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The speaker recounts the depth of the evil involved in Jeffrey Epstein’s network as described by survivors during a press conference. They explain that 14-year-old girls were told by a high school friend to come to an old man’s house, give him a massage, and he would pay $200, with a swimming pool and other enticements presented. The massage would escalate to sexual acts, and Epstein would keep their phone numbers. Through the shame and coercion, the girls were compelled to show up at his beck and call whenever he wanted. The only way they could get out of performing sexual favors was to find another girl at their high school who would take their place. One survivor broke down in tears as she admitted that she faced a choice between finding a replacement girl or returning to perform the acts, and she chose to find another girl. The speaker notes that even after it was known that these were 15-year-old girls coerced by an adult man, people still said they were sex traffickers and trafficked these women. The speaker emphasizes the realization of how evil it is for someone to make others commit evil acts and then implicate them, which made it harder for the survivors to come forward. There is discussion of why the names of the victims aren’t released. Epstein’s abuse involved billionaires who could pay off authorities and judges. After girls reached the age of consent, Epstein would traffic them to his friends, arguing that some were prostitutes who were 18 or older and thus consenting. The speaker explains that when these men had money, they could pay off police departments, cause reports to disappear, or influence judges. Many of the girls came from less affluent families, and the money paid to the families ranged from $150,000 up to $500,000, while the girl often would not testify. The men would then use defamation lawsuits to bankrupt the survivors who spoke out or tried to contest their false allegations. The process itself functions as punishment, with survivors forced to go broke just to defend their names.

A report reveals that police forces failed to act on abuse allegations against TV presenter Jimmy Savile for almost 50 years. West Yorkshire Police received a letter from the Metropolitan Police 15 years ago suggesting Savile was a pedophile, but it was never followed up. Despite living in Leeds, the police had no intelligence reports on him. The report examines whether Savile's celebrity status shielded him from arrest or prosecution, but concludes there is no evidence of special protection. Savile has been accused of 76 crimes in West Yorkshire, including rape, sexual assault, and indecent exposure. A former police inspector is being investigated for intervening on Savile's behalf during a sexual abuse investigation.

The UK is uncovering vast pedophile networks that operated between the 1970s and 1990s, involving over 1,400 men, including 261 high-profile individuals. The country is questioning why it turned a blind eye to such widespread scandals. The numbers are staggering, with over 100,000 children believed to have been abused. One victim, Nick, testified that his father regularly abused him and delivered him as a sex slave to a group of politicians, affecting 15 to 20 other boys. More cases are emerging, with 1,433 suspects reported to the police. Among them, 216 have died, but there are still 76 politicians, 43 individuals from the music industry, 135 from television, radio, or film, and 7 from the sports world. This scandal follows the Jimmy Saville case, where a BBC presenter was revealed to have abused hundreds of children without consequences.

Prince Charles's circle of friends includes Jimmy Savile, a DJ and entertainer who was later revealed to have sexually abused over 450 victims, including women, children, hospital patients, and even dead people. Savile was highly regarded and had close ties to hospitals, with complete access and keys to multiple facilities. Other friends of Savile, like serial killer Peter Scudliff and entertainer Ralph Harris, were also convicted of similar crimes. The media, government, and the crown were aware of these crimes, but investigations were lacking until after the perpetrators were near death. This raises questions about the extent of the elite's criminal activities and who holds power over the royal family.

There are powerful people in the entertainment industry who have harmed both the speaker and Corey. The speaker believes that these individuals are still active in the industry and are pedophiles. When asked about parents who want to involve their children in the business, the speaker advises caution and warns against naivety. They emphasize that the industry is not all positive and highlights the seriousness of the issue. The speaker mentions that Michael Jackson was one person in the industry who did not take advantage of them and was not a pedophile.

I've been waiting for parents of child victims to speak out, but many are embarrassed and reluctant. What frustrates me the most is when I approached the high school principal about police reports regarding these incidents, and she dismissed them as unimportant. It raises the question of when she will be held accountable for her actions and inaction.

