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Speaker 0 expresses a view that the government is full of liars, accusing both sides of the political spectrum of dishonesty. The conversation then shifts to a provocative claim: "They insisted Hitler was bad and he was not. You don't think Hitler was bad? No. Not at all. There was no holocaust." This remark represents a stark reversal of widely accepted historical consensus, asserting that there was no Holocaust. The speaker describes a surprising personal justification for this belief, saying, "I've I've seen evidence. I my aunt Georgie was in a prison camp and she told me about it and there was no torture, there was no killing." The claim places emphasis on the anecdote of the speaker’s aunt, Georgie, who allegedly was "in a prison camp" and told the speaker about it, specifically asserting that "there was no torture" and "there was no murder." The speaker then elaborates that the aunt was "a Jew in in Germany," which adds a personal and ethnic dimension to the claim, suggesting that a Jewish person in Germany would have firsthand experience of the camp. In continuing, the speaker reiterates the assertion: "There was no torture. There was no murder." The description of the alleged camp life offered by the aunt includes contrasting details such as "films," "an orchestra," "movies," and "a soccer team," painting a picture of a benign environment within the context of a Nazi-prison setting. A further provocative assertion is included: "A Jew started the SS." This statement is presented as part of the aunt’s account or the speaker’s interpretation of the camp’s history, introducing a controversial claim about the origins of the Schutzstaffel. Overall, the speaker challenges the widely accepted historical record by claiming that Hitler was not bad, that there was no Holocaust, and that the aunt’s testimony describes a benign camp life with cultural and recreational elements, culminating in the assertion that a Jew started the SS. The dialogue thus presents a sequence of controversial statements grounded in the speaker’s belief based on an account from their aunt Georgie.

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The speaker claims Winston Churchill's mother was Jewish and that Churchill was financed by a secret group called The Focus, primarily composed of Jewish industrialists and bankers, from 1936 onward. This group allegedly influenced Churchill to adopt an anti-Nazi stance, leading to his rise to Prime Minister and Britain's involvement in a war that was not in its best interest. The speaker suggests Britain should have allowed Poland and the Jews to resolve their issues with Germany independently. He cites a letter from Chaim Weizmann to Churchill in 1941, stating that Zionist support for the British cause and their ability to bring the United States into the war were contingent on the creation of a Jewish army in the Middle East. The speaker asserts that Churchill became a "gentile frontman" for Jewish interests, naming Robert Monde, Robert Valley Cohen, and Berna Baruch as examples. He also claims Neville Chamberlain believed American and world Jews forced England into the war. The speaker quotes the Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago as stating that the war was brought about by Jews. Churchill allegedly rejected peace offers from Germany, even when Britain was isolated, as confirmed in a letter to Stalin.

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Keiser Rudolf had the one. The speaker has told this story many times since 1991. They are gradually getting more documents, but the British government is withholding many more files, which is shameful. Rudolf Hess came to Britain in 1941 to try to stop what he thought was inevitable. Listening to him would have saved millions of lives, but Winston Churchill's vanity led to a different route, resulting in millions of deaths and Britain losing everything. The speaker believes Britain had a great empire that was a force for good, but it was lost due to a mad, drunken prime minister's vanity. "Drunk in charge of an empire" should be Churchill's epitaph.

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In 1931, the national government seemed inadequate. Oswald Mosley appeared to know the answer and struck a chord with many people. Looking back, Mosley was right, a view shared even by political opponents like Richard Crossman. Mosley was an early Keynesian, and had his advice been taken, things would have been different. The speaker fell in love with him, drawn to his action-oriented nature. Meeting Mosley shook the speaker up, but she maintained her old friendships and continued traveling. She was willing to do things if they involved him.

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The speaker claims she lost 20 pounds because Ghislaine told her she wasn't allowed to eat at a Jewish country club because she wasn't Jewish. The speaker says Ghislaine and others acted as if their DNA was superior. She found Jeffrey Epstein less horrible than Ghislaine, who she alleges was "raping just as many children." The speaker says she was made to feel useless for not being Jewish and was called names. She says Jeffrey and Ghislaine spoke about African Americans in a horrifying way, and that they believed they were chosen. The speaker recalls Isabel asking her mother, Aileen, why she called Maria a nobody, to which Aileen replied that Maria was a nobody because she wasn't Jewish. Speaker 1 claims the Maxwell family is associated with Chabad Lubavitch, a group that allegedly believes only Jews are human.

