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I first stumbled across agenda 21 in about 2008, and my first reaction was to dismiss what I was reading because I didn't believe that any government in Australia would take us down this road. Then I began to see a legislative pattern emerging in parliament which concerned me greatly, and I also started to see the tenor of legislation that we were passing. I did air those concerns in parliament, and it was dismissed and ignored. The words agenda 21, ladies and gentlemen, were never meant to be spoken. And if they were, then, of course, it would be dismissed as a conspiracy theory. Because if people knew agenda 21 and what it stood for, there's plenty of information out there where they could actually learn what the end game was, and governments didn't want that to be known. My dad always said to me that people only lie for two reasons. One reason is because you're ashamed of what you're doing, and the second reason is that you don't want people to be warned just before you screw them. And I honestly believe that these secrets have been kept for both of those reasons. Ladies and gentlemen, the origins of the environmental movement as we see it began back in 1968 when the Club of Rome was formed. The Club of Rome has been described as a crisis think tank which specializes in crisis creation. The main purpose of this think tank was to formulate a crisis that would unite the world and condition us to the idea of global solutions to local problems. In a document called the first global revolution authored by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider on pages 104 and 105, it stated, in searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine, and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers, of course, will be caused by human intervention that will require a global response. That's the origin of global warming, ladies and gentlemen. In 1975, Australia agreed to bring in a new economic order via the Lima Declaration on the second conference of the United Nations Industrial Development Organization. The outcome of this was, as I said, the Lima declaration which was a blueprint for the redeployment of tools, jobs, and manufacturing to the developing nations, leaving countries like Australia short of technology, a manufacturing base, and jobs. Blind Freddy can now see what the outcome of that has been for our country with their unworkable trade and tariffs agreements hand in hand with this that have followed as a matter of course. This has now become a reality with around 90% of our agriculture and manufacturing just gone. Australia signed the Lima declaration in 1975 and hundreds of others with the support of all major political players, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating, Houston, Howard, Rudd, the democrats, the greens, and even the Nationals. It has been put to me that all of these treaties were the foundation for the rollout of agenda 21. And it seems that Australia has been moved around the global chessboard, and our so called leaders were either complicit or naive to the long term consequences. And now we're almost at checkmate. Sorry. In 1992, former president of The United States George Bush senior said, effective execution of agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of human society unlike anything the world has ever experienced. A major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action will be integrated into individual and collective decision making at every level. Cutting through the code, I want everyone here tonight not familiar with agenda 21 to consider what the words profound reorientation of all human society and unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources actually means. For everyone here tonight not familiar with agenda 21, I would suggest that this is the beginning of your learning curve, not the end. In 1992, Morris Strong, secretary general of the UN Earth Summit and member of the Club of Rome said, it is clear the current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, ownership of motor vehicles, small electrical appliances, home and workplace air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable. Put those statements together with the previous one, and it must become clear that agenda 21 is about controlling every aspect of our lives, how we eat, what we eat, how much we eat, how we move around, food production, the amount of food, and where we even live. Dixie Ray, former Washington state governor and assistant secretary for oceans and international environmental and scientific affairs stated, agenda 21 seeks to establish a mechanism for transferring the wealth from citizens to the third world. Fear of environmental crisis would be used to create a world government and UN central direction. From a report in the September Habitat One Conference, land cannot be treated as an ordinary asset controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument

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The speaker believes that the biggest challenge in conservation is the increasing human population. They express concern about the lack of resources and suggest that action needs to be taken to address this issue.

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There is concern over the increase in wildfires and the lack of people in rural areas. The speaker questions why there are fires and blames the abandonment of these areas. They criticize the new management approach, which restricts activities like tree cutting and planting. The speaker argues that in the past, when people lived in these areas and took care of the forests, there were no problems. Now, with the cost of firefighting and the reliance on taxes to pay for it, the speaker questions the effectiveness of the current approach. They also mention the excessive bureaucracy and restrictions in the country, which they believe contribute to the current issues of drought and wildfires.

