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An individual, a citizen of El Salvador, was illegally in the U.S. and was returned to his country, which is standard deportation procedure. The foreign policy of the U.S. is conducted by the president, not by a court. The Supreme Court stated that no court has the authority to compel a foreign policy function in the U.S. The speaker claims that President Trump's policy is to expel foreign terrorists who are here illegally. The speaker asks why it isn't stated that keeping criminals out of the country is a positive thing, and accuses the previous speaker of lacking credibility.

The speaker questions the number of people deported out of the 2 million encounters and releases at the border. The secretary avoids answering the question and claims the immigration system is broken. The speaker presses for a specific number of non-criminal deportations, but the secretary doesn't provide an answer. The speaker also criticizes the lack of removals for those who received removal orders. The secretary denies this claim. The speaker accuses the secretary of implementing a policy that allows people to stay in the country without committing a crime, burdening social services. The secretary denies this and defends the safe and orderly pathways policy. The speaker argues that encounters at ports of entry have increased, suggesting corruption within the Mexican government. The secretary disagrees with the speaker's statements but fails to provide any numbers. The speaker concludes that the Mexican government and the secretary are influenced by cartels.

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were on board with this for years. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

The speaker contrasts European political responses to immigration and crime with American policies, arguing that European left-wing politicians ignore urgent problems. They claim: - In Spain, “they just legalized residents of half a million illegal aliens.” - In France, “they throw grenades into hair salons in a broad daylight.” - In Germany, “not a single day goes by without someone being murdered with a knife.” - In Sweden, “you have bomb attack every other day.” The speaker asserts that these are real problems for the European left-wing politicians, yet contends that those politicians do not care. The immediate target is a European debate about the rule of law in the United States and deportation policies: the speaker says, “You are seriously discussing here the rule of law in United States and criticizing American government for deporting illegal aliens, for deporting criminals out of their territory in the same time when Western European cities are gradually turning into a war zone.” A call is made to apply the same approach in Europe: “We should do exactly the same. We should deport them from Europe and not legalize their stay.” The speaker urges listening to them and not to “what you are proposing to all of us,” asserting that “Everybody can see, no, you are enemies of Europe. You hate Europe.” The rhetoric culminates in a warning: “You hate our nations, and you want to destroy the future for our children. We should stop you. We should defeat you politically if we want to survive. Otherwise, it will be the end of Europe.”

The speaker claims illegal border crossings have gone from 10,000 to zero, and that ICE and border patrol morale is at an all-time high. They assert Mexico is no longer cooperating with illegal immigration efforts because they are afraid. The speaker states the border wall will be completed to the Gulf in some form. They claim comprehensive immigration reform is unnecessary, and that simply enforcing existing laws has been successful.

The speaker claims the mainstream media doesn't want to cover the story of violent criminals being removed from the country. The speaker says they have gotten violent criminals and "low lives" off the streets and removed them from the country since taking office. They claim last month had the lowest border crossings on record due to a new president, not new legislation. The speaker states that over 5,000 children have been reunited with their families or a safe guardian since they came into office. The speaker says they are cleaning up communities by removing people who have committed heinous and violent crimes. The speaker says these removals are a matter of law and order.

The speaker claims the incoming administration wants to rectify abuses by enforcing immigration law, stating that those who entered illegally should leave. They allege the administration is stopping deportations. The speaker asserts that, according to the courts, it is lawful to be unlawful if you're Joe Biden, but unlawful to be lawful if you're Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 confirmed signing a memo but denied being the author of the family separation policy. Speaker 1 stated they gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives. Speaker 2 claimed that Speaker 1 recommended family separation as option three. Speaker 1 stated they recommended zero tolerance, the same as when any US citizen parent gets arrested with a child. Speaker 2 stated that legal asylees are not charged with any crime. Speaker 1 stated that being in the country illegally is a violation and that if one wants to seek asylum, they should do it the legal way at the port of entry. Speaker 1 referred to a congresswoman as the dumbest ever to listen to congress.

You treating migrants humanely? No, reports show they’re on planes without water. That’s nonsense. Our detention facilities exceed all standards. Check the ICE website for our performance-based standards; they’re the highest in the industry. But are you only detaining illegal criminals? There are reports of students showing bruises from deportation flights. That’s absurd. We investigate any claims. The ICE professionals I led uphold the highest standards. We care for detainees while enforcing the law without apology. Are you using military planes for deportations as a tactic? No, we’re securing the border, which is a national security risk. Illegal entry is a crime. The current crisis overwhelms border security, leading to increased drug trafficking and terrorism. President Trump will secure the border and enforce immigration laws without hesitation. Expect our efforts to intensify soon.

