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The USMCA is a good deal, but the speaker had a bad relationship with a person who worked for Trudeau's predecessor because they disagreed on the deal. The speaker claims to have called Trudeau "governor Trudeau," which may have hurt his election. The speaker questioned Trudeau about why the US was taking Canada's cars and suggested a 25% tariff on Canadian cars, to which Trudeau allegedly responded that it would mean the end of Canada. The speaker finds it hard to justify subsidizing Canada, potentially to the tune of $200 billion a year, while the US protects Canada militarily. The speaker believes it's hard for the American taxpayer to be happy about subsidizing Canada.

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Speaker 0 introduces a moment to hear what the crowd thinks, noting skepticism about whether there will be opportunity to see it. Speaker 1 says they don’t know who’s whispering to the speaker, likening it to Grima Wormtongue, and asserts that half the people from their movement aren’t on Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin’s team. They say: “We aren’t neocons. We aren’t war hawks. We want America first. And if you make me choose between America first and MAGA, it’s America first all day. That’s what MAGA was supposed to be. You were just the best vessel for it, bro. Don’t get it twisted.” Speaker 2 contends that despite Trump’s flaws, including insider trading, they’re glad he’s differentiating and saying “you’re not with me because I’m not with you.” They reject being associated with someone they describe as a “cool corrupt kid” and a “Jeffrey Epstein class table.” They claim Trump “wasn’t loyal to his original mission. He wasn’t loyal to America. He became a creature of Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu,” and that all “his never troubled enemies are now the courtiers with the madness of King Lear” telling him the lies they want to hear, and declare they are not one of those people. Speaker 3 argues that this proves multiple things, including that “the first thing, he shouldn’t be in office anymore. Implement the twenty fifth.” They say Trump isn’t loyal to this country or to anybody except “that little country in the Middle East.” They note it’s as if he does what he’s told, and compare him unfavorably to JFK for telling that country no. They ask, “How can you call them losers when you lose to Bibi Netanyahu in Israel every single day? When’s the last time you told them no to anything?” Speaker 0 shifts to a personal jab, saying Brigitte Macron is far more beautiful than Candace Owens, and asserts he’s been blind across the Internet. They reference reactions on Truth Social, noting “they’ve turned on you.” They catalog some responses: “You are way out of line.” They remind that many were once day ones, including Alex Jones, who had Trump on his show when “no media company would have you on.” They summarize: people are telling Trump to take a step back and “get back to America first.” Others say, “You are just going against everyone that fought for him to win just because of the Epstein files and being at war with Iran for Israel.” They quote: “We didn’t leave MAGA. MAGA left them. Clearly, you are insane. Time to resign, Donald or face the twenty fifth. You are mentally and emotionally unfit to be POTUS.” Additional insults follow: “You are so childish. Clearly, the truth has triggered you being one of your biggest supporters. I am done with you and your lies.” They claim Trump bent the knee to a monster, leaving a mess in the country, and, finally, describe a recurring social media pattern: “this was the most brutal and sadly a recurring response all across social media.” Speaker 0 adds that a tweet about Charlie suggested he would be on a list if they hadn’t killed him, asserting that “there is no truth and there is no loyalty within you.”

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The speaker expresses concern over the CCP's infiltration and funding of woke culture in US colleges and universities. They question the students' support for Hamas during pro-Palestinian rallies, despite Hamas' violent actions. Speaker 1 mentions that Harvard and other universities have provided exclusive training to CCP officials, suggesting that colleges and universities have been invaded by the CCP's ideology. They express sympathy for parents who worked hard to send their children to college, only to see them develop hatred towards the country and its people.

