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Vaccines don't cause autism. The science is clear. Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines do not cause autism. I do not deny that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do with vaccines. We have thoroughly debunked any association between autism and these vaccines. Robert, it is nearly consensus in the scientific community that there's no link there. To deny a mountain of scientific evidence, which has already taught us that the combination of measles, mumps, rubella, or MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism, Vimerosal, an ethylmercury containing preservative that wasn't a number of vaccines doesn't cause autism, and that too many vaccines given too soon, if you will, doesn't also cause autism. We know that the schedule is safe. Are there peer reviewed scientific reports that indicate a link between No. Between vaccines and autism? No. Not only is there not a peer reviewed work, this is probably the most studied public health issue involving children. Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism. The Institutes of Medicine, the Centers for Disease Control have repeatedly investigated this. Vaccines do not cause autism. We don't need more research. At some point, enough is enough. It's fine to continue to collect data, but at some point, you have to take note for an answer. We're not sure what causes autism, but we know that vaccines do not. Mountains of evidence. No, you know, this has been looked at extensively. Nothing's been more studied in the world than this connection between vaccines and autism. We'd heard it. We've heard it for decades. You know, actually almost a century now, if you want to get into it. This has been the battle cry of the pharmaceutical industry and every shill that works for them. But whether you know it or not all the way back in 2020 for those of you that were watching then we actually disproved this myth right then. Debunked it with a lawsuit where we went at the CDC and said really if the head of your page on the CDC website says vaccines plural meaning all vaccines do not cause us to do we have that original website. This is what it said: vaccines do not cause autism. There it is. All vaccines doesn't say one of them or two of them all vaccines by the plural s at the end of vaccines. If vaccines do not cause autism will you please provide us with all of the evidence and studies that show that vaccines don't cause autism. Send us that evidence. Well they didn't and we sued them and we went to court. Back in 2020, we won the case. Here it looks like in the document. They gave us the list. It's actually 20 studies. 20 total studies make up the entire list of what they look to when they say that these childhood vaccines, the five, and the cumulative effects of them given in the first six months of life, do not cause autism. The first one is an MMR study. The second one an MMR and a DTaP study. The next ones are MMR, these four are MMR and Thimerosal studies. Then the next all the way through to 20 are all just Thimerosal studies. Lastly, we have one antigen study. Of the 20 studies, the first MMR studies are not in the first six months of life; Thimerosal studies show none of the vaccines in the first six months of life had Thimerosal. There was only one study relevant to the first six months of life, the IOM review of the DTaP vaccine, and it said there are no studies that prove or disprove the association with autism. Therefore, that was the only one that was relevant to the first six months of life, and it proved that they had no answers. And so for everyone that's ever sent Mountain of Evidence, that's been a lie. We won in court. It's a lie. You can take that to the bank. And actually just months after winning that lawsuit, that was in May, by August they pulled down the statement vaccines do not cause autism. We celebrated it but five months later it went back up and we've been stuck there with this propaganda statement that have no basis in science up until last night when this happened to the website. Let's see the new page. Here it is. It now says autism and vaccines and right under that it has the key points. So we read those key points. The claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism, meaning those vaccines in the first six months of life. Meaning the IOM lawsuit that proved that. Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities. HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links. It does have an explanatory statement I want to read right now. It says this about why you will still see it with an asterisk the header vaccines do not cause autism has not been completely removed due to an agreement with the chair of the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee that it would remain on the CDC website. Apparently, this was that backroom deal that was made with Senator Cassidy, of course, when Robert Kennedy Jr. was up there. But now you can see on the page it is clear we are making the statement or it's being made by the CDC that this is not a scientific statement and so ultimately this is a massive change. I tweeted out about it today and to every parent of an autistic child that's been out there. For every one of you that did interviews, whether in the film Vaxxed or when we toured the nation and for everyone that's ever been gaslit, the days of gaslighting are over. We are now moving into science-based, evidence-based statements on the CDC website. It's a beautiful day.

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The speaker claims that the evidence around vaccines and autism in the U.S. consists of two flawed and fraudulent CDC studies. One study allegedly showed a statistically significant effect of the MMR vaccine, with 67% more boys receiving the vaccine on time being diagnosed with autism compared to those who waited until age three. The speaker says a whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, came forward with this information in 2013 and 2014. The speaker also alleges that the Verstraten study in 2003 is flawed and fraudulent, accusing them of cherry-picking information from the Vaccine Safety Datalink. The speaker asserts there is a significant gap in the science around vaccines and autism, stating that safety cannot be determined by looking at one vaccine or component in isolation.