Speaker 0 argues that the premise is disgusting and cites CBS admitting that sixty percent of those arrested had criminal charges or convictions, while noting the majority were non-violent. They question what “non-violent” includes, listing drug trafficking, child porn, fraud, DUI, and human smuggling, and mock the idea of those as harmless offenses. They accuse CBS of trying to influence public perception and claim, “What are you trying to do here? It’s like you want more people to die.” They proceed to highlight CBS’s claim that forty percent of ICE arrestees had no criminal past, arguing the distinction should be about status in The US. They counter with examples: an MS-13 member who shot, tortured, and murdered five people but “forget it, in El Salvador,” suggesting he’s nonviolent because he wasn’t convicted in the US. They compare this to other cases where alleged criminals killed in the US had no prior US criminal history, and to scammers running fake day cares who haven’t been prosecuted yet. The speaker contends that crimes committed outside The US do not count, and posits that we should owe Nicolas Maduro an apology. They note that this is coming from “the same media that lectures one death is too many, which is used to justify insane regulations in public health policies,” referencing the pandemic and the claim that “a single death is a tragedy,” contrasted with a later statement about a jogger being killed during lunch. They frame the report as an effort to stop deporting bad people by portraying the target as peaceful illegals and by saying they lied when they claimed to do “the worst first.” They argue that resisting the goal of deporting the worst first forced ICE to use a wider net that included all illegals. They claim that if Waltz or Fry had cooperated, the issue would never have arisen, and state that their goal was to prevent deporting criminals so ICE would be forced to sift through all illegals, which would be a political win for those who would say, “They’re not going after the worst after all.” The speaker concludes it’s moronic, not to protect people but to protect political power, and that this allows the narrative to say a murderous felon came here looking for a better life, when in fact, it was a better knife.

The speaker asserts that the Democratic party opposes federal enforcement of immigration laws and arrests/deportations of illegal alien criminals, using a "violent mob" to obstruct immigration law enforcement. They claim President Trump has a mandate to reverse Biden's open border policies and end the lawlessness of California's leaders, promising a large-scale deportation campaign undeterred by left-wing riots. Sanctuary cities will allegedly no longer shield illegal criminals. Examples of removed individuals include a Vietnamese national convicted of murder, a Mexican national convicted of child molestation, a Filipino national convicted of rape, and others with convictions for statutory rape, narcotics violations, domestic violence, and assault. An illegal alien from Mexico was arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail at law enforcement. The speaker claims law-abiding citizens don't want these individuals in their communities. Any attempts to copy the violence to stop deportation efforts will fail, and lawlessness will strengthen the president's resolve to defend Americans from violent criminal illegal aliens.

Speaker 0 argues that the federal government has made clear that the statutory term for certain non-citizens is "illegal aliens," and that this choice is intended to water down the issue compared to the label "undocumented." They illustrate this by comparing undocumented to someone who forgets a wallet but still has a right to drive; the analogy suggests that even with a missing document, some rights remain, whereas crossing into the country illegally is presented as a deliberate act. The speaker contends that the matter is not simply about missing a document, but about knowingly violating the law. They assert that entering the country illegally is an intentional act, not a mere mistake. The speaker emphasizes that this is done knowingly and, in many cases, with the help of the cartels. The claim is that the act is not accidental but a deliberate violation of law supported by criminal organizations. The overall message stresses the distinction between a temporary lapse in documentation and a conscious decision to violate immigration laws, portraying the latter as a calculated act facilitated by external criminal networks.

The speaker was asked if they still believe the border should be decriminalized. The speaker responded that there should be consequences for those who cross the border illegally, and laws must be followed and enforced. The speaker claims to be the only person in the race who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations trafficking guns, drugs, and human beings. They also claim to be the only person in the race who served a border state as attorney general to enforce laws. They would enforce laws as president.

The speaker discusses border security and immigration, stating that those in the U.S. without deportation orders should self-deport to avoid reentry bars. He claims that entering the U.S. illegally is a crime and encourages using the CBP One app or ICE to arrange for self-removal. He asserts the Trump administration aims to bring people into the U.S. legally, preventing exploitation by cartels and allowing Border Patrol to focus on security rather than humanitarian crises. He claims that illegal border crossings lead to increased fentanyl trafficking, sex trafficking, and potential terrorists entering the country. He states the American people voted for stricter immigration enforcement and that the administration is prioritizing public safety and national security threats for removal, using existing laws, including the Alien Enemies Act. He accuses the Biden administration of violating the law by not conducting case-by-case analyses for parolees and creating "shell games" with programs like CHNV and the CBP One app to lower border crossing numbers artificially. He insists the Trump administration achieved a more secure border by detaining those without proper documentation. He commits to following the law and Supreme Court rulings.

