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Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

The speaker questions why the press is not covering the fact that a senior scientist at the CDC, Dr. Bill Thompson, has claimed that the CDC lied about their science. They challenge the credibility of doctors and organizations that support vaccine safety, stating that real science is found in published research papers. The speaker offers a $100,000 reward to anyone who can provide a study supporting the safety of vaccines. They compare the situation to the Catholic Church's handling of the pedophile scandal, emphasizing the importance of looking at the science and being skeptical of those in power.

The speaker claims that a year and a half ago, whistleblowers revealed that the COVID-19 vaccine was never intended to work. They mention that even Bonnie Henry from Vancouver admitted on TV that vaccinated people are ending up in the hospital, but she provided a strange explanation for it. The speaker warned their father not to take the vaccine, stating that it was not designed to work and carries all the risks with none of the benefits. They mention that vaccinated people are getting sicker while the percentage of unvaccinated people getting sick is changing. The speaker asserts that the truth is being concealed, and they mention Israel as the most vaccinated country. The speaker asks if anyone remembers the name of another country they mentioned on their Facebook.

Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

The discussion centers on the credibility of vaccine safety claims made by various health organizations and the FDA. One speaker argues that vaccines undergo rigorous testing, while the other contends that no vaccine has ever completed a long-term placebo-controlled trial before being licensed. They express distrust in the FDA, citing past issues with drugs like Vioxx and opioids, suggesting that the FDA misled doctors and the public about their safety. The speaker believes that pharmaceutical companies influence these agencies, leading to misinformation about vaccine safety. The goal is to address and rectify this perceived corruption.

The transcript alleges that multiple senior FDA officials, not just Peter Marks, are “complicit.” It claims American people believed these officials, and that each day the officials lie “compounding the lie day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.” It says this makes honesty “less likely” over time. The speaker then references a member of Congress who “cut videos” tied to “the jab,” arguing the videos would “end the pandemic.” The transcript asserts that the advocacy for the injections “killed people” and “permanently disabled them,” adding that doctors, federal health officials, and Stephen Colbert “wouldn’t want to do that.” The speaker describes what they call a “global state of denial,” saying other governments relied on federal health officials and “forced it down there,” with administration mandates requiring the injections “in complete violation” of the Nuremberg Code, which the speaker frames as prohibiting forcing medical treatment. The transcript claims that people died as a result. It contrasts political claims about the pandemic, saying Biden blamed “the pandemic of the unvaccinated” while “losing patients,” and then asserting, “Now we’re losing patients too.” The speaker says the central issue is that “your injection didn’t stop transmission” and that “your injection killed people” and “permanently disabled people.”

Speaker 0 asserts that the design of the molecular structures in vaccines and injections has no purpose other than to injure and kill. Drawing on 30 years of experience in rational drug design, they say every component in a vial is chosen by someone with specific objectives (e.g., how quickly absorbed, how long it lasts, where it distributes in the body) and that these components are not random or natural products. They declare the ingredients to be toxic by design and intentionally harmful. This, they claim, fits with what they call “the lie” about the pandemic, arguing there wasn’t a real pandemic. According to Speaker 0, the pandemic’s purpose was to damage the economy, train people to comply under a mock emergency, and compel people to get vaccinated. They warn that if people do nothing, speak up less, and simply follow directives, they will lose their freedom and then their lives. They allege that a self-appointed group of very rich people desires a much smaller global population than 8,000,000,000 people, and they claim to be able to deduce the script behind these events. The speaker urges listeners to start talking to anyone and everyone relentlessly, insisting that this situation is not going away. They warn that without protest and refusal, people will first lose their freedom and then their lives.

Vaccine recommendations typically come from the Advisory Committee of Immunization Practices (an outside consulting committee at CDC) and VRBPAC (within FDA), which recommends vaccine licensure. These committees only adopted evidence-based medicine about twelve years ago. The speaker states that during their administration, they want safety studies prior to vaccine licensure and recommendation. They claim vaccines are exempt from pre-licensing safety testing, and the COVID vaccine was the only one tested in a full placebo trial. They assert that the other 76 shots children receive between birth and 18 have not been safety tested against a placebo, meaning the risk profile is not understood. The speaker intends to remedy this.