Speaker 0 describes a pattern of concealment: 'you know, it's like everything.' 'You know, we we it hides in plain sight.' 'Epstein was hiding in plain sight.' 'We all knew about him.' 'We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was no legal aspect that would go after him.' 'They were afraid of him.' 'For whatever reason, they were afraid of him.' These statements imply that the wrongdoing was known by many, yet no legal action was pursued against Epstein, and fear hindered intervention. These lines convey a sense of collective awareness paired with hesitation to act.

I have information that could reveal a secret life if investigated. I can't reveal my identity, but I want to expose Jimmy Savile. He presents himself as caring, but he is actually a selfish pedophile involved in buggery with children. He believes he's untouchable due to his connections, and others find him amusing. I urge you to take action and expose him. This is not a hoax, and it's the children who suffer if nothing is done.

Epstein operated openly, and while many were aware of his actions, there was no legal action taken against him. Fear of him prevented anyone from pursuing justice.

Gabriel, an eight-year-old boy, described a pattern of abuse connected to his father, teachers, and other adults associated with his school and his family’s extended network. The interview centers on two main settings where the abuse occurred: a swimming pool in East Finchley and a school-related party, plus earlier incidents at home and with other adults. People involved - Gabriel and his family: His mother, known as Mama; his caregiver “Papa Hemp” (an adult referred to as Abraham who is described as Gabriel’s father figure and also as a father to him and his sister); his sister Emmy; his nanny Galina (also called Galina or Galina, Ukrainian/Russian family member who helps with cooking and housekeeping); other relatives such as Gabriel’s grandparents, including a Russian grandmother who lives outside England; a variety of named and unnamed extended family members. - Gabriel’s primary caregivers and household: Mama (the mother who is described as kind and supportive, who cooks, cleans, does juices, and provides money); Papa Hemp (the man Gabriel calls “dad” who does hemp juices and spends money on luxury items for Gabriel); Galina (the nanny, Ukrainian/Russian, who helps with pancakes and household tasks); Emmy (Gabriel’s sister); other adults in the household who are named less consistently. - School staff and associates: Christchurch Primary School in Hampstead where Gabriel says many teachers and staff were connected to his father. He names a number of teachers and staff by first and last names, including: - Miss Wilma (year one teacher, described as a friend of Gabriel’s father and the person who introduced him to other teachers). - Miss Forsyth (Kate Forsyth), the head teacher (Kate is her first name; Forsyth is the surname). - Miss Forsyth’s sister, also a head teacher, named Kate too (Kate Ungwyn or Ungwyn is referenced; the exact surname varies in the transcript). - Mr. Hollings (referred to as “mister Hollings,” the year four teacher who is to become Gabriel’s four-year teacher). - Miss Parsons (referred to as a leader among the teachers who knew Gabriel’s father). - Miss Clover and Miss Reese (assistants/teachers who were described as part of the staff). - Miss Wilma (again, described as a year one teacher who knew Gabriel’s father and who helped connect him with other staff). - Other staff names recur with uncertainty due to the chaotic transcript, but a broad network of teachers and school staff is repeatedly cited as being present during events. - Other adults at the events: Gabriel’s father’s friends, a man named Frank who is described as the McDonald’s manager or staff at the pool, and various parents who are named in relation to the disabled toilets incident. Key locations and settings - East Finchley Swimming Pool: Gabriel describes going there with his father (Papa Hemp) and his sister Emmy when he was about four years old. He recalls a changing room where his father and sister were present, and a disabled toilet where the abuse occurred. The pool complex is described as having a McDonald’s nearby and a McDonald’s inside the pool area itself, plus other facilities and a road and stairs near the pool. - The school and the school party: Gabriel recounts an incident