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Vaccines don't cause autism. The science is clear. Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines do not cause autism. I do not deny that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do with vaccines. We have thoroughly debunked any association between autism and these vaccines. Robert, it is nearly consensus in the scientific community that there's no link there. To deny a mountain of scientific evidence, which has already taught us that the combination of measles, mumps, rubella, or MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism, Vimerosal, an ethylmercury containing preservative that wasn't a number of vaccines doesn't cause autism, and that too many vaccines given too soon, if you will, doesn't also cause autism. We know that the schedule is safe. Are there peer reviewed scientific reports that indicate a link between No. Between vaccines and autism? No. Not only is there not a peer reviewed work, this is probably the most studied public health issue involving children. Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism. The Institutes of Medicine, the Centers for Disease Control have repeatedly investigated this. Vaccines do not cause autism. We don't need more research. At some point, enough is enough. It's fine to continue to collect data, but at some point, you have to take note for an answer. We're not sure what causes autism, but we know that vaccines do not. Mountains of evidence. No, you know, this has been looked at extensively. Nothing's been more studied in the world than this connection between vaccines and autism. We'd heard it. We've heard it for decades. You know, actually almost a century now, if you want to get into it. This has been the battle cry of the pharmaceutical industry and every shill that works for them. But whether you know it or not all the way back in 2020 for those of you that were watching then we actually disproved this myth right then. Debunked it with a lawsuit where we went at the CDC and said really if the head of your page on the CDC website says vaccines plural meaning all vaccines do not cause us to do we have that original website. This is what it said: vaccines do not cause autism. There it is. All vaccines doesn't say one of them or two of them all vaccines by the plural s at the end of vaccines. If vaccines do not cause autism will you please provide us with all of the evidence and studies that show that vaccines don't cause autism. Send us that evidence. Well they didn't and we sued them and we went to court. Back in 2020, we won the case. Here it looks like in the document. They gave us the list. It's actually 20 studies. 20 total studies make up the entire list of what they look to when they say that these childhood vaccines, the five, and the cumulative effects of them given in the first six months of life, do not cause autism. The first one is an MMR study. The second one an MMR and a DTaP study. The next ones are MMR, these four are MMR and Thimerosal studies. Then the next all the way through to 20 are all just Thimerosal studies. Lastly, we have one antigen study. Of the 20 studies, the first MMR studies are not in the first six months of life; Thimerosal studies show none of the vaccines in the first six months of life had Thimerosal. There was only one study relevant to the first six months of life, the IOM review of the DTaP vaccine, and it said there are no studies that prove or disprove the association with autism. Therefore, that was the only one that was relevant to the first six months of life, and it proved that they had no answers. And so for everyone that's ever sent Mountain of Evidence, that's been a lie. We won in court. It's a lie. You can take that to the bank. And actually just months after winning that lawsuit, that was in May, by August they pulled down the statement vaccines do not cause autism. We celebrated it but five months later it went back up and we've been stuck there with this propaganda statement that have no basis in science up until last night when this happened to the website. Let's see the new page. Here it is. It now says autism and vaccines and right under that it has the key points. So we read those key points. The claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism, meaning those vaccines in the first six months of life. Meaning the IOM lawsuit that proved that. Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities. HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links. It does have an explanatory statement I want to read right now. It says this about why you will still see it with an asterisk the header vaccines do not cause autism has not been completely removed due to an agreement with the chair of the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee that it would remain on the CDC website. Apparently, this was that backroom deal that was made with Senator Cassidy, of course, when Robert Kennedy Jr. was up there. But now you can see on the page it is clear we are making the statement or it's being made by the CDC that this is not a scientific statement and so ultimately this is a massive change. I tweeted out about it today and to every parent of an autistic child that's been out there. For every one of you that did interviews, whether in the film Vaxxed or when we toured the nation and for everyone that's ever been gaslit, the days of gaslighting are over. We are now moving into science-based, evidence-based statements on the CDC website. It's a beautiful day.

