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In 2017, the New York Times exposed a secret government UFO program, spurring congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics of UAPs, which require investigation. Acknowledging the reality of these phenomena marks a shift. Witnesses claim firsthand knowledge of nonhuman craft, including crashes and retrievals. Recovered biologics were reportedly nonhuman. Some believe the American people are being lied to, but the government claims openness. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA face pressure to respond. Some risk their lives to uncover more. Verification is sought regarding the US government's alleged possession of nonhuman spaceships. Such revelations challenge people's beliefs. One individual would risk jail to disclose information from the program.

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Speaker 0 notes that the last administration was not transparent on the issue, but with the task force created, they have guided members within what they're cleared for. He asserts that they have encountered alien beings and recovered vehicles, with physical proof, and that he was partially cleared into those activities, having read intelligence reports from those programs. Speaker 1 reflects that online discourse about encounters and videos is plentiful, and asks if there is belief that the US government knows about alien beings coming to Earth. Speaker 0 responds that he doesn’t like to characterize where they came from, but they are definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. He claims to have recovered vehicles and physical proof and says he had partial access to the data and to intelligence reports. He confirms seeing with his own eyes according to his account. Speaker 2 says NASA speaks for itself and claims transparency with data, and asks whether to believe David Crush or if he is lying, and where the evidence is. Speaker 0 asserts that members of the current administration are very aware of this reality and the current president is knowledgeable on the subject. He trusts the president’s leadership and believes the president has assembled a team; he says if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3 says he has access and has had meetings with very smart people who believe there is something out there, and it makes sense there could be. He is not convinced himself. He asks if the person believes one, that he knows, and two, that he’s open to transparency on UAPs. Speaker 0 reiterates that the president is very well informed on the issue, and avoids revealing more than the president might want to reveal. He notes a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 1 asks about years of threat and testimony. Speaker 0 says he was physically threatened even before submitting his intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration, and sought legal protection because of professional and personal fear. Speaker 1 asks about recovering pilots or remains and whether that was seen with his own eyes. Speaker 0 confirms there were pictures and says yes, there were remains. Speaker 1 questions whether the origin is from another planet or outer space, and if it is interdimensional, seeking clarification. Speaker 0 explains he has talked to many veterans of the program and keeps an open mind on origin. He acknowledges an extraterrestrial hypothesis but does not usually go there because he did not see the data, and he is not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government has. He is not aware of any remains or signs of extraterrestrial beings or technology by his department. Speaker 3 says the US government knows, but asks whether other governments know. Speaker 0 says they know and have their own programs, and notes that two and a half years ago the US has been in an arms race with peer competitors like Russia and China, who have their own programs. He says he was able to view intelligence discussing adversarial programs and will leave it at that. Speaker 3 states that they’ve recovered things, and Speaker 0 confirms, noting there were bodies and physical remains. They discuss whether the motive or intent of the visitors was peaceful or not, acknowledging a mixed bag of activity and motive. They consider whether Earth’s genetic material could be a reason for visits, even jokingly proposing Jurassic Park as a tourist attraction for genetic material on Earth.

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Today, we have a firsthand witness who has retrieved a UFO. I trained as a pilot and have served in various combat roles, including deployments in Bosnia and Kuwait. When asked about the companies involved in UFO crash retrievals, I suggest two guesses would lead to the right answers. I believe there are underwater UFO bases, particularly during the Clinton era. Yes, I have retrieved nonhuman craft. I receive GPS coordinates and a brief description just before dispatching to pick it up. I refer to this experience as ontological relief, realizing that what we perceive as "other" may actually be part of us, blurring the lines between outer space and inner space.