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In 2011 the IOM issued a vaccine-safety report, 'Adverse Effects of Evidence of Causality,' examining 158 serious injuries after vaccination. The speaker notes they were consulting for Sanofi, Merck, GSK, and others, not disclosed in the report. Tdap is on the childhood schedule and is given to pregnant women. On autism, the IOM concluded, 'The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid, or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism.' The evidence doesn't exist to show whether DTaP or Tdap do or do not cause autism. 'There is not evidence to, say a million different things. We have no suspicions, at least I don't, that, autism is caused by DTaP.' 'absence of evidence is no proof whatsoever.' He could tell parents that DTaP, Tdap does not cause autism, and, 'I'm also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy.'

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The speaker questions the safety of 5,000 micrograms for children under six. They claim many vaccine trials use an aluminum adjuvant containing placebo or other aluminum-containing vaccines as the control group. The speaker argues that because the control group receives aluminum, the study is invalidated. They further claim that countries with less aggressive vaccine schedules do not have significant trends in autistic diagnoses. They state that the Amish community, which is largely unvaccinated, has extremely low rates of autism diagnoses.

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We're discussing the presence of mercury in vaccinations, specifically thimerosal, which hasn't been tested by health agencies since its initial test in 1929 on 27 dying meningitis patients. That test found no correlation between their deaths and mercury. Despite its long history of use, there's no conclusive evidence proving its safety. The Institute of Medicine suggests rejecting a causal link between mercury and autism or neurological disorders, but cannot guarantee that trace amounts won't harm children. While one speaker believes it doesn't have the capacity to cause damage, they admit it's impossible to make definitive statements about every child and every dose.

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The speaker discusses the length of clinical trials needed to determine if vaccines cause autism in children under 18 months. They mention that autism is generally diagnosed within the first couple of years of life and is believed to be a prenatal event. The speaker also states that vaccine trials typically require a year of follow-up. When asked about the number of children needed in clinical trials to detect autism and the trial duration, the speaker cannot provide specific numbers. They agree that the trials may not have been designed to determine if vaccines cause autism and suggest that larger database studies are needed. The speaker emphasizes that they are not stating vaccines cause autism.

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The discussion addresses whether vaccines cause autism and whether relevant agencies will investigate this. Regarding the MMR vaccine, studies have failed to find a causal link to autism, including a large Danish study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children over years, which showed no difference in autism rates. For other vaccines like polio, there's less research specifically examining links to autism. While the speaker doesn't know the full literature extent, they haven't seen the same level of evidence for vaccines other than MMR. Biologically, it's considered unlikely that vaccines are the main reason for the documented rise in autism.

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Pediatricians recommend getting both the valent and neococcal vaccines within the first three months of a baby's life. However, there are concerns about potential neurological damage and permanent effects. The incidence of these issues is not clear, as reactions are often not recognized or attributed to something else. Some children have experienced serious problems, including autism, which some believe is correlated with vaccines. However, the scientific community has dismissed this correlation. Vaccines have been crucial in eradicating diseases like polio, and without them, these diseases could resurface. The safety and effectiveness of vaccines are supported by numerous studies, although some claim they can cause tumors and other health issues.

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Speaker 0 argues that a critical missing piece in autism research is vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, and notes there are six good studies to rely on. They claim these studies have been systematically suppressed and ignored by the mainstream media and the medical establishment. The summary of specific study claims is as follows: - Two studies by Gallier and Goodman show that the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine significantly increases autism risk. - Three studies by Anthony Mawson confirmed that vaccination increases the odds of developing autism by at least 4.2-fold. - Preterm birth coupled with vaccination increases the odds of neurodevelopmental disability by more than 12-fold compared to preterm birth without vaccination. - A study by Hooker and Miller published in 2021 found that vaccination increases autism risk five-fold. - Vaccination in the absence of breastfeeding increases autism risk 12.5-fold. - Vaccination in addition to cesarean birth increases autism risk 18.7-fold. The speaker states that after conducting a systematic review of a thousand studies, their belief is that the autism and chronic disease epidemics are primarily caused by toxicants, mostly from vaccines and about a dozen additional toxicants.

