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It's my birthday and I want to talk about the violence in Nigeria where over 140 people were killed by armed Fulani herdsmen targeting Christians. Church pastors were among the victims and many houses were destroyed. Muslim terrorists were responsible for the attack.

I spent three weeks in South Africa with white farmers facing systematic displacement. I met families who've survived horrific, hours-long attacks by black gangs. I lived on farms, witnessing firsthand the terror these farmers endure. A police officer predicted the end within two years. These farmers, many whose families have worked the land for generations, are preparing for a final stand. They lack the resources to leave; they're rooted to the land, even as they face unimaginable violence. One farmer, Bernard, shared his family's harrowing experiences: his father was murdered, his wife tortured, and his children traumatized. They're determined to fight for their homes, even if it means dying defending them.

The discussion centers on whether Afrikaners in South Africa are facing genocide and whether the U.S. is prioritizing them for asylum. The DHS representative states that 8,666 individuals have been granted asylum in the U.S. since January 20, including 59 Afrikaners who faced racial violence and land seizure by their government. She accuses the interviewer of defending race-based discrimination and violence and whitewashing the persecution of Afrikaners. The interviewer disputes the claim of genocide, stating that it is not recognized by the U.S. or the UN and that violence affects all races in South Africa. He questions whether Congolese and Sudanese refugees facing actual genocide will receive the same expedited path to asylum as Afrikaners. He claims the president has specifically let in Afrikaners. The DHS representative insists asylum is granted regardless of color or creed to those facing persecution and undergoing proper vetting.

The Fulani ethnic militia are allegedly trying to turn Nigeria into a Muslim caliphate. They reportedly enter Christian villages on motorcycles with AK-47s, killing everyone and razing the villages. This is not about climate change but a 500-year-old view of cattle farming. Nigeria was 70% Christian but is now 50% Muslim due to this "systematic jihad." Islam conquers civilizations through three methods of jihad: cultural, political, and violent. They move in, blend in, gain population, then engage in political jihad, and finally, violent jihad to take over territory, which is how they allegedly took over Northern Africa. The Fulani tribe exists throughout central, east, and west Africa, and every country they touch allegedly turns into war and genocide.

In this discussion, the central thread is that Christian communities across the Middle East have borne the brunt of foreign and domestic policies, particularly under U.S. and Israeli actions, while Christian voices in the West have often been quiet or polarized by political loyalties. Key points raised by Speaker 0 include: - A long-standing pattern in American foreign policy where Christians suffer disproportionately in wars the U.S. funds or supports, with Iraq’s ancient Christian community devastated (nine out of ten Christians fled or were killed as a result of the occupation). Similar silences surrounded Christian killings in Syria and, more recently, the treatment of Christians in Ukraine, Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel. - In Ukraine, the U.S. government sent more than $100 billion; in Gaza and the broader Middle East, Christian communities have faced severe hardship. A Greek Orthodox church in Gaza was hit by an airstrike in October, with at least 17 dead that day. The broader pattern includes earlier violence such as the destruction around the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem and the lack of vocal Christian clergy in the U.S. who spoke up at the time. - The use of humanitarian aid or policy toward the Middle East is perceived as biased by many Christian communities in the region, who feel their own suffering is being ignored if it does not align with American political aims or with Evangelical support for Israel. Reverend Munther Ishak, pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bethlehem, provides on-the-ground perspective: - The Christian communities in the West Bank, Gaza, and Israel proper are facing unprecedented fragmentation and decline. In Gaza, eight to 100 Palestinian Christians remain in the territory, with any death impacting the community deeply. Members of Ishak’s church have family in Gaza who cannot visit due to restrictions, and Bethlehem’s Christian population is shrinking as relatives move abroad for safety and livelihoods. - Ishak describes American political dynamics as problematic: some U.S. lawmakers—reflecting the religious right or certain partisan positions—express views that directly affect Palestinians, including Christian communities. He cites examples of pastors advocating destruction of Gaza and questions whether such calls align with Christian ethics, noting the harm to Christian witnesses in the region. - He emphasizes that much of the money flowing from churches to the region funds Israeli military actions and settlement-building on land confiscated from Palestinians, including Palestinian Christians. This financial support, he argues, undermines humanitarian efforts and peace initiatives, and damages the Christian presence in the Holy Land. - The reality of life under Israeli occupation is harsh in both Gaza and the West Bank, with land seizures, travel restrictions, and a fragile, often dangerous existence for Palestinian Christians. In East Jerusalem, Christians face repeated, sometimes violent incitement; evangelism is restricted, and some churches feel a systematic effort to “empty Jerusalem of Christians.” - Ishak argues for recognizing the humanity and political rights of Palestinians, including Palestinian Christians, and for a two-state or other peace solution. He criticizes the conflation of biblical chosenness with unconditional political support for Israel, warning that such stance compromises Christian witness and undermines the possibility of peaceful coexistence. - He calls on American Christian leaders to listen to Palestinian Christian voices, to advocate for peace and justice, and to avoid simplistic, polarizing positions. He contends that war does not align with the teachings of Jesus and urges Christians to pursue nonviolent, principled paths to end the occupation and to protect Christian communities in the Holy Land. The overall message is a plea for attentive, principled engagement from American Christian leaders and policymakers: listen to Palestinian Christians, reassess unconditional support for political allies, and pursue peaceful, just solutions that protect all communities and sustain Christian witness in the region.