on the last day of school in which a party at Christchurch Primary School involved sexual abuse. He describes a party that took place in the school, connected to a church space and school facilities, with dancing, and with teachers and parents present. He states that all the children attended the party and that many people, including teachers, parents, and his father’s friends, were involved in the abuse. He mentions a head teacher and other staff, including the year four teacher, present at the party. - Home and other settings: In the broader timeline, Gabriel refers to various other episodes including his mother’s explanations about anatomy (private parts, semen, the “white stuff” that comes out when wet or rubbed), and the risk and consequences described by his mother. He also describes exposure to alcohol, both wine and beer, provided by his father in various contexts; use of white powder to sniff; and other substances and behaviors introduced by his father and associates. Major events and claims - A pattern of sexual abuse initiated very early: Gabriel states that his father began abusing him when he was a baby or very young (one year old). He describes ongoing abuse across multiple settings, including at the pool and at home/with family friends. - The swimming pool incident: Gabriel details a recurrent pattern at the East Finchley Swimming Pool. He says his father and his father’s friends would take him and his sister into a large, multi-person disabled toilet, where they would perform sexual acts. He explains that the acts involved touching his private area, forcing him to put or be subjected to plastic Willy devices inserted into his bottom, which would bleed after removal. He says the acts occurred in the changing rooms, toilets, particularly the disabled toilet, and involved adults including his father, teachers, and parents who were there “in the disabled toilet” with him and his sister. He also mentions being taught to engage in sexual acts with other children at the pool and with other adults present. - The “plastic Willy” elements: Gabriel describes multiple “plastic willies” of different colors and sizes—bronze/dark skin color (brown), golden color, and white—for insertion into his bottom, describing the process as painful and bleeding after removal. He notes that the devices are made or bought by his father and his father’s associates; he references a person named Daniel as someone who helps make or procure the plastic toys. He emphasizes different color-coded descriptions for what he calls “brown/bronze,” “gold,” and “white.” - The teaching and social settings: Gabriel describes that his father had many connections with staff at the Christchurch Primary School, including Wilma, Forsyth (Kate), Ungwyn (Kate), Parsons, and others, suggesting that these relationships arranged or enabled the abuse. He states that the staff and parents were present at the pool events and at the school party, and that they engaged in or facilitated sexual activities with him and his sister. He describes that his father and the teachers would direct or coerce the children to participate in sexual activities, including oral sex on adults and other acts described in explicit terms. - The party day and the aftermath: The school party is described as lasting six hours and occurring during regular school hours, with a party atmosphere replacing standard lessons. Gabriel recalls being forced to engage in sexual acts at that party, being hit for crying, being injected with a sleeping injection by a nurse teacher so he would fall asleep, and being forced to participate in acts that included sexual contact with multiple adults, including his father, teachers, and other parents. He describes that his father killed babies and ate meat in a later part of the narrative about the party day, but the central focus is the party itself and the abuse that occurred there. - The “white powder” and alcohol: Gabriel recalls being given white powder to sniff by his father or adults, describing it as a substance that causes dizziness, headaches, and a “drunk” feeling. He describes European and Russian family connections as context for these experiences and mentions a green bottle with white powder in it. He also recounts receiving alcohol (white wine and red wine) from his father and feeling dizzy and headache-prone afterward, receiving tablets to alleviate symptoms. He