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The speaker discusses the complexity of vaccines and the correlation with autism rates. They compare the number of vaccines in the US to other countries and question why certain vaccines are not widely used. They criticize limited studies on vaccine safety and call for more thorough research. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the details and not dismissing concerns about vaccine safety. The speaker expresses frustration with those who do not thoroughly investigate the issue. Ultimately, the focus is on finding ways to help children without causing unnecessary conflict.

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Checklist for summary approach: - Identify the core topics: trial design and safety monitoring, absence of control group, list of reported adverse events, causality vs association, need for placebo-controlled trials, regulatory and review positions (CDC, IOM), and final stance on vaccine safety. - Preserve key factual claims and phrases (e.g., monitoring duration, lack of control group, listed adverse events, causality requirements). - Emphasize any surprising or unique points (no pre-licensure placebo trial, IOM stance on data, final assertion about safety assumptions). - Exclude filler, repetition, and off-topic chatter; keep a neutral, fact-focused summary. - Translate only if needed; retain precise wording where quoted. - Keep the summary within 378-473 words. Summary: In the discussion about Recombivax HB, the speaker confirms the product and its labeling, noting that Section 6.1 covers pre-licensure clinical trial experience and that safety was monitored after each dose for five days. It is stated that five days is not long enough to detect autoimmune issues or neurological disorders arising after vaccination. The conversation also points out that there is no control group in those trials. Turning to Section 6.2, the nervous system disorders subsection acknowledges reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome and multiple sclerosis, including exacerbation, myelitis including transverse myelitis, seizures and febrile seizures, peripheral neuropathy including Bell’s palsy, muscle weakness, hypothesia, and encephalitis. It is emphasized that these reports are included because they have been reported to authorities as occurring after vaccination, not because they prove the vaccine caused those reactions. To establish causality, a randomized placebo-controlled study would be needed, but none was performed for this hepatitis B vaccine before licensure. Without a control group, evaluating whether a phenomenon in the vaccine group is related is not possible. A speaker comments that the broader issue is that such safety placebo trials were not done before licensure; once injuries are observed, they argue that it’s unethical to conduct placebo trials, and doctors may claim there are no studies showing the injuries are caused by the vaccine, leading to an assumption of safety. The discussion then touches on CDC guidance, with a question about agreeing with the recommendation that babies receive hepatitis B on the first day of life. The responder concedes that hepatitis B doesn’t cause encephalitis “in my opinion.” The IOM review is cited as having determined it “couldn’t find science to support a causal determination one way or another.” In the absence of data, the conclusion cited is that “there’s no proof that causation exists,” which is distinguished from saying it doesn’t cause it. The transcript closes with a provocative remark: “Vaccine safety is not based on science and data. And that is the stalemate we find ourselves in.”

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The speakers discuss the need for careful preclinical studies before licensing vaccines. They mention that large studies covering different age groups are necessary, but these data often come out later after the vaccine has been used in thousands or millions of people. The conversation then focuses on whether DTaP or Tdap vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) concludes that the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between these vaccines and autism. While there are no studies showing a link, one study by anti-vaccination figures is mentioned, but it lacks legitimacy. The speakers emphasize the absence of positive evidence and the importance of administering vaccines to children. They also mention that there are no complaints about DTaP causing leprosy. The IOM's scientific review was conducted due to complaints about vaccines causing autism. Despite the lack of conclusive evidence, the pediatrician is willing to tell parents that vaccines do not cause autism or leprosy because they prioritize the child's health. The IOM did not review whether DTaP causes sleep issues.

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The speaker discusses the length of clinical trials needed to determine if vaccines cause autism in children under 18 months. They mention that autism is generally diagnosed within the first couple of years of life and is believed to be a prenatal event. The speaker also states that vaccine trials typically require a year of follow-up. When asked about the number of children needed in clinical trials to detect autism caused by vaccines, the speaker cannot provide an exact number but suggests that larger numbers are necessary for rare events like autism. They agree that the trials may not have been designed to determine if vaccines cause autism and that larger database studies are needed. The speaker also mentions the need for longer tracking of safety to assess autism risk.