In Lubero territory, near Toyo and Bandulu villages, bodies were brought to the morgue as a witness helped. They had found 61 remains of men and women, some in a wake after a farmer’s death, with many villagers arriving only to be slaughtered. Three people were wounded; a woman who fled and two others are in the general hospital of Mbaghurikiba. "Last night in the Lubero territory in Toyo and Bandulu village, they are just close to one another, these two villages, About, they said a 100, but they had found 61 remains." The speaker notes ISIS claim that it was them doing this "in the open like this, and nothing is happening." This violence has been taking place for years; every day someone is slaughtered because of their faith or because just they are in their field looking for food. This cannot continue. We have to do something.

I'm here with Dexter Van Zyl, an expert on anti-Christian violence, to discuss the absolutely barbaric atrocity that took place in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where 70 Christians were beheaded in a church. This is happening in a country of 105 million people that is in conflict with Rwanda over territory in Kivu. The violence was perpetrated by an organization affiliated with ISIS. Some people argue that this organization is working on behalf of Rwanda because Rwanda covets and is taking control of the Congo's mineral resources. Why is no one reporting this? Why does no one seem to care?

The discussion centers on what the speakers describe as a systematic massacre of Christians in Syria, along with violence against other minority communities. They claim churches and monasteries have been targeted, with Christian villages and others like Alawite villages set on fire and attacked, and note fires seen from miles away. They argue the Syrian government is not stopping the violence and is instead embracing the new leadership described as an ISIS terrorist, citing a photo of the leader at the United Nations with a “clean kept beard and hair gel.” They assert Christians are protest­ing in the streets, saying they are “soldiers of Christ,” while saying Christians are “sitting targets” without help. Professor Joshua Landis, of Syria Comment and the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, explains the shift in Syria’s power dynamics. He recounts that in 2011, the Nusra Front emerged as a Syrian branch of Al Qaeda, formed with US support to the opposition against Assad. He notes that in December, nine months prior, the head of Al Qaeda reportedly swept into Damascus, took over, and “became president,” with the United States lifting sanctions and embracing him to sign a peace agreement with Israel. Landis emphasizes the minorities in Syria—Alawites (about 12%), Druze (3%), Kurds in the north—are terrified as a “Sunni supremacist” and fundamentalist regime takes power and treats minorities with disdain. He cites massacres against minorities: 17,000 Alawites killed in March, nearly 2,000 Druze killed in July, and ongoing violence. He also highlights Christian persecution, mentioning the Mar Elias church bombing in June that killed 30 parishioners and wounded over 50; the church was burned, and he notes conflicting claims about the bomber’s affiliations. He adds that Washington has lifted sanctions and encouraged the new president, while not compelling moves toward democracy or decentralization to protect minorities. The hosts question why Western media and governments remain largely silent, noting a lack of coverage by Trump or major outlets, and remark that the situation parallels civil wars in Iraq and Lebanon where minorities suffered as states collapsed. Landis argues that after the overthrow of regimes like Saddam Hussein’s, Christians in Iraq were reduced from about 3% to nearly none, due to civil strife and the rise of extremist movements, with Christians often facing persecution and forced jizya. The conversation turns to broader regional stakes, including concern that Kurdish allies, who helped defeat ISIS, may be abandoned as US troops draw down, leaving Kurdish populations vulnerable. The host urges viewers to share the segment with government representatives to demand attention to the plight of Christians in the Middle East. The discussion closes with Landis reaffirming the gravity of the situation and the absence of strong Western political will to intervene.

