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Ms. Green from Georgia states: "the man the 22 year old man, Tyler Robinson, that that murdered Charlie Kirk is not MAGA. His family may be Republican but all of the evidence that is being presented proves that he is a far leftist, very much integrated in online groups that are linked to Antifa. He was in a relationship with a biological male, so called furry, whatever that is, that is transitioning to be a fake woman. That is he was not MAGA, not one bit." She calls it "a complete lie, and it's an insult to every single Republican and person that identifies with those type of politics." She says, "We will not tolerate it," and claims that this language is getting many of us death threats day after day, and led to shootings on the baseball field where Steve Scalise was shot. "This is what led to President Trump nearly being assassinated this past summer. This is what has led to Charlie Kirk being assassinated." And so I just I just wanna give a warning there. "We're not going to tolerate that anymore. Mister chairman You know something else we're not going to tolerate is crime."

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Officials say they do not have a motive yet. Law enforcement 'hasn't laid out a direct motive,' though they 'laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages' and 'they said that he was a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk.' The panel discusses whether the shooter was a right-wing actor; 'the assassin there was not a right wing assassin acting on a political motive.' They argue violence is partisan: 'It is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this,' citing Blue Sky as 'a cesspool of leftist celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk,' and polls suggesting Democrats support violence against Musk and Trump. Kamala Harris was accused of funding rioters; 'following the money' for acts of violence is urged. They note past incidents, including the Minnesota murder, calling the perpetrator 'horrible' and saying he should be prosecuted. Senator Ted Cruz closes.

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The discussion centers on motive in a shooting. "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet." "That's CNN's position. Mean, he just happened to fire the gun in celebration." They note "law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive" though "they laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." The panel debates whether the shooter was "a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted" and "we should follow the money. Anyone funding acts of violence, we should." They claim "the left ... overwhelmingly celebrates this," citing "Blue Sky ... leftist celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk" and "over 50% of Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk is justified." They discuss violence on both sides and conclude, "There are deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left." Sen. Cruz, thanks for your time tonight.

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24% of people who identify as very liberal think that political violence is acceptable. That number is only 3% for conservatives. That's not an American problem. That's a left wing problem. Yes, everybody should be able to condemn political violence. On the left and the right, I certainly do. But this is a problem that we're seeing predominantly from the left.

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Pro gun advocate Charlie Kirk just got shot in the neck at his debate rally. The speaker laments political violence: “I try to avoid American politics... but I've opened X to a bunch of little bitches crying and whinging about how political violence is never the answer.” They claim, “These people are gunning for politics that are inherently violent to its people, to to marginalize people, to people who need access to health care.” The message: this is “the same across the West”—“This isn't just The US. This is England too.” The speaker adds, “I'm sick of this idea that you can't meet violence with violence. If somebody was smacking you... you're going to hit them back. You have to.” They conclude, “These people do not care if you live or die... They want you to die.” “Why is anyone anyone condemning that fucking kill them all kill them all”

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The speaker opens by saying "the tolerant left strikes again" and reports "Charlie Kirk was shot today at a campus talking to young people, the future of this country." Declaring "be done with this both side stuff," he argues "both sides don't do this" and complains that "the left can't have anyone who disagrees with them over there." He adds "January 6, that was still even a setup. I know because I was there" and praises Charlie for supporting "J Sixers" and taking their stories to the president at AmericaFest to celebrate conservatism and republican values. He condemns the left for doxxing, ransacking stores, and beating people for opinions, and proclaims "There's only one side, the godless, the death cult known as the Democratic Party." He ends with prayers for Charlie and his family and a call to trust in God and move forward.

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One month ago today, I witnessed my friend of ten years, someone who I considered a brother, a loving husband, a devoted father, a generational leader, get assassinated on a livestream by a left wing radical. Approximately one year ago, I witnessed the president of The United States get shot in the head by a left wing radical who also took the life of a transporter in front of his daughters and wife. Two months ago, Christian children kneeling and praying in a church Were slaughtered. By a left wing extremist. If it's happening every single week, is it that extreme, or has the Democrat party mainstreamed violence as a political tool? Violence has been mainstreamed by the Democrat Party. It is not extremist. Is any Democrat courageous enough to disavow violence? The Trump administration making America safe again. God bless them.