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Speaker 0: Have you ever recognized I’m extremely respectful of your clearances and things that you can’t talk about. But has there ever been an instance where you’ve heard somebody’s UAP story and thought, that looks like something from a blue or black page I’ve seen in my past? Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, sir, this is no joke. There is a great man I hope you have on your podcast. Some people have, for example, this professor Dave, who has put him down greatly, and others have called him all kinds of ad hominem attacks. His name is Ashton Forbes of the mh three seventy files. Let’s call them that. He has a pod named Hard Truths Podcast. He has a very interesting set of videos that he has been putting forward and trying to understand the physics, and in my opinion, he has gotten somewhere. And as a matter of fact, this guy is in the health care industry, and yet his ability to take, for example, a physics paper, he’s very interested in, for example, a neutronic fusion. So in other words, without the production of neutrons, fusion being very essential to the power plant, the way these things operate. And in my opinion, one should pay very much attention to what Ashton has to say. It’s those videos, I have never seen anything more remarkable that show the Pais effect in action than those videos. And if indeed somebody took the time to go for the incredible amount of work, in my opinion, to get the physics right, for example, when these three orbs coalesce around the aircraft and start pulsing energy, which is exactly what I’m talking about, a resonance condition being set around the craft, breaking the Schwing limit, you actually see the black hole formation. I don’t know what else to say. But if that is not the Pais effect, right there for everyone to see, I don’t know what it is. Speaker 1: Again, I call it the Pais effect because, again, this is in the wide world now. They cannot take these back. They’ve already, how should I say it, they’ve let them out there. So now they’re in the public eye. Speaker 1: But I think it’s very important, Ashton and I were talking about this, that this is the kind of disclosure you need. It is one thing to keep on hearing, oh, NHI is this. Are we not proud of being humans? Are we not capable of great feats of engineering and physics? Do we not take pride in who we are? Speaker 1: We’re Homo sapiens sapiens, and that’s where we stand. And let anyone come against our species. We shall defeat them because we’re humans. We’re very, very special in this galaxy, sir. In this whole universe, I think we hold a very special place. Speaker 1: Maybe that’s why they visit us.

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Speaker 1 confirms the existence of non-human biologics associated with recovered crashed craft. The assessment comes from individuals with direct knowledge of the program. The specific documentation regarding this would need to be discussed in a secure facility. Speaker 0 asks about the government officials, agencies, and contractors that should be called in for future hearings on UAPs. Speaker 1 offers to provide a list of specific individuals after the hearing. Speaker 0 expresses gratitude and yields back.

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The US government retrieves crashed UFOs to reverse engineer their technology. However, the reasons for these crashes raise questions. It's unlikely that advanced extraterrestrial species would build unreliable ships. Additionally, the military's reported loss of trillions of dollars seems implausible, suggesting that funds are being used for a secret space program. This program likely involves developing weapons using reverse-engineered extraterrestrial technology. If the military can shoot down UFOs, why aren't these advanced species defending themselves? If they can travel across galaxies, they should possess the means to protect themselves. The lack of defense raises further questions about the true nature of these encounters.

