticipation that perhaps there could be angelic encounters,” with cases like John G. Paton and “muscular men in white garments with drawn swords.” - Strobel recounts an personal encounter: “an angel appeared to me.” Demons are “fallen angels,” and Christians can be “oppressed” but not possessed. - Miracles: “published in peer reviewed medical journals.” Barbara was “instantaneously totally healed of multiple sclerosis.” In Mozambique and Brazil, “average improvement in visual acuity was tenfold.” - Near-death experiences: a “life review” with a divine being; “deathbed visions” including “eighty eight percent of those dying people had a pre death vision.” - The soul: “every civilization believed in the spirit, a soul that continues to live on after we die.” The Holy Spirit “indwells you.” - A miracle is “a temporary exception to the ordinary course of nature” to show God has acted in history; one should not ignore the supernatural.