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Diana admitted to adultery and bulimia in a candid interview, revealing Buckingham Palace's attempts to intercept her mail and tarnish her reputation. She believed there was a campaign against her due to being the separated wife of the Prince of Wales. Despite the establishment viewing her as a nonstarter, she vowed to fight till the end, as she had a role to fulfill and two children to raise. Diana didn't think she would ever become queen, as the establishment didn't want her in that position. She believed the monarchy needed to adapt and change to improve its relationship with the public.

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Amelia introduces herself, saying she’s English and loves England. The other speaker responds with a set of personal preferences—fish and chips, a pint at the local pub, Shakespeare, Dickens, Tolkien, Lewis, Harry Potter, pork sausage, dogs, and fashion—and then declares “Haram. Haram,” followed by anti-immigrant and anti-Islamic statements. They express frustration that Brits are polite but unwilling to “commit cultural suicide,” condemning the Church of England and the BBC as “a bunch of queers and nonces.” They question how the country could move from Churchill to the current leadership, naming Sadiq Khan and London as not Afghanistan or Star Wars. They claim the government won’t protect schoolgirls from grooming gangs and that the police won’t help, accusing law enforcement of prioritizing other concerns, including confiscating garden tools and suppressing free speech. A police encounter is depicted where a woman is arrested for tweeting rudely. They insist curry is fine but argue Britain doesn’t need “2,000,000 Indians here” to cook it, and they assert there are “50 Islamic nations” and that Muslims don’t need to be on the island because they want to conquer it. They state the government dictates the way things must be, and ask if that’s right, addressed to “Robin Hood.” The speaker uses imagery of dragons threatening England, suggesting brave knights must rise to slay them, and questions whether British bloodlines with any bollocks were killed off in World Wars I and II. They declare English men’s country being taken from them, saying it doesn’t matter if you’re “Chav” or “posh”—everyone is in this together. They express concern about the future of the women of England—and imply that women in Iran and Afghanistan wouldn’t want this either. They reference ancestors who defeated the Spanish Armada, Napoleon, and the Nazis, implying resilience of English history. They ask if people can handle welfare tourists, asserting that history will record what actions are taken. The message ends with a call to “Get cracking, lads. Love, Amelia.”

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Hitler was labeled a fascist, but he was actually a socialist. Fascism is a left-wing ideology where the government controls what you can do with your property. The Nazis were put on trial by the communists, who came out looking better despite having killed more people. Ayn Rand believes that all these "isms" are nonsense and that it's really about individualism versus collectivism. Collectivists are communist fascists who lie and steal from you.

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Adolf Hitler's major crime was freeing Germany from crippling debt by printing their own money. He revitalized the country, leading it to prosperity. The speaker suggests confronting the financial system by printing our own money. They argue that Hitler's actions were not those of an evil man, but of someone who loved his country and its people. Genuine smiles on Germans' faces meeting Hitler reflect their gratitude for the improved living conditions. This challenges the negative narrative surrounding Hitler and encourages reevaluation of history.

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Oswald claims he was never anti-Semitic, defining it as attacking Jews based on race or religion. His quarrel was with some Jews who he believed were provoking a second World War to aid their co-religionists in Germany. He felt a minority shouldn't dictate policy against national interest, resulting in 50 million deaths. He defends calling hecklers "sweepings of the ghetto" as a rough response to foreigners disrupting an English meeting. He argues his arguments would not have been better addressed to Hitler, whose policy was different from his own. Looking back, Oswald blames both Hitler and Jews for World War II. He says Hitler was impatient to unite Germans eastward, while some Jews influenced Britain to guarantee Poland, which led to war. He claims he never wanted to persecute Jews, only defended his meetings from Jewish attacks. He describes the Olympia meeting where people marched from East London to disrupt it, leading to fighting and cinema lights being turned onto the audience.

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Germany before the war had a high standard of living, with benefits like loans for marriage and children. After the war, the city was in ruins, with millions of Germans dying under Allied brutality. General Patton lamented the destruction of a good race and the spread of communism. Women in Berlin faced violence, and allies of Germany fought against communism, including democracies like Finland and Romania.