The speaker states that those in the U.S. without a deportation order should self-deport to avoid reentry bars. Doing so allows future legal entry through citizen petitions, work visas, or student visas. The speaker claims that illegal entry benefits criminal cartels and creates a humanitarian crisis, diverting resources from border security and leading to increased fentanyl smuggling, sex trafficking, and terrorist entries. The CBP One app and ICE offices are presented as resources for self-deportation. The speaker maintains that the U.S. treats everyone humanely and enforces existing laws, including the Alien Enemies Act, to secure the border. They assert that the majority of Americans want illegal aliens removed humanely. The speaker accuses the Biden administration of violating the parole statute by not conducting case-by-case analyses for those paroled into the country, specifically citing the CHNV program. They claim the administration manipulated border numbers by creating separate categories for entries through the CHNV program and CBP One app. The speaker concludes that the Trump administration achieved the most secure border in history by detaining those without proper documentation and reducing illegal crossings by 95%. They commit to following the law and Supreme Court rulings.

Democrats and the media have portrayed deported individuals as innocent, such as a supposed father of three who was actually an MS-13 gang member. An immigration judge determined in 2019 that this person had no right to be in the U.S., also noting traffic violations and missed court dates. The speaker asserts that the individual was an illegal alien who broke laws to enter the country, and that even left-wing media didn't criticize the deportation itself, only the reasoning behind it. The speaker states that the administration does not seek permission from Democrats to deport illegal immigrants. The speaker questions why Democrats are supposedly angrier about deporting violent gang members than they are about the victims of those gang members, suggesting they have lost touch with reality.

Speaker 0, Speaker 1, and Speaker 2 discuss immigration and U.S. foreign aid policy, focusing on roots, outcomes, and political implications. They begin with a provocative assertion: immigration is a major issue, with Speaker 0 claiming, “mostly with immigration… I wish people knew that we’re letting in criminals daily.” The speakers note migration as a central concern for the region, describing large U.S. aid to Central America—“4,000,000,000 over four years”—and acknowledging migrants now arriving from other places, including Venezuela. The dialogue questions the end goals of policy, asking, “What is the end goal? Why are they allowing children?” and “So what does he say to that?” along with a reference that “a lot of children” are involved. Speaker 2 mentions aid directed to female prisons in Mexico and to work on training, and to gender issues in Pakistan, noting initiatives to recruit, retain, and advance more women in law enforcement. A lingering question is asked: should U.S. taxpayers’ money be spent in their own country on these issues when they are described as fatal or concerning to others. The conversation shifts to specifics of administration and oversight: “Secretary Lincoln, how close are you to him? Five degrees separation.” The group references briefings on the FY2025 budget request and budget cycles, then reiterates the migration issue with a call to “stop migration.” They discuss a “root cause strategy” involving funding to address migrants at their origins, “Central America, basically,” aiming to support development there. A critical point is the assertion of substantial U.S. funding to the region and the concern that migrants are still coming from elsewhere, notably Venezuela, which “looks bad for the administration.” The dialogue notes the difficulty of finding a clear answer, with a sense that the other side might benefit politically. The speakers reflect on the scale of the funding relative to past decades and acknowledge uncertainty about what is effectively changing. There is talk of internal discussions with colleagues who manage migration processes and foreign assistance, with admissions of confusion or lack of clear messaging: “I don’t know what we do… there’s no clear answer.” They touch on messaging about immigration, including a belief that “we’re letting in criminals daily,” and contrast the status of “good, honest, hard work” Mexicans who stay in Mexico with others who come to the United States. Towards the end, Speaker 0 argues that traditional Americans—“Nebraska… Americans that have my family’s been in United States for four hundred years”—are not leftists, while stating that Latin Americans are leftist, framing it as a broader political and societal divide connected to immigration policies. They propose a hypothetical: allowing 100,000 Mexicans a year if they are not in the country illegally and have no criminal record, suggesting a quality filter on entrants.