Mainstream and alternative media often highlight hate crimes against various groups, yet Christianity faces significant mockery and persecution without repercussions. Reports indicate that Christianity is the most persecuted religion globally, with 365 million Christians experiencing high levels of discrimination in 2023. A new report from OIDAC Europe reveals 2,444 anti-Christian hate crimes in 35 European countries, including vandalism and physical violence, with France, the UK, and Germany being the most affected. Christians increasingly feel the need to self-censor, with only 40% feeling free to express their faith openly. Experts call for better protection and documentation of these hate crimes, emphasizing the systemic intolerance against Christianity. The solution lies in upholding free speech for all, rather than imposing more restrictions.

Speaker 0: Congressman, pleasure to speak to you. There's a topic you've been very vocal about that I think more people around the world should pay attention to. There's obviously a war in Gaza. There's the war in Ukraine. A lot of heartbreak going on around the world. But what's happening in Nigeria, it's been happening for a long time, is beyond imagination. The only comparison I can make that to to what's happening there is what's happening in in Congo, which I've covered extensively. You know, I interviewed president Kagame in Rwanda talking about the genocide there and then the the decades of war in Congo. But, yeah, the world seems to be turning a blind eye to what's happening in Nigeria. Can you just elaborate more on what you've seen and what what brought your attention to the issue? Speaker 1: Well, Mario, that's a good way to put it, turning a blind eye to it. This has been going on for actually quite a while in Nigeria, and it's the persecution and the ethnic cleansing of Christians in the country of Nigeria by Islamic extremists. And there's really about three different groups here that are to blame. One would be Boko Haram. We all are generally kind of familiar with Boko Haram. You have IS. West Africa, more ISIS aligned. And then you have this tribal people, most of them involved in cattle herdsmen called the Fulani. And they have, as of recent, been doing a lot of the killing, and there's been a lot of more focus on that, at least on my end and some folks here in congress. But all three are to blame for this, and to me, the government of Nigeria is to blame for this as well. But if if I could just highlight just some of the numbers here real quick. Since 2009, the estimates are in between fifty thousand and as much as a 100,000, it's been reported, have been murdered Christians in Nigeria. I mean, is an astounding number that nobody is talking about. Speaker 0: Genocidal numbers. Speaker 1: Genocidal numbers. And in that same time period, we've had over 19,000 churches attacked or destroyed. And nobody seems to really care about this, but this is something as a Christian myself, as a Catholic, this is something I care deeply about. My brothers and sisters in Christ are suffering and being martyred in this country of Nigeria, and I'm trying to raise the alarm here in The United States and say we have to do something. And just this year alone, 7,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria. That's thirty five a day are being killed, and we had fifty four of them were murdered on Palm Sunday. We had a priest kidnapped and murdered on Ash Wednesday, and nobody seems to care or talk about this at all, which is why you know, thank you for giving me this platform to be able to talk about this. But this is so alarming, so concerning, And I think there's a real question of what type of ownership does the government of Nigeria have culpability in this. And I you know, to me, there has to be some type of collusion of some sort, particularly as it relates to the Fulani, who are not a terrorist organization, but are Muslim ethnic group that lives in kind of that middle band of the country where we see a lot of these clashes happening. The government has been trying to stop Boko Haram, but part of that is also the security assistance programs that The United States has with Nigeria in the effort and the promise that they would try to prosecute conflict against Boko Haram and and their presence in that country. Now they still exist. Just last month, there was an attack on a village by Boko Haram that killed nearly a 100 people. Thousands fled. The air force of Nigeria did some airstrikes that killed about 30 members of Boko Haram, but this is not nearly enough. And now just a couple weeks ago, there was an attack on Christians. 