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Speaker 0 outlines a narrative linking the origins of the environmental movement to the Club of Rome, described as a crisis think tank that purportedly specializes in crisis creation. The speaker cites a document, The First Global Revolution by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider, claiming it states that pollution, global warming, water shortages, famine and similar dangers would fit the bill as a new enemy to unite the world and justify a global response to local problems, thereby claiming “the origin of global warming.” The speaker then connects this to Australia, asserting that in 1975 Australia accepted a new economic order via the Lima Declaration at the UNIDO conference. The Lima Declaration, they say, was a blueprint for redeploying tools, jobs and manufacturing to developing nations, leaving Australia short of technology, a manufacturing base and jobs, and that unworkable trade and tariffs agreements followed. They claim these treaties were the foundation for the rollout of Agenda 21 and contend Australia has been moved on a global chessboard with leaders either complicit or naive to long-term consequences. The segment cites 1992 remarks by former U.S. president George Bush Sr. about Agenda 21, describing it as requiring a profound reorientation of human society and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources, integrating concern for environmental consequences into decision making at every level. The speaker urges the audience to consider the implications of “profound reorientation of all human society” and “unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources.” The speaker references Morris Strong, then secretary-general of the UN Earth Summit, stating that affluent middle-class lifestyles are not sustainable, including high meat intake, frozen foods, fossil fuels, vehicle ownership, and other consumption patterns. The implication drawn is that Agenda 21 is about controlling every aspect of life—what and how we eat, how we move, food production, quantity of food, and where we live. Dixie Ray, former Washington state governor and assistant secretary for oceans and international environmental and scientific affairs, is quoted as saying Agenda 21 seeks to transfer wealth from citizens to the third world. A fear-based trajectory is described where fear of environmental crisis would be used to create a world government with UN central direction. The speaker quotes a Habitat One report suggesting land cannot be treated as an ordinary asset and that private land ownership contributes to social injustice, implying a redistribution of wealth through land and resource control. A report from the president’s council on sustainable development is cited as advocating a new collaborative decision process for better decisions and more rapid change in resource use. Harvey Ruben of the Wildlands Project and Jay Gary Lawrence are invoked to suggest that individual rights would be subordinated to the collective, and that participating in UN-planned processes would provoke conspiracy-minded groups to resist, leading to alternative labels like comprehensive planning or sustainable development. The narrative claims that costs are rising for citizens while services are cut, portraying this as wealth redistribution and redeployment of resources that harms the working poor. It references debates over land rights and water allocation, the native vegetation act, and development and planning acts as threats to food producers and long-term security, with alluding to heritage status used to justify control over land titles. The speaker argues for legislative Council checks and balances as a safeguard against parties colluding to pass restrictive policies, urging public participation to restrain erosion of common law, and portraying agenda 21 as an ongoing threat since 2008. The account then traces the Club of Rome’s 1972 Limits to Growth and its environmental alarmism, linking Ted Turner and Mao to early endorsements of the movement, and cites 1987 and 1996 statements about a new world order and an environmental crisis unlocking a one-world government. It asserts the Earth Summit produced the Earth Charter, co-written by Morris Strong and Mikhail Gorbachev, as a new set of commandments with environmentalism as a new world religion, and connects this to Agenda 21. Ted Turner’s 1996 reductionist population statements are included, along with a 1998 Baltimore Sun report on Turner’s donations to the UN aimed at stalling population growth and supporting sterilization to “save mother earth.”

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So I think one area of mutual agreement and priority is vegetation management. But I think we wanna work with you to really recognize the changing climate and what it means to our forest and actually work together with that science. That science is gonna be key. Because if we if we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. K. It'll start getting cooler. I wish You you just watch. I wish science agreed with you. Hey. Well, I don't think science knows, actually.

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There is a significant water issue despite no drought, as water is being diverted to protect a small fish species. This water, which flows naturally from Canada, could be used to benefit the land and forests, which are currently dry and at risk. The lack of water contributes to the high costs of forest fires, amounting to billions annually. Additionally, environmental regulations prevent proper forest management, such as raking and clearing debris. Simple maintenance could reduce fire hazards and improve forest health.

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Agenda 21 is a real plan to remove humans from rural and suburban areas. It has been implemented in the US and supported by every president. It is a global plan implemented locally in every city and town. It aims to control all aspects of life, including land, water, plants, animals, and human beings. The plan is called communitarianism, which balances individual rights with the rights of the community. The individual always loses in this philosophy. Agenda 21 is a stealth plan happening in plain sight. It includes smart growth and wildlands, which restrict mobility and shift land ownership from private to public. This is a takeover of our nation and an administrative coup d'etat. It is sold as an economic driver but is designed to fail.