notes that this happened when he was four years old and that his mother later admonished him not to put the white powder near his sister because it could cause babies to be born with severe problems. - The “seeds” and the white stuff: Gabriel describes the white stuff as being similar to semen in boys and having seeds that can multiply if they are brought into contact with another person or water. He explains that he was told to wash hands after handling the white stuff because the seeds can multiply, possibly causing pregnancy if transferred to another person. He emphasizes that the white substance can cause babies that might be blind, deaf, or otherwise disabled. He says his mother told him about the seeds and that it’s dangerous to expose his sister or others to the white stuff. - The self-harm and aggression: Gabriel recounts fighting with his sister, describing that following some of the episodes he engaged in violent acts toward his sister (hitting her, pulling her hair, etc.). He indicates these behaviors intensified after Abraham (Papa) moved in, and that his mother became very stressed as a consequence. He describes subsequent fear about reporting these events and the fear of retaliation by the adults involved, but then he begins to disclose earlier events. Rules and procedural notes from the interviewer - The interviewer (Steve) explains procedural rules for the interview: he is a police officer, with a partner described as Cleo who is the controller of the interview and a camera operator; there is Bethan from social services taking notes; the interview is structured to elicit truthfulness and precision, with an emphasis on avoiding guessing and on not considering Gabriel in trouble for reporting. - Gabriel is encouraged to use truthful accounts and to express himself with the language he chooses, including swear words, and the interviewer explicitly indicates that he would prefer him to supply the real terms (e.g., explicit sexual terms) to ensure accuracy in the record. - The interviewer confirms factual details like the date (11 September, a Thursday), the participants in the interview, and the structure of the interview. He also provides a mock example to illustrate truth-telling and asks Gabriel to identify lies and truths. - The interviewer clarifies that the purpose of the interview is to gather truthfully reported information about past incidents, including events that occurred at the pool, the school, and within the family network. Emotional and safety context - Gabriel communicates fear, confusion, and distress, especially around events at the pool and school. He alternates between recounting explicit acts and the broader social context of an abusive environment. He references fear of retaliation if the information is disclosed and expresses relief at having the opportunity to speak with an adult about what happened. - The narrative includes multiple references to consent, coercion, and the use of physical force to compel participation in sexual activities, as described by Gabriel. Overall content of claims - Gabriel reports extensive sexual abuse and coercion by his father, teachers, and other adults connected to the school and family circle, including forced sexual acts with both him and his sister. - He describes the use of plastic sexual devices inserted into his bottom, causing bleeding, and the performance of sexual acts in changing rooms and disabled toilets at the East Finchley Swimming Pool, in the presence of his father, teachers, and parents. - He recounts participation in a school party that involved sexual activities with multiple adults and a pattern of violence toward him for crying, as well as medical interventions (injections) to suppress crying. - He reports exposure to alcohol and illegal substances (white powder) given or introduced by his father, as well as instructions given by his mother about the dangers of the substances, including the propagation of seeds that could cause pregnancy and birth defects. - He describes a broader pattern of manipulation and complicity among adults at the school, including various named staff who allegedly knew his father and arranged or facilitated abuse. This summary condenses the key points and claims from Gabriel’s account, preserving the explicit statements and descriptions as provided in the transcript, without interpretation or judgment of the claims’ truthfulness.