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"I don't know who did this. And I sure hope that it was not from the left that would be better." "But it doesn't matter because the first Trump assassination also was not from the left." "It was just a guy who was going to also had Biden on his target list." "And it's been made in the ideology of this far right that you're seeing online." "It's part of a line, Brett Kavanaugh, Trump assassination, how Charlie Kirk," "It doesn't matter that it wasn't from the left because that part has been erased in the common litany of grievances." "Absolutely." "I mean, it's just it's just about the, momentum of violence. Right?" "If one side keeps punching, that's bad, that's really bad." "But it's much worse when one side punches, the other punches back." "That causes an escalation."

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My sympathy to Charlie Kirk's family and to Charlie Kirk who obviously is, you know, become a target for somebody. I don't know whether it's political violence because I don't know who did it. I know they seem to have somebody in custody. But I will say that political violence unfortunately has been ratcheting up in this country. We saw the shootings, the killings in Minnesota. We've seen other political violence occur in other states, and I I would just say it's gotta stop. And I think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. I think the president's rhetoric often foments it. We've seen the January 6 rioters who clearly, you know, have tripped a new era of political violence.

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Transcript portrays a speaker accusing leftists of celebrating Charlie Kirk's death and circulating provocative statements about guns and violence. It includes the lines: 'Leftists celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.' 'Watch this.' 'Bye, Charlie Kirk.' 'Like you said, people getting shot and killed for the second amendment is so worth it. I never thought we'd agree on anything.' 'Bye.' 'I just wanna be part of yourself.' 'By the sword, die by the sword.' 'He did say that gun deaths were an acceptable side effect of gun rights.' 'Congratulations to Charlie Kirk for becoming the new poster child for gun awareness and violence.'

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There will never be unity if Democrats continue doing this. Leftists destroyed national monuments, burned the American flag near the capitol, and assaulted police officers, with all charges dropped in under 24 hours. This has happened dozens of times. Meanwhile, Republicans who are pro-life and praying at abortion clinics face years in prison under Kamala Harris's Department of Justice. People at the capitol building three and a half years ago face a decade or longer in prison for the equivalent of jaywalking. Democrats destroy Republicans' lives. There's not gonna be any unity if Democrats keep doing this. Instead of facing Republicans like men, Democrats use the government to come after people because they're cowards.

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At the core of the left, at the core of a liberal, is someone that would use the sword if they had it. They are very violent people at their core. They always have it. They can't debate. They can't have conversation. So they'll resort to these tactics. They're gonna do everything they possibly can to try to murder this movement because they can't beat us. So they're gonna try to take weapons. And now we're very aware of that. I'm aware of it. We have to have full time security. This is not a joke. This is who these people are.

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"First of all, you know, I'd heard different things about his ideology." "He wasn't a registered democrat or republican." "He may have been a groyker, which is a follower of Nick Fuentes, who's on the right." "But I'll say this, it shouldn't matter." "This has happened to democrats." "This has happened to republicans." "The shooters were on both sides of the extreme." "And so what should matter is that we should all come together to, one, tone down the rhetoric, and two, keep our events safe, and and three, make sure that this doesn't happen again." "And so playing the blame game is not toning down the rhetoric." "Playing the blame game only makes the rhetoric and the problem worse."

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The election was totally fraudulent as we all knew. 100% it was stolen. January 6 was just, you know, mom and dad who were mad about what they saw to be an election that they thought was unfair. During 02/2020, rioters caused about $3,000,000,000 worth of damage and killed about two dozen people over the course of eight months. This is David Dorn in his very last moments on Earth. He's a former police captain protecting a store. I happen to believe that a lot of the ways they treated rioters that were left wing. Kamala Harris was working to help the instigators, the criminals, get out of jail. Giving the narrative that there's no consequences for acts of violence even on federal grounds, cases being dropped from the federal siege in Portland by leftist rioters. I believe that was part of setting a narrative to gaslight the right wing into thinking that they could riot too and get away with it. This is mostly a protest. It is not, generally speaking, unruly. Show me where it says that protest was supposed to be polite and peaceful. Peaceful protest. Peaceful protesters. Too many see the protest as the problem. No. The problem is what forced your fellow citizens to take to the streets.

