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In 2017, the New York Times exposed a secret government UFO program, spurring congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics of UAPs, which require investigation. Acknowledging the reality of these phenomena marks a shift. Witnesses claim firsthand knowledge of nonhuman craft, including crashes and retrievals. Recovered biologics were reportedly nonhuman. Some believe the American people are being lied to, but the government claims openness. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA face pressure to respond. Some risk their lives to uncover more. Verification is sought regarding the US government's alleged possession of nonhuman spaceships. Such revelations challenge people's beliefs. One individual would risk jail to disclose information from the program.

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Speaker 0 notes that the last administration was not transparent on the issue, but with the task force created, they have guided members within what they're cleared for. He asserts that they have encountered alien beings and recovered vehicles, with physical proof, and that he was partially cleared into those activities, having read intelligence reports from those programs. Speaker 1 reflects that online discourse about encounters and videos is plentiful, and asks if there is belief that the US government knows about alien beings coming to Earth. Speaker 0 responds that he doesn’t like to characterize where they came from, but they are definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. He claims to have recovered vehicles and physical proof and says he had partial access to the data and to intelligence reports. He confirms seeing with his own eyes according to his account. Speaker 2 says NASA speaks for itself and claims transparency with data, and asks whether to believe David Crush or if he is lying, and where the evidence is. Speaker 0 asserts that members of the current administration are very aware of this reality and the current president is knowledgeable on the subject. He trusts the president’s leadership and believes the president has assembled a team; he says if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3 says he has access and has had meetings with very smart people who believe there is something out there, and it makes sense there could be. He is not convinced himself. He asks if the person believes one, that he knows, and two, that he’s open to transparency on UAPs. Speaker 0 reiterates that the president is very well informed on the issue, and avoids revealing more than the president might want to reveal. He notes a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 1 asks about years of threat and testimony. Speaker 0 says he was physically threatened even before submitting his intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration, and sought legal protection because of professional and personal fear. Speaker 1 asks about recovering pilots or remains and whether that was seen with his own eyes. Speaker 0 confirms there were pictures and says yes, there were remains. Speaker 1 questions whether the origin is from another planet or outer space, and if it is interdimensional, seeking clarification. Speaker 0 explains he has talked to many veterans of the program and keeps an open mind on origin. He acknowledges an extraterrestrial hypothesis but does not usually go there because he did not see the data, and he is not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government has. He is not aware of any remains or signs of extraterrestrial beings or technology by his department. Speaker 3 says the US government knows, but asks whether other governments know. Speaker 0 says they know and have their own programs, and notes that two and a half years ago the US has been in an arms race with peer competitors like Russia and China, who have their own programs. He says he was able to view intelligence discussing adversarial programs and will leave it at that. Speaker 3 states that they’ve recovered things, and Speaker 0 confirms, noting there were bodies and physical remains. They discuss whether the motive or intent of the visitors was peaceful or not, acknowledging a mixed bag of activity and motive. They consider whether Earth’s genetic material could be a reason for visits, even jokingly proposing Jurassic Park as a tourist attraction for genetic material on Earth.

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The purpose of recent sightings is to prompt the rapid disclosure of extraterrestrial presence on Earth. Negative extraterrestrials interact with U.S. officials under strict secrecy agreements to protect their activities, which have been ongoing for thousands of years. If the public were aware of these extraterrestrials, it would disrupt their operations. In contrast, positive extraterrestrials have been excluded from government interactions and are now trying to reach out directly to the public. This effort is part of a broader strategy that will be discussed further in the future.

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Speaker 0 describes unidentified phenomena operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, stating that these are not ours and that they are “otherworldly things” performing maneuvers that have not been seen. He asserts that he has seen with his own eyes nonhuman craft and nonhuman beings. Speaker 1 emphasizes the extraordinary secrecy surrounding the matter, noting that there have been “very few people in our entire government” who have been allowed or provided access to it. Speaker 0 adds that even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis, but argues that the system is beginning to ramp out of control. He states that it is not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. He says that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, and that some individuals claimed it would cost them their lives, yet they spoke out about these things. He further claims that there was information being locked away that could change the trajectory for a species. Speaker 0 concludes by calling the matter “the biggest discovery in human history,” underscoring the enormity of the claimed revelation and its potential implications. In sum, the speakers discuss the presence of nonhuman, apparently otherworldly craft and beings operating in restricted airspace over nuclear facilities, the extreme secrecy and unprecedented access restrictions within the government, the personal risks and sacrifices of those who spoke out, and the belief that suppressing the information has prevented potentially world- or species-changing insights, culminating in the assertion that this constitutes the biggest discovery in human history.