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Autism is caused by vaccines, according to the speaker. The CDC's VirTrak study from 1989 showed a 1350% elevated risk for autism among children who received the hepatitis B vaccine in their first 30 days. A series of 13 studies were allegedly done by people paid by the CDC to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism. The chief scientist, Paul Thornsen, is a fugitive wanted by Interpol for stealing millions from the CDC that he claimed to use for the study. His study is considered fraudulent but has not been retracted. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking autism and neurological injuries to vaccines, citing a book with 1,400 references and over 400 studies. The speaker believes the CDC is a dishonest organization owned by the pharmaceutical industry and promotes propaganda that vaccines don't cause autism.

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Mainstream media claims that the link between autism and vaccines has been debunked through studies. However, these studies only examined the MMR vaccine and thimerosal. The Institute of Medicine stated that vaccines administered during the first six months of life have never been studied for a link to autism. The vaccines given in the first six months include DTaP, hep B, and pneumococcal. The only vaccine studied was DTaP, and the study showed a link to autism. However, the Institute of Medicine discounted the study because it was based on the CDC's VAERS system, which they deemed too unreliable for studying vaccine injury. They stated that the CDC's only surveillance system is inadequate for conducting reliable studies.

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Kendall asks for an explanation of the process by which the MMR vaccine causes autism, referencing the movie Vaxxed. Speaker 2 responds that they are currently researching those questions, as parents and physicians have reported children developing autism immediately after the MMR vaccine. The speaker claims studies that should have been done long ago were not. Instead, the speaker alleges that captured researchers at the CDC, mainly people who work for the pharmaceutical industry, produced bad epidemiological studies. The speaker asserts that these studies deliberately avoided comparing health outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated groups. Speaker 0 states that this is one of the things they are studying now with gold standard science. Speaker 2 confirms they are doing gold standard science, which includes replication. They are allocating about 20% of their budget to replicating studies. Speaker 0 explains replication as an independent group repeating a study with the same parameters and data sets to achieve the same result. Speaker 2 agrees.

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The speaker states they searched for years for a pre-licensing safety trial of the 72 vaccine doses effectively mandated for American children. They claim that every other medication requires a safety trial comparing health outcomes in a placebo group versus a vaccine group before FDA licensing. The speaker assumed this was also done for vaccines. They state they found out that vaccines were exempt from this requirement.

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In this video, the speaker discusses a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) on vaccine safety. The speaker, who worked for major vaccine makers, was involved in the review process. The IOM report examined the link between vaccines and autism, concluding that there is inadequate evidence to accept or reject a causal relationship. The speaker asserts that vaccines do not cause autism, despite the lack of evidence. The conversation also touches on the administration of Tdap vaccines to babies and pregnant women. The speaker dismisses claims about vaccines causing leprosy and suggests that the review process was necessary due to numerous complaints. The video ends with a question about using orphans for studies.

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"There is not one longitudinal safety study on hepatitis b against unvaccinated kids versus vaccinated kids, inert placebo, does not exist." "The two studies that are cited most often, one is for MMR." "Hep B is not involved." "They're like, we did a huge study about this. No autism." "And I'm not suggesting there's a link. I'm simply saying that huge study is only MMR." "The other study they love to talk about involves thimerosal." "Not everything else about the hepatitis B vaccine." "There the there the reality is it's not settled science. Just it's okay." "Vaccines have like, we could but to even say that, anti vaxxer."

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A film festival featured a documentary about vaccines by Del Bigtree. The speaker mentions an interview where the host tried to shut down a discussion about the documentary. The interviewee has an autistic son and believes there's a link between vaccines and autism. One speaker questions why people can't ask about the potential link between vaccines and autism, noting that an additive was removed from vaccines, though it supposedly had nothing to do with autism. The World Council For Health urges parents to consider a "safer to wait" approach, deferring the childhood vaccine schedule. Five studies allegedly show that unvaccinated children are healthier, with lower rates of food allergies, asthma, dermatitis, need for ear tubes, attention deficit disorder, Asperger's, and autism. The speaker concludes that excessive vaccination is likely harming children.

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The speaker states that previous CDC studies on autism were epidemiological and designed to avoid finding a link. They claim the Institute of Medicine criticized the CDC's vaccine schedule decision-making, alleging the ASIP panel was captured by industry due to financial entanglements. The speaker says the Institute of Medicine recommended various studies, including animal models, which the CDC allegedly ignored, opting instead for manipulated epidemiological studies. They claim these studies didn't compare fully vaccinated to unvaccinated groups. According to the speaker, a 1999 CDC study led by Thomas Verstraten found an 1135% elevated autism risk in vaccinated children. They allege the CDC concealed and manipulated this study to bury the link by removing older children from the data and using other statistical tricks. The speaker asserts that over 100 external studies indicate a link between vaccines and autism.