Harristers representing the children argued that if the jury hears about satanism, devil worship, and black witchcraft, they won't believe the child's testimony. The NSPCC, which protects children at risk, found evidence of satanic abuse in the UK, supporting previous claims made in the House of Commons. The speaker believes that all satanists were abused as children. The speaker was disturbed and frightened by the horrifying and violent details disclosed by the children. A breakdown in communication occurred in Nottinghamshire, drawing national attention. A former witch revealed that children were sacrificed in a different way, through relationships between the high priest and witches in the coven. These children were never registered and were the ones being sacrificed.

The speaker states they had an interview with Virginia Roberts three years ago, but it was not aired. They were initially told the story was "stupid" because no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. The palace threatened them after finding out about Roberts' allegations regarding Prince Andrew. They feared losing access to interviews with Kate and Will, which further suppressed the story. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. The speaker says Roberts had pictures and was in hiding for twelve years. The speaker claims they convinced her to come out and talk, and that they had information implicating Clinton, among others. They express frustration that the story is only now coming out. They also mention other women backing up Roberts' claims and Brad Edwards' assertion three years ago that Epstein was the most prolific pedophile in the country.

The speaker delivers a stark account of a grave moral failure in British history: for decades, children across the United Kingdom, some as young as four, were groomed, trafficked, raped, beaten, tortured, drugged, impregnated, criminalized, murdered, and psychologically destroyed by organized groups. These were not isolated incidents or expressions of sexual gratification; they were sustained campaigns of exploitation against terrified, vulnerable children who were systematically trapped. Children were degraded, humiliated, and controlled through violence, threats, drugs, alcohol, and terror. They were forced to fight to carry weapons, sell drugs, and commit murder, with some made to dig their own graves. Extreme abuses are described, including petrol poured over victims and set on fire, scriptures from the Koran read during gang rapes, young children placed inside microwaves, ovens, and freezers in attempts to murder them, ouija boards used to call spirits, and animals killed in sexual acts against children. Some were passed from rapist to rapist, and not all survived; survivors faced suicide, substance abuse, or murder. The abuse extended beyond sexual exploitation, reflecting a pursuit of power and domination and the systematic destruction of a child’s sense of self. The speaker emphasizes that, years later, professionals pressured survivors to take medication or risk losing custody of their children, and victims were told they were too damaged to care for their own kids. They were removed from families, placed into the care system, and trafficked, with rapists invited into the lives and custody of the next generation. Children born from these crimes were forced into contact with their mothers’ rapists by social workers and the family courts. The professionals who should have protected them did not, and some still do not. The inquiry is exposing the scale of institutional failure: warning signs, reports, patterns, and evidence ignored or destroyed; victims dismissed as troubled, promiscuous, or consenting; children in care raped by staff and sold to gangs; parents threatened with fines or arrests for attempting to safeguard their children. The speaker notes that whistleblowers were targeted and silenced, and politics played a role. Political parties sacrificed children for votes, and leaders hesitated to confront abuse due to discomfort or concerns about appearing racist or Islamophobic. The inquiry will follow evidence into institutions, systems, cultures of silence, and places where truth has been buried, with no race, religion, profession, or agency exempt from scrutiny. Survivors are acknowledged: they were children, not to blame but failed by the system. The true scale of what happened and continues to happen is described as too large for the inquiry to fully resolve quickly; many victims may never receive justice, but the inquiry aims to be ambitious in pursuing truth. The speaker thanks MP Rupert Loh for establishing the inquiry andextends gratitude to the participants, survivors, and the team for their bravery and resilience in confronting this evil crime.

- Thijs van den Brink introduces himself and is asked to confirm a past interview. He says he has interviewed many people and cannot recall details about a specific interview with Yvonne Köls regarding a child-abuse suspect vice president of the Hague court, mentioning the name Theo Huub. He offers to have the episode sent to him for refreshing his memory. The other speaker notes the exchange as unusual, suggesting it occurred under the CDA cabinets during Lubbers and was swept under the rug. - A separate speaker announces that the radio interview of Thijs van den Brink with Yvonne Köls from 2015 is on their YouTube channel, dated 19 August 2025, and invites listeners to check the text and listen. - The conversation shifts to Yvonne Köls’s 30-year-old novel about a pedosexual child judge. It is noted that it provoked strong backlash against her rather than the judge, including criticism, public opposition, and even physical intimidation. Despite this, the book is being republished. Köls explains that the case still disturbs her because the judge was never prosecuted, and the press largely gave attention to the opposing party rather than Köls or the victims. - Köls is a guest on a program. She explains the reason for reissuing the book: a new generation is interested and can engage with the topic. She mentions that the Catholic Church has taken steps internally and disrupted the system, and that investigations extended beyond the church to include child care institutions and care facilities. She states she had substantial knowledge from that period. - She reflects that at the time she could have spoken more about what she knew, but she was not heard. She notes that the children assigned to her pupils, who were also abused, were excluded from coverage by others at the time. She adds that the men involved are now 45 or 46 years old, and that the abuse occurred when the victims were between 10 and 15 years old. - The program concludes with acknowledgment that the victims have spoken.

The UK is uncovering a massive pedophile network that operated from the 1970s to the 1990s. Over 1,400 men, including 261 prominent figures, are implicated. More than 100,000 children were reportedly abused, with one witness, Nick, testifying that his father delivered him to a group of parliamentarians as a sex slave. The police continue to receive new complaints, with 216 suspects deceased and 76 politicians, 43 music industry figures, 135 TV and film industry workers, and 7 sports figures remaining. This scandal follows the Jimmy Saville case, where a BBC presenter was revealed to have abused hundreds of children without consequences.

I went on TV to talk about grooming gangs in Telford, and police suddenly showed up at my door, claiming it was their duty to follow up. They had done nothing about the abuse for decades but decided to intimidate me after my interview. They said they were trying to make a difference, but it seemed like they were targeting a victim instead of the perpetrators. It's pathetic that criticizing them on TV drove them into action. I have no idea who ordered this "raid."