The speaker claims that no double-blind, placebo-controlled safety trials have been conducted on any childhood vaccines currently on the market. The speaker states that they have searched for such trials and been unable to find any. According to the speaker, Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins allegedly admitted that placebo-controlled safety trials are not performed on childhood vaccines because it would be unethical to test products administered to children. The speaker challenges news agencies to provide evidence of a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial done prior to licensure for any childhood vaccine, asserting that it doesn't exist.

The speaker questions why the press is not covering the fact that a senior scientist at the CDC, Dr. Bill Thompson, has claimed that the CDC lied about their science. They challenge the organizations that claim vaccines are safe to provide scientific evidence to support their claims. The speaker believes that doctors are not scientists and argues that science is based on published research papers. They compare the situation to the Catholic Church's pedophile scandal, where the institution was prioritized over protecting children. The speaker offers $100,000 to anyone who can provide a study supporting the safety of vaccines. They emphasize the importance of skepticism and the need to question those in power.

The speaker claims that searching the FDA website for “FDA licensed vaccines” and checking section 6.1 on vaccine insert documents will show that placebo trials “never did” occur, including for childhood vaccines. They argue that placebo trial details are included in insert materials for vaccines where the public “never got to see” certain information due to lack of informed consent, and they say experts would claim those studies were done because they rely on what the insert language indicates or what they assert based on expert testimony. The speaker further asserts that Tony Fauci lied about six-foot distancing and that “Everyone at the CDC and the regulatory agencies” lied about COVID-19 vaccine efficacy, specifically claiming the vaccine “would stop transmission” was false and that if vaccinated people contract and transmit the virus, “the virus stops with you” and they claim it “does not” stop with you. They say the FDA has “already admitted it,” and they call for people to “start asking people to show their work,” to seek evidence, and to “not trust experts any longer,” stating they have been lied to “long enough.” They express that they hope a documentary is not the last one and say they take interviews without concern about edits that could make them look “crazy,” because they believe viewers will agree. The speaker then discusses the “vaxxed versus unvaxxed study,” saying they have been addressing it “forever” and that they took a risk by agreeing to trust the study’s results if the other party published them. They say the CDC has “done this study a thousand times” in ways meant to prove vaccinators are healthier and “they can’t do it,” and they claim that results become “bad” when the study is done “the right way.” They describe an “inconvenient study” that they say is inconvenient for panelists, for the pharmaceutical industry that they say owns television stations, and for CDC leadership and HHS officials they claim were involved in “covering up the real science.” They conclude that people will “not take it anymore” and that they now have evidence “like they have never, ever had before.”

The speaker claims that no childhood vaccine has ever undergone a safety trial using a double-blind, placebo-based study. They assert that this type of study, involving a saline injection as a placebo, is the only way to determine the safety of a pharmaceutical product. Furthermore, the speaker states that there has never been a study comparing the health outcomes of children who receive the full schedule of 72 (or potentially up to 90) vaccines to those who receive none. Because of the lack of safety studies and comparative data, the speaker chooses not to inject themselves or their children with vaccines. They want evidence that vaccines are safe and make people healthier.

In early 2017, the speaker and Robert Kennedy Jr. met with Tony Fauci and Francis Collins at the NIH to discuss vaccine safety concerns. They questioned the absence of double-blind placebo safety trials for childhood vaccines. According to the speaker, Fauci and Collins admitted that such trials are not conducted because they would be unethical. The speaker proposed a comparative study using the Vaccine Safety Data Link (VSD) to compare the health outcomes of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals, assessing rates of cancer, diabetes, ADD/ADHD, autism, Tourette's, lupus, and leukemia. The speaker claims this study could be completed quickly, but alleges that NIH officials stated they would never conduct it. The speaker suggests that if vaccines were proven safe through such a study, concerns about vaccine safety would disappear. The speaker believes the study has been done, but the data was manipulated to make vaccinated people appear healthier.