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The speaker is questioned about his stance on childhood vaccines, with many scientific and medical organizations disagreeing with him. The audience asks how they can help him align with science. The speaker clarifies that he is not anti-vaccine, but believes vaccines should undergo safety testing like other medicines. He criticizes the lack of prelicensing placebo-controlled trials for vaccines and cites examples of potential risks and lack of long-term studies. The other speaker argues that there is evidence of vaccines preventing diseases and highlights the importance of distinguishing between association and causation. The speaker emphasizes the need for good science and questions the trustworthiness of pharmaceutical companies. The conversation ends with a discussion about the speaker's family not supporting his views on vaccines.

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Will you assure mothers that the measles and hepatitis B vaccines do not cause autism? If the data supports it, I will. The vaccine discussion is oversimplified. Parents are concerned about giving a hepatitis B vaccine to a newborn when the disease is primarily transmitted through drug use and sex. I vaccinated my children but chose to delay the hepatitis B vaccine until school age. There needs to be an honest debate about vaccines, especially regarding COVID-19, where risks differ significantly between age groups. Healthy children are at minimal risk from COVID. We should remain open-minded about vaccine safety and autism, as we don't fully understand its causes. Science evolves, and we must be humble in our conclusions. The rationale for immediate vaccination against hepatitis B exists, but if a mother's status is known, vaccination can be delayed.

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Exhibit 22 is an excerpt from the IOM's report discussing whether DTaP or TDaP cause autism. The IOM concluded that there is inadequate evidence to determine a causal relationship. Speaker 1 points out that there are no studies showing that vaccines cause autism, except for one study by Guyer and Guyer, who lack legitimacy. They emphasize the need for a proper study involving controlled administration of vaccines. Speaker 1, as a physician, cannot definitively say vaccines do not cause autism, but they believe they do not. Speaker 0 questions if it is appropriate to make that claim without scientific evidence. Speaker 1 argues that they prioritize the child's health and are willing to say vaccines do not cause autism. The IOM did not review if DTaP causes leprosy.

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VACCINES: HONEST ANSWERS with Dr. Joel Warsh
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The episode presents a wide‑ranging, data‑driven discussion about vaccines with Dr. Joel Warsh, a pediatrician and epidemiology trained clinician who authored a book aimed at balancing vaccine questions with evidence. The conversation centers on how vaccine safety is communicated, the medical community’s approach to risk, and why concerns persist among parents who notice rising autoimmune and allergic conditions, chronic illnesses, and debates over autism. Warsh stresses that vaccines are not anti‑vaccine; rather, the aim is open dialogue, rigorous safety review, and better public understanding of benefits versus harms. He notes that many questions get short shrift in public discourse, and he advocates transparency, nuance, and ongoing research rather than absolutist declarations about safety being “debunked.” The dialogue dives into core concepts of safety testing and trial design, explaining the difference between inert placebo controls and comparisons against other vaccines or existing vaccines. The guests discuss how safety signals are collected, the role of VAERS, and whether long‑term, large‑scale data can convincingly rule out rare adverse events. They debate the interpretation of data around autism, noting the scarcity of comprehensive, prospective studies across all vaccines beyond MMR and thimerosal and arguing that unanswered questions should prompt more research rather than definitive dismissals. A substantial portion is devoted to the ethical and societal questions of mandates, coercion, and herd immunity. The hosts explore how individual risk assessments intersect with the social contract to protect vulnerable populations, acknowledging that definitions of “safe” and “enough” vary widely. They discuss vaccine technologies—old versus new—and adjuvants, including aluminum and trace metals, as well as the development of mRNA vaccines, their testing history, and what “emergency use” really means. Throughout, the conversation emphasizes the importance of listening to skeptical voices, testing assumptions, and pursuing healthier, safer vaccines while avoiding vilification of dissenting views. The episode concludes with calls for more balanced media coverage and collaborative dialogue among scientists, clinicians, policymakers, and parents to restore trust and improve vaccine safety in practice.
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