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Speaker 0 (anonymous whistleblower): Government seems to be involved. They’re definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. We’ve recovered the vehicles and have physical proof. I was partially cleared into those activities and had access to the data, reading intelligence reports resulting from those programs. Speaker 1: And with your own eyes you’ve seen it. So when people say this is kooky, there’s nothing to back it up… Speaker 2 (NASA): NASA is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mister David Crush said, or is he lying? Whatever he said, where’s the evidence? Speaker 1: What do you say? Speaker 0: Members of this administration are very aware of this reality; the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership. I think he’s assembled a cabinet, and I believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3: I have access and have spoken to people about it. I’ve had meetings with very smart, solid people who believe there is something out there. It makes sense there could be, but I’ve never been convinced, despite that. It’s not my thing. Speaker 1: So you think, one, he knows, and two, he’s open to transparency on UAPs? He’s very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don’t want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal. There’s been a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 0: I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration. I had to seek legal protection because I was fearful professionally and personally. Speaker 1: And when you mention recovering pilots or remains nonhuman, that’s something you saw in the intelligence with your eyes? Speaker 0: Yes. There were pictures. It’s uncomfortable to discuss because it’s outside a normal worldview to understand there is a biological sentience that piloted these crafts and does not necessarily look 100% like us. Speaker 1: Were there pictures? Speaker 0: There were. Speaker 1: When I said from another planet or outer space, you said you don’t know where they’re from. Is it interdimensional? What are we talking about? Speaker 0: I’ve talked to a lot of graybeards about the origin. I leave an open mind. There is an extraterrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I didn’t see that data. I’m not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government had. I’m not aware of any remains the department has of extraterrestrial beings or technology. Speaker 1: Do other governments know? Do they have programs? Speaker 0: They have their own programs. Two and a half years ago we’ve been in an arms race with peer competitors—Russia and China—and they have their own programs. I viewed a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. Speaker 1: We’ve recovered things—bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense of their motive or whether it’s peaceful or not? We’ve seen a mixed bag of motives. Speaker 0: Activity and motive vary; the reasons for visiting are not fully understood. Could it be because we have interesting genetic material on Earth and we’re a Jurassic Park tourist attraction? There could be a myriad of reasons. Speaker 1: For other people coming forward, what do you say about intimidation? There are reports of harassment. There’s hope. Congress values whistleblower information now, and there’s appetite to do the right thing. There are things happening behind the scenes that the administration may discuss when ready. Speaker 1: We’ll follow every element. It’s fascinating. Speaker 0: Thanks for having me. Speaker 4: Sean Hannity here. Subscribe to Fox News YouTube pay.

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The Pentagon has acknowledged a program to study UFOs that extends into the current century. The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was designed to identify anomalous aircraft and determine if they pose a threat to national security. According to one individual, the program found a lot and identified very interesting anomalous aircraft. There is compelling evidence that we may not be alone.

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Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

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I interviewed a former employee who spent 12 years in black programs at Groom Lake. When I asked if he believed in UFOs, he firmly stated that they absolutely exist but couldn't elaborate. A year later, during another discussion about Groom Lake, I inquired about the activities there. He mentioned that there are many things happening that he couldn't disclose until 2025. He added that the technology in the Nevada desert would make George Lucas envious.

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Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee task force on the declassification of federal secrets, discusses what she describes as evidence of interdimensional beings operating through existing time spaces. She references photo and video material from classified briefings that are now being made public, including a video “dead dropped” to Representative Eric Burleson from within the Department of War showing a UAP/ unidentified aerial phenomena deflecting a Hellfire missile, captured from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Luna says there is evidence of an advanced technology not created by mankind, and while some cases previously labeled as UAPs were later identified as drones, there remains a portion of evidence that cannot be explained. She notes that multiple governments have examined these phenomena, and emphasizes a national security perspective: as AI and drone technology evolve, it is important to determine whether these are potential adversarial weapons. She argues that the federal government’s denial of access to some members of Congress is alarming and incompatible with a free, transparent society, and she expects the American people to draw their own conclusions after reviewing the evidence. Luna adds that Representative Gates joined the initial codal discussion with her and Representative Tim Burchett, and stated that if viewers have seen the material they have seen, they too would become believers. She then questions whether the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings, asking whether the technology could be something the U.S. possesses that others should not know about, or if it indicates capabilities possessed by a foreign actor that operate in ways that are hard to understand. Based on interviews and testimony she has reviewed, she says there is reason to believe the tech is not created by mankind, though she concedes it is also possible that certain advanced U.S. weapons could be involved. The conversation centers on the accessibility of evidence, the secrecy surrounding it, and the potential implications for national security and public transparency.

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I interviewed a former employee who spent 12 years in black programs at Groom Lake. When I asked if he believed in UFOs, he replied, "Absolutely, positively, they do exist," but he couldn't elaborate. A year later, I inquired about activities at Groom Lake, and he mentioned there were many things he couldn't disclose until 2025. He added that the technology in the Nevada desert would make George Lucas envious.