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The speaker claims that the evidence around vaccines and autism in the U.S. consists of two flawed and fraudulent CDC studies. One study allegedly showed a statistically significant effect of the MMR vaccine, with 67% more boys receiving the vaccine on time being diagnosed with autism compared to those who waited until age three. The speaker says a whistleblower, Dr. William Thompson, came forward with this information in 2013 and 2014. The speaker also alleges that the Verstraten study in 2003 is flawed and fraudulent, accusing them of cherry-picking information from the Vaccine Safety Datalink. The speaker asserts there is a significant gap in the science around vaccines and autism, stating that safety cannot be determined by looking at one vaccine or component in isolation.

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The speaker questions the safety of 5,000 micrograms for children under six. They claim many vaccine trials use an aluminum adjuvant containing placebo or other aluminum-containing vaccines as the control group. The speaker argues that because the control group receives aluminum, the study is invalidated. They further claim that countries with less aggressive vaccine schedules do not have significant trends in autistic diagnoses. They state that the Amish community, which is largely unvaccinated, has extremely low rates of autism diagnoses.

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The discussion addresses whether vaccines cause autism and whether relevant agencies will investigate this. Regarding the MMR vaccine, studies have failed to find a causal link to autism, including a large Danish study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children over years, which showed no difference in autism rates. For other vaccines like polio, there's less research specifically examining links to autism. While the speaker doesn't know the full literature extent, they haven't seen the same level of evidence for vaccines other than MMR. Biologically, it's considered unlikely that vaccines are the main reason for the documented rise in autism.

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The speaker asks if there has been a study comparing the health outcomes of children following the CDC vaccination schedule and those who are unvaccinated. The other speaker says they are not aware of such a study and suggests it may be considered bad malpractice not to vaccinate a child. They discuss the possibility of a retrospective study using the Vaccine Safety Datalink, but note the need to control for confounders. The speaker presents an exhibit showing higher rates of health conditions in vaccinated children and suggests the need for larger studies to confirm or refute these findings. The other speaker agrees.

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The speaker believes someone is serious about MAHA and concerned that vaccines cause autism, a claim he previously made but then stopped. Robert Kennedy also believes this and commissioned a study of existing data, specifically US government datasets like CMS, Medicare, and Medicaid. The study aims to detect a connection between the expansion of the vaccine schedule and the rise in autism. While a connection cannot be definitively stated, it seems likely to the speaker, and the president is reportedly concerned about it.

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Speaker 0 argues that a critical missing piece in autism research is vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, and notes there are six good studies to rely on. They claim these studies have been systematically suppressed and ignored by the mainstream media and the medical establishment. The summary of specific study claims is as follows: - Two studies by Gallier and Goodman show that the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine significantly increases autism risk. - Three studies by Anthony Mawson confirmed that vaccination increases the odds of developing autism by at least 4.2-fold. - Preterm birth coupled with vaccination increases the odds of neurodevelopmental disability by more than 12-fold compared to preterm birth without vaccination. - A study by Hooker and Miller published in 2021 found that vaccination increases autism risk five-fold. - Vaccination in the absence of breastfeeding increases autism risk 12.5-fold. - Vaccination in addition to cesarean birth increases autism risk 18.7-fold. The speaker states that after conducting a systematic review of a thousand studies, their belief is that the autism and chronic disease epidemics are primarily caused by toxicants, mostly from vaccines and about a dozen additional toxicants.

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The speaker discusses the complexity of vaccines and the correlation with autism rates. They compare the number of vaccines in the US to other countries and question why certain vaccines are not widely used. They criticize limited studies on vaccine safety and call for more thorough research. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the details and not dismissing concerns about vaccine safety. The speaker expresses frustration with those who do not thoroughly investigate the issue. Ultimately, the focus is on finding ways to help children without causing unnecessary conflict.

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Vaccines cause autism, according to the speaker. They claim that a graph showing the percentage of vaccinated children versus the age of their first vaccination indicates a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. The speaker also suggests that there is a significant increase in autism incidence among children who receive the vaccine between 12 and 18 months compared to those who receive it after three years. They argue that the CDC refuses to conduct a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study because the results would reveal a high risk. The speaker questions the credibility of a study used to dismiss the vaccine-autism connection and calls for changes in vaccination policies.