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Speaker 0 contends the US Forest Service Agency is added again, targeting "half a million acres" of Cimarron And Comanche National Grassland and, importantly, "coming after your private property land." The process began in 2023 under Biden administration guidelines; "we have new guidelines now," and "the secretary of ag ... has the power to stop it." "'Drivers and stressors is code for why they need your land." "Herbivory, which is code for cattle grazing." They claim "Land ownership is a stressor on what the US Forest Service Agency wants to accomplish here with this new assessment so they can take this land from the public and so they can take private land." They state "Land ownership patterns in the Cimarron And Comanche National Grasslands are highly fragmented" ... "This fragmentation poses challenges to us taking over the land is what they wanna say, but they can't." "The private landowner is in their way." "They take land from ranchers, and once they perfect the process, they go after anyone that's in their way." "You're in their way." "Please share this. This must stop. We gotta get the word out. We gotta stop this crazy crap."

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A situation is unfolding in Colorado where urban residents are allegedly controlling the state, potentially ending farming, ranching, and private land ownership. A proposed committee, excluding farmers and ranchers, would decide the fate of public and private lands under the guise of conservation. This committee could designate any species as endangered, imposing restrictions on land use if that species is present. This could lead to hundreds of restrictions, dictating activities like tree cutting or cattle movement. The speaker characterizes this as an activist environmental proposal to seize control of the entire state, enabling them to dictate land use, both public and private, in the name of conservation.

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The Wildlands Project proposes converting at least 50% of North America into wilderness areas, interconnected by corridors and surrounded by buffer zones with limited resource use. This plan aligns with Agenda 21, adopted by over 100 heads of state, detailing societal transformations for sustainability. The UN's Commission on Global Governance aims to create a world standing army and consolidate global financial institutions. The biodiversity treaty emphasizes protected areas, including core wilderness and biosphere reserves, which are voluntary agreements with the UN. The goal is to significantly reduce the human population and regulate activities within these areas, impacting every individual globally. Many national parks are now designated as UNESCO World Heritage Sites, often without public awareness.

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Thirty years ago, ranchers were removed from their land here to protect the endangered desert tortoise. My family lost our grazing permit, which we paid almost $50,000 for, because of this. But now, that same land is being bulldozed for a huge housing development, which has me and other residents wondering if this land was ever really protected. Town officials say the private developer who bought the land has the legal right to build and that the town needs the tax revenue for infrastructure. But to me and others, it feels like the land was just reserved until someone came along with the right price. With recent zoning changes, we fear it’s too late to save the land and the tortoises.

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Last night, I evacuated my home in LA due to wildfires, prompting me to reflect on a conversation between Joe Rogan and Donald Trump about wildfire management in California. Trump highlighted two issues: water management and forest maintenance. In 2023, California's policies led to the diversion of 195.5 billion gallons of water into the ocean to protect the Delta smelt, while forests remain overgrown with dead trees. A study found 91.4 million dead trees across California, which environmental policies have prevented from being cleared, contributing to devastating fires. Misguided environmental protections often harm both human lives and the very species they aim to protect. California's government struggles with ineffective policies, leading to increased homelessness and inadequate crisis response. While grateful for government support, it's clear improvements are necessary.

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The UN's 30 by 30 agenda aims to seize 30% of all land and water on Earth, disregarding private property rights. The European Union is implementing it, and California and Joe Biden are using similar language, mentioning conserving 30% of lands and waters by 2030. The speaker claims this isn't about conservation but about taking, facilitated in the US by the sustains act, which allows the government to receive private funds for conservation programs. This act assigns value to environmental services provided by privately owned land, such as pollination, photosynthesis, and clean air/water, monetizing them through partnerships between private investors and the government, without landowner consent. The speaker asserts this is a seizing of American assets aligned with the UN's goals, without public consent or input. Representatives, according to the World Economic Forum, are now solely responsible, without needing to consult the public.

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Illegal immigration is a federal crime, not a human right. President Biden is using national parks for the benefit of the 3 million illegal immigrants he released into the country. This bill aims to stop this misuse of public lands. However, the impact goes beyond that. It affects social services, schools, hospitals, homeless shelters, neighborhood safety, national security, and the rule of law. The American people must decide if they want this to continue or if they want a president who will prioritize recovering our nation's lands and sovereignty.