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Speaker 0 argues there is “an entirely different kind of terrorism” in the U.S., defining Terrorism as “the use of terror to pursue political goals or religious goals” and asks, “once you strip that humanity away… why wouldn’t you hurt them? why wouldn’t you kill them?” He claims “the Democrat party. They're communists. Their street animals are communists. Their their street enforcers are communists,” saying elites understand a rabid base that they “program them,” no different than a jihadi being programmed. He cites Jaya Powell on being “strike ready” and “street ready,” and increasing risk tolerance as the situation worsens, arguing, “we're fighting against Nazis now. We don't have time for any more hesitation.” He says Democrats have created terror cells in America “no different than jihadi terror cells,” in Portland and New York City, “oftentimes drugged out sexually deviant monsters” who believe they’re in a fight with Nazis. He concludes, “We can win this fight, but we better understand that's what we're dealing with… they're not sorry.”

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Speaker claims, "Brother Charlie got murdered, assassinated a few days ago, but the truth is he was assassinated a few years ago." They argue that electing people who demonize their political opponents leads to violence, adding, "So you might have pulled the trigger yourself." The speaker asks, "Who demonize political opponents? Who call political opponents enemies, Hitler, a threat to democracy, who say because we disagree, if you see someone, walk up to them and if they're eating in a restaurant, tell them they're not welcome, get in their face." They warn, "When you start saying stuff like that, calling your political opponents Nazis, fascists, stuff like that. Well, sooner or later, a kook is gonna hear that. A crazy person is going to hear that, and they're going to act on it."

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The communists have to change how they talk. They have to. The elite communists continue to use the most apocalyptic rhetoric. You're giving them orders. These people hear these words and they take them as orders. They hear orders, marching orders. And it's not going to change. Democrats are more inclined to political violence anyway because they're godless scum. It is their religion, and historically evil religions have killed people who are of the opposite religion. Democrat rhetoric combined with a mentally ill base, combined with the fact that Democrats believe political violence is justified. They do. 55% of Democrats come out and say it would be justified if Donald Trump gets killed. Add in some antidepressants. Add in some tranny ideology which shatters your mind.

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Speaker 1: "Just because the other side... jokes about the bad things that happened to them, I don't think that makes it okay for us to turn around and do the same." Speaker 0: "No. We need to stop... the left just haven't cucked out enough." Speaker 0: "Trump is fucking insane because he has support from 90% of the conservatives in the Republican party who are entirely un American." Speaker 1: "One person is dead... a swing state voter." Speaker 1: "We don't know what the motivation of the shooter was." Speaker 1: "Just because there is fire burning doesn't give us leave to throw more wood on it." Speaker 0: "Donald Trump wanted absolute criminal immunity." Speaker 0: "Democracy only works when everybody participates." Speaker 1: "I reject this framing entirely."

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"Do you accept, Carrie, that this is a it's not just a one-sided problem? The political violence and violent rhetoric is a problem on both sides of the divide, and it's incumbent on everybody in a position of authority and influence to take the lead here in trying to to just tone things down." "There's been a few cases where it goes from from the right to the left, but there's been an exorbitant number where it's coming from the left to the right. And you can't deny that. If you add it all up, it's just more violence. I mean, president Trump was nearly assassinated. There's another attempt on his life." "The media has to take credit for what they have caused, the chaos they've caused in our country, and they haven't done it. And until they do, they need to be turned off, canceled, muted. They're absolutely abhorrent."

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He will create a false equivalency between Charlie Kirk and the murder of the Hortmans in Minnesota. That's provably untrue. Melissa Hortman, the Democratic state legislator in Minnesota last three months ago, gunned down by an anti abortion Trump supporter. Yes or no? Wrong. How do I know? Because Vance Bolter, the man who did it, wrote in his letter that it had nothing to do with Trump or being pro life. He blamed Tim Walls. Did you see anyone celebrating the death of them gleefully? Did you see so many professors doing so, showing children a snuff? spitting at their vigil. Joe Walsh will say that this is an overreaction. From the moment Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I said, we don't know who did it. All of this is by design so that the left and spineless right can make this conversation about conservatives responding to the cold blooded terroristic assassination... And maybe if I would have picked up the phone, maybe Charlie would have had a fighting chance.