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The speaker claims epidemiological studies are easily manipulated and that proper studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated groups are lacking, except for a CDC study in 1999. This CDC study, led by Thomas Verstraten, allegedly compared children who received the hepatitis vaccine within the first thirty days of life to those vaccinated later or not at all. The speaker asserts the study found a 1,135% elevated risk of autism in vaccinated children, which "shocked" researchers. The speaker alleges the CDC then kept the study secret and manipulated it through five iterations to bury the link.

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The speakers discuss the need for careful preclinical studies before licensing vaccines. They mention that large studies covering different age groups are necessary, but these data often come out later after the vaccine has been used in thousands or millions of people. The conversation then focuses on whether DTaP or Tdap vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) concludes that the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between these vaccines and autism. While there are no studies showing a link, one study by anti-vaccination figures is mentioned, but it lacks legitimacy. The speakers emphasize the absence of positive evidence and the importance of administering vaccines to children. They also mention that there are no complaints about DTaP causing leprosy. The IOM's scientific review was conducted due to complaints about vaccines causing autism. Despite the lack of conclusive evidence, the pediatrician is willing to tell parents that vaccines do not cause autism or leprosy because they prioritize the child's health. The IOM did not review whether DTaP causes sleep issues.

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The speaker discusses the length of clinical trials needed to determine if vaccines cause autism in children under 18 months. They mention that autism is generally diagnosed within the first couple of years of life and is believed to be a prenatal event. The speaker also states that vaccine trials typically require a year of follow-up. When asked about the number of children needed in clinical trials to detect autism caused by vaccines, the speaker cannot provide an exact number but suggests that larger numbers are necessary for rare events like autism. They agree that the trials may not have been designed to determine if vaccines cause autism and that larger database studies are needed. The speaker also mentions the need for longer tracking of safety to assess autism risk.

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The speaker discusses the misconception that vaccines are always beneficial and highlights the lower under-five mortality rates in other countries with fewer vaccines. They question why certain vaccines, like flu and varicella, are not widely adopted in other countries and raise concerns about the correlation between vaccines and autism. Another speaker emphasizes the need for an open debate on this topic and criticizes the limited number of vaccines and ingredients studied in relation to autism. They express frustration with doctors who dismiss the potential link between vaccines and autism without thoroughly examining the research. The speaker urges for a more collaborative approach to help children and criticizes those who antagonize the medical community.

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Think about what we've done with autism. Right? There's a whole big push of finding answers for autism. The problem with autism. It's not a one answer. No, it's a myriad of answers. It's really risk factors. What are the risk factors that puts my kid at risk for autism? And the risk factors could be you gave your kid antibiotics, could be mom was drinking a lot of alcohol during pregnancy, could be mom was stressed during pregnancy, could be maybe something in the vaccine. Right? But you can't talk about that because that kills, that starts hesitancy, that creates a narrative change, but we have to talk about that. We have to look at all the risk factors so we could say, okay, antibiotics on their own is not going to create autism because you have seen kids that took antibiotics and didn't get autism. Vaccines on their own are not going to create autism because we've seen kids that were vaccinated and are fine and never got autism. However, what are the cumulative risk factors?

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Autism is caused by vaccines, according to the speaker. The CDC's VirTrak study from 1989 showed a 1350% elevated risk for autism among children who received the hepatitis B vaccine in their first 30 days. A series of 13 studies were allegedly done by people paid by the CDC to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism. The chief scientist, Paul Thornsen, is a fugitive wanted by Interpol for stealing millions from the CDC that he claimed to use for the study. His study is considered fraudulent but has not been retracted. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking autism and neurological injuries to vaccines, citing a book with 1,400 references and over 400 studies. The speaker believes the CDC is a dishonest organization owned by the pharmaceutical industry and promotes propaganda that vaccines don't cause autism.

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Designing a clinical trial for a vaccine given to children under 18 months to determine if it causes autism requires a long follow-up period. Autism is typically diagnosed within the first two years, and many theories suggest it is a prenatal condition. Vaccine trials usually have a follow-up period of about a year. The number of children needed in trials to detect autism is unclear, but larger sample sizes are necessary for rare events. The trials for vaccines like MMR were likely not designed to assess autism risk adequately. A longer follow-up period and larger sample sizes would be needed to capture enough cases. Ultimately, the trials did not sufficiently rule out a link between vaccines and autism.

