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We have special relationships with our friends in the UK and some European allies. However, there have been infringements on free speech that affect not just the British, which is their business, but also American tech companies and citizens. This is something we'll discuss. We've had free speech for a long time in the UK, and it will continue. We wouldn't want to overreach with US citizens, and we don't. I'm very proud of our history of free speech in the UK.

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Free speech isn't a free fall in Europe. There are two anti free speech movements that have coalesced. The U. S. Anti free speech movement began in higher education, then metastasized throughout the government. The Berlin World Forum followed the remarks of Vice President Vance on free speech, and the EU was red hot. Hillary Clinton was there, and she really fueled the anger. When Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk, she called on the EU to use the infamous Digital Services Act, which is one of the most anti free speech pieces of legislation in decades. And she called upon the EU to use the DSA to force the censorship of American citizens, force people like Musk to censor. After the World Forum, they further globalized this effort, threatening companies like ACTS with ruinous fines unless they resume censoring American citizens.

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I find it insulting that someone like JD Vance would come to Europe and lecture us on our laws. He should run for office here if he wants to change things. It's outrageous, especially at a security conference focused on the real threat to Europe: Russia. To say the threat comes from within, from attacks on free speech, is completely wrong. We're a country that values women's rights and enforces laws to protect them. Vance's claim about eroded liberty, like private prayer being criminalized, is false. Our laws protect women from harassment when accessing abortion services, and buffer zones are in place for that reason. Praying silently within these zones is against the law. He is wrong to come here and say such insulting things, especially given the real security threats we face.

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"Today's misinformation is always tomorrow's truth. It's always the government who wants to censor people who are critical of the government." "Europe is trying to police everyone and shake down American tech companies, which is exactly what the digital markets act looked like. That is what's at stake here, and that is not how our First Amendment works." "Everything our government here in The United States told us about COVID turned out to be false. If you criticize any of the things they initially told you, you had to be censored." "When Elon bought Twitter, now it's a place where the first amendment and free speech are right where they need to be." "The spillover effect it can have on, American content being seen by European users." "The answer to stupid speech, bad speech, and wrong speech is more speech." "the hallmark of Western culture is free expression." "There were 12,183 arrests for offensive post online." "Global Alliance for Responsible Media." "Disinformation governance board."

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I was very disappointed by the speech given by Vice President JD Vance at the conference yesterday. Our allies needed to hear a renewed commitment from America to NATO and our European partners. They needed to know that we are willing to stand up to the Kremlin and provide Ukraine with the help it needs to fight Russia's war. Instead, they got a condescending lecture that attacked our allies. The speech sent the wrong message and I believe it was enthusiastically greeted in the Kremlin.

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We value our special relationship with the UK and our European allies. However, we are aware of infringements on free speech that impact not only the British but also American tech companies and, by extension, American citizens. We don't believe in censoring speech, but we must address serious issues like terrorism and child exploitation. I discussed this with the Vice President today, and we had a productive conversation. He is right to champion free speech. We also champion free speech in the UK. Regarding the measures we've taken, we are very mindful of ensuring they do not negatively impact US citizens.

