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Speaker 1 discusses Christopher Krebs, former head of CISA, claiming: Krebs weaponized his position against free speech in the election context and in the context of the COVID-19 presidential memorandum, and that he might have instructed the Department of Justice and other parts of government to investigate what Krebs participated in while head of CISA. Speaker 1 asserts they did not know Krebs personally, but that he came out right after the election, which was a “rigged election, badly rigged election.” He claims the country’s outcomes included open borders and millions entering the country, and asserts that “Russia and Ukraine, that would have never happened,” and that “October 7 would have never happened,” followed by the Afghanistan withdrawal with “13 dead, but so many killed, actually. I mean, so many so many killed outside of the 13 soldiers, hundreds of people killed.” He says, “and maybe, I don’t know, never,” but mentions it, that Krebs was saying the election was great, adding that “it’s been proven that it was not only not great.” He cites lawyers and law firms signing on, “giving us hundreds of millions of dollars,” and claims the election was proven by legislatures not approving, and other forms from “the all of the different, scamming operations,” describing it as a very corrupt election in which COVID was used to cheat. Speaker 1 contends Krebs claimed, “we’ve proved this is the most secure election in the history of our country,” describing the result as a disaster. He insists they should adopt “paper ballots, same day voting, voter ID,” and proposes adding a certificate showing citizenship before voting—“a citizen piece of paper that says you’re a citizen before you can vote.” He reiterates support for voter ID, paper ballots, and same-day voting. He describes events: if you don’t have same-day voting, they change the air, move boxes, and then don’t bring the boxes back, implying a lack of safety in elections. He asserts that elections must have borders and, ideally, a free press, which he claims we do not have, calling the press dishonest. Speaker 1 concludes that Krebs is a “fraud” and a “disgrace,” and says, “We’ll find out whether or not he was right,” promising that Krebs “has a big price to pay” if the election wasn’t safe, labeling Krebs as “a bad guy.” He also states he has no idea who Krebs is, though acknowledges Krebs “was in the room at some point,” and ends by noting that the last two points are important for the country.

Speaker 0: I know a little about human trafficking. The human trafficking portfolio fell underneath me in the counterterrorism shop where I was ahead. I worked with Tim Ballard at the White House to stamp out human and child sex trafficking. He was doing incredible work back then. Speaker 1: I'm the bad guy in the story. Last week, I got a call from some of the accusers, and what they're accusing him of is really not just—they're just really bad stuff. Really, really bad things. At first, because I've been friends with Tim for so long, I thought, that's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Blew by them. Ridiculous. Until they persisted, and I started hearing more. I just heard somebody had filed in the HR complaints or something. Like, that's not possible. Well, the more the complaints come out, the worse it gets. These women called last week, and they wanted to do a show with me. That's not something I've even offered Tim. And I don't want to be the one making the calls on this. I'm not a journalist, and I'm also involved. Tim has been a friend of mine. OUR is a great organization, but I also stand up for victims. And I don't feel remaining silent on this or neutral if I know is acceptable. I don't know what they've done, but I've passed the women's number onto Leon Wolf, our news director, and said, put a journalist on this if you want. And I told him at the time, take it where it leads. I just want the truth. I just want the truth. So he put our best investigative reporter on it, and I heard last night that they are close to finishing the story. I was hoping that it was gonna be released today because this is yeah. If if if if it's true, I can't believe how many of us were duped. Speaker 2: Got pearlized. But it's still some guy who got fried and cried by the side. We gonna steal, slide, slide, slide until they all die. These niggas ain't seeing me because these niggas be small fry. I got big dude status, k l

Speaker 0 says, "And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night." He adds, "No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth. That's it." He alleges that "about forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi, that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright" and that he "refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors." He challenges TPUSA to answer: "Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself?" He asks for "'the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend'" and whether there were LLCs paying Rob McCoy. He asserts, "Charlie did not die pro Israel. He did not die for Israel," noting that "Friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly." He vows to expose lies and ends, "Somewhere, Charlie is watching."

