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Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

The speaker claims that measles was not deadly in the US after the early 1900s, citing improved nutrition and later, Vitamin A treatment. They believe contracting measles can be beneficial, leading to increased resistance to certain diseases. Regarding an outbreak in Samoa, the speaker alleges that a measles vaccine caused deaths, not measles itself, and that they did not influence policy there. They maintain that vaccines cause autism, referencing a CDC study on the hepatitis B vaccine that showed an elevated risk. They accuse the CDC of fraud, claiming a scientist named Paul Thornson produced a study to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism, stole money, and is now a fugitive. The speaker states there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries. They accuse the CDC of being controlled by the pharmaceutical industry.

The speaker asserts that the MMR and MMR V vaccines have been linked to two thousand six hundred percent more deaths than measles infection since 1995. The claim is that for the past thirty years, the MMR shots have killed far more children than measles, and that hundreds of infants and toddlers died after these shots, often from SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome), cardiac arrest, seizures, and encephalitis. The speaker emphasizes that these shots are killing some of these children, with most deaths occurring within about two weeks after the shot, and forty percent dying within one week. The speaker notes that the temporality checks out and that most of these deaths occurred at ages one to one and a half, right when they receive the MMR shots. The speaker reports that twenty-five percent of these deaths were classified as sudden infant death syndrome. The speaker describes babies dying in their sleep as a result of these shots and calls the situation absolutely disturbing and particular in terms of the causes of death. In summary, the speaker states that all of this combined in the study shows unequivocally that these shots are deadly, and concludes that the MMR and MMRV shots should not be given anymore. The suggestion is to split them up if parents still want them, rather than administering the full combination.

The speaker believes all vaccines are suspect. As an emergency medicine physician, the speaker thought vaccines only contained a dead or attenuated virus and saline. In September 2000, after reading a package insert and researching vaccines, the speaker was mortified to learn that a child receiving all scheduled vaccines gets almost 13,000 micrograms of aluminum, almost 600 micrograms of mercury, and over 200 chemicals. The speaker states that this is why vaccines have never been proven safe, and vaccination is like injecting foreign matter into a baby.

The transcript discusses the book Vaccinations Do Not Protect by Eleanor McBean, claiming that vaccination goes against the constitution to take this “garbage.” It asserts that most people don’t know that doctors do not take the shots themselves or give them to their own children, yet they administer them to other people’s children because they receive a commission. It notes that certain physicians have observed patterns such as paralysis within twenty-four hours after the injection, up to six months after, cancer near the injection area, and diseases such as TB within twenty years. The speaker claims that Edward Jenner, the father of vaccination, noticed a similar pattern in 1796, describing it as poisoning the people. The question is posed: why do they do this? The answer given is that vaccination is a big business, and that it is protected by the government. The speaker asserts that vaccination was protected by the government in 1986 so that people cannot sue. It is stated as part of the argument that vaccination is the leading cause of why children die under the age of 15.

Speaker 0 asserts that there is no safe vaccine on the childhood schedule and labels themselves an anti-vaxxer because no vaccine has been properly tested for safety. They state that, in the book Vax Facts, you are more likely to die from the vaccine than from the disease for which there is a vaccine, and that this is true for every single vaccine on the childhood schedule. They acknowledge that death from the vaccine is still a death and “super rare,” but claim you are much more likely to die from the vaccine. They ask which do you want: a greater chance of dying from the vaccine or a lesser chance of dying from the disease, noting that for many of these diseases, the risk is zero.

Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

The discussion centers on the credibility of vaccine safety claims made by various health organizations and the FDA. One speaker argues that vaccines undergo rigorous testing, while the other contends that no vaccine has ever completed a long-term placebo-controlled trial before being licensed. They express distrust in the FDA, citing past issues with drugs like Vioxx and opioids, suggesting that the FDA misled doctors and the public about their safety. The speaker believes that pharmaceutical companies influence these agencies, leading to misinformation about vaccine safety. The goal is to address and rectify this perceived corruption.

The speaker claims that no double-blind, placebo-controlled safety trials have been conducted on any childhood vaccines currently on the market. The speaker states that they have searched for such trials and been unable to find any. According to the speaker, Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins allegedly admitted that placebo-controlled safety trials are not performed on childhood vaccines because it would be unethical to test products administered to children. The speaker challenges news agencies to provide evidence of a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial done prior to licensure for any childhood vaccine, asserting that it doesn't exist.