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The speaker visited Germany in 1933 because the papers were full of what was happening there. Someone offered to introduce her to Hitler, and she was extremely interested, as everyone was at the time. Upon meeting him, she found him to be a very interesting and fascinating man. The speaker emphasizes that Hitler was charming and completely different from anyone she had ever met. She notes that he possessed something special to rise from being an out-of-work painter to dictator of Germany. When asked about Hitler's responsibility for the deaths of 6,000,000 Jews, the speaker states that it is inexcusable. She says the man she knew was not someone she could have believed capable of such acts. She also points out that other dictators have killed more people than Hitler, yet were still visited and found charming by world leaders long after committing their crimes. She initially didn't believe the reports of atrocities, but eventually accepted them.

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In the 1930s, Hitler was given power by the wealthy, powerful, and complacent elite who thought they could control him. They believed his extreme views were just for show. However, like other dictators, Hitler brought death and despair. Millions of Germans thought it couldn't happen there. In 1933, Germany was wrong. The speaker questions if the same mistake will be made today. Hitler asks if he will become a dictator, to which he denies.

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Said to Kennedy, you watch when Adolf Hitler begins bombing London and towns in Britain like Boston and Lincoln, towns with their counterparts in The United States. You Americans will have to come in, won't you? You can't just stand aside and watch us suffering. But he knew from code breaking. He knew from reading the German Air Force signals, which we had broken on March or 05/26/1940, that Hitler had given orders that no British town was to be bombed. London was completely embargoed. German air force was allowed to bomb ports and harbors and dockyards, but not towns as such. And Churchill was greatly aggrieved by this, and he wondered how much longer Hitler could avoid carrying on war like this. But Hitler, as we know, carried on until September 1940 without bombing any English towns. The embargo stayed in force. You can see it in the German archives now, and we know from the code breaking of the German signals that Churchill was reading Hitler's orders to the German Air Force, not on any account to bomb these towns. So there was no way that we could drag in the Americans that way unless we could provoke Hitler to do it, which is why on 08/25/1940, Churchill gave the order to the British Air Force to go and bomb Berlin. Although the chief of the bomber command and chief of staff of the British Air Force warned him that if we bomb Berlin, Hitler may very well lift the embargo on British towns. And Churchill just twinkled because it was what he wanted, of course. At 09:15 that morning, he telephoned personal bomber command himself to order the bombing of Berlin, a 100 bombers to go and bomb Berlin. They went out to bomb Berlin that night, and Hitler still didn't move. Hitler ordered another aid on Berlin, and so it went on for the next seven or ten days until finally on September 4, Hitler lost his patience and made that famous speech in the Sport Palace in Berlin in which he said, this madman has bombed Berlin now seven times. He bombs Berlin once more than I shall not only just attack their towns, I shall wipe them out. A very famous speech. Of course, German school children are now told about the Hitler speech. They're not told about what went first. They're not told how Churchill sent out deliberately to provoke the bombing of his own capital. And on the following day, Churchill ordered Berlin bombed again. And the result was the German air force started bombing the docks in London, the East End Of London, finally, city Of London and the West End on the September 1940. In September 1940, 7,000 Londoners were killed in the bombing as a result of Churchill's deliberate provocation. The files are there. The archives are there. No wonder Harold Macmillan didn't want my book published.

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Speaker 0 argues that it’s logistically absurd to claim the Holocaust involved gassing millions and hauling bodies from so-called gas chambers, noting the inefficiency of that method. He points out the irony that the person most famous for gassing people refused to use gas that could have won the war, because he would not be the first to use gas, despite having 20,000 kilograms of tabun and sarin. He asserts there were no counters to that chemical weapon, yet the decision not to use gas led to the downfall of his country. Speaker 1 adds that Hitler was gassed himself at the end of World War I, which blinded him. During the fall of the Kaiser’s empire, the Reich’s collapse and the emergence of Bolshevik and Weimar structures occurred as some German states did not join the Weimar Republic and became sub-states or Soviet-like entities. Speaker 0 emphasizes that anyone uncertain about Hitler’s legacy should read Mein Kampf and hear from Hitler’s own words to understand why he held his beliefs. He claims Hitler did not begin as an anti-Semite intent on killing Jews, and describes Hitler as someone who admired and observed the universe, was a truth-seeker from day one, engaged in political discussions, and was fascinated by philosophy, German history, the British Empire, and America. He notes Hitler was well-read and well-spoken, but deprived economically, working as a day laborer with little work available to feed himself. He claims Hitler went days without food to afford a book, showing a love of knowledge, and that he wasn’t a failed artist; he was a talented artist whose path could have been architecture rather than drawing. Speaker 0 contends that smear campaigns against Hitler fail and are “nonsense.” He dismisses more extreme claims as false, such as insults about Hitler’s sexuality or anatomy, and mentions that such accusations are common against many figures. Speaker 1 comments that a lot of the negative rumors about Hitler (e.g., perverse claims) are typical allegations made against many people, implying they are not unique to Hitler.

