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Theo announces spring tour dates for the Return of the Rat tour: Toledo, Pittsburgh, Eugene, Kennewick, Seattle, Victoria (Canada), Belton, San Antonio, Durant, Amarillo, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Tallahassee, and Rosemont. Tickets are through theovon.com; avoid secondary sites to dodge higher prices. New merch returns: The Hitter Hunting Club collection and the Hitter Bait and Tackle tees at theovonstore.com. The episode is taped live in Austin, Texas at Media Pouch. Theo chats with Matt McCusker, who is performing in New York City this week and is one half of the Superhero Squad on Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast; Matt just marked five years of marriage. The conversation flows through a string of topics and riffs. They riff about steam rooms and gym culture, reminiscing about Radio Shack and Best Buy, and commenting on how customer service declined after COVID. They acknowledge frontline workers and nurses, and joke about DoorDash as heroes. They brainstorm hybrid businesses, suggesting steam rooms with barber shops, or shoe stores with barber services, even dog grooming, or mixing jiujitsu with other services. They fantasize about superpowers, joking about knowing every form of jiujitsu and about using unconventional self‑defense in public. The discussion veers into bathroom humor, travel, and practical tips. They joke about knowing whether a bathroom is fresh, discuss plane etiquette, and talk about handling bathroom breaks on a flight, including fair warnings to neighbors and trashing stigma around passing gas on planes. They compare bowel habits and frequency, and joke about hemorrhoids, long sits, and doosey moments. In the middle of the humor, the program plugs sponsors. Liquid I.V. offers hydration with 20% off the first order at liquidiv.com using code Theo; ShipStation helps scale e-commerce with a free 60‑day trial at shipstation.com using code Theo; Blue Chew promotes a chewable alternative with code Theo for a free first month. The merch and e‑commerce themes continue with a nod to Shopify, Shop Pay, and a notional $1 per month trial at shopify.com/theo. They pivot to politics and philosophy. They reference Ken Wilber’s holarchies and discuss the Green Wave versus the Orange Wave, noting shifts among conservatives toward inclusivity. They mention RFK, Joe Rogan’s influence on Trump exposure, and Dana White’s role in arranging the Trump interview. They remark on Call Her Daddy’s immense clips and the online dynamic of liberal versus conservative discourse, media, and campaigns. On the personal side, they talk marriage, parenting, and secrets learned from relationships. They discuss fighting fair, the value of couples therapy, and how to introduce tough topics without derailing conversations in front of kids. They recount early career misadventures with weed, paranoia, and the dangers of illegal schemes. Matt shares touring plans: New York City for the New York Comedy Festival at Town Hall, then Capital One Hall, with more dates through spring; all are listed on mattmccusker.com. They describe continuing podcast evolution, testing headset mics and podium formats for energy and flow, and they tease possible future guests. They close with appreciation for each other, look ahead to more episodes, and trade invites to return. The vibe stays light, funny, with honest talk about life, marriage, children, career, and the occasional trove of absurd stories.

Rick Glassman and the host dive into a freewheeling exploration of personal boundaries, communication, and the messy realities of modern relationships. The conversation threads through how people read signals, set boundaries, and negotiate comfort in both romantic and platonic contexts. They riff on comfort as a guiding principle for dating and friendships, comparing condom use as a metaphor for safety and presence in intimate moments to the more general need for spaces where honesty and boundaries can be stated openly. The two repeatedly emphasize the value of asking questions, checking in on another person’s feelings, and foregrounding safety and consent in a way that avoids coercion or overreach. A core strand is the tension between self-acceptance and growth: accepting one’s own limits while remaining curious about how to improve communication, and recognizing that self-work can both enhance connection and risk alienating others if done in a heavy-handed way. The guests unpack how misreads, stalled plans, and evolving boundaries shape dating trajectories, friendships, and even professional dynamics in media work. Throughout, there are personal anecdotes about misread cues, the fear of vulnerability, the art of delivering difficult feedback, and the practice of preemptively sharing context to avoid misunderstandings. The discussion also touches practical strategies, from using a concise “one-page introduction” to describe faults or preferences, to creating environments (like a living room podcast set) that lower defensiveness. The speakers reflect on how frequency and rhythm—presentness, pacing, and co-regulation—affect connection, and they debate the right degree of honesty versus tact in social exchange. The dialogue travels through humor, miscommunication, and the paradox of wanting to be seen while wanting others to see you accurately, ending on a note about inclusive, authentic conversation as a route to deeper relationships.