- A tweet claims that Leslie Wexner financed the mass rape and trafficking of thousands of American children for over a decade, and that he is currently in a 26,000 square foot mansion in New Albany, Ohio, thinking that he is above the law. The tweet is dated 04/28/2020. - Speaker 0 notes how crazy that tweet is and highlights it as a reminder. - The conversation then shifts to praise for a female conspiracy figure, described as “the most prolific of all the conspiracy,” “the most well read,” “the one with the most recall,” and “the most quoted.” They express admiration for how she is able to find information and stay ahead of topics. - They mention they are trying to get her on, and wonder how she is so good, what her background is, and how she finds all this information, noting that she’s always way ahead of everything. - The speakers reiterate that 2020 was crazy and that she was “fucking way ahead of everything,” calling it crazy.

Speaker 0 delivers a rapid-fire set of bragging lines about wealth, fashion, and success: “Go see my eyes red on my demons,” “My postie racks up just to motivate my niggas,” “Rappers need a stylist bad, but I ain't use a stylist yet,” “I signed a million dollar contracts in my box to steal a text,” “Wake up, check my bank account, phone numbers in there, bitch. I'm blessed,” and references to private jets, being fresh off the press, sipping drinks with lines, a tinted eye, a moving piece, and owning a new bulletproof Cadillac. He notes money, private flights, and the ability to charge for Instagram content, while cutting off a girl who didn’t pick up. The tone centers on opulent lifestyle, independence, and status. Speaker 1 shifts to a hostile, accusatory monologue: “All over the place, guys. Jack Kosoviak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer.” He claims Gabe Hoffman “is running humps on people” and calls him a “bad guy.” He says he looks like he’s seen a ghost and that someone close to him was there to infiltrate him, describing these people as “really fucking bad” and stating they are “evil,” including claims of them being “unregistered foreign agents.” He asserts he will be watching everything they do and declares ongoing surveillance and vigilance: “I will be watching. Everything you do, I’m gonna be watching.” Speaker 2 notes a logistical detail: “Hell yeah. On my way back to the site to get my burner phone so I can use my ghost accounts…” indicating plans to obtain a burner phone for anonymous or modified online activity. Speaker 3 adds a blunt, explicit line about using “ghost accounts” for actions, saying, “can use my ghost accounts to fuck,” reinforcing the theme of covert or deceptive online activity. Overall, the transcript juxtaposes an ostentatious wealth/aspirational rap persona (Speaker 0) with a conspiratorial, accusatory stance toward specific public figures (Speaker 1), and mentions of circumventing scrutiny or anonymity online (Speaker 2 and Speaker 3). The named individuals identified by Speaker 1 are Jack Kosoviak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, and Laura Loomer.

Speaker 0 claims to have recordings and documents exposing malfeasance within a nonprofit, alleging board members took money from donors and used children to further an agenda. Speaker 1 denies knowledge and deflects, objecting to questions about investments in companies, some potentially in the medical field and possibly sold to big pharma like Pfizer. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of conflicts of interest. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being a cheat and a liar. Speaker 0 vows to get justice, not revenge. The timing of events is deemed suspicious, and a board statement is considered a critical turning point.

Speaker accuses Oprah Winfrey of ignoring the suffering of women and children. They claim that Oprah was involved in recruiting women for Harvey Weinstein and accuse her of being involved in child trafficking and handling minors. The speaker believes that with Oprah's connections, wealth, and influence, it is impossible for her to be unaware of these activities. They mention Rose McGowan's statement that Oprah was involved in the Weinstein case. The speaker concludes by saying that we live in a small world and implies that the truth will eventually come out.

The speaker claims that if videos existed of someone committing felonies on an island, the public would have seen them. They assert that there are tens of thousands of videos of Jeffrey Epstein with children or child pornography and hundreds of victims. They state that no victim will ever get released due to the volume of evidence. The speaker concludes that the FBI is diligently processing this evidence.

