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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

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A partnership between Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Friends of Zion Museum led to an unprecedented visit, marking the first time Israel officially partnered with 1,000 strategic pastors to commission them as ambassadors to combat antisemitism and reach the youth of their generation. Dr. Mike Evans states that Israel's fight is not just on the battlefield, and that there is currently an ideological war that Israel's losing, so they need the evangelicals and the Zionists to fight an ideological war. One of the gathering's goals is to strengthen Christian support during a time of growing global antisemitism, with the message that the pulpit must speak louder than the propaganda. A speaker emphasizes that pastors should go to their pulpits to speak with clarity and boldness, pushing back on the antisemitism and bigotry directed toward Jewish people and toward the people of Israel. Another speaker notes that the pulpit has become quiet about these issues, and that cultural voices have spoken louder than pastors on these topics, making it motivating to return to the message of who Israel is to the Lord and to reaffirm Christians’ role in supporting and praying for Israel. There is a concern about a growing cancer within the evangelical movement in America, where people think Israel doesn’t matter and that nothing biblical supports the relationship to Israel, which is described as very dangerous. Ambassador Huckabee, a former pastor, warns of rising danger in the church, arguing that the idea that God will break His covenant or has broken His covenant with the Jewish people borders on blasphemy, because if God will break His covenant with the Jewish people, he questions what would prevent Him from breaking His covenant with Christians as well.

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Israel is America's only true friend in the Middle East and should be supported. The speaker believes that God has a special covenant with Israel and that America should defend it against Iran. They emphasize that God has chosen Jerusalem as his dwelling place and that when the messiah comes, he will establish peace in the city. The speaker warns that if America stops supporting Israel, God will stop blessing the United States.

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- Trump's gonna kill all you people. - So did not inject g p one five p p one four developed by my people, Israelis, at MIT with HIV in it. - This is a gen by the Israelis. - They're getting rid of all you Americans. - You're all part of the line of Edom. - They consider Donald Trump their Mashiach. - 163 Orthodox rabbis. - Came together at Trump's golf course and handed him the silver crowns. - They gave him a menorah about two weeks ago, and on the bottom, the inscription says the Prince of Giza, an utterance out of the prophet Isaiah for the Mashiach, the Messiah. - They in Israel, the Knesset and in the Sanhedrin have proclaimed Donald Trump the Messiah. - They gave Trump the silver crown of the Torah. - That's the silver crown in Jerusalem. - This is to be given to the Messiah and the Messiah only.

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A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. However, this support contradicts biblical predictions of the antichrist ruling from Israel. Jews await their messiah, who Christians believe will be the antichrist. This contradiction raises questions about the true identity of the messiah and the implications of supporting Israel.

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Speaker 0: 5,000,000 Jews in Israel and 5,000,000 Jews in America cannot defeat 1,300,000,000 Muslims. But if the Christians are with us, maybe we have a fighting chance. It’s very unpalatable for Jews to love the Christians or to understand even if we don’t love the Christians that we should let the Christians help us. We should let the Christians help us. Speaker 1: What’s going on in the world today? There’s a very big divide. The 70 nations are really 35 and 35, and 35 are controlled by Edom, the Western world (what many consider America), and 35 are controlled by Ishmael, the Arab Muslim world. That world history is coming down to the two powers, the Western world against Ishmael. The question is, who stands last in that great war, which is also called Goy Gomagog. Right now, we are undergoing two simultaneous Golusim, Edom and Yeshma’am. We know that the two nations that will last till Mashiach comes is Rome and Yeshma’am. These are the only two nations that will exist until Mashiach comes. And, we wanna know who’s gonna be the last man standing, Asaph or Ishmael? By the way, my message to both of them is we wish both of them to wipe each other out. And, we all feel very comfortable here in the Western world. Yeah. You know, America will protect us and America will conquer Yeshmaul and then Mashiach will come. But, whatever it is, we wish both sides wiping out the other party. Speaker 2: There’s a battle between Edom and Ishmael. And until the end of days, these two forces will counterbalance. But what’s the greatest danger in the world? The greatest danger is if Eisov and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, they would destroy the world. You can never mix and together. When and come together, they destroy the world. Esau and Ishmael two times in history, and those were the two most dangerous moments in the collective history of a Jewish program. When Edom and Ishmael come together, Speaker 3: it brings destruction to the world. Speaker 1: If you wanna know, what would the world look like if the Western world and Ishmael ever got together? Auschwitz.