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I was born in Austria and lived there during Hitler's regime and the Soviet communist occupation after World War 2. Contrary to what the media reported, Hitler was elected by the Austrian people with 98% of the vote. Initially, Hitler didn't seem like a monster and talked like an American politician. Gun registration was introduced to ensure safety, claiming that guns were dangerous and led to accidents. Gradually, over five years, Austria transitioned into a dictatorship. When the people fear the government, it becomes tyranny, but when the government fears the people, that's you.

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Something is approaching, and it won't be stopped. Look around; darkness is prevalent. My hatred manifests in various forms. We have a plan to assassinate the Fuhrer, and you will act as our spy in Ignat. Churchill views Germany as a threat, fearing that a bomb linked to England could lead to invasion or worse. I'm prepared to face my destiny in silence.

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The speaker discusses claims about Winston Churchill’s possible Jewish heritage. They say Churchill’s mother was Jewish, reported in a Jerusalem newspaper a few months prior, and that Churchill may have Jewish blood in her maternal line. The speaker notes Churchill likely was not aware of this. They then focus on Churchill’s connections with the Jewish community, emphasizing two key periods: the “wilderness” years after he resigned from Stanley Baldwin’s cabinet, when he remained out of government from 1919 to 1939, and relied on his MP salary and modest earnings from journalism. Despite not holding office, Churchill maintained a large country estate with extensive staff, including gardeners, nurseries, nurses, nannies, cooks, and housekeepers, sometimes 20–30 people. The speaker provides financial details: his MP salary at the time was £500 per annum (about $750, or $2,000 given the rate of $4 per pound). The question raised is how he supported this setup. The answer offered is that from 1936 onward, Churchill was financed by a secret pressure group called the Focus. The Focus allegedly consisted of about 30–40 leading British industrialists, bankers, and former politicians who decided Churchill was worth supporting. The group is described as not exclusively Jewish; while primarily Jewish, they also included left-wing socialists and left-wing Conservative MPs who backed him. As evidence, the speaker cites a July 1936 gift from the then-chairman of Shell Petroleum Company, who wrote a check for Churchill in the order of 40,000 (modern equivalent around $700,000) as a gift. The narrative asserts that Churchill was “bought” with this Jewish gift to support him.

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Speaker 1 asserts that Hitler was the aggressor of World War II, beginning the war by driving east with the intention of destroying communist Russia. He states that Britain intervened and declared war to prevent Hitler from achieving that objective, and as a result, Britain “today” has to maneuver back and forth between America and Russia. He claims that Britain has “lost the empire,” that 25,000,000 Europeans were killed, and that he is proud to have done his utmost to stop what he describes as a suicidal war that “has destroyed Great Britain.” Speaker 0 acknowledges this sequence and asks for the precise words spoken in 1939, requesting to know what Speaker 1 claimed at that time, specifically referencing the assertion that the conflict was “simply a Jewish financier's quarrel.”

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During the war, politicians declared they were fighting for freedom, but Speaker 0 and her husband felt the war was a mistake, believing Great Britain would lose regardless. Her husband foresaw Russia's rise in Europe and the unfortunate state of Poland, the country for which they ostensibly went to war. Despite advocating for peace while the British Empire was intact, her husband was arrested, followed by Speaker 0. Imprisonment in Holloway was disagreeable. As prisoners on remand, they retained certain privileges but faced uncomfortable conditions. Speaker 0 felt bitter and knew she was innocent. Following a bomb that broke the water mains in the prison, Speaker 0 told her solicitor that the Tories, including Churchill, ought to be shot because of the revolting conditions. Churchill, a cousin by marriage, later learned of the outburst. Speaker 0 clarified that she didn't actually want to shoot him and wrote him a letter.

