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The speaker discusses the CDC leadership, confirming 'we let go of Susan Menarie yesterday' and that the agency is 'a very troubled for a very long time' with 'bizarre recommendations that were not science based' during the COVID pandemic. They say 'Go to the website. Look at it. Fluorination, giving kids a toxin, and vaccines.' They add, 'There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture and bring back pride and self esteem and make that agency the stellar agency that it's always been.' They conclude, 'I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're gonna be able to accomplish that and and ensure the competent functionality of that agency.'

- it's that he took the COVID vaccine off the recommended schedule for children. - 95% of parents were already rejecting that advice, and actually 85% of healthcare workers rejecting that advice. - when these people in the media say that they are standing up for science, they are saying they're going against 95% of parents, and they want every single six month old in this country to have a mandated mRNA COVID injection. - There is a memo going around at the CDC and throughout HHS about how to subvert president Trump and how to subvert secretary Kennedy. - They're saying we're gonna outlast them, that the Republicans are gonna lose the midterms, that this is gonna be a flash in the pan.

The speaker expresses disappointment that the existence of myocarditis was known very early on. They claim to have written to Fauci in 2020 and 2021 about lymphopenia and the failure to clear the virus, asserting that this failure was also known early on. The speaker states the perception of 95% efficacy was inaccurate and suggests there were perverse incentives at play, and now the consequences must be recognized. Another speaker then states that this is why Fauci needed a pardon.

"dreadful use of vaccines and the mandates that have caused so much problem." "From the very beginning, these vaccines were not vaccines, particularly the ones that ended up after AstraZeneca with all the clots and they were shut down." "The messenger RNA vaccines of Pfizer and Moderna, of course, unbelievable problems and damage to people." "They were pushed into this by Pfizer and all the people that Pfizer and Moderna wanted to get this into everybody." "These were not vaccines. These were horrible gene therapies that could actually integrate into your genome." "turbo cancers." "They are incompetence, medical negligence, everything, and nobody is accepting responsibility for this." "This is Nuremberg trial stuff." "They were never ever effective." "There was no evidence that they were effective whatsoever. It was basically hope, and they were never ever safe."

The record that they're gonna rely on to make these decisions? Will you make it transparent for the American people? All the evidence is transparent. All evidence is transparent for the first time in history. You can characterize it any way you want. I quoted them today. What I said was accurate. What you said were lies. Are you saying that the mRNA vaccine has never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis into I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire You're evading the question. The senator, they deserve the truth and that's what we're gonna give them for the first time in the history of that agency.

The speaker says RFK Jr. aims to alter the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The law firm he hired specializes in this program, established in 1986 and in effect by 1988. He will claim the CDC hid evidence about aluminum adjuvants and try to add autism, eczema, or asthma to the compensable list, or remove vaccines from the program, leaving them to civil litigation. He reportedly wants to eliminate vaccines, arguing we traded infectious diseases for chronic diseases. He says chronic disease incidence in children is one in thirty two, implying vaccines cause autism, despite studies. At a confirmation hearing, Cassidy pressed him to admit vaccines don’t cause autism; he cited Mawson and colleagues claiming Florida Medicaid children were more likely to develop autism after vaccination; the paper was not published, not peer reviewed, and was flawed. This is the beginning; as HHS Secretary he could end vaccine manufacturing.

Secretary, the CDC director was fired after refusing to resign as her lawyers accuse you, sir, of putting millions of American lives at risk as a CDC vaccine chief slammed in a resignation post. “I'm not gonna comment. It would be inappropriate for me to comment on a personnel issue.” “What I will say is, you know, there's president president Trump Trump has has very, very ambitious hopes for what for CDC right now.” “The CDC has problems.” “You know, we saw the misinformation coming out of COVID.” “They got the testing testing wrong. Wrong.” “They got the the social distancing, the masks, the the school closures that did so much harm to the American people.” “Oh, today on CDC's website right now, they list the 10 top top advance the the 10 greatest advances in medical science, and one of them is abortion. The other is another is floridation.” “Another is vaccines.” “So we need to look at the priorities of the agency if there's really a deeply, deeply embedded, I would say, malaise at the agency.” “And we need strong leadership that will go in there and that will be able to execute on president Trump's broad ambitions.”