The biggest issue in Hollywood is pedophilia, especially for children. It's a widespread secret, with predators surrounding young actors. Despite reporting names to the police in 1993, the focus was on Michael Jackson instead of investigating the abusers. The speaker, a victim of abuse, questions why the burden of exposing predators falls solely on them. Thousands in Hollywood hold similar information, yet the responsibility is unfairly placed on the speaker.

I appeared on a show discussing the abuse of girls in Telford, which sparked significant public support. The next day, police officers knocked on my door, claiming they needed to follow up on my interview about grooming gangs. They had tracked me down, visiting my previous addresses, and their approach felt intimidating, almost like they were treating me as a suspect. I pointed out that while they had done nothing to pursue my abusers, they were suddenly active after my TV appearance. I was surprised by the presence of 22 officers from the Child Sexual Exploitation team, who claimed they wanted to make a difference, yet they were targeting a victim instead of the perpetrators who have been abusing girls for decades.

David Icke and a host discuss the fallout from the latest Epstein files, arguing that the material confirms long-standing claims about a global satanic-pedophile network connected to powerful figures. They insist that Robert Maxwell was a Mossad asset and that Epstein’s circle involved a Massad/CIA/Mossad nexus, with links to Putin, Trump, and other world leaders, and that mainstream media are presenting these revelations as new and sensational when they are not. Icke argues that the Epstein emails, emails, eyewitness accounts, and party history are all consistent with a vast, interconnected system he calls the global cult, which operates beyond the public’s normal perception. He claims this network is not the origin of human control but a servant of a deeper, astral-level power. He introduces a framework in which the physical world is a frequency band and the astral dimension, outside visible light, is where the origin of control lies. He posits that nonhuman astral entities feed on human energy, specifically low-vibrational energy generated by fear, anger, hatred, and terror, and that this is the gift to the “gods” through rituals. The discussion lays out how rituals, including satanic and pedophilic ones, are designed to generate maximum terror in victims to produce powerful low-vibrational energy that these astral beings feed on. Pedophilia, in this view, is tied to energy extraction (adrenochrome is referenced) and to possession, whereby an entity influences a human by connecting to their electromagnetic field or aura. The possession can be partial, with facades of normal behavior, or fully infused, causing noticeable facial changes as the entity’s information overwhelms the possessed person. The participants discuss agency and complicity, noting that low-vibrational beings seek out people who are vulnerable or inclined toward wrongdoing, and that those who are high-vibrational—full of love and joy—cannot be attached to by these entities. They describe how secret societies maintain power through compartmentalization, ensuring most members are unaware of the true occult agenda, while inner circles orchestrate events to sustain the low-vibrational atmosphere that feeds the astral force. They connect Epstein to broader networks of power, including the CIA, Mossad, and the AI oligarchy, and emphasize how the Epstein case illustrates how the global cult connects people publicly presented as unconnected. They point to specific London connections: Ted Heath, Jimmy Savile, Lord Mountbatten, and Prince Charles, arguing that Savile was a procurer of children for the rich and famous and that internal royal circles knew of Savile’s activities, with media and police dynamics historically protecting such figures due to their connections. They recount how Savile’s proximity to the royal family is documented, including his relationship with Margaret Thatcher. They reference a supposed transformation: witnesses have described reptilian-like shapeshifting in individuals such as Heath, and a broader claim that some powerful figures are not fully human in a literal sense. They describe how media and political narratives are shaped to keep the public focused on visible conflicts (left vs right, Islam vs other religions) while the astral-level “they” remain behind the scenes, guiding events to generate loosh energy. The conversation broadens to Nelson-like power networks: Keir Starmer, Tony Blair, Larry Ellison, and Epstein-linked figures, implying that public roles mask deeper affiliations. They discuss how the Overton window is manipulated to keep society within a narrow band of acceptable discourse, and how the true sources of control lie beyond ordinary perception. Icke argues that the awakening involves redefining self-identity from body-based labels to seeing oneself as consciousness, an expansion of awareness beyond the limited frequency humans typically perceive. By recognizing a larger, interconnected reality, people can perceive the “they” behind the apparent us-vs-them divisions and see how the entire system is coordinated from a higher level. The Roadmap, Icke’s book, is described as connecting dots across politics, occult phenomena, and afterlife concepts, suggesting that the current revelations are part of a broader unveiling of hidden forces. He frames the public revelations as a process that will shift normals and open pathways to greater insight, with the potential for both challenging and hopeful outcomes as information surfaces and people rethink established beliefs.