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There's significant chaos behind the scenes regarding UAP disclosure. Two individuals connected to former Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines revealed a slow drip disclosure agenda originating from her office. The aim was to create the impression that the U.S. government had not seriously investigated UAPs for the past 15 to 20 years, particularly following the Nimitz incident. This plan, spanning 15 to 20 years, consists of several phases. The first phase involves using the James Webb Telescope to release images of artificial structures on distant celestial bodies. Subsequent phases include identifying artificial structures on the Moon and Mars, linking these to archaeological sites on Earth, and ultimately excavating humanoid remains believed to be connected to these anomalies.

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Former intelligence officer David Grush, in a whistleblower complaint taken seriously by the inspector general, claims that the US government has found and kept secret fully intact UFOs of nonhuman origin. Grush alleges that a top-secret military program has been retrieving nonhuman spacecraft that have either landed or crashed, and that there are quite a number of them. He says he has provided classified proof to Congress and the intelligence community inspector general, but cannot show it for national security reasons. The Pentagon has released a statement saying they have no verifiable information to substantiate these claims. Journalist Leslie Kane, who broke the story, believes Grush based on her multiple sources.

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Chris Mellon, a former U.S. intelligence official with about twenty years of experience in the Defense Department and on the Senate Intelligence Committee, shared remarks in response to the UAP documentary Age of Disclosure. He references the documentary’s claim that the Air Force maintained a secret program in the 1990s to track UAP near Area 51 and other sensitive military facilities, a claim attributed to General James Clapper, former Director of U.S. Air Force Intelligence and former Director of National Intelligence. Mellon asks several pointed questions about whether that secret Air Force UAP program still exists today, where the data resides, and what the Air Force has learned. He critiques the Air Force for its handling of information requests from Congress. Specifically, he notes that when Congress sought UAP information in the 2020 intelligence authorization bill, the Air Force denied possessing relevant information beyond a handful of recently submitted, non-sensitive reports issued after DoD guidance in 2020 required all military components to report UAP sightings. Mellon contends that the Air Force brass appear to treat Congress with contempt, even if not legally unlawful, and he expresses belief that the secret Air Force UAP program described by Clapper, or a similar program, remains quietly active behind the scenes. He argues this could explain several anomalies in UAP reporting. Mellon highlights incidents to illustrate his concerns: - Air Force F-22s, despite superior sensors, did not report UAP operating in DoD training areas off the East Coast, while Navy F-18s routinely detected and reported UAP on the same ranges. - The USS Princeton radar data from the Nimitz/UAP case allegedly disappeared after U.S. Air Force officers visited the ship. - There are multiple instances where Navy data was reportedly removed by Air Force personnel. - Nimitz deck logs from the period of Princeton UAP tracking in 2004 are missing. - The Air Force has reportedly never reported UAP detected by its strategic radar systems, including solid-state phased array radars with vast range and coverage, even when UAP were detected for days directly in front of these emitters. - No NORAD UAP intercept cases from recent decades were submitted with the 2021 UAP report to Congress, including the well-known UAP incident over the Bush Ranch in Texas, where F-16 pilots reportedly were compelled to sign NDAs by the Air Force. - As recently as the previous year, the Air Force refused to provide NORAD UAP intercept data to DOD’s All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office in Congress. - There are no reports of UAP in space despite a substantial U.S. Air Force space surveillance capability. - The Air Force reportedly seized Navy sonar data obtained after an encounter by a U.S. nuclear submarine with an underwater UAP. Mellon concludes that the Air Force may be withholding UAP data by placing it in an obscure, highly secret “waived special access program” inaccessible to even the chair and ranking members of the intelligence committees, or by invoking authorities such as the Atomic Energy Act to justify concealing data. He suggests the Air Force could claim to be merely the executive agent for the CIA or the National Nuclear Security Agency, creating a potential reporting gap where one agency’s claim of responsibility shifts the burden, allowing the other to deny accountability. Mellon characterizes this dynamic as a possible exploitation of a fissure in the current congressional military and intelligence reporting framework, describing it as a “deep state” mechanism that avoids full congressional visibility into UAP information.