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I don't want houses on my land. Conservation easements are needed to prevent rural areas from being covered in houses. A 180-acre grass farm nearby was turned into 18 houses, which is concerning. People buy land, mow it, and fertilize it for aesthetics, not for growing food. It's wasteful and unsustainable.

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Vegetation management is a mutual priority. Working together, recognizing the changing climate and its impact on forests, is important. Science will be key to this effort. Ignoring the science and believing vegetation management is the only solution will not protect Californians. It will start getting cooler. Science doesn't know.

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Joe Rogan Experience #709 - Steven Rinella
Guests: Steven Rinella
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Joe Rogan praises Steven Rinella's book, "The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game," and they discuss the extensive effort that went into its creation. Rinella shares that the book evolved from a simple idea into a comprehensive guide, leading to its division into two volumes: one for big game and another for small game. He reflects on the collaborative process and the challenges faced during writing and publishing. Rinella describes his experiences hunting and filming, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in his show, "MeatEater." He notes that episodes where no animals are killed can still resonate deeply with viewers, as they often explore personal relationships and the beauty of nature. He expresses pride in the show's ability to challenge stereotypes about hunting and engage audiences on a deeper level. The conversation shifts to the complexities of hunting and wildlife management, particularly regarding the portrayal of hunters in media. They discuss the backlash against trophy hunting, the ethics surrounding it, and the public's perception of hunting as a whole. Rinella argues that hunting can play a crucial role in conservation, citing examples of how hunters contribute to wildlife management and habitat preservation. Rinella shares insights from his travels, including a trip to Bolivia where he interacted with the Tsimane people, who hunt and fish using traditional methods. He describes their unique relationship with the land and wildlife, highlighting the stark differences in perspective between indigenous practices and Western views on hunting. The discussion touches on the challenges of invasive species in Florida and the broader implications of human impact on ecosystems. Rinella expresses concern over the future of wildlife management and the need for a balanced approach that considers both conservation and the interests of local communities. He encourages listeners to engage with conservation efforts and advocate for responsible wildlife management practices. The episode concludes with Rinella discussing the importance of supporting outdoor programming and the challenges faced by networks like the Sportsman Channel. He urges listeners to voice their support for hunting and conservation through initiatives like keepmyoutdoorTV.com.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2350 - Ryan Callaghan
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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan and guest Ryan Callaghan discuss the importance of public lands in the United States and the recent efforts to prevent their sale. They celebrate a victory in halting a public land sale proposal but acknowledge that the fight is far from over. Callaghan emphasizes the uniqueness of America's public lands, which provide recreational opportunities and essential resources, contrasting them with the situation in other countries where such lands are often privatized. They highlight the alarming loss of grasslands in the U.S., with approximately 2 million acres disappearing annually, which is the most threatened ecosystem globally. Callaghan explains how development and encroachment of tree species threaten these ecosystems, which are vital for biodiversity and water conservation. He stresses that many Americans are unaware of the significance of these lands, often due to urban lifestyles that disconnect them from nature. The conversation shifts to the political landscape, focusing on the Utah lawsuit aiming to sell off 18.5 million acres of Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land. Callaghan criticizes politicians like Mike Lee, who advocate for land sales, arguing that such actions would set a dangerous precedent. He expresses concern that selling even a small amount of public land could lead to further erosion of public resources. Rogan and Callaghan discuss the broader implications of public land sales, including the potential impact on hunting and conservation efforts. They note that public lands are crucial for maintaining ecosystems and supporting wildlife, and they lament the lack of awareness among the general public regarding where their food comes from and the role of these lands in food production. The episode also touches on the need for bipartisan support for public land protection, with both hosts urging listeners to engage with their representatives and advocate for conservation. They emphasize the importance of unity among various interest groups, including hunters, conservationists, and businesses, to protect public lands. Callaghan shares personal experiences in nature, highlighting the mental and physical benefits of spending time outdoors. He recounts a trip to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, describing the beauty and tranquility of the landscape, which contrasts sharply with the political battles over land use. The discussion concludes with a call to action for listeners to remain vigilant and proactive in defending public lands, stressing that the fight for conservation is ongoing and requires collective effort. They encourage people to join organizations that advocate for public land protection and to stay informed about legislative developments that could affect these vital resources.