The speaker discusses reactions to Candace’s incident reports and what Candace allegedly said, including Fort Huachuca confirmation and that Mitch Snow, Michael, and Harry were there. They plan to show what Candace actually said, noting it seemed like a subliminal address while a larger group tries to debunk her. They also mention George Webb and that many have told them to check his work, though they’re unsure. They summarize Valhalla VFT’s position: if by Friday Mitch returns all the money to Candace and Candace donates it to Mitch’s victims, the situation could move forward positively; otherwise, they will go “scorched earth” on Friday and reveal everything about the man. The speaker expresses discomfort with a pattern they’ve observed: three people—Valhalla VFT, Balak’s Tones, and George Webb—initially express support for Candace and claim they want her to reach out, but then publicly attack or debunk her. They note that all three claimed to care about Candace, and then shifted to public attacks after alleged private communication. George Webb is described as briefly protective, then chastising Candace in posts; Balak’s Tones is said to have given Candace an ultimatum (twenty-four hours) to shut down the GoFundMe and redirect funds to “victims,” followed by a series of videos and attacks. Valhalla is described as shifting from supportive to attacking as well, creating an odd pattern. The speaker outlines personal experiences with these figures: George Webb did not answer a question about how a clip connecting to Fort Huachuca related to his claims, and has a tendency to block on social media; Valhalla is accused of reframing and proclaiming the story “done” while moving toward public attacks. Balak’s Tones is accused of issuing ultimatums and then attacking Candace if her response did not align with his demands. The speaker argues that if these individuals genuinely cared about Candace, they would press for the questions she must answer. They examined Valhalla’s claims about building numbers, foyer requests, and license plates: one building number checks out, the other’s existence is unclear; the foyer request answer is reportedly not verifiable by Candace’s team alone, though she has people who could obtain it; the California license plate claim “checks out.” The overall tension centers on the ultimatum to shut down the GoFundMe by Friday and the shifting portrayal of Candace’s story by these three figures. The speaker concludes by noting Valhalla’s deep emotional stance against toxic spousal situations may influence his views, suggesting his past conversations with witnesses and victims inform his strong stance, which, in the speaker’s view, colors his approach and may contribute to the public attacks. They acknowledge liking Valhalla and recognizing the no-tolerance stance, but feel it clouds judgment and pushes toward attacking Candace.

Speaker 0 discusses emails suggesting Bill Gates had additional affairs, tried to obtain medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection, and planned to give the medicine without the recipient knowing; his representative says all of this is false. It is not on you to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. The question posed is about the speaker’s dominant emotion when reading these news articles with these details. Speaker 1 answers: Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I’m able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my god, how did they, how did that happen to those girls, right? And so for me, it’s just sadness. Sadness for, you know, I’ve left, I had to, I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I had to leave the, I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it’s just sad. That’s the truth. Right? And it’s kind of like, at least for me, I’ve been able to move on in life.

Speaker 0 accuses the group of being pedophiles for not caring about child sexual abuse, claiming they “probably enjoy child porn” and are not looking. They ask Monica: “You’re not a pedophile? Then why aren’t you doing anything about the child abuse that's happening in the county?” They assert, “If you cared, you'd want to stop it,” and imply they would act if it happened to one of their own children or grandchildren, asking, “What if it happens to your grandchild? Would it matter then?” The speaker concludes by demanding action and states, “Next speaker, please.”

Gavin Newsom and his wife allegedly called up the FireAce organization, which they are calling a "$100,000,000 money launder scam." They allegedly instructed FireAce to delete information from their website after Spencer posted a screen recording on TikTok. The speaker claims this was done to conceal that they supposedly took fire victim money for their "little made up nonprofit." The speaker states that the information has been removed from the website since yesterday.

Speaker 0 presents a Nehemiah analogy: he builds a wall while the townspeople shout at him to come down, and he repeated, “I cannot come down. I am busy building.” She says she feels the same: no time to address the noise, and their silence does not mean complacency. She asserts that Turning Point USA and the handpicked staff loved by her husband are not involved in the alleged conspiracy, and they are busy building. She emphasizes that grieving in their own way, they are trying hard to find answers after something evil happened. Any lead is sent to authorities, with calls to dig into it and not leave any rock unturned, aiming for justice for her husband, herself, and her family more than anyone else. Her breaking point comes when others come after them: “Come after me. Call me names. I don’t care. Call me what you want.” She will not tolerate targeting of her family, Turning Point USA family, or the Charlie Kirk show family, especially when people profit from attacking those she loves. She declares righteous anger, saying this is not okay, a mind virus, and that she believes in the judicial system. She notes their team is working hard, and she apologizes for any language, insisting it’s not okay. Speaker 1 remarks that they have never seen her like this, to which Speaker 0 responds that her reaction is righteous anger. She stresses that their team is human, not machines, and has faced more death threats and kidnapping threats than ever before. The team is exhausted; every time the threats are brought up, they must relive trauma from the day her husband was murdered. She acknowledges that her team is rocked to the core and must endure ongoing public scrutiny and conspiracies. She questions whether the online hostility has intensified because she shines a light on issues, asking what people expected from her. They note that some target her accessories, normalizing an atmosphere of personal attacks. She quips about a “conspiracy collection,” suggesting that those who want to pick her apart can do so—this had been happening even before her husband’s murder. Speaker 0 concludes that the abuse was occurring prior to Charlie’s murder, and both she and her partner have endured persistent, harrowing criticism and threats for years.