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These people that are now selling t shirts with Charlie Kirk and a bullet wound in his neck, they cannot be negotiated with. You cannot debate with them. You cannot persuade them to vote Republican. You cannot appeal to them. You will never convince them that you're a good person, that you just want the best for everybody. You will never get them to stop hating you. 'These craven losers'—they have to be defeated. You must be destroyed. You must be identified, you must be isolated, and you must be eradicated from our society. Not Democrats, not leftists, not liberals, those people that would celebrate in that moment. That is pure evil, pure malice. There is no charity in a person's heart. We are on the verge of full on political violence and civil war. When they show up to your front door, when they take shots

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The panel debates motive, with "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet" and "Law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." They cite "they said that he was a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "Look. I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted and go to jail." They claim "There has been an enormous amount, and CNN has been guilty of this, of both sides ism." They argue "It is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this" and "look at Blue Sky and it is a cesspool of leftist celebrating the murder of of Charlie Kirk." The discussion touches polling: "the polls the vast majority of Democrats believe a Republican and a Trump supporter." "Senator Ted Cruz, thanks for your time tonight."

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"Charlie Kirk should not have been assassinated." "That's what I said that caused tens of thousands of Democrats to come into my comments and mentions literally hurling homophobic slurs at me." "The ultimate irony is that that's the reason why you justify the assassination of Charlie Kirk was because he was such a bigot and he said all these horrible things, which aren't even real quotes, by the way." "You hate him for things he never even said." "Meanwhile, you guys are actively saying things that are infinitely worse than anything that Charlie Kirk said." "And you guys don't see it." "You don't have that ability to self reflect." "You have no ability to self reflect." "You guys you guys can literally sit there being the nastiest, meanest, most cruel hearted people ever and genuinely believe that you're the good guy because you're doing it to bad people." "Oh, yeah. What is wrong with you?"

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Political Violence & The Lunatics of Your Own Side - Andrew Doyle
Guests: Andrew Doyle
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A provocative conversation about political violence begins with the Charlie Kirk incident, a discussion of how violence on the left and right poisons public discourse and how the lunatics on one's own side can make opponents look reasonable by comparison. The guests examine how mainstream voices on the left appeared to justify murder after Charlie Kirk's death, and how some on the right have long tolerated harsher rhetoric. They compare the boundaries between disagreement and violence, arguing that freely engaging with opposing views—going into the lion's den and hosting speakers with whom you disagree—is essential to protecting free expression. They dissect how language can dehumanize, with terms like fascist or Nazi used as broad insults, and how miscontextual clips can distort a person's position. A study by Fire is cited, suggesting a troubling trend among younger liberals toward justifying violence on occasion. They pivot to the rise and fall of woke culture, arguing that woke ideology has damaged liberal norms, from DEI programs and gender-identity debates to the closure of Tavistock and a UK Supreme Court emphasis on biological sex. Doyle contends that wokeness is dying as a social force, but warns that a new form of authoritarianism may emerge from the right. He discusses the UK policing and hate-speech regimes, non-crime hate incidents, and the tension between law and activist zeal. The conversation ventures into immigration, Islam, and gay rights, arguing that liberalism requires the rule of law, critical thinking, and a long-term culture of debate rather than top-down censorship. With a move to the United States, Doyle pivots to creative work—new TV concepts, Shakespeare lectures, and plans for Friendly Fire Studios—while still writing and speaking about freedom, truth, and the danger of misused language. He cites literature as a bulwark against fanaticism, naming Dostoevsky’s Notes from Underground, The Gulag Archipelago, and Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility, along with his own book The End of Woke. He argues that liberalism survives only if it resists both left and right authoritarian impulses, preserves free speech, and prizes evidence over narrative. The dialogue closes on a hopeful note about returning to thoughtful, humane debate and the ongoing task of defending liberal principles in a fractured public square.
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