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The speaker states they came into contact with industry leaders, technical scientists, active duty and retired military personnel, intelligence officers, generals, admirals, and colonels who directed intelligence at the DIA and CIA. These individuals reached out to the speaker to conduct foreign UAP intelligence analysis and assessment. Based on exposure to classified information, the speaker claims definitively that UAPs are real. The speaker alleges that major world governments, including the United States, China, and Russia, have recovered UAP craft that have landed, crashed, or been found in or outside their territories. These recovered materials have been taken to highly sensitive programs, even more secretive than the Manhattan Project or the modern nuclear weapons industry.

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In 2017, a New York Times story exposed a secret government UFO program, leading to congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics. Acknowledging UAPs is a recent development. One speaker stated that, based on interviews, the government possesses UAPs and that sources claim crash retrievals have occurred, including nonhuman biologics. Another speaker stated that the American people are being lied to. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA will have to respond. One speaker has feared for their life. When asked about verifying the US government's possession of spaceships of nonhuman intelligence, one speaker stated they would go to jail to reveal what they know.

Weaponized

Anatomy Of A UFO Crash Retrieval : WEAPONIZED : EP #95
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The episode centers on a deep dive into what the hosts describe as an anatomy of a crash retrieval, anchoring the discussion in the September 23 incident on public land near Area 51. The hosts recount how immediate responses appeared orchestrated, from securing the area and diverting traffic to staging a multi-day operation with specialized equipment, porta-potties, and an on-site team. They emphasize that public reporting to date has largely been inaccurate and suggest that a coordinated effort exists to control information. The conversation weaves in on-the-ground reporting from York Arnu, who tracks radio traffic and footage from the scene, illustrating how pieces were gathered and subsequently swept away. The episode frames these events as a test case for how the military would respond to a real-life crash, including potential attempts to mislead the public with a cover story and disinformation, while downplaying the significance of the crash itself by attributing it to a drone from Creech Air Force Base. Throughout the dialogue, the hosts stress the presence of dedicated teams trained to handle crash retrievals, and they discuss historical examples and rumors surrounding programs that purportedly recovered from the sky. They touch on the tension between journalists and intelligence agencies, noting chill effects and pressure to refrain from reporting. The conversation also touches on media ecosystems, FOIA challenges, and the role of public land access in these sensitive operations, including past cases like the Kingman incidents and Needles sightings. They close by highlighting ongoing interviews and planned disclosures with figures linked to OSAP and the broader UAP disclosure conversation, while inviting the audience to scrutinize sources and pursue corroborating information through FOIA and other channels.

Shawn Ryan Show

Tim Burchett - Non-human Biologics, UFO Encounters, and Mexico's Alien Bodies | SRS #78 Part 2
Guests: Tim Burchett, Matt Gaetz, David Fravor, David Grusch
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The discussion on the Shawn Ryan Show centers around recent UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) hearings and testimonies from military pilots and officials. Key points include the description of UAPs, notably dark gray or black cubes within clear spheres, as reported by military pilots who have encountered these objects. The conversation highlights skepticism towards government agencies like NASA and the Pentagon, suggesting they are seeking funding under the guise of studying UAPs while previously denying their existence. Tim Burchett expresses frustration over the lack of transparency and accountability, arguing that government agencies are more interested in securing funding than providing the public with information. He criticizes the secrecy surrounding UAP data, asserting that excessive classification hinders understanding and fuels distrust. Burchett also discusses the recent UAP hearings in Mexico, questioning the credibility of claims made there and suggesting they may have been a publicity stunt. The testimonies from pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves reveal firsthand encounters with UAPs, including descriptions of their extraordinary capabilities, such as rapid acceleration and maneuverability that defies current human technology. Graves emphasizes the stigma faced by pilots reporting UAP sightings, which discourages open discussion and reporting. David Grusch, a whistleblower, claims that the U.S. government is involved in secret programs related to UAPs, including crash retrieval and reverse engineering efforts. He mentions the existence of non-human biologics associated with these crafts, raising further questions about the government's transparency. Overall, the conversation underscores a growing interest in UAPs, the need for accountability, and the challenges faced by those seeking to uncover the truth behind these phenomena.