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Speaker 0 argues that Trump currently represents a political liability for both sides of Australian politics. He says that if defending the proposition of an alliance with the United States for the future, it has to be done in terms of the alliance being intrinsically valuable whatever the future may hold, and notes that Trump’s time is limited to about three years, maybe less depending on the midterms. Speaker 1 recalls that this was in October 2017, when Trump was president, and labels the remarks from a former Australian prime minister as unwise and indicates that there was clearly little understanding of American politics and the immense support that Trump had amassed. He says, “But it gets worse. Rudd claimed Trump was a problem for the world.” Speaker 0 reinforces the point by stating, “This guy is a problem. He is an objective problem, for the world, for the region, for my country.” He adds that, “not as an American, I will not comment on the problem he represents to The United States domestically. So he's a buzzword.” Speaker 1 notes that in addition to calling Trump a problem, Rudd “urged the Republican Party to remove Trump.” Speaker 0 comments on the irony of that advice, noting that it came from “a man who himself was removed from office by his own colleagues.”

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A young Chinese TikTok influencer speaking English shared a 1.5-minute clip directed at Americans, and the speaker says it is “fascinating” and discusses it with Chris and Professor Mearsheimer. The clip claims Americans “don’t need a tariff” and instead “need a revolution.” It argues that American “garment and auto guys” for decades “won’t ship your job to China” for diplomacy or peace, but to “exploit cheap labor,” resulting in hollowing out the middle class and crashing the working class while telling Americans to be proud as “they sold your future for profit.” The clip contrasts China’s use of trade gains—building roads, lifting millions out of poverty, funding healthcare, and raising living standards—with what it says American “oligarchs” did with wealth: buying yachts, private jets, and mansions, manipulating markets, dodging taxes, and pouring billions into endless wars. It says Americans face stagnant wages, crippling healthcare costs, “cheap dopamine,” debt, and “flagged wave poverty made in China,” while elites “picked your pocket.” The clip states that for forty years both China and the United States benefited from trade and manufacturing, but only one of them used that wealth to build, calling it “yours” and claiming Americans “let this happen.” It says elites fed lies that made the public “fat, poor, and addicted,” and rejects the idea that China is to blame for mass damage, arguing Americans should “wake up” and “take your country back.” The speaker adds one correction: “we haven’t spent billions on useless wars, we've spent trillions on useless wars.” Professor Mearsheimer is prompted to respond as if the clip’s speaker were his student. He says he “basically agree[s] with him” and that he thinks the message is largely something Trump made as a candidate before the 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections, which the speaker says helped get him elected in two of those three cases. Mearsheimer concludes that there are “a huge number of People in this country” who feel exactly the same way the Chinese influencer describes.

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Harvard has about 31% foreign students, which is too much because Americans want to attend. The speaker wants to know who these students are. No foreign government contributes money to Harvard, but the US does. The speaker wants a list of the foreign students to determine if they are "okay," assuming many will be. The speaker also claims Harvard is anti-Semitic and that this must stop immediately.

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The speaker claims the rise of certain issues in localities nationwide originates with the unelected US Department of Education. This department allegedly uses its $83 billion budget to pressure schools into adopting "toxic ideologies" by threatening to withhold federal funding. The speaker states they are the first US presidential candidate to propose abolishing the Department of Education. They argue that 25% of the department's budget could fund three armed security guards in every school across the nation, which they present as a superior use of funds.

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- Speaker 0 asserts that there will never be a country like the current one and questions whether Republicans should frame it that way. - Speaker 1 asks if the H-1B visa issue will not be a big priority for the administration, arguing that to raise wages for American workers you can’t flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. - Speaker 0 counters that there is a need to bring in talent, and questions whether there are enough talented people domestically, implying that some people must be brought in from outside. - Speaker 1 retorts that there aren’t enough talented people domestically. - Speaker 0 argues that you can’t simply take people off unemployment lines and place them in factories manufacturing missiles, asserting that this doesn’t work. - Speaker 1 asks how such work has been done historically. - Speaker 0 provides an example from Georgia: they raided to remove illegal immigrants and hadSouth Korean workers who needed batteries and were capable of producing them, noting that battery production is dangerous and complex, with explosions and problems. - Speaker 0 notes that they had five or six hundred people in the early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it, and that the aim was to get them out of the country. - Speaker 1 acknowledges disagreement, stating you can’t simply invest billions to build a plant and take people off unemployment lines who haven’t worked in five years to start making missiles, concluding that it doesn’t work that way.