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Speaker 0 asks if a higher form of non-human intelligence has visited Earth. Speaker 1 responds that non-human intelligence exists and has been interacting with humanity for a long time. Furthermore, this interaction is not new, it's ongoing, and there are unelected people in the government who are aware of it. Speaker 0 notes this is a bold statement and asks how confident Speaker 1 is that it is true. Speaker 1 states there is zero doubt.

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Many drones, likely from communist China, are increasingly flying near our military bases. This uptick coincides with more incursions by Chinese nationals. It seems they are preparing for a potential attack on the U.S. from within our own borders. There's no need for an explicit warning from Beijing; the threat is evident. We are at risk of being targeted, yet we are not taking adequate measures to safeguard our bases or protect the American people.

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The U.S. government was aware of extraterrestrial presence by July 1947 and chose to keep it secret. Witnesses of various incidents have sought to testify before Congress for 30 years. The situation has escalated, with extraterrestrials increasing their activities across multiple continents. The government is aware of these incursions but cannot engage them directly, as shooting them down is not an option and piloted craft could crash. Instead, drones are being deployed to monitor the situation.

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A group of former Air Force officers is calling on the U.S. government to disclose what it knows about extraterrestrial interference. They claim UFOs are visiting military bases. These UFOs are allegedly distracting or deactivating nuclear weapons.

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Mr. Elizondo, regarding the aircraft potentially piloted by non-human entities, it’s reasonable to assume they are intelligently controlled, as they often anticipate our maneuvers. In a secure email among Navy officers, the term "stalked" was used to describe UAPs pursuing ships. While some suggest these could be interdimensional beings, I can only analyze from a scientific perspective. For instance, human bodies can endure about 9 g forces, and our best aircraft, the F-16, can handle around 17-18 g forces before structural failure. In contrast, these UAPs reportedly perform at over 1,000 g forces. I’m not ready to declare if these vehicles are alive, as our definitions of life are evolving. Science has shown us that life can exist in forms previously thought impossible, challenging our understanding of what constitutes life.

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Christopher Sharp mentioned a blocked transfer involving Lockheed Martin, Bigelow Aerospace, and the CIA. It was confirmed that the transfer was indeed blocked, but the reasons remain unclear. There have been reports of recovered biologics, which I am aware of. Regarding communication with nonhuman life forms, the term "communication" can be misleading. While verbal communication is one aspect, non-verbal communication exists as well. For example, when a Russian reconnaissance aircraft enters U.S. airspace, we respond with F-22s, signaling our intent and capabilities. Similarly, observed objects in U.S. airspace are not hiding well and have shown the ability to interfere with our nuclear operations and readiness.

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An F-22 Raptor, the top U.S. fighter jet, was reportedly surrounded and forced out of its patrol area by orbs. The F-22 broke trajectory to evade, but was intercepted and boxed in by 3-6 UAPs. One UAP maneuvered close to the jet, maintaining a rigid spatial relationship, mirroring the F-22's rolls and dives. This suggests the technology behind these objects can precisely track the F-22. The account is reminiscent of Foo Fighters from World War II. One theory suggests these orbs are a natural phenomenon, possibly a new plasma or ball lightning. Another incident involved an orange orb observed from a navy aircraft carrier. The sphere descended from high altitude to 100-200 yards above the flight deck, emitting a soft orange-red light without illuminating the surroundings. The UAP's surface was dynamic, like the surface of the sun.

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If nonhuman intelligence is so advanced and potentially malevolent, why haven't they destroyed us? It seems a fragile detente may exist. Grush has documented agreements that could jeopardize our future, hinting at pacts between the U.S. and nonhuman intelligences. Have such agreements been made? This is crucial information that national leadership should investigate. Are there indeed agreements between nonhuman intelligences and the American government? That's a question that needs thorough exploration as well.