American Alchemy

Are Aliens Accelerating Human Evolution? (Ft. Chris Ramsay)
Guests: Chris Ramsay
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Jesse and Chris talk through the Area 52 UFO channel and Chris’s shift from magic to UFO research, praising a thoughtful approach that blends curiosity with skepticism. Chris explains how his background in magic—misdirection, psychology, and memory—gives him a distinctive lens for examining non-human intelligence, UFOs, and the idea of a conscious universe. They discuss building a believable ‘Area 52’ world through careful questions, a strong set, and narrative world-building, while avoiding definitive claims. They touch on government research into consciousness and the Stargate program, the appeal of methodological puzzles, and the value of stories in shaping public understanding without declaring settled truth. They dive into the recent whistleblower chatter about crash retrievals and submerged mobile construction units, describing teams that allegedly recover and dismantle alien crafts and their ‘biologics’ while vessels occasionally re-emerge to export components. The narrative shifts to the questions of why beings visit Earth: a maintenance system, a zoo, or a catalyst for a later ascension. The conversation acknowledges multiple potential authors of ‘non-human’ tech and hints at a broader, multi-species landscape. They reference real-world debates about government secrecy, technological asymmetry, and the ethics of documenting experiences without coercion or sensationalism. The talk shifts to craft and cognition: Chris describes how storytelling, immersive visuals, and a magician’s sense for audience perception shape Ufology’s appeal, while Jesse emphasizes staying open to possibilities without surrendering critical rigor. They discuss memory, data integrity, and the gap between public narratives and private experiences, acknowledging that memory is reconstructive and that witnesses sometimes reinterpret events. The episode champions curiosity, responsible narration, and the value of expertise—drawing on science, philosophy of mind, and the arts—to color the search for truth while keeping space for wonder.

Weaponized

UFO Lessons from Lacatski - The Doctor of Disclosure
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The episode centers on a high-profile former DIA official who helped design and run the largest U.S. government UFO investigation to date, and the hosts discuss how his disclosures have evolved from guarded briefings to more explicit statements about non-human intelligence and technology. The conversation covers the implications of his security clearances, including a specific level associated with nuclear and energy-related work, and why that detail matters for understanding potential weaponization and oversight. Across the discussion, the hosts and their guest argue that the information flow has shifted from clandestine channels to controlled disclosure, with the guest choosing to publish in books and participate in interviews as a strategic way to structure what can be revealed while maintaining national security. They examine the tension between accountability and secrecy, noting how scrutiny from Congress and public curiosity has grown as more officials and researchers speak publicly about sensitive programs and the existence of advanced craft. The dialogue also delves into how media coverage, online commentary, and interviews influence public perception, highlighting the role of counterintelligence practices in preventing leaks while allowing certain disclosures to proceed through vetted channels. Throughout, the speakers emphasize a broader pattern: significant admissions—such as confirming the existence of a non-human craft and the pursuit of reverse engineering—are framed as incremental steps toward a formal, safeguarded disclosure rather than a bombshell reveal. They reflect on the cultural impact of these developments and the potential consequences for national security, policy, and future congressional engagement, while acknowledging mixed reactions to the guest’s credibility and the evolving narrative around these programs.