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Patrick Baab and the host discuss the perceived erosion of freedom of expression in Europe and the role of governments and institutions in pressuring speech. - Baab asserts that there is “no freedom of speech in the EU anymore,” citing a 160-page US Congress report published in February that allegedly finds the EU Commission created a system of complete censorship across the European Union. The report states the EU regime “pressured platforms in the Internet to suppress lawful speech, including speech that was true simply because it was politically inconvenient,” and that the Commission is transforming itself “into a censorship authority against democracy.” - The discussion moves to Jacques Baud (spelled Baud by Baab, sometimes Jacques Baud), a Swiss colonel and analyst who argued that the war in Ukraine had been provoked. Baab notes Baud was sanctioned by the EU, with consequences including travel bans, frozen assets, and limited monthly food funds (€500). Baud cannot travel to Switzerland; his bank accounts and property are frozen, and neighbors reportedly cook for him. Baab calls these measures extralegal, asserting they punish a person for an argument, not for crimes, and claims such sanctions illustrate a mechanism to suppress dissent. - Baab elaborates that Baud’s sanction is part of a broader pattern: “extralegal sanctions” against multiple individuals (Baud and 58 others) within and partly outside the EU, aimed at silencing those who challenge NATO or EU narratives. He argues this signals a “death of freedom” and a move to shut mouths through sanctions. - The host asks if the media’s shift toward propaganda is temporary or permanent. Baab responds that the transformation is structural: democracy in Europe is becoming anti-democratic and warmongering despotism. He cites Viktor Orban’s view that the EU intends to wage war against Russia, with propaganda and censorship as two sides of the same coin to close public debate. Baab says the war will be ugly, as Russia has warned it could escalate to nuclear conflict, and ties this to investments in Ukraine (Shell deal) that were lost when territories changed hands, implying economic motivations behind policy and casualties for profits. - The conversation turns to self-censorship. Baab describes widespread fear among journalists and academics; many refused to join a board intended to assist Baud, fearing repercussions. He cites a US Congress report alleging the EU manipulated eight elections, including Romania, Slovakia, and France. He also notes the EU Commission’s engagement with major platforms (Meta, Google, TikTok, X, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Rumble, Reddit, OpenAI) to enforce content management under EU rules, threatening sanctions if not compliant. - Reputational attacks against critics are discussed. Baab shares experiences of smear campaigns, such as being misrepresented as a “Putin poll watcher” in Germany, and notes that state- and EU-funded NGOs sometimes amplify misinformation. He argues mainstream media generally ignores these issues, turning to “new media” and independent outlets as alternatives for information. - On Germany specifically, Baab identifies EU-level figures (German-origin leaders) who drive censorship: Ursula von der Leyen as EU Commission President (authorized COVID-19 disinformation monitoring), Vera Jorova (values and transparency), Thierry Breton (pressures on platforms), Prabhat Agarwal (Digital Services Act enforcement), and Renate Künast (translating DSA into practice). He says national governments decide sanctions but pass the burden to Brussels, creating a “kickback game.” He notes the German Bundestag extended EU sanctions into national law, punishing any helper of a sanctioned person with up to ten years’ imprisonment. - For optimism, Baab says Europe needs external help, such as the US Congress report, and citizens must seek alternative information sources and organize to defend democratic rights, including voting for different parties. He suggests that without broad public pushback, the propaganda system will persist. - The discussion closes with reflections on broader geopolitical dynamics, warnings about a multipolar world, and a dystopian vision of a Europe dominated by conflict and state control, with elites colluding with Western powers at the expense of ordinary citizens.

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Speaker 0 argues that free speech is not a free fall in Europe, contending that two anti free speech movements have coalesced. One movement is in Europe, which has “laid waste to free speech” in countries such as Germany, France, and England, and also in places like Canada. The other movement is described as the US anti-free-speech movement, which began in higher education and then metastasized throughout the government, but which has “all reached our shores now.” The speaker notes that the Berlin World Forum followed remarks on free speech by Vice President Vance, and that the EU was “red hot.” They describe the forum as “the most anti free speech gathering I’ve ever been part of,” with only two attendees from the free speech community, but those present are “committed.” Hillary Clinton is identified as being there and said to have fueled the anger. A key claim is that when Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk, Clinton called on the EU to use the Digital Services Act, described as “one of the most anti free speech pieces of decades,” to force censorship of American citizens and to compel people like Musk to censor. The speaker characterizes this as “an extraordinary act by someone who was once a presidential candidate in The United States,” and asserts that Clinton’s position reflects a commitment to censorship. The speaker further claims that after the World Forum, this effort was globalized, and that they are “threatening companies like ACTS with ruinous fines unless they resume censoring American citizens.” The overall message emphasizes a belief that anti free speech forces are expanding globally, using regulatory tools such as the Digital Services Act to compel censorship and penalize platforms that do not comply, with the World Forum acting as a catalyst for broader international pressure.

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It's great to be back in Germany, a place I've always loved. My heart goes out to Munich after yesterday's attack; we're thinking of you and praying for you. We're here to talk about security, but the biggest threat to Europe isn't external, it's internal. It's the retreat from our shared values. We see European courts canceling elections and officials threatening to do the same. We need to live our democratic values, not just talk about them. I worry when I see the EU wanting to shut down social media or countries like Sweden punishing people for offending religious groups, or the UK prosecuting silent prayer. The Trump administration will defend your right to speak your mind. Don't be afraid of your own voters. Listen to them, even when you disagree. That's the magic of democracy.

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I disagree with the assertion that free speech was used to conduct the Nazi genocide. The genocide was carried out by an authoritarian regime that hated Jews and minorities; there was no free speech in Nazi Germany. The point of the speech in question was that there is an erosion of free speech and intolerance for opposing points of view within Europe. This is eroding the values that bind us together in this transatlantic union. Allies and partners should be able to speak frankly to one another in open forums without being offended. Many foreign ministers may not have agreed with the speech, but they continued to engage with us on issues that unite us. This forum is meant to invite people to give speeches, not to be a chorus where everyone is saying the same thing.