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Speaker 0 (anonymous whistleblower): Government seems to be involved. They’re definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. We’ve recovered the vehicles and have physical proof. I was partially cleared into those activities and had access to the data, reading intelligence reports resulting from those programs. Speaker 1: And with your own eyes you’ve seen it. So when people say this is kooky, there’s nothing to back it up… Speaker 2 (NASA): NASA is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mister David Crush said, or is he lying? Whatever he said, where’s the evidence? Speaker 1: What do you say? Speaker 0: Members of this administration are very aware of this reality; the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership. I think he’s assembled a cabinet, and I believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3: I have access and have spoken to people about it. I’ve had meetings with very smart, solid people who believe there is something out there. It makes sense there could be, but I’ve never been convinced, despite that. It’s not my thing. Speaker 1: So you think, one, he knows, and two, he’s open to transparency on UAPs? He’s very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don’t want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal. There’s been a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 0: I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration. I had to seek legal protection because I was fearful professionally and personally. Speaker 1: And when you mention recovering pilots or remains nonhuman, that’s something you saw in the intelligence with your eyes? Speaker 0: Yes. There were pictures. It’s uncomfortable to discuss because it’s outside a normal worldview to understand there is a biological sentience that piloted these crafts and does not necessarily look 100% like us. Speaker 1: Were there pictures? Speaker 0: There were. Speaker 1: When I said from another planet or outer space, you said you don’t know where they’re from. Is it interdimensional? What are we talking about? Speaker 0: I’ve talked to a lot of graybeards about the origin. I leave an open mind. There is an extraterrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I didn’t see that data. I’m not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government had. I’m not aware of any remains the department has of extraterrestrial beings or technology. Speaker 1: Do other governments know? Do they have programs? Speaker 0: They have their own programs. Two and a half years ago we’ve been in an arms race with peer competitors—Russia and China—and they have their own programs. I viewed a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. Speaker 1: We’ve recovered things—bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense of their motive or whether it’s peaceful or not? We’ve seen a mixed bag of motives. Speaker 0: Activity and motive vary; the reasons for visiting are not fully understood. Could it be because we have interesting genetic material on Earth and we’re a Jurassic Park tourist attraction? There could be a myriad of reasons. Speaker 1: For other people coming forward, what do you say about intimidation? There are reports of harassment. There’s hope. Congress values whistleblower information now, and there’s appetite to do the right thing. There are things happening behind the scenes that the administration may discuss when ready. Speaker 1: We’ll follow every element. It’s fascinating. Speaker 0: Thanks for having me. Speaker 4: Sean Hannity here. Subscribe to Fox News YouTube pay.

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The Pentagon has acknowledged a program to study UFOs that extends into the current century. The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was designed to identify anomalous aircraft and determine if they pose a threat to national security. According to one individual, the program found a lot and identified very interesting anomalous aircraft. There is compelling evidence that we may not be alone.

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Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

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There have been alarming reports from communication centers about intercepted communications from non-human intelligences (NHI) expressing frustration over our aggressive actions against them. Our advanced technologies have reached a level similar to theirs, but the focus on military and corporate gain is causing tension. We are at a critical juncture where we must cease aggressive weapon systems targeting NHI craft and instead pursue peaceful contact. An executive order is needed to halt these actions and promote the use of existing technologies for peaceful purposes. Special Forces are prepared to assist, but they require legal backing from Congress and the President. It's essential for citizens to urge their leaders to enact these necessary changes for a more peaceful approach. A comprehensive briefing document will soon be made available for public review.

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There’s a looming situation involving unidentified flying objects and drones, reminiscent of a chaotic scenario like in "Independence Day." While it seems unlikely, strange occurrences often become reality. Recently, swarms of 20-foot drones have been spotted around military bases, and their ownership and control remain unclear. It’s concerning that the military may not be able to track the signals directing these drones. These drones could potentially be part of a new type of weapon, designed to operate without reporting back until their mission is complete. The uncertainty surrounding these incidents raises significant questions about security and surveillance.