Speaker 0 describes Candace Owens with highly inflammatory language, calling her an evil scumbag and a degenerate cunt. He accuses her of burning everything down and gloating while she does it, and claims she has security, though not the same level as others. He asserts that she lies about security and that her actions harm others, while conservatives who criticize her lack “balls” to call her out. He acknowledges that others have begun messaging him in support of criticizing Owens, but he dismisses credit for any such actions he didn’t claim. Speaker 0 asserts that Owens is hypocritical and hypocritically claims she loves Charlie Kirk while allegedly destroying what he built. He states he has bullets fired at his property and has to live in the middle of nowhere, with strangers approaching his Maryland home and residents being beaten when attempting to live there. He contends that Owens does not live the way she portrays, and that she is “burning everything down” and is evil. He claims the conservative movement is fractured and suggests Republicans are on track to lose the midterms, asserting that they were trending in a different direction until Charlie Kirk was murdered, calling it “the most effective political assassination in history.” Speaker 0 further asserts that Owens has turned Turning Point into “the perpetrators of the crime that was against them” and says he is not paid by any of these groups, has no special ties to Turning Point USA, and was not invited to their event. He contends that he does not want to participate with them and feels that conservative media are cowardly for not standing up to Owens. He mentions Megyn Kelly, appreciating her kind words but calling the situation pathetic bullshit. He emphasizes that no one is paying him, there is no Russia or Israel involvement, and he is simply risking his life by speaking out. Speaker 0 reiterates his frustration at Owens being placed in a thumbnail on her piece and calls her a “fucking cunt.” He insists that Owens benefited from the situation, and that she “killed Charlie” with her actions, claiming, “No one benefited more than her.” The exchange includes Speaker 1 confirming disbelief that Owens included him in the thumbnail and echoing the sentiment that she didn’t fly or act consistently with her claimed security.

Speaker 0 claims to have recordings and documents exposing malfeasance within a nonprofit, alleging board members took money from donors and used children to further an agenda. Speaker 1 denies knowledge and deflects, objecting to questions about investments in companies, some potentially in the medical field and possibly sold to big pharma like Pfizer. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of conflicts of interest. Tensions escalate with personal attacks, Speaker 0 calling Speaker 1 a cheat and liar, while Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being a cheat and liar. Speaker 0 vows to get justice, not revenge. The discussion revolves around investments, potential conflicts of interest, and a broken story within the organization.

The speaker states they cared about the server, the network, and their family first, including their partner, Shay. The speaker accuses someone of staying up all night to slander them and acting like a psychopath while pretending to be a traditional wife and mother. The speaker claims this person was going after their girlfriend, who hates them. The speaker then says they will show viewers that they still have their Twitter account when the video was made.

The speaker addresses questions about their testimony regarding John, particularly concerning victimhood and police reports. They explain they testified only when asked by John's former associates. The speaker agrees their testimony alone isn't enough to convict John, but claims there's corroborating evidence from siblings, an ex-spouse, detransitioners, and online articles detailing past incidents. The speaker alleges John hasn't credibly refuted the evidence, instead resorting to personal attacks and generalizations. They claim many people, some anonymously due to fear, have similar experiences with John. The speaker highlights email evidence where John seemingly incriminates himself. They accuse John of lying about his credentials, including his work with sex offenders, and concealing his divorce and criminal charges. The speaker argues police reports aren't the sole determinant of a legitimate case, as abusers may file preemptive reports or victims may be unable or unwilling to file due to fear, lack of support, or the statute of limitations. They criticize John's behavior as mirroring abusive safeguarders seeking to exploit vulnerable individuals. The speaker believes John is being exposed because he preaches a false gospel and is spiritually abusive.