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Here is my response: I must comment on the US Vice President's speech, particularly his questioning of European democracy. Our motto, "We fight for your right to be against us," exemplifies the democracy he calls into question. This isn't the Europe I know, where every opinion matters, even those of extremist parties. We allow Russian propaganda media and answer their questions. However, democracy doesn't mean a vocal minority dictates truth. It defends itself against those who would destroy it. I disagree with the Vice President's suggestion that our democracies oppress minorities. We defend our countries for democracy, freedom of opinion, the rule of law, and the dignity of all. Now, shifting to European and transatlantic security, the US is pushing for a swift peace settlement between Russia and Ukraine, expecting Europe to secure any resulting agreement.

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The speaker believes freedom of speech in the West is in a dire state, citing the UK's online hate speech arrests, Pavel Durov's arrest in France, and X's ban in Brazil. They claim the EU's Digital Service Act (DSA) grants the EU power to take down X for non-compliance, including removing "illegal hate speech." The DSA has supremacy over national law in EU member states. The speaker views Durov's arrest as a warning to Elon Musk. They believe EU leaders have an "inverted demonic view" of freedom of speech, limiting it to "protect democracy" by censoring content they dislike, labeling it as misinformation. The speaker will post weekly videos on X. They urge Europeans to dismantle the EU and Americans to make the "right decision" in the upcoming election.

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The speaker claims they are attacked for not believing in democracy, but the most sacred right in the U.S. democracy is the First Amendment. They state that Kamala Harris wants to threaten the power of the government, and there is no First Amendment right to misinformation. The speaker believes big tech silences people, which is a threat to democracy. They want Democrats and Republicans to reject censorship and persuade one another by arguing about ideas. The speaker references yelling fire in a crowded theater as the Supreme Court test. They accuse others of wanting to kick people off Facebook for saying toddlers shouldn't get masks.

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Speaker 0: Zuckerberg claims to be an old-fashioned liberal who dislikes censorship, but why doesn't Facebook take a similar stand on free speech? It seems rooted in American political tradition. Speaker 1: Zuckerberg reportedly spent $400 million in the last election, primarily supporting Democrats. This raises questions about his impartiality.

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Power corrupts. “Power corrupts. We’ve seen that all across the world.” “Today’s misinformation is always tomorrow’s truth.” and “It’s always the government who wants to censor people who are critical of the government.” He contrasts US free speech with Europe’s clampdown, arguing that “When Elon bought Twitter, now it's a place where the first amendment and free speech are right where they need to be,” while Europe’s “Online Safety Act” and “EU’s Digital Services Act” aim to “shake down American tech companies,” a policy stance he says is “not how our First Amendment works.” He cites UK “12,183 arrests for offensive post online,” Heathrow detentions of a comedian, and Poland for “liking a video,” urging press transparency: “the answer to stupid speech, bad speech, and wrong speech is more speech,” and suggesting remedies: “highlight the facts out there, and you show how ridiculous it is,” plus trade talks and potential sanctions on Ofcom. He references the “disinformation governance board,” the “GARM” debate, and the spillover effect on American content.

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It's great to be back in Germany. Our thoughts are with Munich after yesterday's attack. We're here to discuss security, but the biggest threat to Europe is internal: a retreat from shared values with the U.S. We see European courts canceling elections and officials threatening to do the same. We must live our democratic values, unlike those who censored dissidents during the Cold War. I see threats to free speech across Europe, including the UK, where silent prayer near abortion clinics is criminalized. The Trump administration will defend your right to speak freely. If your democracy can be destroyed by a few digital ads, it wasn't strong to begin with. We must engage in dialogue with all political leaders, even those with whom we disagree. Dismissing voters or shutting down media destroys democracy. We must address mass migration, a pressing challenge resulting from conscious political decisions. Don't be afraid to embrace what your people tell you, even when it's surprising.

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Speaker 1 believes Biden is a bigger threat to democracy than Trump. Biden allegedly used federal agencies to censor political speech, including the speaker's, shortly after taking office. This action is seen as unprecedented and dangerous for democracy. The speaker argues that questioning election results is not as big of a threat as a president using their power to control social media platforms.

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We have special relationships with our friends in the UK and some European allies. However, there have been infringements on free speech that affect not just the British, which is their business, but also American tech companies and citizens, so that is something we will be discussing. We've had free speech for a very long time in the United Kingdom, and it will last for a very long time. We wouldn't want to reach across US citizens, and we don't, that's absolutely right. Speaking of free speech in the UK, I'm very proud of our history. We discussed what is so.

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Should the Judiciary Committee be concerned if European law results in the censorship of Americans? Absolutely, especially after recent events. I shared information this morning on X about a judicial ruling in Europe asserting their right to censor. We're seeing similar trends in Australia, where authorities believe they should censor the entire global Internet of disfavored information. This is very disturbing and really makes you question our alliance with Europe.