Weaponized

Saucers, Bodies, Debris - The Lost Tapes Of UFO Whistleblower Col. Corso : WEAPONIZED : EPISODE #43
Guests: Phillip Corso, Zachary Ward, Michael Lazovsky, Oliver Lewis
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In this episode of Weaponized, hosts George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell discuss Colonel Philip Corso, a significant military figure who claimed to have firsthand knowledge of UFOs and reverse engineering programs. Corso, who testified about abandoned POWs in Korea, later revealed that he had seen Roswell wreckage and alien bodies. He asserted that the U.S. Army seeded private companies with alien technology, leading to advancements like fiber optics and laser technology. Corbell shares his experience of interviewing Corso in 1996, where Corso recounted meeting a live alien in New Mexico and described the alien's unique physical features. Corso's claims, documented in his book *The Day After Roswell*, have sparked debate about the origins of certain technologies and the extent of government cover-ups regarding UFOs. The hosts emphasize that Corso's military credentials lend credibility to his assertions, suggesting that the reverse engineering of UFOs is plausible. They also highlight the ongoing challenges whistleblowers face in revealing information about extraterrestrial technology, especially in light of recent congressional hearings. The discussion touches on the secrecy surrounding UFO programs and the potential implications for national security and technological advancement. As the conversation unfolds, they ponder whether the truth about UFOs and reverse engineering will ever be fully disclosed to the public.

American Alchemy

"I Located A UFO Base In Arizona!" (Ft. Ross Coulthart)
Guests: Ross Coulthart
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Jesse Michels and Ross Coulthart discuss a dramatic sighting near Secret Mountain, where a gigantic golden orb was escorted by helicopters at 1:30 in the morning. A radar contact claimed, 'a mile behind us and it's following us.' Witnesses describe a pulsating, plasmatic object with symbols around the top, raising questions about whether this is a global control system or something else. The conversation treats it as a real anomaly unfolding now. One early source from a Georgetown pub allegedly said, 'It's all about consciousness.' Coulthart notes insiders insist, 'We are not alone. We're definitely not alone.' The discussion shifts from observation to interpretation, referencing a Peruvian mummies case and a Colombia 'bug sphere' video. Symbols around the sphere trigger expert reactions, while the speakers neither confirm nor deny. They emphasize the persistence of unusual phenomena and the limits of explanation offered so far. Further, the show recounts a sphere moving under its own power, photographs of top symbols, and attempts to test the artifact—ultimately a plan to fly it to Utah for lab testing with Brandon Fugle and Skinwalker Ranch. Authority questions persist about provenance, access, and what tests would reveal. An AI reading reportedly surfaced the word 'circuit,' fueling discussion about whether the markings encode electronics or something more mysterious. The conversation widens to UAP history and security, including a Navy scientist's admission that early drone work existed, and a web of alleged retrievals and cover stories. The speakers argue Blue Book was a public relations operation and that some craft may have been recovered or studied secretly. They stress the danger to whistleblowers and journalists when information leaks or investigations threaten the secrecy regime. Across the Pacific, Harry Turner, Maralinga, and Woomera anchor a long arc of Five Eyes collaboration, cross-pollination among physicists, plausible deniability, NDAs, and covert operations. The discussion ties Roswell, Aztec, and Kingman to a legacy program, and notes that some Australian personnel say they were asked to keep silent while odds of retrievals were explored. The claim is that authorities continually kept such programs secret from their own governments.