The speaker discusses the misconception that vaccines are always beneficial and highlights the lower under-five mortality rates in other countries with fewer vaccines. They question why certain vaccines, like flu and varicella, are not widely adopted in other countries and raise concerns about the correlation between vaccines and autism. Another speaker emphasizes the need for an open debate on this topic and criticizes the limited number of vaccines and ingredients studied in relation to autism. They express frustration with doctors who dismiss the potential link between vaccines and autism without thoroughly examining the research. The speaker urges for a more collaborative approach to help children and criticizes those who antagonize the medical community.

The speaker claims that no childhood vaccine has ever undergone a safety trial using a double-blind, placebo-based study. They assert that this type of study, involving a saline injection as a placebo, is the only way to determine the safety of a pharmaceutical product. Furthermore, the speaker states that there has never been a study comparing the health outcomes of children who receive the full schedule of 72 (or potentially up to 90) vaccines to those who receive none. Because of the lack of safety studies and comparative data, the speaker chooses not to inject themselves or their children with vaccines. They want evidence that vaccines are safe and make people healthier.

The transcript argues that discussions of vaccines should be approached as part of eugenics, claiming that this is where the concept originates. It then cites medical claims attributed to “doctor Henry,” stating that “numerous vaccinations” and the “medical monopoly” have caused “more disease and suffering than I could name.” The speaker claims that diseases such as cancer, syphilis, and cold sores are “direct result[s] of vaccination.” Next, it references “doctor Herbert Snow,” asserting that doctors are “always fire[d]” and claiming that in recent years “many women and men in the prime of life have dropped dead suddenly.” The speaker says this resembles 2020 and claims that after attending a feast or banquet, “eighty percent of the deaths are caused by inoculation or vaccination.” Finally, it cites “doctor Clark,” claiming that cancer was “practically unknown” until vaccinations with cowpox vaccine were introduced. The speaker adds personal testimony: the speaker “had to deal with at least two hundred cases of cancer” and “never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated person.”

World governments have harmed millions without apology. The speaker believes vaccines cause autism, but mainstream media won't discuss it. They gathered data from 10,000 parents showing a link between vaccines and autism, ADHD, and other health issues. More shots lead to poorer health in children.

"The myth of vaccines that, a, they are safe and, b, they are necessary and that they eradicated childhood disease, that is a myth." "They've never been tested for safety." "There are no placebo controlled trials." "They always put in the control group the immunogens that's in the vaccines." "That those adjuvants, whether it be aluminum or other substances, those by themselves are dangerous." "they refused to do a true placebo controlled trial like with saline." "they almost all were nearly eradicated before the introduction of the vaccine." "That is not true." "It's reproducible, occurs at two months, four months, and six months." "And most of those deaths are within either days to a couple of weeks of the vaccine."

The speaker states they searched for years for a pre-licensing safety trial of the 72 vaccine doses effectively mandated for American children. They claim that every other medication requires a safety trial comparing health outcomes in a placebo group versus a vaccine group before FDA licensing. The speaker assumed this was also done for vaccines. They state they found out that vaccines were exempt from this requirement.

The discussion centers on the claim that SIDS is a “vaccine death.” It states that seventy five percent of all deaths from SIDS happened within seven days of a vaccination. The conversation then shifts to polio. It references “Polio, forty eight hour safety review trial” and says the safety review lasted “forty eight hours, two days.” It also brings up President Roosevelt, described as “famous for having polio in the wheelchair,” and adds that he “had transverse myelitis.” A response rejects the polio framing: “No way. Didn’t have polio.” The speaker disputes trust in doctors’ knowledge of vaccines, saying, “How can you sit here and say doctors don’t know anything about vaccines?” Another claim follows that “a doctor is lucky if they have a half a day education on vaccines,” and that “I have yet to find a pediatrician that can list the ingredients of any vaccines.” The speaker further asserts, “They don’t know anything at all.” A broader argument is made about vaccine testing and timing for children. The speaker claims that “99.5 of our children are getting a product that was tested for five days” and says this product was tested “for a disease they will not come in contact with until they’re an adult.” The speaker adds “and hopefully never,” linking this to a belief about later behavior: “if they were raised correctly, will find themselves sharing heroin needles or sleeping with prostitutes.” The conclusion of the argument is presented as a belief that uncovering these “truth” points will expose broader wrongdoing: “I do believe when people see the truth on this, it will reveal everything that’s corrupt about the world that you live in.”