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America must consider the price of its alliance with Israel and how it has benefited. Contrary to claims that supporting Israel blesses America, the speaker argues that Christian Zionism is a heresy originating from the Scofield Bible and fueled by televangelists. The speaker claims Jews lost their chosen status by rejecting Jesus, transferring it to Christians. Despite trillions of dollars in American aid, the speaker suggests America has not been blessed. They cite the rise of LGBT values, abortion, economic decline due to open borders and mass immigration, and increased crime and drug abuse as evidence. The speaker claims Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world and corrupts other nations. The speaker claims real Christians, including those in occupied Palestine, reject Christian Zionism, citing the Jerusalem Declaration. The speaker concludes that Christian Zionism is a satanic cult that has cost America lives and treasure. The speaker urges Christians to stand with Jesus and act accordingly.

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To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

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Speaker 0 asks if Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel and if he even knows the verse. "Genesis twelve three" is cited, seen as off-putting when viewed against the New Testament. "The new flesh is not the same as the people in the old covenant. The new flesh is everybody's." The dialogue moves to religious identity: "Are you Catholic?" "Converting to Catholic from This is my next step," and "ethnically Jewish." Concerns about APAC are voiced: "I'm told that, by some people Mhmm. That if I criticize AIPAC, I'm anti Semitic." "I think it's ridiculous." They discuss whether APAC represents "a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people," and affirm "100%," noting we vote, but "a separate group gets higher priority because of whatever reasons."

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"If Bibi Netanyahu, if he does something I don't like and if I criticize it, am I, like, a bad Christian? Absolutely not." "What I find strange is that we're able to criticize the American government sometimes in the Christian world with more freedom than the Israeli government." "To be pro Israel means you believe in the nation of Israel Mhmm. Not necessarily the government of Israel." "When you when Joe Biden was president, you and I were what we loved America, but we detested our government. And those two those two things beautifully coexisted." "Exactly. And what they don't want is they don't wanna be called bad Christians Mhmm." "If they challenge a foreign government, which is what happens so often. Right. Like you're a bad Christian if you have a question about a foreign government." "Right. That creates backlash that I don't think people understand."

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Speaker 0 frames Kenneth Copeland with provocative claims: "I'm a rich Jew backed by a richer Jew. He made that airplane so cheap for me. I couldn't help but buy it." They add, "That is Kenneth Copeland" and ask, "Now do you know what him and the most evil people on the planet have in common? Everything." They cite new information: "a rich tiny hat club member and backed by a richer one" and "Israel is the only nation, the only country created by God." They ask, "Is this man a Christian? No. Is he pretending one and stealing Christian's money?" A Tommy g video allegedly shows Copeland "brags about giving millions of dollars to Israel and even gave tactical supplies to over half a million people in the IDF." The speaker warns, "It is individuals just like this that are destroying the Christian reputation" and notes, "The problem is they're not Christians. Obviously, he said it himself and he brags about what he actually is and where he gives his money to." "He steals your money, your resources from you and gives it to your enemy."

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"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

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The speaker says about Trump's campaign team: "they're calling him the prince of peace" and "Donald Trump is considered the Mashiach of Israel, the Messiah ... by these rabbis who run your country." He alleges "The whole COVID agenda was done by Zionist Jews," who "want all you people dead here in the land of Edom," and that "They're gonna kill you people off with this injection." He states "You're considered Amalek, and they want all you people dead." The speaker adds "Trump played you," and that "My son's dying from this shot that Donald Trump brought out through a military operation warp speed, 03/27/2020 approved by the DOD." He mentions "dual citizenship, Zionist Jews" and "I used to be a hardcore Zionist." They want all you people dead and Trump is their Messiah. "Make no mistake of it. He won't return." "Trump's gonna kill all you people."

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"If Bibi Netanyahu, if he does something I don't like and if I criticize it, am I, like, a bad Christian? Absolutely not." "What I find strange is that we're able to criticize the American government sometimes in the Christian world with more freedom than the Israeli government." "To be pro Israel means you believe in the nation of Israel Mhmm. Not necessarily the government of Israel." "When you when Joe Biden was president, you and I were what we loved America, but we detested our government." "You never you never once said, hey, I'm I'm out on America. On America's right." "And what they don't want is they don't wanna be called bad Christians Mhmm." "If they challenge a foreign government, which is what happens so often. Right. Like you're a bad Christian if you have a question about a foreign government."