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The discussion centers on the way lawmakers reference religion in foreign policy and whether that approach is effective. Speaker 0 asks the audience how many think a respected lawmaker like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel, even if he doesn’t know the verse, and whether that is the best approach. Speaker 1 responds by referencing Ted Cruz’s Genesis twelve three, and notes that many find that off-putting when contrasted with the New Testament, specifically Paul’s writings about the new flesh not being the same as the people in the old covenant. Speaker 1 asks, “Yes. Romans nine?” and agrees with the sentiment. Speaker 0 then asks Speaker 1 if they are Catholic, to which Speaker 1 replies that they are converting Catholic from Judaism, revealing that they are ethnically Jewish. The exchange confirms Speaker 1’s Jewish ethnicity. Speaker 0 brings up concerns about APAC, asking if Speaker 1 has concerns about APAC. Speaker 1 confirms that they do. Speaker 0 notes that some people tell them that criticizing APAC equates to being anti-Semitic, asking whether this is true. Speaker 1 calls that notion ridiculous and says it’s great to have concern for one’s country. The conversation shifts to APAC’s influence. Speaker 0 presents a characterization (as a possible summary of Speaker 1’s view) that APAC represents a form of prioritization that cuts in line, away from the American people. Speaker 0 asks whether this is a fair summary. Speaker 1 answers affirmatively, “100%.” Finally, they articulate the core idea: the public votes and are citizens, but a separate group is described as receiving higher priority for whatever reasons. Speaker 1’s agreement underscores a shared concern that APAC’s influence creates a prioritization that bypasses the ordinary American electorate.

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The speaker expresses concern over the CCP's infiltration and funding of woke culture in US colleges and universities. They question the students' support for Hamas during pro-Palestinian rallies, despite Hamas' violent actions. Speaker 1 mentions that Harvard and other universities have provided exclusive training to CCP officials, and believes that all colleges and universities have been invaded by the CCP's ideology. They express sympathy for parents who worked hard to send their children to college, only to see them develop hatred towards their own country and its people.

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Speaker 0 notes that owned groups have been buying up schools across the United States, including Spring Education Group which owns 240 schools in 19 states, funded by a Chinese investment firm whose CEO has been described as an ardent Chinese nationalist. Xi Van Fleet, who was born in China and lived through the Cultural Revolution, joins the discussion. Speaker 1 explains that the CCP has long viewed America as its arch enemy and has continually aimed to weaken and undermine the United States in order to replace it as the world’s superpower. Education is identified as a key battleground. Since the early 2000s, CCP efforts began with higher education through Confucius Institutes, then expanded to public schools via donation and exchange programs such as sister school programs, and are now moving into private schools by purchasing many of them. She asserts that in 2015 the CCP bought the high school New York Military Academy, a school that President Donald Trump attended, arguing that the intent is not to make money but to take over American education and turn classrooms into the “little red classroom” and education into “American education with CCP characteristics.” The overarching goal, she claims, is generations of people who align with CCP messaging, referencing influencer Hassan Piker who allegedly visited China and told followers that China offered a solution for America, asserting that communism is the solution to problems created by capitalism in America. This, she says, is very dangerous. Speaker 0 adds that the NY Military Academy purchase connects to efforts to influence elites by targeting private schools where wealthy families send their children, who then go on to hold high positions in society. She notes that there has been chatter about Chinese ownership of farmlands as well, but argues that the influence through these private schools is even more effective.