As a child, I knew Jimmy Savile was important at the hospital. He would touch me inappropriately during church services, progressing from stroking my back to putting his hands down my trousers. I tried to protect myself by wearing more clothes, even putting tampons in my bottom. The worst was when he put his whole hand in my mouth, making it hard to breathe. I felt invisible, like no one could see me. I hid in school under cupboards, feeling disgusting and blaming myself for not stopping it. I thought maybe no one else had experienced this, but I realized others might have been stronger than me to speak up.

The speaker discusses their familiarity with Gary Shaba, who was known for his work on BBC shows. They mention that Shaba had a reputation for being unapproachable and possibly engaging in inappropriate behavior with young people. The speaker expresses disbelief that there was any mystery surrounding these allegations and criticizes the former head of BBC for claiming ignorance. They question why it took so long for the truth to come out and speculate about the existence of a censorship committee that suppresses such information. The speaker also mentions that Shaba was a friend of Prince Charles and suggests that this may have influenced the decision to keep the allegations quiet.

Former Labour adviser Scarlett Maguire and political commentator Amon Bogle discuss front-page claims about the grooming inquiry, framing it as sabotage by Labour and a government-controlled process. - Speaker 1 (Amon Bogle) says the Telegraph front page alleges the grooming inquiry was sabotaged by Labour, and argues the inquiry from the outset was a follow-up of a cover-up spanning three decades, noting Labour initially refused a national inquiry. He asserts the government is manipulating the inquiry by refusing victims and survivors the chance to name perpetrators as Pakistanis, and by preventing examination of religious aspects of the abuse. - Speaker 2 (Scarlett Maguire) contends the issue is not an “Asian grooming gangs” problem but a Pakistani problem in the UK, with the vast majority of perpetrators from Mirpur in Pakistan. She says two women removed themselves from the inquiry because they were being silenced by the government from looking into race. - Speaker 0 (host) remarks on the broader fear of addressing the issue, recounting community knowledge of grooming in shops, gyms, and corner shops, and says he knows the abuse continues and no one is doing anything about it. - Speaker 2 adds that the country has been too scared to discuss the perpetrators, noting that police, social workers, and care workers were afraid of being labeled racist if they spoke out. - Speaker 3 (another participant) notes that there were conflated timelines and that early on, victims faced police or social workers who could be perceived as perpetrators in some cases. He mentions Kirsty Dahmer as the person who first brought grooming cases to court and reopened cases that had been closed, stressing the difficulty of running any inquiry that listens to all parties. - Speaker 3 emphasizes the challenge of conducting an inquiry where social workers and police are involved, and argues that victims and vulnerable young women in care were abused by social workers, the men who did it, and later by the police. He underlines the horrific nature of these events and notes that what happened is still happening today. - The discussion notes the ongoing impact on young women in care, with a final, emotive remark that reading a certain girl’s book would break one’s heart, signaling the lasting harm and urgency of the issue.

This is a story about an approved school for troubled 14-year-old girls. The speaker recalls being there as a child and seeing celebrities, including Jimmy Savile, who would often show up. The speaker found it unsettling, especially since some of the girls were accused of serious crimes. Many of the girls were drugged, and the speaker witnessed Savile leaving with three excited girls. The speaker's parents questioned why a famous person like Savile was allowed to be around young girls, but the school defended him as a friend and charity supporter who could make dreams come true.

It's all about the cover-up and maintaining an image. I met Pierre Trudeau during that week, and my interaction with him was frightening. I didn't recognize him until much later. David Rockefeller had me trained as a spy and I was a sex slave, reporting on the weaknesses and preferences of powerful men. Trudeau was particularly intimidating; I felt I could never please him while alive, which made me fear for my safety. I conveyed to Rockefeller that Trudeau might want to harm a child, which could be used against him later. I can't recall how many celebrities abused me at that event, but I always maintained a distance and knew their actions were wrong.