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Speaker notes that there is fear people want Trump to have done something gross with women, but 'I really don't believe wanna be clear. I do not believe that. Yeah. Not covering for Trump. I just don't think that's true.' They insist there is no indication, saying they've spoken to people 'close to Epstein, very close to Epstein, who've told me off camera, in private, no, it's not. Trump never did that shit.' The speaker adds, 'So I don't think it's about that.' They question why 'no one talking to Les Wexner?' and end with 'And' (truncated). The focus remains unclear.

The president stated the focus on the Epstein files is a "hoax" started and run by Democrats for four years, involving figures like Christopher Wray and Comey. He likened it to the "steel dossier" and the 51 intelligence agents, claiming it's all a Democratic-led hoax that some Republicans fall for. He said Democrats are bad for policy and picking electable candidates, citing a "communist" candidate in New York. He prefers to focus on his administration's achievements, like the economy and progress in the Middle East, rather than Epstein, who he says "had some very serious problems" and died three or four years ago. He believes those pursuing the Epstein issue are "stupid people" doing the Democrats' work.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and "was never a big factor." The speaker believes the case is "pretty boring stuff" and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. The speaker suggests that "only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like that going." They state that if there's credible information, "let them have it." The speaker then pivots to a question about AI.

The speaker claims the focus on the Epstein files is a "hoax" started and run by Democrats for four years, involving figures like Christopher Wray and Comey. They compare it to the Steele dossier and the 51 intelligence agents, labeling it all a "big hoax" perpetrated by Democrats, with some Republicans falling into the trap. The speaker believes this "Epstein hoax" distracts from discussing their achievements, such as the economy and progress in the Middle East. They express frustration that people are "doing the Democrats' work" by focusing on Epstein instead of these accomplishments.

Speaker 0 says that more than a decade ago, President Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago and was one of the few prominent people reportedly willing to help law enforcement go after Epstein, who is described as a disgusting child abuser and sex trafficker. They say this is common knowledge.

The president states that the focus on the "Epstein files" is a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats, with some Republicans foolishly falling into the trap. He claims the "hoax" started with the Steele dossier and the 51 intelligence agents. He accuses Democrats of being bad for policy and picking electable candidates, citing a "communist" running in New York who may win and "destroy the city." He would rather discuss his administration's achievements, such as the economy and progress in the Middle East, instead of focusing on Epstein. He believes those pursuing the "Epstein hoax" are doing the Democrats' work and are "stupid people."

"Mister president, I know you've urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story?" "He's dead for a long time." "I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is." "It's pretty boring stuff. It's sorted, but it's boring." "Don't forget, we went through years of the Mueller witch hunt and all of the different things, the steel dossier, which was all fake." "All that information was fake." "But credible information, let them give it." "Anything that's credible, I would say, let them have it." "I I think, well, really only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like like that going."

Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

"Your justice department is also sending some of the Epstein files over to the house oversight committee today." "Are you are you in support of them releasing all of them? It open? If they wanted to release people shouldn't be hurt, but I'm in support of keeping it totally open." "I couldn't care less." "The whole Epstein thing is a Democrat hoax." "So we had the greatest six months, seven months in the history of the presidency." "And the Democrats don't know what to do, so they keep bringing up that stuff." "The Bill Clinton was on his plane and went to the island supposedly 28 times." "You have Larry, whatever his name is, Summers, the head of Harvard, who was Jeffrey Epstein's best friend." "This is a democratic hoax to try and get the the significance of what we've done over the past seven months." "Nobody's ever seen anything like it." "They say it's number one in history."

The speaker asserts that the effort to release the Epstein files came directly from President Trump. They acknowledge that many people may have a hard time with this claim, but state that it is the truth. The speaker also says that Trump fought the hardest to stop these files from being released.