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Speaker 0 raises questions about what’s happening culturally in Europe, noting crackdowns on free speech and people looking less like us, and asks whether a massive shift in world alliances is occurring long term. Speaker 1 responds that there is definitely a new world order, with changes in trade, globalization, and the way we invest in our economy versus foreign supply chains. They say the president is willing to shake up old alliance structures, and that NATO is much different now because of the president’s leadership, whereas ten years ago it was effectively a protectorate of the United States of America. They mention Venezuela as an example and state that the president is putting a stamp on world history, but in an America-first way.

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Innovation and creativity cannot be forced, much like thoughts and beliefs. Looking at Europe, it's concerning to see actions like EU commissars threatening to shut down social media for "hateful content," police raids for "anti-feminist" comments, and the conviction of a Christian activist for Quran burnings. Even more alarming is the UK, where a man was charged for silently praying near an abortion clinic, and Scotland warned citizens that private prayer within their homes could be illegal. Free speech is retreating across Europe. Ironically, the loudest voices for censorship sometimes come from my own country. The prior administration bullied social media companies to censor "misinformation," like the lab leak theory of the coronavirus. In Washington, under Donald Trump's leadership, we will defend your right to speak freely, even if we disagree with your views.

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I must address the US Vice President's recent speech questioning the state of European democracy. His comparison of Europe to authoritarian regimes is unacceptable. In our democracy, every opinion is heard, even those of extremist parties. We even allow media that spread Russian propaganda. However, democracy doesn't mean a minority dictates truth, nor does it allow unchecked speech. We defend our democracy daily against internal and external threats. I strongly disagree with the Vice President's suggestion that our democracies oppress minorities. We know what we defend: democracy, freedom of opinion, the rule of law, and the dignity of all. Unlike the Vice President, I want to focus on European and transatlantic security. Recent events confirm the US is pushing for a quick peace settlement between Russia and Ukraine, expecting Europe to secure any resulting agreement.

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I recall that an EU official sent Elon Musk a threatening letter, suggesting he'd be arrested if he platforms Donald Trump, who may be the next US president. America should insist that if NATO wants our continued support, it must respect American values, especially free speech. It's crazy to support a military alliance that isn't pro-free speech. We can support NATO and promote free speech, but American power comes with expectations. European allies should share our values, particularly regarding basic principles like free speech. I wouldn't impose our values on just any country, but European nations should align with American values, especially on fundamental issues like free speech.

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The speaker claims the European Union threatened Elon Musk with sanctions for airing an interview with Donald Trump. The speaker asserts this is offensive to democracy and freedom of speech. They accuse the EU of election interference by silencing a former president who is now a nominee for a major political party. The speaker contrasts this with the lack of outrage from the White House and the Harris campaign, questioning why Democrats aren't complaining about this alleged election interference.

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CBS vs. Free Speech, Elon Baby Drama, and Shocking Plane Crash, with Knowles, Taibbi, and Kirn
Guests: Matt Taibbi, Michael Knowles, Walter Kirn
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Megyn Kelly announces the launch of a new podcast called the AM Update, which will provide a 15-minute summary of the day’s top stories to help listeners start their mornings informed. This initiative is in response to audience requests for concise news updates. The podcast will be available on SiriusXM and various podcast platforms. The discussion then shifts to JD Vance's recent speech in Europe, where he emphasized the importance of free speech and criticized the erosion of democratic values in Europe. Michael Knowles argues that the media misrepresented Vance's message, framing it as a call to support far-right parties while ignoring the broader context of free speech rights being undermined. He highlights that the left's reaction to Vance's speech reflects a fear of losing political control as citizens increasingly turn to right-wing alternatives due to dissatisfaction with current governance. Megan and Michael discuss a recent 60 Minutes segment that portrayed Germany's strict free speech laws in a sympathetic light, contrasting it with the American perspective on free speech. They critique the lack of critical voices in the segment and the media's tendency to downplay the implications of such censorship. They argue that the establishment media's approach to free speech issues is misguided and fails to recognize the dangers of suppressing dissenting opinions. The conversation also touches on the backlash against the Associated Press for being excluded from certain press events during the Trump administration. Megan and her guests argue that the AP's claims of censorship are exaggerated, pointing out that they still have access to cover the White House. They discuss the broader implications of media access and the relationship between journalists and political power. The episode concludes with a discussion about a recent plane crash in Toronto, where all 80 passengers survived despite the aircraft flipping upside down upon landing. Aviation experts analyze the incident, attributing the hard landing to a high rate of descent and challenging weather conditions. They emphasize the importance of pilot training and experience, particularly in managing landings under adverse conditions. The experts express gratitude for the survival of all passengers and highlight advancements in aircraft safety that contributed to the positive outcome.
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