The speaker claims that they have lied about the vaccine. They state that the vaccine distributes throughout the body, including breast milk, contradicting previous information. They also mention that the vaccine does not prevent disease transmission or reduce the risk of hospitalization, which they believed to be true. They refer to data from various countries showing that those who are double, triple, or quadruple vaccinated have a higher risk of hospitalization compared to the unvaccinated. The speaker emphasizes that this information is not fabricated.

The speaker discusses the issue of unvaccinated individuals and the lack of studies conducted by the government. They argue that giving the vaccine to everyone absolves the government of understanding its effects. However, they found studies in plain sight that compared vaccinated and unvaccinated children. Over 100 such studies are featured in the book, with very few coming from the federal government. The FDA claims it is not their job to conduct these studies, but the problem lies in the funding of studies by those who stand to profit from the products. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) should be evaluating the risks associated with vaccines, especially when given together, but they have been negligent in doing so. The speaker suggests that vaccines should undergo placebo-controlled trials like other drugs.

Speaker 0 argues that invoking “the science says this because CDC says it, because my doctor says it, or because FDA says it” is a “logical fallacy” and an “appeals to authority.” “You cannot show me a study that shows that the flu vaccine actually efforts more problems than it causes.” He says he can show many studies, “It’s in the Dear Sanjay Gupta letter.” “Show me that study, then I will walk away from that issue.” Speaker 1 concedes the CDC isn’t perfect but notes, “There are hundreds of millions of people who have gotten these vaccine vaccines who are perfectly healthy. Perfectly healthy in part thanks to the vaccines.” “The vaccines are not all bad.” and adds, “Just because we have suspicions about some of them, and in particular, the COVID vaccine, it doesn't mean we can and because you started this, Bobby, by saying, I am not anti vaxx.” Speaker 0 asks for “a scientific study for each vaccine that shows that this vaccine is averting for harm and it's causing.” Speaker 1 says, “They say the studies show no linkage of harm.” The exchange ends: “Let's advance the discussion. Okay?”

The speaker states they searched for years for a pre-licensing safety trial of the 72 vaccine doses effectively mandated for American children. They claim that every other medication requires a safety trial comparing health outcomes in a placebo group versus a vaccine group before FDA licensing. The speaker assumed this was also done for vaccines. They state they found out that vaccines were exempt from this requirement.

There is a discussion about how public trust in vaccination has changed since the pandemic. The speaker notes that years ago there were “five people in the world who were prepared to talk about the thorny issue of vaccination.” Post COVID, however, “half the adult population of the world are now saying, hold on, we don't trust you. You lied to us. It's not what you told us, safe and effective.” This skepticism extends to vaccines given to children, with the question, “Does this apply to all the other vaccines you're putting into my kids?” The speaker then asserts that “safety studies haven't been done,” suggesting that important research behind vaccines is incomplete or lacking. This leads to the claim that “they've created this mess for themselves.” Despite the frustration, the speaker emphasizes the moral weight of deception, stating, “it's really tough to lie. I mean, lying gets you into real trouble.”

The speaker asserts that COVID-19 shots do more than affect the immune system; they can damage the brain and worsen mental health. They claim a wave of studies shows sharp increases in various strokes: ischemic strokes up to 44%, hemorrhagic strokes up to 50%, and transient ischemic attacks (mini strokes) up to 67%. They also report increases in neurological and autoimmune conditions, including myasthenia gravis up 71% and Alzheimer’s disease up 22%. Cognitive impairment is claimed to have risen by nearly 138%, while depression is up 68%, anxiety disorders up 44%, and sleep disorders up 93%. The speaker links all of these increases to “toxic spike protein accumulation and persistence in the brain.” The speaker states this is not a conspiracy theory and cites what they describe as documented peer‑reviewed research and studies by experts. They name epidemiologist Nicholas Holcher, who allegedly says that using mRNA to hijack cells in various organ systems to produce a highly toxic spike protein that persists in the body for months or years was “one of the worst ideas in medical history.” The speaker then asks, “So what can you do?” as a transition to presumably recommendations or actions, though no specific actions are listed in the provided segment.