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An Intel source mentioned that a Chinese satellite, visible to the naked eye, went down. Reports indicated it burned up, but this source claimed it was taken down by the US government. This satellite was reportedly a command and control unit for drones. The implication was that the Chinese government was signaling its intentions regarding Taiwan and possibly other actions, suggesting that the US could not intervene.

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There is serious evidence of unidentified objects in the sky, with footage and records showing their unusual movements and trajectories. These objects do not follow easily explainable patterns, prompting ongoing investigations to understand their nature.

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The U.S. government became aware of extraterrestrial presence by July 1947 but chose to keep it secret. In 1952, a significant flyover of Washington, D.C. occurred, prompting responses acknowledging the existence of non-human craft. Over the years, especially during the 1960s, incidents involving UFOs disabling nuclear weapons were reported, but witnesses struggled to testify due to government obstruction. Since 2017, there has been a slow movement toward disclosure, coinciding with an increase in drone sightings. The government is unable to confront these extraterrestrial incursions directly, leading to a situation where they must monitor them with drones. This ongoing pressure may force the government to finally reveal the truth about extraterrestrials, preventing further embarrassment and allowing society to progress beyond the current secrecy.

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UAPs could potentially indicate non-human higher intelligence. While there is strong evidence suggesting this, I genuinely do not know what they are. It’s essential that we investigate further to find out the truth.

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I believe aliens have been present for 75 years, with countless witnesses and interactions, even flying over the White House. They are not visible through telescopes, but their existence is undeniable. I don't think they walk among us, but acknowledging their presence requires an open mind and curiosity.

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In 2017, a New York Times story exposed a secret government UFO program, leading to congressional inquiries. Instruments report unexplained flight characteristics. Acknowledging UAPs is a recent development. One speaker stated that, based on interviews, the government possesses UAPs and that sources claim crash retrievals have occurred, including nonhuman biologics. Another speaker stated that the American people are being lied to. Nonhuman intelligence exists and has interacted with humanity. The Pentagon and CIA will have to respond. One speaker has feared for their life. When asked about verifying the US government's possession of spaceships of nonhuman intelligence, one speaker stated they would go to jail to reveal what they know.