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A young Chinese influencer on TikTok who speaks English posted a minute-and-a-half clip directed at Americans. The clip argues that “they rub you blind, and you thank them for it,” calling it a tragedy and a scam, and says Americans “don’t need a tariff” but “need a revolution.” It claims Americans’ garment and auto industries shipped jobs to China “not for diplomacy, not for peace,” but to exploit cheap labor. It says this hollowed out the middle class, crashed the working class, and pressured people to be proud while their future was sold “for profit.” It contrasts China’s outcomes with the United States: it states China made money but used it to build roads, lift millions out of poverty, fund healthcare, and raise living standards, adding that “we reinvest in our people,” including the influencer’s own family benefiting. It then asserts that Americans’ “oligarchs” bought yachts, private jets, mansions with golf course driveways, manipulated markets, dodged taxes, and poured billions into endless wars. The clip contrasts this with Americans facing “stagnant wages, crippling healthcare costs, cheap dopamine, debt,” and “flaked away public money in China while they pick your pocket.” The clip concludes that for forty years both China and the United States benefited from trade and manufacturing, but only one side used that wealth to build. It states, “This isn’t China’s fault. This is yours. You let this happen,” blaming Americans for accepting lies and then letting those responsible blame China for the resulting problems. It calls for Americans to “wake up” and “take your country back,” repeating that a revolution is needed. In the discussion afterward, the host notes a correction: “we haven’t spent billions on useless wars, we’ve spent trillions on useless wars.” Professor Mearsheimer responds that if the influencer were a student in his class giving that statement, he would “basically agree,” saying the influencer is correct. He adds that the message is in large part something Trump made as a candidate before the 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections, and that it helped get him elected in two of those three cases. He concludes that many people in the country feel exactly the way the Chinese gentleman feels about what has happened.

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Speaker 2 stated he doesn't think they can change Donald Trump at this stage. Speaker 1 believes Pierre Poilievre, like Trump, will focus on the American worker, securing borders, ending fentanyl, and securing the world. Speaker 2 said he and Poilievre have a lot in common, but Speaker 1 says Poilievre is willfully blind to threats facing the country. Speaker 2 stated the U.S. doesn't want cars, steel, or aluminum from Canada because they want to make their own. Speaker 1 questioned how much steel is used these days. Speaker 2 recounted a conversation with Trudeau, whom he called "Governor Trudeau," about tariffs on Canadian cars. Speaker 2 claimed Trudeau said a 25% tariff would mean the end of Canada. Speaker 2 believes the U.S. subsidizes Canada to the tune of maybe $200 billion a year and that it's hard to justify. He added that the U.S. protects Canada militarily.

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Speaker 0 states that Donald Trump is in retreat due to opposition to his tariff policies, which are described as chaotic and damaging to the economy. These policies are said to discourage spending due to their unpredictability and harm American families. Speaker 1 claims tariffs send a message to China that their unfair trade policies must end and that failure to reform will have dramatic consequences. The speaker asserts China has a large and growing trade surplus with the U.S., partly due to free trade rules, but largely because China doesn't play fair by restricting access to their markets and not preventing the theft of intellectual property.

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Speaker 0 asks if the belief that the person is secretly saving the world from a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals is something they support. Speaker 1 responds that they haven't heard that before, but if it means helping to save the world, they are willing to do it. They believe they are saving the world from a radical left philosophy that would destroy the country, and emphasize the importance of the country as a leader for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 0 argues that forming a closer economic union between Canada and the United States would create a strong economic force and notes that removing the artificially drawn border line would be beneficial. They also claim that such integration would be better for national security, stating that “we basically protect Canada.” Speaker 1 counters with several possibilities: the United States and Canada may become one, which would simplify border controls; or Canada might retain its hydropower, which could create an energy problem in the United States. They also reference a broader belief: “Now we all know that Trump wants to take Canada and Greenland.”