The speaker questions the necessity of tetanus vaccines every 10 years, disputing the claim that tetanus can cause death within minutes to hours. They suggest that the vaccine may contain ingredients affecting fertility, citing the World Health Organization and NIH's alleged use of tetanus vaccines as abortion or sterilization methods in certain countries. The speaker expresses distrust in these organizations and implies a connection to the COVID vaccine.

Speaker 1 says they believed more people were becoming aware that vaccines cause autism and sudden infant death syndrome in certain cases, that many vaccines are never proven safe or effective, and that approvals occur under “fraudulent conditions,” citing laws and authorizations such as the PREP Act and emergency use authorization for COVID vaccines. They argue the vaccine industry is “a complete and total fraud” and ask whether that realization is happening in local government or schools. Speaker 0 replies that in states including Connecticut, New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, the situation still resembles 2019 because it is framed as a political issue. They claim left-leaning officials will “do anything” to thwart what they call an agenda, despite what they describe as “solid, peer-reviewed scientific data,” “mountains of evidence,” and congressional and Senate hearings. They reference testimony by Aaron Siri, Robert F. Kennedy as HHS, Robert Malone, and others, and say Senator Ron Johnson held hearings. Speaker 0 asserts that when they tried to testify, their testimony was muted and cut off during a public health committee process. Speaker 0 says officials on those committees continue to claim there is no evidence vaccines cause autism, that vaccines are safe and effective, and that vaccines are the best way to protect public health and achieve herd immunity. They also mention that these officials still wear masks in legislative chambers. Speaker 1 responds that the persistence of such positions raises the question of how society can function with “ignorant, illiterate people” in charge of legislative processes. Speaker 0 says they no longer live in Connecticut and presents two options: voting them out is not expected because of a supermajority and because, in their view, many voters are affected by election fraud, not alive, not legal citizens, or are “blinded followers.” They state the conflict is framed as “my team, us versus them.” They say they do not think the situation can be won politically in Connecticut, so options are moving or fighting back in courts. Speaker 0 says they moved but still wants to fight in court for states including California, Connecticut, and New York, citing friends and family who cannot leave due to circumstances such as custody arrangements and the risk of being charged with kidnapping. They state they continue lawsuits for those who cannot relocate.

Speaker 1 states that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They claim that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 asserts this is not an opinion, but can be verified by anyone reviewing package inserts and clinical trial documents on the FDA website.

The speaker states they would not give their children the measles, mumps vaccine, claiming that measles was deadly in the early 1900s, but is now easily survivable, especially with Vitamin A. They claim studies show that contracting measles can make children healthier and more resistant to diseases later in life. The speaker denies causing a measles outbreak in Samoa, stating the Prime Minister had already banned the vaccine after deaths, and that people died from a bad vaccine imported from Australia, not measles. The speaker asserts that vaccines cause autism, citing a CDC study that showed an elevated risk of autism in children who received the hepatitis B vaccine within their first 30 days. They claim that studies disproving this link were fraudulent, conducted by "biostitutes" paid by the CDC, and that the lead scientist, Paul Thorensen, is a fugitive wanted for stealing money. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries.

The speaker argues that the vaccine program should stop and that injecting foreign matter into babies cannot be considered an improvement to their health. They reference Peter McCullough as someone who said the program needs to halt. They criticize the expansion of vaccine policy since the 1986 Act, which granted liability protection for the trio of vaccines (MMR, DPT, and polio) at the time, and suggest there was no foresight about expanding to multiple doses of many vaccines for little babies. Now that this has happened, they insist it must end. They point to polio as an example, noting that children still receive four polio vaccines even though polio has not appeared in the Western Hemisphere since 1991, and that the World Health Organization declared the region polio-free in 1994. They question why four doses of polio vaccines, which contain monkey kidney cells and formaldehyde, are given for a disease the region is no longer exposed to. They ask, “Why? To protect against what? That’s not even here.” They extend the argument to “the same thing” with other vaccines. The speaker asserts that measles has not been deadly since 1963 and explains that the measles virus has a life cycle in which an outbreak occurs roughly every four years regardless of vaccination rates. They make a similar claim about pertussis. They argue that injecting foreign matter into children does not improve their health and is not preventing deadly diseases that are now treated with antibiotics, steroids, inhalers, and other therapies. They point out that it is not a big deal to have multiple tetanus shots and still contract tetanus, using this as evidence about the effectiveness of tetanus vaccination. Overall, the speaker contends that the concept of deadly diseases being eradicated by vaccines is a multi-generational myth and that vaccines are not reliably protective. They argue that the practice has run its course and that it is overdue for the entire vaccine program to end, suggesting that it did its job and should now be discontinued. The concluding stance is that the multi-generational myth of deadly diseases and the safety and protection of vaccines should stop, and that the program should be ended.