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Steven Rinella - Founder of MeatEater | SRS #237
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From the jungle to the interview chair, Rinella threads a story of hunting as a lived practice rather than a cinematic hobby. He recalls real-life South American encounters with Mashi and Makushi hunters in Bolivia and Guyana, where a shotgun and improvised ammo built through leaf wrappers and candle wax can become a night’s tool. Under a fig tree they spot a red howler monkey and its infant; the shot lands, the meat is cured by smoking, boiling, and roasting, and the crew films some of it. The monkey meat proves tough, but the daily rhythm of these communities—hunting and fishing 250 days a year—illustrates that for them, survival, culture, and skill fuse into a way of life. He shifts to dog meat in Vietnam, recounting a Northern Tat holiday story that sparked fierce backlash after Outside Magazine published a feature on thit cho. He describes the moral churn—hot spices and guilt mingle as he tastes fare that is both part of a ritual economy and a source of controversy. The reaction was intense, including vitriolic emails, though Rinella says he was surprised by how little pushback compared with other issues. He argues that learning from indigenous hunters goes beyond taboos, and he highlights field skills he witnessed, such as how local trackers solve problems that non-natives cannot see. Rinella widens the lens to Africa, describing Tanzania’s wildlife management through large hunting concessions that generate revenue for the government and fund habitat preservation. A 2-million-acre game area hosts hunts with set quotas, and trophy fees flow back to Tanzania. He contrasts this with debates over public lands in the United States, where many Americans value open access and habitat protection. He notes that private and public approaches coexist, including Burning Man on BLM land and the public’s love of accessible spaces, while acknowledging the complexity of enforcement, poverty, and development pressures. He traces American hunting from Daniel Boone’s frontier era to Roosevelt’s conservation push, describing market hunting and the later curb through the Lacey Act and the Boon and Crockett Club. He explains how the wild meat economy shaped cities, beaver and buffalo trades, and the shift toward public ownership and regulation. He also reflects on balancing work with family life, emphasizing that when at home, he cooks and eats wild meat with his family, while mentoring his children in hunting and outdoor skills.

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Joe Rogan Experience #1112 - Cameron Hanes
Guests: Cameron Hanes
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The podcast begins with a discussion about a recent trip to Hawaii, where a 6.9 earthquake occurred while the guests were flying over the Big Island. They reflect on the beauty of the islands and the challenges of hunting there, particularly on Lanai, where there are significantly more deer than people. The guests discuss the history of axis deer on the island, noting that they were introduced in 1860 and have no natural predators, leading to overpopulation issues. They mention that around 30 deer are culled daily to manage the population and provide food for locals. The hunting experience is described as challenging, with the deer being highly alert and difficult to approach. The guests recount their successful hunt, emphasizing the thrill and difficulty of stalking deer. They highlight the importance of hunting for population control and the ecological balance, mentioning the eradication of goats on the island due to their destructive impact on vegetation. The conversation shifts to the camaraderie and experiences shared among the hunting group, including notable figures in the hunting community. They discuss the deliciousness of axis deer meat and the joy of cooking and sharing it with friends. The guests express gratitude for the hunting experience and the connections made with both animals and fellow hunters. The discussion also touches on broader themes of wildlife conservation and the complexities of hunting regulations. They mention the International Wildlife Conservation Council and the impact of hunting on conservation efforts in Africa, particularly regarding elephants and lions. The guests argue that regulated hunting can help fund conservation and anti-poaching efforts, contrasting it with the negative consequences of banning hunting without addressing underlying issues. The podcast delves into the challenges of balancing conservation with human needs, particularly in regions where wildlife competes with agriculture. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding hunting and the importance of understanding the realities of wildlife management. The guests emphasize the need for education and awareness about the complexities of wildlife conservation and the role of hunters in maintaining ecological balance. As the conversation progresses, they touch on personal experiences with anxiety and the mental benefits of physical challenges, such as running ultra-marathons. The guests reflect on their motivations for pushing their physical limits and the sense of accomplishment that comes from achieving difficult goals. They discuss the importance of maintaining physical fitness for hunting and the mental clarity that comes from rigorous training. The podcast concludes with a discussion about the evolving landscape of hunting, the pressures of social media, and the importance of authenticity in sharing experiences. The guests express their commitment to promoting responsible hunting practices and the value of connecting with nature. They highlight the significance of personal growth through challenges and the joy of sharing those experiences with others.