The speaker states he doesn't understand why his supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor in his life. He claims he doesn't understand the interest or fascination, especially since credible information has been given. He compares the situation to the "Mueller witch hunt" and the "steel dossier," which he claims was all fake. He finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. He suggests that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep the story alive, but says that if there is credible information, "let them have it."

Speaker 0: "I don't understand why it's a hostile act. I talked to president Clinton... I'm sorry, president, Trump back in 2009 and several times after that. He didn't think that it was a hoax then. In fact, he helped me. He got on the phone. He told me things that were helping our investigation." Speaker 1: "The only thing... Trump is the only person who, in 02/2009, picked up the phone and said, let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. I'll tell you what you need to know and was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information that checked out and that helped us. And then we didn't have to take a deposition of him." "So Do you know if there's any truth to James Patterson's claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar A Lago?" Speaker 0: "I've definitely heard that." Speaker 2: "Epstein was inappropriate with the member's daughter. I went to mister Trump and he threw him right out." Speaker 3: "So it's your understanding then that president Trump didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to?" Speaker 0: "That is correct." Speaker 2: "Epstein liked stars... He loaned Clinton his plane at least on four occasions and it was, it had to do with the foundation." Speaker 4: "The pilot said Trump was on the plane; it was actually a trip from Mar A Lago to New York, not to the island." Speaker 0: "And our investigation wasn't looking into him, but he was helping us then. He didn't treat this as a hoax. I want transparency." Speaker 3: "Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein? No."

The administration rejected a narrative that Republicans have believed for years, and that literally everybody believes. Only 21% of Americans think that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. This is less than the percentage of Americans who believe in space aliens. The problem is that their messaging has been all over the place. They don't understand why voters are so concerned about this issue.

The speaker doesn't understand the continued interest in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor in life. The speaker believes the credible information has already been given. They compare the situation to the Mueller investigation and the Steele dossier, which they claim was all fake. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. They suggest that only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep it going, but that any credible information should be released.

The speaker mentions that there have been accusations against President Trump regarding his involvement in certain activities, but Trump supporters tend to dismiss such claims. The speaker, who is a lawyer, states that they have no information or opinion on the validity of these claims. However, they do mention that in 2009, when they served subpoenas to various individuals, President Trump was the only person who cooperated and provided helpful information. The speaker is not aware of the truth behind James Patterson's claims about Trump kicking Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago.

The speaker is unsure why their supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and was never a big factor. The speaker believes the credible information has been given. They contrast the Epstein case with the "Mueller witch hunt" and the Steele dossier, which they claim was all fake. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. They suggest that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep it going. They state that if there is any credible information, it should be released.

Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein spoke at a Capitol Hill press conference, urging release of case files and documents. Thomas Massey, sponsor of a discharge petition to force a House vote on releasing the documents, says he doesn’t believe you’re implicated, but many of your friends and donors may; he says that’s why the justice department is redacting them and slow walking the release. "Are is the justice department protecting any friends or donors, sir?" The president replies: "This is a democrat hoax that never ends." He notes thousands of pages have been given and says the Epstein issue is to get people to talk about Epstein instead of the nation’s success. "I ended seven wars." He concludes: "we were subpoenaed to give files, and we’ve given thousands of pages of files" and asserts we should talk about the country’s greatness and the "most successful eight months of any president ever."

The president stated that the focus on the "Epstein files" is a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats, with some Republicans foolishly falling into the trap. He claims the hoax has been run by Democrats for four years, referencing Christopher Wray, Comey, and the Steele dossier. He believes Democrats are bad for policy and picking electable candidates, citing a "communist" running in New York. He would rather discuss his administration's achievements, such as the economy and progress in the Middle East, instead of focusing on Epstein. He reiterated that those pursuing the "Epstein hoax" are doing the Democrats' work and are "stupid people."