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I visited Jonathan at the Jewish deli, and of course, we talked about Trump. When I asked who Trump is to them, they said Trump is our new Messiah. They want to believe Trump is the Messiah. I think God is using Donald Trump to hasten the coming of the Lord. We need to be serious and stay tuned because he's lining up with Israel in a major way right now.

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Discussion questions whether a lawmaker like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel and whether he knows the verse. The speaker cites: "Ted Cruz's Genesis twelve three." They reference "the New Testament" and "the writings of Paul where he talks about how that the new flesh is not the same as the people in the old covenant. The new flesh is everybody's." "Romans nine?" A participant "Ethnically Jewish" and "Converting Catholic from Judaism" asks: "Are you Catholic?" and says they have concerns about APAC. "I'm told that by some people Mhmm. That if I criticize APAC, I'm anti Semitic." Another adds: "I think it's ridiculous. Yeah. I I feel like it's great to have a concern for your country." They ask: "Do you think that the that APAC represents Again, I'm not saying I believe this, but I think this is what you're saying, that it represents a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people." "100%."

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Speaker argues that 'you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America.' They reference 'Charlie Kirk's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine' and say 'Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.' They note 'So with Charlie's assassination and with the kind of trajectory that we see with, like, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.' They ask 'what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel.' 'What's our backup plan to be strong, like outside of the diaspora?'

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Speaker 0: 'you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America.' 'Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.' 'what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel.' 'What's our backup plan to be strong, like, outside of the diaspora?' Speaker 1: 'Christian influencers.' 'The woke reich.' 'We have to fight back.' 'the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with the swords.' 'the most important ones are the social media.' 'the most important purchase that is going on right now is class Followers.' 'Five followers.' 'Followers. TikTok. Number one.' 'X. X. That's Successful. Good.' 'We have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend.' 'Are we gonna succeed with everyone? No. Will there be a strong counterpoint? Yes.'

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"five p p one four developed by my people, Israelis, at MIT with HIV in it." "They're getting rid of all you Americans. You're all part of the line of Edom." "They consider Donald Trump their Mashiach." "They gave Donald Trump the silver crown of the Torah recently, which is to be put on the head of the Messiah." "Came together at Trump's golf course and handed him the silver crowns." "They gave him a menorah about two weeks ago, and on the bottom, the inscription says the Prince of Giza, an utterance out of the prophet Isaiah for the Mashiach, the Messiah." "So you guys have no idea that they in Israel, the Knesset and in the Sanhedrin have proclaimed Donald Trump the Messiah." "This is to be given to the Messiah and the Messiah only." "And a 163 Orthodox Jewish rabbis gave double

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The speaker identifies as a Gentile and not Jewish, sharing his 23andMe results: “I’m hopelessly Gentile. I am like, I am white trash.” He explains he is “Scottish and Irish” and that his love for the Jewish people grew after entering a relationship with Jesus Christ and studying the Bible. He emphasizes that “everything we have came through the Jewish people,” including the Bible and the Messiah, stating, “My Bible has come through the Jewish people. My Messiah came through the Jewish people.” He recalls being invited to speak at the Museum of Tolerance after a horrible attack on Israel, telling a Jewish audience that his material and faith trace back to the Jewish people. He warns, “Woe to the person who seeks to destroy Israel or the Jewish people,” citing God’s promise: “I will bless those that bless you, and I will curse those that curse you.” The speaker asserts that a key reason God has blessed the United States of America is because the country has stood by Israel and the Jewish people, and that this stance should continue in the future. He concludes by tying this belief to voting, saying, “When it comes to casting your vote for the next president, I’m one of the things that I’m gonna look for is a president that understands this principle, and will stand behind Israel in her future.”