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Luis "Lue" Elizondo - X-15 Rocket Plane, UFO Cover-Ups & a Mind-Blowing Google Search | SRS #168
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Luis Elizondo, a former U.S. Army Counter Intelligence special agent, discusses his background, including his father's involvement in the Bay of Pigs invasion and the impact of that history on his life. He shares his experiences with paramilitary training as a child and his eventual career in intelligence, where he led the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) investigating unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). Elizondo clarifies that while AATIP was sensitive, it was not covert. The program evolved from the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Special Application Program (ASAP), initiated in 2007 with bipartisan support from senators, including Harry Reid. AATIP focused on the technical aspects of UAPs, while ASAP had a broader scope. He notes that many members of Congress have had their own UAP experiences but are hesitant to discuss them publicly. He mentions Skinwalker Ranch, where significant research was conducted under Bob Bigelow, who funded various investigations into UAPs. Elizondo acknowledges the strange occurrences reported at the ranch and the need for further investigation. He emphasizes the importance of transparency regarding UAPs, arguing that the public deserves to know about the existence of these phenomena, which have been investigated for decades. Elizondo addresses the implications of UAPs for national security, particularly their interference with nuclear capabilities. He recounts incidents where UAPs reportedly disabled nuclear silos, raising concerns about their origins and intentions. He stresses that the government has been aware of UAPs for a long time and that the lack of transparency erodes public trust. He discusses the potential for foreign adversaries, like Russia and China, to possess advanced technologies, and the implications of this for U.S. security. Elizondo advocates for a shift in how the government communicates about UAPs, suggesting that the public is more prepared to handle the truth than previously thought. Elizondo also touches on the evolution of societal perceptions regarding UAPs and the importance of understanding consciousness in relation to these phenomena. He believes that the conversation around UAPs is changing and that younger generations are more open to exploring these topics without stigma. In conclusion, Elizondo calls for continued dialogue and transparency about UAPs, emphasizing the need for a constructive approach that respects national security while informing the public. He believes that the ongoing investigation into UAPs could lead to significant paradigm shifts in understanding humanity's place in the universe.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves
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Jamie Vernon: Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. Ryan Graves: The Joe Rogan experience. Joe Rogan: Good to see you again. What's the latest with you, Ryan? Besides the baby news, of course. Ryan Graves: Thanks! I wanted to discuss the drone situation. It's concerning, and there are many narratives, some quite alarming. The scariest rumor is that drones are searching for gamma radiation due to a missing nuclear weapon. Ryan Graves: I've interacted with various government organizations, including those focused on weapons of mass destruction. They assured me there is no loose nuke or imminent threat, which gives me confidence that this isn't a response to a weapons of mass destruction threat. Joe Rogan: How do they convince you? Just by saying so? Ryan Graves: Essentially, they are the ones actively working on it. If there were a threat, they would be working around the clock to resolve it. Joe Rogan: I heard it might be a missing nuke from Ukraine. Could drones detect gamma radiation? Ryan Graves: Teams typically respond to such emergencies, but using hundreds of drones isn't standard. Gamma radiation is well-shielded, making it hard to detect from high altitudes. Ground teams are more effective for this. Joe Rogan: That eases my mind. Social media spreads so many narratives. Ryan Graves: Exactly. This drone activity has been ongoing for at least two years, particularly around military bases like Langley Air Force Base, where there were incursions last year. This year, the activity has expanded significantly. Joe Rogan: Why can't they track these drones? Ryan Graves: It's a complex issue. The objects seem to be coming from over the ocean, and various agencies are aware of them. They are detected through radar and optical systems but are flying very low and sometimes in groups. Joe Rogan: That's strange. How many sightings are we talking about? Ryan Graves: I estimate over 800 or 1,000. The sightings are not just a few isolated incidents; they are widespread. Joe Rogan: Are they exhibiting extraordinary movements? Ryan Graves: Some are making sharp turns, indicating significant power supply, but we don't have technology that can evade detection completely. Joe Rogan: Have any been shot down? Ryan Graves: There are rumors, but no confirmed incidents. People are taking matters into their own hands, which is concerning. Jamie Vernon: There was a plane crash mistaken for a drone incident. Ryan Graves: Yes, that was a small plane crash. The misinformation is rampant, especially on social media. Joe Rogan: Elon Musk seems to be quiet about this topic. Ryan Graves: He has interests in space and technology, which may limit what he can say. Joe Rogan: The prevalence of these drones is unsettling. Why haven't they been dealt with? Ryan Graves: There are outdated laws regarding airspace and privacy that complicate responses. Base commanders have limited authority to act without higher approval. Joe Rogan: Have there been any incidents of drones being shot down? Jamie Vernon: New Jersey lawmakers recently asked if they could shoot one down for inspection. Ryan Graves: There are reports of missing radioactive material, which could be related. Joe Rogan: What’s your background? Ryan Graves: I'm a trained aerospace engineer and a former Navy pilot who flew the F-18 Super Hornet. I became involved in UAP discussions after encountering unexplained objects during my service. Joe Rogan: What did you see? Ryan Graves: We consistently detected objects with advanced capabilities that we couldn't visually identify. This led to safety concerns and reports being filed. Joe Rogan: What about the Gimbal and GoFast videos? Ryan Graves: Those were recorded during training exercises and showed objects exhibiting unusual flight patterns. Joe Rogan: What do you think about the government’s response to these sightings? Ryan Graves: There needs to be a public, unclassified investigation into UAPs, involving various government agencies and scientific communities. Joe Rogan: What would it take for full disclosure? Ryan Graves: Stronger whistleblower protections and a commitment from the government to share information with the public. Joe Rogan: If it turns out these are our technologies, what then? Ryan Graves: We need to be transparent about our capabilities and ensure we stay ahead of adversaries. Joe Rogan: What if it’s not our technology? Ryan Graves: That raises even more questions about the nature of these objects and their origin. Joe Rogan: What do you think the future holds for this conversation? Ryan Graves: The momentum is building, and with the right leadership, we can advance our understanding of UAPs and their implications for humanity. Joe Rogan: Thanks for sharing your insights, Ryan. Ryan Graves: Thank you, Joe.
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