The speaker expresses support for victims of a "political TikToker" she has criticized for over a year. She claims nobody initially believed her about his "disgusting behavior," and she fears he will ascend into the political hierarchy despite allegations against him. Having known him since she was 18, she asserts any apology from him would be insincere and gaslighting. She describes him as "sick," "perverted," and someone who has evaded consequences for too long. She is glad the issue is gaining traction, agreeing with another woman's assessment that his advocacy for women is a ploy. She states she could write a "novel" about his actions, but some incidents she cannot discuss due to legal reasons. She thanks the woman who came forward, stating it renewed her strength to speak out. She reiterates her support for other victims.

Speaker 0 accuses the man of lying, noting he claims he only ever met him once while they had lived next to him for twenty-some years. Speaker 1 explains that, with his wife present, they apologized, left, and decided they will never be in the room with that disgusting person again—social, business, or philanthropy—because that guy was there. Speaker 0 adds that it’s a disgrace how this guy has a job today, calling him a proven liar advising the president of the United States every day, and says they’re done with these people.

Speaker 0 notes that the people are not accusing him of rape or selling anyone; they are facing charges including human trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit. Speaker 1 describes OnlyFans as “the best hustle in the world.” He explains the alleged methods: using the “lover boy method,” coercing by being nice, and not mentioning webcam until after sex. He says mentioning webcam on dates “just doesn’t work” and claims he would never do that, arguing the technique is to proceed normally and introduce webcam later. Speaker 2 and Speaker 3 discuss a program called PhD on corporatetake.com: “PhD is a pimp and hose degree.” He claims it teaches how he met girls, how he got girls to like him, how he got girls to fall in love with him to work on webcam, and how to have them spend more time with him. He describes inviting a prospective recruit to a meeting and bringing a girl who works for “Your bottom bitch” to explain the selling. The process emphasizes a “first girl” as pivotal, with girls on camera together the first day so the new girl can observe and imitate. Speaker 4 recounts specific experiences: being bought wine and becoming nervous about webcam work; the narrator describes wealth from webcam operations and retaining girls; he mentions four locations and 75 girls, with roughly half of the money going to the workers, claiming a 50% split and suggesting taxes explain the disparity. Another worker, paid a flat £15 per hour, notes large sums from clients who believed they would meet the girl. Speaker 1 describes a pattern where men fell in love with his models and sent large amounts of money, including people selling houses and life savings. He states: “I used sex as a tool to make women love me so they'd obey me and live in my house to make me money. That’s what I wanted. So I was a pimp in that sense.” He discusses the emotional manipulation that led clients to believe they would meet the girl. Speaker 5 remains skeptical, labeling the operation “pimpy.” Speaker 1 argues about the Me Too era, saying he is not a rapist in a way that would be labeled, yet he admits he likes the freedom to do what he wants. Speaker 6 challenges Speaker 1 by quoting his own statements: that his job was to meet a girl, sleep with her, get her to fall in love, and then get her on webcam to become rich together. Speaker 1 denies that exact quote, but Speaker 6 insists it matches what was said on the website. Speaker 0 reiterates that the belief is he was charged with human trafficking, and Speaker 1 clarifies that “human trafficking” is framed as forcing a girl to work for financial gain, noting TikTok accounts from some girls as part of the justification. He reiterates the PhD as a pimp and hose degree he claims to be pleasant about.