If regulatory agencies continue to rush products to market without long-term safety trials, the planet is in danger. The speaker questions what would happen if a vaccine wipes out fertility. They state that no childhood vaccines on the schedule have gone through randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials. The speaker finds it alarming that Dr. Martin Macri's statement that no future vaccine will be licensed without a proper randomized controlled placebo trial is shocking to some. They accuse mainstream media of spreading misinformation by denying the absence of placebo trials, then admitting it to avoid delaying vaccine advancement. The speaker asserts the pharmaceutical industry has lied about drugs like Fenben and Vioxx and is now making vaccines. They call for accountability from the industry and the media, warning of grave danger if this does not happen. They disapprove of five-day safety trials with no placebo, especially for products given to healthy children.

Speaker 1 states that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They claim that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 asserts this is not an opinion, but can be verified by anyone reviewing package inserts and clinical trial documents on the FDA website.

Speaker 0 argues that 'the trustworthiness of the information that we actually receive from the news media' is a major problem and notes that 'the easiest thing for our democratic colleagues to do is to scare people.' He asks, 'COVID nineteen was politicized?' Speaker 1 answers, 'the whole process was politicized' and says 'we were lied to about everything... the vaccines would prevent transmission' and 'they prevent infection'—claims he says are contradicted by 'the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.' He accuses the CDC of letting 'the teachers union' write school-closure orders that 'hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science based.' He adds examples: 'Martin Koldor from Harvard' was 'ejected [from COVID]... because he wasn't in the orthodoxy'; 'FDA during COVID' officials 'Gruber and Krausz' criticized Biden mandates; Biden said, 'I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine' then mandated it and fired top FDA officials who said it had not been properly tested.' The exchange ends with 'Yes.'

Speaker 0 says they found “information like this,” such as vaccine insert paper, with “nothing printed on it,” which they call disheartening and disgusting. They add that it “just keeps happening” and claim the CDC redacts “every single word” of a 148-page study on a myocarditis after COVID vaccination. Speaker 0 says they asked someone to print the study, and that the entire 148 pages are redacted. They ask what a study does if “there’s nothing there,” and they ask what might have been there that required redaction. Speaker 1 says they are “witnessing an active cover up” involving “a colossal consumer product safety debacle” affecting the entire world. They claim that in the United States, the CDC, National Institutes of Health, and FDA are actively involved in a cover up, and that similar cover ups are occurring in the UK with the MHRA, in Europe with European medicine agencies, and in Australia with the Therapeutic Goods Administration. Speaker 1 states that each company that puts out a product has an obligation to produce “ninety days of safety monitoring” after the product comes out, describing it as a regulatory dossier. They claim that if someone has a problem and reports it to a company like Pfizer, Pfizer must report, write down what happened, collate it into a report, and make it publicly available. Speaker 1 says that when the ninety days elapsed for Pfizer’s first vaccine approved on 12/10/2020, Pfizer “didn’t produce a report.” They add that people asked what was happening with the vaccine, and Pfizer allegedly would not disclose what happened, leading to a court case. Speaker 1 says the lawyer for the FDA stepped in to say they did not want to release Pfizer’s dossier for fifty-five years. Speaker 1 then says that after the plaintiff pushed, the Pfizer dossier “slowly” came out. They claim Pfizer recorded one thousand two hundred and twenty-three deaths with their product within ninety days of release, and they say people called Pfizer in desperation watching family members die after taking the vaccine. Speaker 1 also claims Pfizer recorded “over twelve hundred” new adverse events and refers to “doctor Boden” discussing problems they say they have been grappling with. They conclude by claiming the FDA worked to cover this up and should have been regulating the company with at least monthly meetings and full disclosure about novel vaccines, described by Speaker 1 as a genetic transfer technology platform and as the first time human beings were injected with foreign genetic material in world history, after which “they were getting it full on.” Speaker 1 ends by saying “Two thirds of the world’s population took”

The speaker believes COVID vaccine programs should be stopped. They are astounded by the number of papers critical of the vaccine or showing negative effects. The speaker claims a group of researchers funded by Pfizer and the NIH bullies editors to retract papers with negative findings about the vaccine. They assert the number of retractions is appalling. According to the speaker, in one instance where an editor resisted, Nature Springer bought the journal and retracted the paper. The speaker states that this is what they have been dealing with.