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Speaker 0 suggests that if someone wanted to buy property near one of China’s military installations, they would likely be in Beijing. Speaker 1 responds that President Xi wouldn’t allow it. Speaker 1 argues that selling or removing students from the U.S. would harm both farmers and universities. They claim that China already has a lot of land, and that land acquisition occurred during the Obama administration without action. Speaker 1 says that if people “take [farm land] out of the market,” it would cause property and farm prices to change and lead farmers to lose money. They then focus on students: Speaker 1 says China has “500,000 students” and characterizes them as “good students.” Speaker 1 says that telling another country “I don’t want any students” is “very insulting” and would prompt China to start building universities all over China. Speaker 1 adds that if these students are “good and they wanna stay in America,” they “won’t give them a green card,” and this restriction would affect not only these students but others from other countries as well. Speaker 1 states that removing “a half a million people” from universities would not end the top schools, but would cause “bankruptcies at the lower end” of good colleges and widespread trouble for lower-tier institutions. They also argue that international students coming to learn American culture is beneficial, and that some people disagree. Addressing concerns about intentions, Speaker 1 says both sides worry about “nefarious intentions” and portrays the situation as a “very fine line,” stating that “they do things to us, we do things to them.” Speaker 1 concludes that school systems would not want such a scenario because it would leave “you won’t have much of a school system.”

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Speaker 0 claims the Department of Government Efficiency found hundreds of billions in fraud, but Speaker 1 denies any fraud was found. Speaker 0 alleges Social Security is paying people over 220 years old, which Speaker 1 disputes. Speaker 1 criticizes Trump's anti-immigrant stance and calls Musk a "thug." Speaker 0 defends Trump, suggesting he might be the greatest president in modern American history. Speaker 1 calls Speaker 0 "deluded" for supporting Trump, characterizing Trump as rude, nasty, and racist. Speaker 0 accuses others of being in a cult, claiming they try to stop people from talking to those with different ideas. Speaker 0 says things got "hot" and troopers asked him to leave. Speaker 0 then shares the speech he planned to give, emphasizing that all are Americans with First Amendment rights and should unite to eliminate corruption.

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Speaker 1: Mentions there are many things she wishes people knew, but mostly with the administration she wishes people knew that “we're letting in criminals daily.” Speaker 2: States the big issue for the region is migration, noting “we poured a lot of money into Central America,” amounting to “4,000,000,000 over four years,” but migrants are now coming from elsewhere, including Venezuela. Speaker 3: Asks, “So what is the end goal?” Speaker 1: Asks why aren’t they allowing children, noting “a lot of children travel to The United States, David.” Speaker 2: Explains aid goes to female presence in Mexico, training women, and mentions working with gender issues in Pakistan, aiming to recruit, retain, and advance more women in law enforcement. Asks whether US taxpayers’ money should be spent in “our country on this issue,” implying women may not care about certain aspects. Speaker 2: Asks how close Secretary Lincoln is to him, “five degrees separation,” and notes migration is a niche industry that flies under the radar; the average American doesn’t know what they do. Speaker 1: Thanks the chairman, ranking member, and members for the opportunity to testify. Speaker 2: Mentions upcoming briefings in two weeks on the FY 2025 budget request on the Hill. Speaker 0: States migration is the big issue for the Hill and asks, “Stop migration. What are we doing to stop migration?” Speaker 1: Responds that he’s not accountable for that and says, “We do stuff,” referencing the root causes strategy, which is about giving money to support and help people at the origins of migrants so they feel they can stay there instead of migrating. It’s “Central America, basically.” He says they poured a lot of money into Central America, and again mentions “4,000,000,000 over four years.” Speaker 2: Asks if it’s doing anything; response: yes, for them, but migrants are now coming from elsewhere like Venezuela, and acknowledges that outcome looks bad for the administration and for politics in general. Speaker 3: Seeks the end goal and asks again why there’s a limit on who’s allowed in. Speaker 1: Cites changes in demographics in the United States; notes that Nebraskans are traditional Americans not leftists, while Latin Americans are described as leftists, framing it as a system to try to change demographics.