American Alchemy

How I Know David Grusch Is Not Lying…
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David Grush, a former Afghanistan combat veteran and a 14-year senior Intel officer with top-secret compartmented clearance, claims a covert, multi-decade-long UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program being funded by American taxpayer dollars. He's brought 40 people who have handled exotic UFO material firsthand to the intelligence community's Inspector General, and he testified about his findings under oath in front of Congress this summer. The discussion covers why UFOs consistently show up around nuclear sites, referencing 'UFOs and Nukes' and the claim that nuclear secrecy serves UFO secrecy. Grush says the Atomic Energy Act of 1954’s language protects UFO secrets as radiological energy, and Jacques Vallee notes DOE custody as most applicable. The Manhattan Project is described as the original UFO program, linking UFO activity to atomic programs. The discussion also touches Townzen Brown, Wright Patterson's anti-gravity work, JFK-era inquiries, and renewed calls for access to investigate.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves
Guests: Ryan Graves
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Jamie Vernon: Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. Ryan Graves: The Joe Rogan experience. Joe Rogan: Good to see you again. What's the latest with you, Ryan? Besides the baby news, of course. Ryan Graves: Thanks! I wanted to discuss the drone situation. It's concerning, and there are many narratives, some quite alarming. The scariest rumor is that drones are searching for gamma radiation due to a missing nuclear weapon. Ryan Graves: I've interacted with various government organizations, including those focused on weapons of mass destruction. They assured me there is no loose nuke or imminent threat, which gives me confidence that this isn't a response to a weapons of mass destruction threat. Joe Rogan: How do they convince you? Just by saying so? Ryan Graves: Essentially, they are the ones actively working on it. If there were a threat, they would be working around the clock to resolve it. Joe Rogan: I heard it might be a missing nuke from Ukraine. Could drones detect gamma radiation? Ryan Graves: Teams typically respond to such emergencies, but using hundreds of drones isn't standard. Gamma radiation is well-shielded, making it hard to detect from high altitudes. Ground teams are more effective for this. Joe Rogan: That eases my mind. Social media spreads so many narratives. Ryan Graves: Exactly. This drone activity has been ongoing for at least two years, particularly around military bases like Langley Air Force Base, where there were incursions last year. This year, the activity has expanded significantly. Joe Rogan: Why can't they track these drones? Ryan Graves: It's a complex issue. The objects seem to be coming from over the ocean, and various agencies are aware of them. They are detected through radar and optical systems but are flying very low and sometimes in groups. Joe Rogan: That's strange. How many sightings are we talking about? Ryan Graves: I estimate over 800 or 1,000. The sightings are not just a few isolated incidents; they are widespread. Joe Rogan: Are they exhibiting extraordinary movements? Ryan Graves: Some are making sharp turns, indicating significant power supply, but we don't have technology that can evade detection completely. Joe Rogan: Have any been shot down? Ryan Graves: There are rumors, but no confirmed incidents. People are taking matters into their own hands, which is concerning. Jamie Vernon: There was a plane crash mistaken for a drone incident. Ryan Graves: Yes, that was a small plane crash. The misinformation is rampant, especially on social media. Joe Rogan: Elon Musk seems to be quiet about this topic. Ryan Graves: He has interests in space and technology, which may limit what he can say. Joe Rogan: The prevalence of these drones is unsettling. Why haven't they been dealt with? Ryan Graves: There are outdated laws regarding airspace and privacy that complicate responses. Base commanders have limited authority to act without higher approval. Joe Rogan: Have there been any incidents of drones being shot down? Jamie Vernon: New Jersey lawmakers recently asked if they could shoot one down for inspection. Ryan Graves: There are reports of missing radioactive material, which could be related. Joe Rogan: What’s your background? Ryan Graves: I'm a trained aerospace engineer and a former Navy pilot who flew the F-18 Super Hornet. I became involved in UAP discussions after encountering unexplained objects during my service. Joe Rogan: What did you see? Ryan Graves: We consistently detected objects with advanced capabilities that we couldn't visually identify. This led to safety concerns and reports being filed. Joe Rogan: What about the Gimbal and GoFast videos? Ryan Graves: Those were recorded during training exercises and showed objects exhibiting unusual flight patterns. Joe Rogan: What do you think about the government’s response to these sightings? Ryan Graves: There needs to be a public, unclassified investigation into UAPs, involving various government agencies and scientific communities. Joe Rogan: What would it take for full disclosure? Ryan Graves: Stronger whistleblower protections and a commitment from the government to share information with the public. Joe Rogan: If it turns out these are our technologies, what then? Ryan Graves: We need to be transparent about our capabilities and ensure we stay ahead of adversaries. Joe Rogan: What if it’s not our technology? Ryan Graves: That raises even more questions about the nature of these objects and their origin. Joe Rogan: What do you think the future holds for this conversation? Ryan Graves: The momentum is building, and with the right leadership, we can advance our understanding of UAPs and their implications for humanity. Joe Rogan: Thanks for sharing your insights, Ryan. Ryan Graves: Thank you, Joe.
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