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The speakers discuss the need for careful preclinical studies before licensing vaccines. They mention that large studies covering different age groups are necessary, but these data often come later after the vaccine has been used in thousands or millions of people. The conversation then focuses on whether DTaP or Tdap vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) concludes that the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between these vaccines and autism. While there are no studies showing a link, one study by anti-vaccination figures is mentioned, but it lacks legitimacy. The speakers emphasize that there is no positive evidence to disprove the link. However, as a physician, one speaker states that vaccines do not cause autism and that they prioritize the health of the child over waiting for conclusive scientific evidence. The discussion also briefly mentions the possibility of DTaP causing leprosy, although there are no complaints about it. The IOM's review did not cover this topic.

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Kendall asks for an explanation of the process by which the MMR vaccine causes autism, referencing the movie Vaxxed. Speaker 2 responds that they are currently researching those questions, as parents and physicians have reported children developing autism immediately after the MMR vaccine. The speaker claims studies that should have been done long ago were not. Instead, the speaker alleges that captured researchers at the CDC, mainly people who work for the pharmaceutical industry, produced bad epidemiological studies. The speaker asserts that these studies deliberately avoided comparing health outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated groups. Speaker 0 states that this is one of the things they are studying now with gold standard science. Speaker 2 confirms they are doing gold standard science, which includes replication. They are allocating about 20% of their budget to replicating studies. Speaker 0 explains replication as an independent group repeating a study with the same parameters and data sets to achieve the same result. Speaker 2 agrees.

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The speaker states they searched for years for a pre-licensing safety trial of the 72 vaccine doses effectively mandated for American children. They claim that every other medication requires a safety trial comparing health outcomes in a placebo group versus a vaccine group before FDA licensing. The speaker assumed this was also done for vaccines. They state they found out that vaccines were exempt from this requirement.

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In this video, the speaker discusses a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) on vaccine safety. The speaker, who worked for major vaccine makers, was involved in the review process. The IOM report examined the link between vaccines and autism, concluding that there is inadequate evidence to accept or reject a causal relationship. The speaker asserts that vaccines do not cause autism, despite the lack of evidence. The conversation also touches on the administration of Tdap vaccines to babies and pregnant women. The speaker dismisses claims about vaccines causing leprosy and suggests that the review process was necessary due to numerous complaints. The video ends with a question about using orphans for studies.

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The speaker states that previous CDC studies on autism were epidemiological and designed to avoid finding a link. They claim the Institute of Medicine criticized the CDC's vaccine schedule decision-making, alleging the ASIP panel was captured by industry due to financial entanglements. The speaker says the Institute of Medicine recommended various studies, including animal models, which the CDC allegedly ignored, opting instead for manipulated epidemiological studies. They claim these studies didn't compare fully vaccinated to unvaccinated groups. According to the speaker, a 1999 CDC study led by Thomas Verstraten found an 1135% elevated autism risk in vaccinated children. They allege the CDC concealed and manipulated this study to bury the link by removing older children from the data and using other statistical tricks. The speaker asserts that over 100 external studies indicate a link between vaccines and autism.

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Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about the lack of clinical trial data for the MMR vaccine. Speaker 1 insists that the vaccine was extensively tested before being licensed and that millions of doses have been used. Speaker 0 asks for proof of pre-licensure clinical trials, but Speaker 1 only refers to a book and mentions studies done in the 1960s. Speaker 0 argues that the data provided is not sufficient and questions the absence of a placebo group. Speaker 1 admits uncertainty about the inclusion of control groups but maintains that safety assessments were conducted. Speaker 0 concludes that no randomized placebo-controlled study exists for the MMR vaccine. Speaker 1 agrees to provide additional information after the deposition.