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Speaker 0 raises questions about what’s happening culturally in Europe, noting crackdowns on free speech and people looking less like us, and asks whether a massive shift in world alliances is occurring long term. Speaker 1 responds that there is definitely a new world order, with changes in trade, globalization, and the way we invest in our economy versus foreign supply chains. They say the president is willing to shake up old alliance structures, and that NATO is much different now because of the president’s leadership, whereas ten years ago it was effectively a protectorate of the United States of America. They mention Venezuela as an example and state that the president is putting a stamp on world history, but in an America-first way.

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The speaker expresses concern over the infiltration and funding of woke culture in US colleges and universities by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). They question the students' support for Hamas during pro-Palestinian rallies, despite Hamas' violent actions. Speaker 1 mentions that Harvard and other universities have provided training to CCP officials, suggesting that colleges and universities have been invaded by the CCP's ideology. The speaker sympathizes with parents who worked hard to send their children to college, only to see them develop hatred towards their own country.

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Speaker 1 states they respect Ben Shapiro, agreeing with him on some basics and his love for Israel. The speaker disagrees with getting involved in foreign wars and prioritizes their own country's interests. Speaker 0 mentions being criticized for an "America First" mindset. Speaker 1 elaborates that disagreements should be addressed with debate, not character attacks, which they attribute to the left. They lament the tendency to impugn a person's character instead of addressing their arguments, finding it "incredibly low." They claim the left short-circuits debate by attacking character, labeling opponents as racist or indecent to avoid engaging with their ideas.

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Speaker 0 criticizes the hypocrisy of the speech and accuses President Joe Biden of warmongering by allocating $100 billion in funding for Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Speaker 1 tries to dismiss Speaker 0's comments and suggests having a conversation later. Speaker 0 insists that the American people's voices need to be heard and accuses the president of not representing them. Speaker 1 argues that Speaker 0's opinion is not the voice of the American people. The argument escalates, with Speaker 0 claiming it is free speech and Speaker 1 disagreeing. The discussion becomes heated, with Speaker 0 mentioning historical events and Speaker 1 dismissing them. The conversation ends abruptly, with Speaker 0 inviting Speaker 1 to continue outside.

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- Speaker 0 asserts that drones are in the air all day and mentions Palantir as “keeping tabs of on everything that was happening,” suggesting Palantir’s involvement in Gaza. Speaker 1 confirms Palantir’s involvement in Gaza, noting a long-standing relationship with Israel that began in 2014 and significantly scaled up during the Gaza events starting in 2020. They describe the source as biased and imply the article’s phrasing is questionable, but acknowledge the basic fact of Palantir’s use in Israel, including a mention that it’s “even on palantir.com.” - The discussion shifts to perceptions of bias in reporting. Speaker 2 notes that when Jamie mentions an article, Joe Rogan quickly labels it “a very biased article and that no one should trust it,” arguing that Palantir’s technology being used in Israel is a well-known fact. This is presented as something Joe Rogan “plays super dumb to,” influenced by fear of Peter Thiel, according to Speaker 2. - There is a critique of Joe Rogan’s appearance or demeanor, with Speaker 0 making a flippant remark and Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 continuing the thread about Joe’s attitude toward the information and his handlers. - The conversation revisits Joe Rogan’s relationship with his “handlers,” with Speaker 2 suggesting Joe’s handlers have been upset with him, possibly due to a recent Dave Smith podcast in which Rogan appeared anti-MAGA, calling MAGA supporters “a bunch of dorks,” and criticizing the Trump administration’s immigration policy while praising Obama-era deportations. Speaker 2 recounts that JD Vance said he would text Rogan to tell him he was wrong, indicating tension or pressure from political allies. - Speaker 1 quotes/digests a broader concept: “America is great. Make America greater, I’m down. But make America great again and then it becomes a movement of a bunch of fucking dorks,” noting that many participants are “dorks” and “real genuine patriots,” and that the idea of making America great is good, but the inclusivity of the team leads to problems. - Speaker 3 challenges a claim: Rogan roasted the Trump administration and suggested that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are better at deporting people than Rogan, claiming this is almost an exact quote, and questions whether MAGA is “full of dorks.” The group contemplates whether the audience includes many dorks, but asserts a distinction between dorks and genuine patriots. - The dialogue concludes with Speaker 2 asserting that there are people in the government with direct contact to Joe Rogan who push their agenda, implying Rogan might be under pressure to align with certain positions. This is presented alongside the idea that Joe is “skating on extremely thin ice” with these figures, and that Theo’s critique of the administration contributed to tensions. Joe’s response is characterized as telling Theo to “chill out and stop talk.”