The speaker claims the risk of death from whooping cough is less than one in 2.3 million, while the risk of death from the vaccine is greater than one in 76,000. They state the vaccine is killing far more children than the disease itself, estimating potentially 20 to 40 times more deaths from the vaccine. Another speaker emphasizes that any vaccine, specifically DTaP, carries the risk of death for a child.

Speaker 0 asserts that the MMR and MMR V vaccines have been linked to two thousand six hundred percent more deaths than measles infection since 1995. The speaker claims that, over the past thirty years, the MMR shots have killed far more children than measles, identifying hundreds of infants and toddlers who died after these shots, often from SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome, cardiac arrest, seizures, and encephalitis. The speaker states that most of these deaths occurred within about two weeks after the shot, with forty percent dying within one week. The deaths are described as temporally linked to the vaccination, with the majority of fatalities occurring at ages one to one and a half, which the speaker notes as the time they receive the MMR shots. The speaker claims that twenty-five percent of these deaths were classified as sudden infant death syndrome. The overall claim is that these shots are killing the babies in their sleep, described as absolutely disturbing and as part of a broader study. The speaker concludes that the shots are deadly and that the MMR and MMRV shots should not be given anymore; if parents still want them, they should be split up rather than administered as a combined dose, labeling the current approach as “the full load of garbage.”

German summary: Speaker 0 äußert eine ganz konkrete, sehr gewagte These: "ich sage offen, dass ich von Impfungen bei Kindern unter 3 Jahren abrate." Speaker 1 fordert, das Buch zu lesen, das "so geschrieben ist, dass sogar Oberstufenschüler es verstehen", und sagt: "Wenn ein Arzt das liest und das nicht versteht, dann soll er seinen Titel an die Wand hängen." Er behauptet, Impfstoffe seien "lebensgefährlich" und die "größte Gefahr der Menschheit." Begründung: klassische Impfstoffe enthalten Zusatzstoffe wie Aluminiumsalze, die "Gift" seien und in die Blutbahn gelangen; der Unterschied zwischen Injektion und Verzehr sei entscheidend; in Muskeln injizierte Substanzen gelangen in die Blutbahn. Bei Kleinkindern sei die Konzentration nach einer Impfung mit Diphtherie, Tetanus, Patusis "unglaublich hoch." Er schlägt vor, "wartet wenigstens die 3 Jahre ab." Lebendimpfstoffe hält er für problematisch; "niemand hat's wirklich gezeigt, dass die Viren harmlos sind." Er verweist auf Polio, Tollwut und Tetanus und behauptet, "für keinen Impfung ... echte Wirksamkeit nachgewiesen worden" außer Tollwut und Tetanus. English translation: Speaker 0 asserts a very concrete, very bold thesis: "I openly say that I advise against vaccinations for children under 3." Speaker 1 urges reading the book, which is "written in a way that even high school students can understand," and says: "If a doctor reads it and does not understand it, then he should hang his title on the wall." He claims vaccines are "life-threatening" and the "greatest danger to humanity." Reasoning: classical vaccines contain additives such as aluminum salts, which are "poison" and reach the bloodstream; the difference between injection and ingestion is crucial; substances injected into muscle reach the bloodstream. In toddlers, the concentration after a vaccination with Diphtherie, Tetanus, Patusis is "incredibly high." He suggests "wait at least 3 years." He regards live vaccines as problematic; "no one has shown that the viruses are harmless." He references polio, rabies, and tetanus, and claims "for no vaccine has real efficacy been demonstrated" except for rabies and tetanus.

"What we're told is that the amount of aluminum in vaccines is completely safe. It's so miniscule. It would have no adverse effect on the human body." "Two hundred and fifty micrograms of aluminum are being injected into your day one old baby in that hepatitis b vaccine. Ten times the oral lethal dose in a rat study, and no one has ever checked it." "CBS reports United States Of America has the highest day one old birth rate in the world. In fact, we have more babies die in the first day of life than every other industrialized nation combined."