Joe Hudson discusses his week-long, sober intensive retreat and the transformative effects of opening the heart. The conversation centers on dismantling negative self-talk and the neurosis that softens when people learn to stay open in the face of potential hurt. Hudson explains that fear of love often drives people to protect themselves, leading to patterns where love is pursued yet tainted by guilt, jealousy, or criticism. The dialogue explores how experiences in the container of the retreat—where vulnerability is safe—can be carried into daily life and even into seemingly mundane settings like a Thai massage parlor, revealing how patterns shift once the relief of a controlled environment ends and real-world stimuli re-enter. The hosts dissect three patterns around recurring behaviors: attracting criticism, manipulating situations to invite it, or proving it exists, and they emphasize that living with an open heart requires, paradoxically, both gentleness and boundaries. A recurring theme is the relationship between pain and growth: going into pain instead of avoiding it is likened to physical training, with evidence from depression studies and personal anecdotes about rooting out fear through compassionate self-parenting and acceptance. They discuss the delicate balance between vulnerability and standing one’s ground, outlining practical boundary-setting that protects self-love while preserving connection. Audiences are guided to reframe anger as a signal for boundaries rather than a trigger for aggression, and to distinguish between clean boundary enforcement and power struggles. The dialogue also touches on the launch and content strategy of Hudson’s ventures, noting how caring leadership and transparent context-setting can mobilize teams and audiences without relying on fear or pressure. Throughout, the speakers converge on the idea that true change flows from internal alignment—congruence between thinking, feeling, and acting—rather than external achievement alone. The discussion culminates in reflections on fear, decision-making, and the pace of personal evolution, with repeated emphasis that enduring growth comes from embracing all emotions and inviting unconditional love into one’s life and work.

Theo details a massage at a long-time studio, where the therapist and her relatives push on his back and neck like they’re “trying to get a refrigerator through a tight doorway”; the private room has fake roses and candies. He describes the lean-forward setup and the teamwork of two bodies pressing in, joking about old barracks. In a second visit, a playful exchange occurs: “You wanna spill a dumplin’?” and “spill the dumplings” as he resists. He recalls another moment, a line about “monkey go pop pop?” The episode moves through music and sports: a Josh Kelly song “Hold Me My Lord” and “The Super Bowl happened. It was a boring game.” A badger howls in the rental’s backyard, its sound likened to a helium balloon. He shares that he fell off his sobriety about a month ago, stopped going to meetings, and drank to cope with pain; he’s trying to return to the program, stay with sober friends, and avoid risky situations. A BetterHelp ad follows, then remarks on Marilyn Manson allegations and media use of the n-word. Calls include Stephen from Reno announcing his newborn Theo, and Michael from Texas, who relapsed and seeks connection, with Theo reminding him it’s a journey. He closes on the power of small moments when someone cares and the role of God.

In this episode, Dax Shepard explores unusual massage experiences shared by listeners. One story involves a man who, on his honeymoon in Kerala, India, received a massage that escalated into an awkward situation when the therapist repeatedly massaged over his genitals, culminating in the application of a burning powder. The man, initially panicked, later found humor in the experience. Another guest, a massage therapist, recounted a troubling encounter with a client who disrobed prematurely and made inappropriate advances during the session. This led to a discussion about the challenges and ethical dilemmas faced in the massage industry, particularly regarding client behavior and safety. The episode highlights the complexities of massage therapy, including the blurred lines between professional and inappropriate conduct, and emphasizes the importance of maintaining boundaries in such intimate settings.