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Exhibit 22 is an excerpt from the IOM's report discussing whether DTaP or TDaP cause autism. The IOM concluded that there is inadequate evidence to determine a causal relationship. Speaker 1 points out that there are no studies showing that vaccines cause autism, except for one study by Guyer and Guyer, who lack legitimacy. They emphasize the need for a proper study involving controlled administration of vaccines. Speaker 1, as a physician, cannot definitively say vaccines do not cause autism, but they believe they do not. Speaker 0 questions if it is appropriate to make that claim without scientific evidence. Speaker 1 argues that they prioritize the child's health and are willing to say vaccines do not cause autism. The IOM did not review if DTaP causes leprosy.

Keeping It Real

VACCINES: HONEST ANSWERS with Dr. Joel Warsh
Guests: Dr. Joel Gator Warsh
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The episode presents a wide‑ranging, data‑driven discussion about vaccines with Dr. Joel Warsh, a pediatrician and epidemiology trained clinician who authored a book aimed at balancing vaccine questions with evidence. The conversation centers on how vaccine safety is communicated, the medical community’s approach to risk, and why concerns persist among parents who notice rising autoimmune and allergic conditions, chronic illnesses, and debates over autism. Warsh stresses that vaccines are not anti‑vaccine; rather, the aim is open dialogue, rigorous safety review, and better public understanding of benefits versus harms. He notes that many questions get short shrift in public discourse, and he advocates transparency, nuance, and ongoing research rather than absolutist declarations about safety being “debunked.” The dialogue dives into core concepts of safety testing and trial design, explaining the difference between inert placebo controls and comparisons against other vaccines or existing vaccines. The guests discuss how safety signals are collected, the role of VAERS, and whether long‑term, large‑scale data can convincingly rule out rare adverse events. They debate the interpretation of data around autism, noting the scarcity of comprehensive, prospective studies across all vaccines beyond MMR and thimerosal and arguing that unanswered questions should prompt more research rather than definitive dismissals. A substantial portion is devoted to the ethical and societal questions of mandates, coercion, and herd immunity. The hosts explore how individual risk assessments intersect with the social contract to protect vulnerable populations, acknowledging that definitions of “safe” and “enough” vary widely. They discuss vaccine technologies—old versus new—and adjuvants, including aluminum and trace metals, as well as the development of mRNA vaccines, their testing history, and what “emergency use” really means. Throughout, the conversation emphasizes the importance of listening to skeptical voices, testing assumptions, and pursuing healthier, safer vaccines while avoiding vilification of dissenting views. The episode concludes with calls for more balanced media coverage and collaborative dialogue among scientists, clinicians, policymakers, and parents to restore trust and improve vaccine safety in practice.

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan Experience #2462 - Aaron Siri
Guests: Aaron Siri
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In this episode, the discussion centers on vaccines, the regulatory framework surrounding them, the incentives within the pharmaceutical industry, and how information about vaccines has been shaped and transmitted in public discourse. The guest critiques the immunity regime that shields vaccine manufacturers from certain lawsuits, arguing that the economics of vaccines differ from other products and that this creates a distinct dynamic in safety, disclosure, and accountability. The conversation traverses the historical context of vaccine regulation, including the 1986 act that afforded manufacturers immunity and how that has influenced industry behavior, post-licensure safety monitoring, and the incentives to promote uptake. The speakers compare vaccine safety testing with that of other drugs, highlighting that most medicines undergo multi-year placebo-controlled trials, whereas vaccines for children reportedly rely on shorter safety windows, and the implications this may have for long-term safety data. They discuss how the public health establishment communicates risk and how some critics interpret official messaging as evidence of bias or suppression, touching on episodes where information about adverse events or potential harms was restricted or debated in public forums. The dialogue also addresses broader questions about how markets, litigation, and government policy shape product safety, using analogies from industry cases to illustrate why some harms are addressed through litigation while others are managed through different regulatory or compensation mechanisms. Throughout, the tone emphasizes the importance of examining primary sources, challenging assumptions, and recognizing the role of media ecosystems, platforms, and incentives in shaping what information reaches the public. The exchange keeps returning to the tension between collective public health goals and individual rights, arguing for a system that rewards transparency, accountability, and a robust, evidence-based examination of harms and benefits, even when such an analysis unsettles long-standing beliefs about vaccines and disease prevention.
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