The speaker discusses the immigration issue, noting improvements at the border, such as a decrease from 10,000 illegal entries to zero and improved morale among ICE and Border Patrol. Mexico is reportedly no longer cooperating with illegal immigration. However, the speaker claims that the prior administration systematically broke the law by allowing 10 to 12 million people to enter and reside illegally, and the courts did not object. Conversely, the current administration's efforts to enforce immigration laws are being blocked by the courts. The speaker argues that the courts consider it lawful to be unlawful under one administration but unlawful to be lawful under another. As an example, the speaker cites the case of Mr. Abrego Garcia, who has gang affiliations, was involved in human trafficking, and is in the country illegally, yet faces difficulties in deportation due to potential danger in El Salvador. The speaker questions who can be deported if someone like Mr. Garcia cannot.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 and the mainstream media of covering for a "vicious gang" that has taken the lives of American women. Speaker 1 claims individuals can be classified based on tattoos and streetwear, leading to deportation to El Salvador. Speaker 0 refutes this, stating the Department of Homeland Security and its agents use a "litany of criteria" to ensure individuals qualify as "foreign terrorists" for deportation. Speaker 0 asserts the president authorized a mass deportation campaign targeting "illegal criminal aliens" and defends the credibility of agents risking their lives, while Speaker 1 questions their credibility. Speaker 0 repeats the accusation of covering for a "vicious gang."

The speaker discusses the terminology used by the federal government regarding immigrants. They state that the statutory term is not “undying” but “illegal aliens,” and that this is the term used by the government. The speaker suggests that using a different term is an attempt to water down the description of the issue, comparing the shift to a notion of “undocumented” people. To illustrate, the speaker uses an analogy: if someone forgets their wallet and thus does not have their driver’s license, they still have a right to drive, implying that a missing document should not redefine whether someone is entitled to drive. The point being made is that choosing terminology is not simply about a minor omission but about a broader characterization of the status of those who come into the country. The speaker asserts that entering the country “intentionally” and “to come in illegally” is not merely a matter of a missing document. They emphasize that, in their view, this involves a deliberate act of violation of the law. It is described as not just a simple mistake but a purposeful action. The speaker stresses that the act is often done “with the help of the cartels in many cases,” highlighting an element they consider significant in understanding the phenomenon. In summary, the speaker argues that the official language frames immigrants as “illegal aliens” rather than using terms like “undocumented,” contending that the latter would downplay the act of illegal entry. They contend that illegal entry is an intentional breach of the law, not just an incidental lack of paperwork, and that, in many instances, it involves coordination with cartels.

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were previously on board with this. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring more border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government isn't serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to speed the deportation of illegal aliens arrested for crimes and better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

- Speaker 0 states that criminals will be deported and that entering the US illegally increases the likelihood of being caught and sent back. They describe these actions as lawful and representative of the approach taken by every Republican and Democratic president for the past fifty years. - Speaker 1 asserts the need for tough conditions: people should be told to come out of the shadows, and if they have committed a crime, they should be deported with no questions asked; they will be removed. - Speaker 2 addresses widespread concern among all Americans about the large numbers of illegal aliens entering the country. They claim the jobs held by these individuals might otherwise be occupied by citizens or legal immigrants, and that public services used by them impose burdens on taxpayers. The administration is described as having moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, and by borrowing welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the upcoming budget, there will be efforts to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former congresswoman Barbara Jordan. - Speaker 2 concludes by emphasizing that we are a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws. It is described as wrong and self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the abuse of immigration laws seen in recent years, and there is a stated commitment to doing more to stop it.

"Crossing the border illegally is not a crime?" "No. It's not a criminal act. It's a misdemeanor." "So why are they being sent back and saying that they're breaking the law?" "That's the point." "There's no due process. Where's the evidence?" "If they are breaking the law, most people will say, okay. Then they need to go if they're criminals." "But if they're not, why are they being rounded up and sent out, especially when he promised to to deport the criminals, and now he's not doing that." "Misdemeanor is not a crime." "No. If you get charged with a misdemeanor, that's not a criminal act." "We have different levels of crime." "Everything is not the same." "It's not a crime. You're not breaking the law." "A misdemeanor is... If you're speeding, it's a misdemeanor." "That's still breaking the law." "Is it law to come over legally? There are rules that processes that you should follow." "So you're breaking rules, but you're not necessarily breaking a law." "Then you get you suffer the consequences."

The speaker claims illegal immigration has dropped from 10,000 people to zero, and ICE and border patrol morale is at an all-time high. Mexico is allegedly no longer cooperating with illegal immigration forces because they are afraid. The border wall will be completed to the Gulf in some form. Comprehensive immigration reform is unnecessary; enforcing existing laws is sufficient.

Don't touch my phone! Someone just ran her over. You think you're tough? Let’s talk about the rape trees and the children harmed by coyotes and cartels. You’re quiet now? If you're here illegally, enjoy your stay, but you’ll be deported soon. This land wasn’t stolen; it was conquered. Families can be deported together. Borders matter, and being here illegally is a crime. If you love Mexico, go back. I can't wait for ICE to deport you. You’re free to leave right now. We’re going to restore law and order in America. Your flag is upside down.