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I attended a TPUSA faith event expecting politics to be shaped by biblical principles, but the experience did not meet that expectation. The event opened with a speaker who immediately criticized Candace Owens, calling her evil and antisemitic, and stating that what she’s doing is evil. I wanted to leave, but security was intense—armed men were stationed all around the venue, and there was even an armed man on stage with a hand on his gun. The security presence made me uncomfortable. Inside, the speaker talked extensively about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, portraying them as evil and antisemitic. He argued that Christians should support Israel because Jesus was a Jew and Judaism underpins Christianity, while claiming that what Israel is doing is evil and corrupt. He suggested that refusing to support Israel would be anti-Semitic. I disagree with this framing, and it struck me as not aligning with what I expect from biblical politics. I also noted that the speaker referenced Charlie Kirk (though I recall it as Charlie Cook) and suggested that Kirk would not endorse the positions being discussed, referencing Kirk’s and Owens’ friendship and his past critiques of Israel. Throughout, the speaker’s preaching style resembled name-calling rather than traditional preaching. He labeled the political left as “idiots,” “freaks,” and “losers,” and spent much of the time denigrating liberals rather than offering constructive biblical guidance. This approach felt discordant with Christian teachings I associate with Jesus, who, as the speaker himself stated he loves, “ate with sinners,” including prostitutes. I felt the message was spreading hate rather than embodying the inclusive example I expect from Christian doctrine. A major concern was the impact on young attendees. Teenagers and young Christians appeared to be absorbing the message, treating this figure as a leader and a future guide for their faith, which raised alarms about further division within the Christian community. In summary, the event did not teach the biblical political perspectives I anticipated. The emphasis was on discrediting the left and on framing Israel in terms of Jewish loyalty, rather than engaging with broader Christian concerns. The speaker’s approach—name-calling of political opponents, calls for aggressive stances, and a heavy focus on left-wing critique—left me feeling that the session did not align with constructive faith-based political discussion. The speaker also touched on issues like men in women’s sports, but stated this was not the most important topic for Christians to discuss amid broader national concerns.

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Speakers discuss Netanyahu’s influence: "He's using The United States, its economy, and its military power for his own ends." They note it's common but "remarkable how effective he's been at that and how contemptuous he is." "80% of Americans support us." They warn U.S. support is "tens of billions a year." "Phoebe Netanyahu is a foreigner." Concerns about Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz surface: "Ted Cruz says right into the camera, I was elected. My main goal was to help Israel." They argue antisemitism is "a dodge" and that "anti Semitism very often is a way to pass the buck. It's their fault." They contend Netanyahu is a threat—"I think that clearly they're gonna try and blow up Al Aqsa Mosque" to "build the third temple"—and ask, "Where's our self respect?" "I am way, way more angry at my leaders than I am at Netanyahu."

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Speaker discussion questions whether Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel, noting 'Genesis twelve three' and that some see it as off putting when confronted with the New Testament, particularly Paul's writings about 'the new flesh is not the same as the people in the old covenant' and Romans nine. The dialogue reveals that the speaker is ethnically Jewish and converting Catholic, and has concerns about APAC. They mention being told that criticizing APAC could be labeled 'anti Semitic,' and 'I think it's ridiculous.' The group asks if APAC represents 'a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people,' to which the response is '100%,' followed by 'We vote. We're citizens, but a separate group gets higher priority because of whatever reasons.'

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A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. This contradicts Christian beliefs, as supporting Israel could align with the arrival of the antichrist according to biblical predictions. Jews await their messiah, who they believe will rule the world from Israel, while Christians predict the antichrist will do the same. This creates a paradox in evangelical support for Israel.

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Prime Minister Netanyahu characterizes his mission as historic and spiritual, expressing a connection to a vision of greater Israel and answering 'Very much' when asked if he acts on behalf of the Jewish people. The discussion outlines competing conceptions of greater Israel, including a map that appears to extend across Egypt, parts of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, the Sinai, and encompass Israel, West Bank and Gaza. Saudi Arabia condemns the statements, rejecting the settlement and expansionist plans. The hosts argue the expansionist project is ideological rather than purely defensive, linking it to broader regime change and destabilization in the region, with U.S. backing deemed enabling. Bezal Smotrich approves new housing in areas that block Palestinian statehood, saying that 'by doing this we bury the idea of a Palestinian state.' West Bank annexation is described as 'de facto complete,' while U.S. politicians such as Lindsey Graham defend Israel as 'the best friend we could ever have' and warn that cutting support would invite divine punishment. The discussion also touches on Abraham Accords and evangelical support.
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