The conversation threads through a tangled set of relationships and alleged secrets surrounding Erika and her past marriages. Speaker 0 introduces Erika’s first husband, Derek Chelsvigg, and notes a young daughter from Erika’s earlier marriage, questioning why this history is hidden and suggesting possible trafficking concerns. They mention an apparent photoshoot with Erika’s ex-husband and speculate about whether Erika had another daughter, while observing that information about her past is being scrubbed online. The speakers reference Erika’s old Instagram and her ex-husband’s social media remaining private, implying secrecy around Erika’s past. They wonder if Erika is a time traveler and recall a past shoot with someone named Tyler, asking whether he was murdered or disappeared. They mention Cabot Phillips dating Erika after the marriage, and a timeline: seven days after that marriage, Cabot Phillips is seen playing ball with someone named Charlie. They propose theories that Erika could have harmed Charlie or that Charlie simply disappeared, and note that an ex-boyfriend may have reappeared in the scene. The possibility is raised that Erika is a honeypot moving between relationships, with “stepping stones” in her life. Speaker 0 also reveals that Erika has a sister, and asks where she is. Speaker 2 introduces a whistleblower: an insider who warns that exposing the truth would provoke retaliation against him and anyone who helps him. This person found emails, approvals, and signatures tying Erika’s wife’s charity work to the same network, and says he didn’t yell or accuse but went quiet, believing that if Erika is part of the network, everything has been a lie. For him, the matter shifted from politics to a personal crisis, and he says that if he stays quiet, he’s “one of them”; if he speaks, he’s dead, but people deserve to know. Speaker 0 asserts that Charlie discovered information about Erika and discussed filing for divorce two days before Charlie’s disappearance; there has still been no autopsy released, and Erika is the only person who could release it, labeled as “Sussy.” Speaker 1 announces a situation that is “absolutely out of control,” criticizing incompetent politicians and referencing a presidential figure, then broadens to state-level politics with John McCain mentioned. The speaker complains about campaign contributions, special interests, and lobbyists, and predicts political turnover. They vow to “make this country so great again” and describe an event where, according to the speaker, reporters who were crying were present—hard, better reporters who were once known to the speaker as not good people. The exchange ends with a more casual check-in: “How you doing back there?”

The speaker names Jack Pisobiak, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, and Laura Loomer, accusing Gabe Hoffman of “running ops on people” and calling him “a bad guy.” The speaker says they “look like I’ve seen a ghost” and describes someone very close to them as having likely been there to infiltrate them. They warn that “these are really fucking bad people,” expressing that they are “beyond pissed” and unable to fully describe the internal feeling. The speaker repeats that “these people are bad” and asserts that they “tried to set someone up that you know and love.” The individuals are labeled as “evil,” and the speaker concludes by claiming they are “unregistered foreign agents.”

The speaker claims that if videos existed of someone committing felonies on an island, they would be released. They assert that there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography and hundreds of victims. The speaker states that no victim information will be released due to the volume of evidence. They claim the FBI is diligently going through this evidence.

The speaker references Brock Pierce, described as an Epstein client and alleged child abuser and as a cofounder of Tethr, and asks, “Who is friends with Epstein client and alleged child abuser, Tethr cofounder Brock Pierce.” They then say, “I don't know shit about Brock's history, and I've never met him. I don't know if he's an Epstein client. I don't know anything about these allegations, and I don't really care at this point because it doesn't affect my life at all.”

Speaker 0 Launches a pointed accusation, asking, “I am wondering if you are all pedophiles because you don't seem to care that children are being sexually abused.” They claim, “the only thing I could ascertain is that you guys probably enjoy child porn,” asserting that the group is not looking or acting. The speaker states, “If somebody claimed that I was, I would say, I absolutely am not,” and contends the group “love to let it stand as fact that that's what's going on because you're not willing to stop it.” They challenge the group to shake their heads or do something, insisting, “No, Monica, you're not a pedophile. Then why aren't you doing anything about the child abuse that's happening in the county?” The speaker frames care as a moral test: “If you cared, you'd wanna stop it.” They extend the question to personal stakes: “If it happened to your child, you'd wanna stop it. If it happened to you, you'd wanna stop it.” They address Jim directly with, “Jim, what if it happens to your grandchild? What if? Would it matter then? Probably.” The rhetoric emphasizes the emotional intent and accountability, culminating in a confrontational appeal to action and responsibility. After laying out these accusations and moral appeals, the speaker concludes with a directive to move on: “Right. So horrible to think about. Right. Next speaker, please.” The overall thrust is a confrontational challenge to the audience’s alleged indifference toward child sexual abuse, combining provocative accusations with appeals to parental and familial protection. The speaker characterizes inaction as complicity and demands immediate accountability from named individuals, linking the issue to personal stakes for family members. The passage ends by transitioning to the next speaker, signaling a shift in focus or continuation of the public forum.