Discussion centers on why Epstein files aren’t public and reluctance; Tucker Carlson is mentioned. Speaker 1 says the president views it as "this is all a trap" and that it "reminds him of Russiagate"; "He had nothing to do with Epstein," and transparency "would have helped the country" and "the administration a lot." The other host wonders why fear of exposure matters. Speaker 1 testifies, "I knew Epstein. He did creepy stuff at my club. I kicked him out." Epstein was "always around" with figures like "Ahud Barak is living there. He's got Stephen Hawking and he's got members of the British So Royal on that level," and "half the people on television hung out with Epstein." He notes Epstein had contact with Israeli, US, and "most critically British intelligence" and ends, "There's nothing bad that happens that doesn't have British intelligence involved in it, I have noticed a lot."

The speaker argues that it is time for the country to shift its focus to something else. He states that nothing has emerged about him personally beyond the claim that there was a conspiracy against him, specifying that the conspiracy was “literally, by Epstein and other people.” In his view, this is evidence that there should be a move away from discussions about him and toward other national concerns. He emphasizes that the country should perhaps “get onto something else,” suggesting that public attention should be redirected to topics that matter more to the national discourse. In the same vein, the speaker raises a question about justice, addressing the question directly to the president. He asks, “Why would you say people don’t they have gotten justice,” signaling skepticism or disagreement with a statement that justice has been fully served. He frames the issue as something that matters to the public, asserting that the notion of justice is a concern “something that people care about.” The exchange implies a belief that the public’s sense of justice remains unsettled or unaddressed, despite the narrative that there has been justice or resolution. Overall, the speaker presents two intertwined points: first, a call to move the national conversation away from personal allegations and toward other issues; second, a probe into whether justice has been delivered to the people, highlighting that this is an area of public interest and concern. He references a conspiracy linked to Epstein as a central personal grievance while urging a broader national focus, and he questions the completeness of justice as perceived by the audience, urging the president to comment on whether the public has received justice. The tone combines a push for agenda-shifting with a critique of the current state of justice as seen by the speaker and, by extension, some portion of the public.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

Speaker 0 says it's "preposterous that we were talking about Hillary Clinton's emails again in the year 2025," that "they get activated," and that Trump won't be blamed for not releasing the Epstein files, "We spent years on this story." Speaker 1 counters, "No. Let let me you you had to take this story seriously for years, and it was false. It wasn't false." He asserts that "When Trump won in 2016, the intel community concluded that Russia didn't have a hand in his victory," but "Obama determined and wanted a new conclusion," sending "Brennan" to "come up with a new collusion," and insists "There was no proof." They claim "They amplified a false conclusion that Trump colluded with Russia in 2016." He adds, "The Democrats never cared about Epstein until they saw a political motivation," while noting "the right is more on top of Epstein" and that "We actually cared," concluding with "Save me your selective outrage."

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor. The speaker believes credible information has been given and references the Mueller investigation and steel dossier as examples of fake information. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed, suggesting only bad people and fake news want to keep it going. The speaker states that if there is credible information, it should be released. The speaker is then asked a question about AI.

Transcript centers on truth and why Epstein files should be public. They note both parties avoid real reasons. Speaker 1 says the president views it as “all a trap” and that it “reminds him of Russiagate”—an attempt by Democrats to ensnare him in a fake scandal; “he's not... never did anything creepy,” the speaker says. The speaker argues transparency would have helped “the country” and “the administration,” giving it credibility. They speculate why disclosure is feared: “could it be that Trump was there and he just doesn't wanna jeopardize his presidency even putting it out there?” Epstein is described as “the center of New York society for... decades.” The claim: “I don't think having dinner at his house or even necessarily going to his island is proof of a crime.” Finally, they note “Epstein had contact with Israeli intelligence” and “British intelligence”—“probably scarier than Mossad and CIA.”

The speaker denies reports of hosting a gathering of top advisors to discuss the Epstein situation, calling it "completely fake news." He asserts the report is a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats to divert attention from his administration's successful six months. He attributes the report to the Democrats and dismisses the situation as "total bullshit."