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Steven Rinella | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #610
Guests: Steven Rinella
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Steven Rinella and Theo Von begin with a wild, intelligent thread: the turkey as a living doorway into culture, science, and hunting lore. They describe the bird’s anatomy in vivid detail: a head that shifts from red to blue during breeding, a fleshy snood, a beard of modified feathers, and spurs on the legs that can be inch-long weapons. They explain why turkey lore matters in American history, debating Ben Franklin’s proposal that the turkey should be the national symbol rather than the bald eagle. They also reference Rinella’s Meat Eater, his Netflix show, and a long history of turkey hunting. From there, the dialogue dives into the field: why the turkey’s courtship is a theater of sound and color. A gobbler’s head flips color as it’s excited, red to white to blue, signaling breeding drive and competition. They explain the snood, the beard, and the spurs as diagnostic features, and they describe how a turkey drums with its wings on the ground while the bird vocalizes. They riff on how a hunter uses hen calls to lure a strutting tom, and how urban misperceptions of turkeys miss the bird’s intelligence and tenacity, with Rinella defending the species as a dynamic, tough creature. Beyond the bird itself, the talk shifts to wildlife management and the role of hunting in conservation. Rinella highlights how state fish and game agencies rely on hunting and fishing licenses to fund habitat work, enforcement, and restoration projects, and he cites the National Wild Turkey Federation as a crucial force in reviving wild populations. They discuss the broader politics of wildlife, including debates over barred and spotted owls in the Pacific Northwest and a 2025 decision to pull funding for barred owl removal. The conversation frames hunting as a driver of on-the-ground conservation. Interwoven with natural history are long conversations about human evolution, genetics, and prehistory. Rinella and Von wander through Neanderthal ancestry, debating how humans and Neanderthals intermingled, and they joke about a hypothetical Neanderthal guest for the show. They reference 23andMe and the growing public interest in genetic heritage, including the idea of unusually high Neanderthal percentages. The talk then moves to travel and wildlife, from Rinella’s safari in Africa to Alaska’s vast landscapes, and to his Meat Eater American history series about mountain men, the beaver trade, and the decline of the buffalo herd.

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Joe Rogan Experience #1927 - Forrest Galante
Guests: Forrest Galante
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Joe Rogan and Forrest Galante discuss Galante's book "Still Alive" and his experiences with wildlife. They delve into Galante's television show, "Mysterious Creatures," where he investigates cryptids like the Ozark howler and the red wolf. Galante explains that the howler's sightings coincided with the decline of red wolves, suggesting that the howler may be a misidentified wolf howling for communication. They also discuss the Thylacine, or Tasmanian tiger, and the possibility of its existence in Papua New Guinea, where it could thrive without competition from dingoes. Galante shares his experiences searching for the Thylacine, including credible sightings from biologists. He emphasizes the challenges of surveying remote areas and the need for local knowledge and support. Rogan and Galante compare the elusive nature of the Thylacine to mountain lions, which are often unseen despite their populations. The conversation shifts to cryptids, including the Orang Pendek, and the fascination with humanoid creatures. They discuss the existence of various human-like species in history, such as Homo floresiensis, and how cultural perceptions shape beliefs about cryptids. Rogan mentions the potential for ancient memories of creatures like Bigfoot to persist in folklore. They explore the idea of de-extinction, particularly the woolly mammoth, and the implications of reintroducing such species to combat climate change. Galante explains the science behind using CRISPR technology to create mammoths from Indian elephant DNA and the potential ecological benefits of restoring megafauna to the Arctic tundra. The discussion also touches on the impact of human activity on wildlife, including the overpopulation of black bears in areas like New Jersey and the consequences of monoculture agriculture in places like Borneo. Galante shares his experiences with a mother black bear and her cub that have been raiding his chickens, highlighting the challenges of human-wildlife interactions. They conclude by discussing the importance of connecting with nature and the need for radical conservation efforts to address the ongoing decline of wildlife populations. Galante emphasizes that while there are successful conservation stories, the overall trend is concerning, and innovative approaches are necessary to ensure the survival of various species.