The Megyn Kelly Show

Dems Try to Smear Trump with Epstein Emails, and Culture Shift Right, with Batya and Morgenstein

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Megyn Kelly and Batya Ungar-Sargon discuss the latest release of Jeffrey Epstein documents, focusing on three emails that allegedly link Donald Trump to Epstein. They heavily criticize the Democratic House Oversight Committee for redacting the name of alleged victim Virginia Giuffre, arguing it was done to create a false narrative against Trump, as Giuffre herself had previously stated Trump was not involved in wrongdoing and her credibility has been questioned due to past fabrications. The hosts suggest that the emails, particularly one where Epstein mentions Trump knew about "the girls" and asked Ghislaine Maxwell "to stop," are ambiguous and could even imply Trump disapproved of Epstein's activities. They debate whether Trump's strategy of not fully releasing the documents was a self-inflicted wound or a calculated move given the politicization of the issue. The conversation shifts to Trump's recent interview with Laura Ingraham, where he defended allowing Chinese students into American universities and supported H-1B visas. Both Kelly and Ungar-Sargon strongly disagree with Trump's stance, arguing that these policies undermine American workers, drive down wages in STEM fields, and benefit foreign entities over domestic talent. Ungar-Sargon advocates for a near-zero immigration policy to protect American jobs and address affordability crises, asserting that current immigration levels negatively impact the working class by increasing competition and burdening taxpayers. A significant portion of the discussion centers on Tish Heyman, a black lesbian woman who confronted San Francisco politician Scott Wiener about the safety of women's spaces after she was allegedly assaulted by a trans-identifying male in a Gold's Gym locker room. Kelly and Ungar-Sargon commend Heyman for speaking truth to power, criticizing Wiener's evasive responses and the broader progressive stance on gender identity that they believe endangers cisgender women and children. They express dismay at the political and cultural pressure to accept trans extremism, particularly regarding children and women's sports, and highlight the perceived hypocrisy of the left's identity politics. The hosts also critique CNN's Abby Phillip for claiming conservatives live in a different information world and that her job is to debunk their "conspiracy theories." Kelly dismisses Phillip's claims as biased and hypocritical, citing instances where Phillip herself spread misinformation or failed to report accurately on topics like Joe Biden's alleged weaponization of the DOJ. Ungar-Sargon, while grateful for being hosted on CNN, notes the disproportionate interruptions faced by conservative guests and the differing interpretations of the same media clips by left and right audiences. Finally, they discuss the debate over eliminating the Senate filibuster, with Trump advocating for its removal and many Republicans, including the hosts, opposing it. They cite James Carville's prediction that Democrats would pack the Supreme Court if they gain full control, using this as a warning against abolishing the filibuster. Kelly and Ungar-Sargon argue that maintaining the filibuster protects minority rights, encourages deliberation, and prevents the right from making the same mistakes of overreach they accuse the left of committing. The episode concludes with an interview with photographer Barry Morganstein, who shares stories from his career and discusses facing "cancel culture" due to his conservative political views.