15 were murdered. They flagged this. This is in the Borno state. Flagged this for the government, and the government reported it, and I'm not joking, as fake news. This is not a real threat, and then 15 more Christians lost their lives. So certainly, the government of Nigeria is not doing enough. I think they're complicit in this in their absence in that area in protecting these Christians. Speaker 0: Let's talk about who Boko Haram is, especially people that weren't, you know, following politics back during the war on terror. They've been around for a while. I think it was in 2014, they had they controlled a lot of land in Nigeria, and I think neighboring countries as well, if I remember correctly, and everyone was talking about Boko Haram, and then their leader got killed with clashes with Nigerian military. But they've committed a lot of atrocities over the years. They've lost most of their territories. From what I understand now, there is also under Barack Obama's presidency, and there's been a lot of that's when that's when their peak was. I was going through now some of the notes I've got. But now they're living in, like, islands, Lake Chad Islands and Sambisa, Forest Haida. So first, why are they killing Christians? What is their end goal? And two is how are they still around after all these years? Speaker 1: Well, I mean and that's a good question. Look. We see this same type of persecution and killing of Christians in many Muslim majority or Muslim ruled countries. This is something that seems to be persistent throughout the Muslim world. Now Boko Haram, in particular, they're more Al Qaeda affiliated, so they do have political goals in terms of taking over at least part, if not in whole, the country of Nigeria and cleansing the Christians of that country. You might recall, and this was back about a decade ago now, where there was 276 schoolgirls kidnapped. Speaker 0: I remember the story. Speaker 1: The Obama administration actually saying something about this. Just to be clear, 82 of those girls are still remain missing. And, you know, we're talking a lot right now about the murders and the martyrs of the martyrdom of the Christians that are in that country, but there is systemic rape and kidnapping and enslavement of the Christian population as well. So it's it's not just singular and just the killing of them. I mean, they are being tortured and kidnapped and disappeared on a daily basis as well. So that's also part of this that is happening. And Speaker 0: Have you looked into why, congressman? What is why is it that hate towards Christianity in Nigeria? And you mentioned some other countries as well. I know this is mainly the extremist Islamic factions that are that have that ideology, kind of similar to what we saw with ISIS a few years ago to this day, really. But why do they have that hate to go there and kill fellow humans just because they have another religion? Speaker 1: Well, I I think I'll as I mentioned, Boko Haram is more closely aligned with Al Qaeda. IS West Africa is more ISIS affiliated. And then you have this tribal people, most of them involved in cattle herdsmen called the Fulani. And then you have this tribal people, most of them involved in cattle herdsmen called the Fulani. And they have, as of recent, been doing a lot of the killing, and there's been a lot of more focus on that, at least on my end and some folks here in congress. But all three are to blame for this, and to me, the government of Nigeria is to blame for this as well. But if if I could just highlight just some of the numbers here real quick. Since 2009, the estimates are in between fifty thousand and as much as a 100,000, it's been reported, have been murdered Christians in Nigeria. I mean, is an astounding number that nobody is talking about. 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Speaker 0 recalls, "I saw horror" in captivity and "I still have nightmares, bad nightmares." "Can't horror. That's I can't why I left Nigeria. That's why I'm here." They state that "we've been in captivity and been raped multiple times by terrorists" and that most people "would not know the pain." "Nobody stood. Nobody believed me. Nobody said anything. Nobody helped me." Speaker 1 adds, "No one. No one." and warns that "that's what's happening right now to our children. They're getting killed." They describe ongoing suffering: "Somebody's bleeding. Nobody's saying anything. Nobody's accepting any refugee from Northern Nigeria. Nobody." "I was raped." and "I still have munch on my arm." The speaker concludes, "I know what's going on. I know the pain."

Mister Forsyth claims that the situation in Biafra is a large-scale genocide and massacre. He provides evidence based on his own eyewitness experiences, including seeing 300 members of a church slaughtered by the Federal 2nd division. He also mentions a photograph taken after a village was wiped out, showing bodies in the market square. Eyewitness sources and interrogations of federal prisoners further support the claim. The federal army's actions contradict what the Lagos government claims about rehabilitating the Ibo people. Additionally, the bombing raids primarily target civilian centers, such as schools, hospitals, and markets, rather than strategic targets.

A genocide is taking place in South Africa that people don't want to write about. Farmers, who happen to be white, are being brutally killed and their land is being confiscated. The media doesn't talk about it, but if it were the other way around, it would be the only story. South Africa's leadership is coming to see me sometime next week. We're supposed to have a G20 meeting there, but I don't know how we can go unless that situation's taken care of. People who live in South Africa say it's a terrible situation. Citizenship has essentially been extended to those people to escape from that violence and come here.