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Braxton McCoy - Why is the US Government Selling Millions of Acres of Public Land? | SRS #213
Guests: Braxton McCoy
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In a recent discussion, Shawn Ryan and Braxton McCoy addressed the alarming proposal by certain U.S. politicians to sell between two and three million acres of public land, which is owned by American citizens. This land, originally set aside by Theodore Roosevelt for public enjoyment, was targeted for development into affordable housing. However, due to public outcry and advocacy from various figures, including McCoy, the proposal was removed from a significant bill. Ryan emphasized that this issue has been ongoing for nearly a decade and expressed skepticism that it won't resurface. Ryan criticized the current political landscape, likening Washington, D.C. to an elite brothel where politicians prioritize personal gain over public service. He called for the establishment of a third political party, highlighting the need for accountability and representation of the people's interests. McCoy shared his personal connection to public lands, recounting his upbringing in southern Utah and his military service, which included surviving a suicide bombing in Iraq. He passionately argued against the sale of public lands, asserting that it would harm both the environment and the American public's access to these spaces. The conversation also touched on the historical context of public land ownership in the U.S., tracing it back to wars, treaties, and purchases. McCoy explained that the current push to sell public land is often framed under the guise of addressing housing crises, but he argued that the motivations are more complex and potentially financially driven, benefiting developers and corporations rather than the average citizen. Both Ryan and McCoy expressed concern over the long-term implications of selling public land, including potential environmental degradation and loss of recreational spaces. They highlighted the importance of public lands for hunting, fishing, and recreation, emphasizing that these areas are vital for American heritage and identity. The discussion concluded with a call for vigilance and continued advocacy to protect public lands from privatization and exploitation.

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Joe Rogan Experience #914 - Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth
Guests: Ryan Callaghan, Kenton Carruth
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Ryan Callaghan and Kenton Carruth discuss the unique properties of merino wool used in hunting clothing by First Light, emphasizing its moisture-wicking and heat-retaining capabilities. They explain how merino wool outperforms cotton and synthetic materials in cold, wet conditions, making it ideal for outdoor activities. The conversation shifts to the importance of public lands in the U.S., highlighting recent legislative issues like HR 621 and HR 622, which threaten public land ownership and management. They stress the significance of public lands for all outdoor enthusiasts, not just hunters, and the unique opportunity they provide for recreation and conservation. The guests reflect on their experiences in the wilderness, the thrill of hunting, and the connection to nature that comes with it. They emphasize the role of hunters in wildlife conservation through funding and management, noting that hunting licenses contribute significantly to wildlife protection efforts. The discussion touches on the complexities of wildlife management, including the impact of domestic animals on wild populations, particularly regarding diseases like brucellosis in bison and the challenges faced by big horn sheep due to domestic sheep grazing. They also address the auctioning of hunting tags, which can lead to a disparity in access to hunting opportunities based on wealth. Callaghan and Carruth highlight the importance of community engagement in conservation efforts, urging listeners to support organizations like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and the National Wildlife Federation. They advocate for a nonpartisan approach to public land issues, emphasizing that these lands belong to everyone and should be preserved for future generations. The conversation concludes with a call to action for listeners to educate themselves and participate in protecting public lands, reinforcing the idea that once these lands are lost, they are gone forever.

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Joe Rogan Experience #1204 - Steven Rinella
Guests: Steven Rinella
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Steven Rinella and Joe Rogan discuss their shared African ancestry, with Rinella revealing he is 2% African and Rogan 1.6%. They delve into their family histories, particularly Rinella's Sicilian roots and his father's upbringing in Chicago. The conversation shifts to genetic testing and its limitations, with Rinella noting that such tests may not capture the full picture of one's ancestry. They explore the historical context of Neanderthals, discussing misconceptions about their intelligence and behavior. Rinella mentions a study suggesting Neanderthals had a confrontational hunting style, evidenced by their skeletal injuries, and contrasts this with modern perceptions of them as brutish. Rogan and Rinella also touch on the cultural implications of hunting and the public's perception of wildlife management, particularly regarding species like wolves and grizzly bears. Rinella emphasizes the importance of hunting as a means of conservation and resource management, arguing that hunters play a crucial role in maintaining wildlife populations. He expresses concern over the commodification of wildlife and the potential negative impacts on hunting culture. The discussion includes the challenges of managing invasive species and the complexities of public attitudes toward wildlife conservation. They also discuss Rinella's new cookbook, "The MeatEater Fishing Game Cookbook," which features recipes and techniques for various game animals, emphasizing the importance of utilizing the entire animal. Rinella shares anecdotes about his experiences hunting and cooking, highlighting the cultural significance of these practices. The conversation concludes with reflections on the relationship between humans and nature, the challenges of wildlife management, and the need for a nuanced understanding of hunting and conservation. Rinella expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his perspective and the importance of engaging with the complexities of wildlife issues.
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