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Happy birthday, communism. This year marks 100 years since its inception. The Bolsheviks aimed to end capitalist exploitation, but resistance led to violence under Lenin and Stalin, resulting in millions of deaths and starvation. Despite this, some still believe in communism, as seen in China, where even after suffering, people revered Mao. Lily Tang Williams, who grew up during this time, later discovered her rights through an American exchange student. She moved to the U.S. and thrived, eventually running for the Senate as a libertarian. Disillusioned by both parties' failures, she became an activist, advocating for individual rights and warning against government overreach. She emphasizes the importance of remembering the lessons of communism and encourages young people to recognize the dangers of a powerful government.

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Speaker 0 asks what group they are with and then expresses belief in the Holocaust. They question why it is illegal to question the Holocaust in 18 countries. When asked if they think it should be illegal to question the Holocaust, they answer yes. The speaker mentions being in 3 seats and wanting power. They tell someone to leave and make a crude comment about subscribing to someone's beliefs.

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The current state of Great Britain raises questions about its post-war recovery, especially considering the long rationing period. There's frustration over the alliance with Stalin during WWII, particularly the decision to hand Poland to him after fighting to protect it. The moral implications of this alliance are troubling, as it undermines any moral authority to lecture others. While acknowledging the threat of Hitler, there's a call for a reassessment of Churchill's actions and their consequences for Western civilization. Despite defeating the Nazis, the decline of Western values and Christianity is concerning. The discussion highlights the complexity of historical leadership and the ongoing impact on society today.

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Hitler rose to power amidst German misery, promising to restore the nation. He eliminated unemployment and stamped out political opposition, consolidating power. Laws were enacted that turned Jews into second-class citizens, and opposition was eradicated. The 1936 Olympics showcased Hitler's Germany, and he later met with David Lloyd George, who was impressed. Secretly, Hitler prepared for war, rearming Germany. Eva Braun, Hitler's mistress, documented his private life, but their relationship was strained. Hitler formed alliances with Mussolini and Japan, then annexed Austria. He demanded self-determination for Germans in Czechoslovakia, leading to the Munich Agreement. In 1939, Hitler invaded Poland, triggering World War II. Initial victories were followed by the defeat at Stalingrad. Allied bombing devastated German cities. As the war turned against Germany, Hitler retreated to his bunker, blaming betrayal. Allied forces liberated concentration camps, revealing Nazi atrocities. In 1945, with the Red Army in Berlin, Hitler married Eva Braun and committed suicide, leaving Germany in ruins. In his final testament, Hitler claimed the war was provoked by the Jews.

The Rubin Report

Identity Politics, Islam, and Hate Speech | Katie Hopkins | POLITICS | Rubin Report
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As summer approaches, Dave Rubin shares updates on his plans and reflects on his recent conversation with Patreon CEO Jack KY, emphasizing the importance of free speech and the complexities of New Media. He discusses the need to disconnect from the online world, expressing his intention to take a break from social media until September 5th while continuing to release new episodes of the Rubin Report featuring various guests. Rubin introduces British commentator Katie Hopkins, who expresses her enthusiasm for political engagement and the excitement surrounding events like Politicon. They discuss the current political climate, with Hopkins noting that Trump's presidency has invigorated political participation in America, contrasting it with the challenges faced in the UK regarding Brexit and rising crime rates. Hopkins shares her background, including her unexpected rise in media after participating in The Apprentice. She highlights the silencing tactics used against her and others with dissenting views, criticizing the left for attempting to discredit rather than engage in meaningful debate. They explore the intersection of feminism and Islam, discussing the complexities of multiculturalism in the UK, where communities remain segregated rather than integrated. The conversation touches on the failures of the British political system to address pressing issues, with Hopkins lamenting the lack of strong leadership following Brexit. She expresses her commitment to advocating for free speech and individual liberty, emphasizing the need for a more positive conservative message that promotes personal responsibility and accountability. Hopkins concludes by discussing her future plans, including a forthcoming book and a new program aimed at amplifying voices that challenge the establishment narrative. She remains determined to continue her work, asserting that efforts to silence her will only strengthen her resolve.
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