Dr. Menares and an interlocutor debate the science behind pediatric COVID vaccination and routine immunizations, focusing on transmission, hospitalization, and risk. - The interlocutor asks whether the COVID vaccine prevents transmission. Speaker 1 answer: the vaccine can reduce viral load in individuals who are infected, and with reduced viral load, there is reduced transmission. The interlocutor reframes, insisting that the vaccine does not prevent transmission and notes decreasing effectiveness over time, citing Omicron data showing around 16% reduction when there is a reduction. - On hospitalization for children 18 and under: Speaker 0 asserts the vaccine does not reduce hospitalization for 18-year-olds; statistics are inconclusive due to small numbers of hospitalizations in that age group (approximately 76 million people aged 18 in the country, with 183 deaths and a few thousand hospitalizations in 2020–2021; numbers have since dropped). The argument emphasizes a need to discuss the issue. - On death for children 18 and under: Speaker 0 says the vaccine does not reduce the death rate; claims there is no statistical evidence that it reduces deaths. Speaker 1 responds with a more cautious stance: “It can,” but Speaker 0 counters, calling that an insufficient answer. - The discussion references the vaccine approval process and ongoing debates in vaccine committees. The interlocutor states that when the vaccine was approved for six months and older, the discussion acknowledged no proof of reduction in hospitalization or death. The argument asserts that the justification for vaccination is based on antibody generation rather than clear hospitalization/death data. The interlocutor contends that immunology measurements (antibody production) do not necessarily justify vaccination frequency. - The core debate centers on what the science supports for vaccinating six-month-olds and the benefits versus risks. The interlocutor argues there is no hospitalization or death benefit for vaccination in this age group, and notes a known risk of myocarditis in younger populations, estimated somewhere between six and ten per ten thousand, which the interlocutor claims is greater than the risk of hospitalization or death being measurable. - The exchange then shifts to changing the childhood vaccine schedule, particularly the hepatitis B vaccine given to newborns when the mother is not hepatitis B positive. The interlocutor asks for the medical or scientific reason to give a hepatitis B vaccine to a newborn with an uninfected mother, arguing that the discussion should focus on whether to change the schedule rather than declaring all vaccines as good or bad. - Speaker 1 says they agreed with considering the science and would not pre-commit to approving all ACIP recommendations without the science. Speaker 0 disagrees, asserting their position that the debate should center on the medical rationale for these specific vaccines and schedules, not on a blanket endorsement of vaccines. - Throughout, the dialogue emphasizes examining the medical reasons and evidence for specific vaccines and schedules, rather than broad generalizations about vaccines.

Paul Offit said that I'm going to do everything I can to make vaccines less available and affordable, which will hurt the vaccine infrastructure in this country. I'm supposedly joining hands with Donald Trump to march into measles land. But I'm not going to take away anyone's vaccines. People should be able to get them if they want. I want to give people good science. We don't have good safety studies on almost any of the 72 vaccines mandated for children. HHS admitted there are no pre-licensing safety studies for any of them, except the COVID vaccine. We need to know the risk profiles of these products. We also don't have good data on adverse effects from the COVID vaccine, which is a crime. The CDC's surveillance system captures less than one percent of vaccine injuries. Congress and the National Academy of Sciences have repeatedly ordered the CDC to put together a better vaccine. We will do that right away.

All of this cannot be true. Are you lying to Congress about being pro-vaccine, or did you lie on those podcasts? We have it all on tape. Senator, that statement from the Lex Fridman podcast has been debunked. I was asked if there are safe and effective vaccines, and I said some live virus vaccines are. I also stated that no vaccine is universally safe and effective, as every medicine has individuals who may react negatively, including vaccines. I was interrupted before I could elaborate. I've clarified this multiple times, including on national TV, so bringing it up now is misleading.

Vaccine recommendations typically come from the Advisory Committee of Immunization Practices (an outside consulting committee at CDC) and VRBPAC (within FDA), which recommends vaccine licensure. These committees only adopted evidence-based medicine about twelve years ago. The speaker states that during their administration, they want safety studies prior to vaccine licensure and recommendation. They claim vaccines are exempt from pre-licensing safety testing, and the COVID vaccine was the only one tested in a full placebo trial. They assert that the other 76 shots children receive between birth and 18 have not been safety tested against a placebo, meaning the risk profile is not understood. The speaker intends to remedy this.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. discusses a documentary, "High Crimes," about the Chinese mafia's drug operations in rural America, available on TuckerCarlson.com. Kennedy claims that he faces opposition from the mainstream media and Democrats due to their knee-jerk reaction against anything associated with Trump. He asserts Trump dictates the Democratic Party's platform, citing examples like NAFTA, war, intelligence agencies, free speech, and women's sports. Kennedy discusses commissioning studies on autism, criticizing the CDC's past studies for alleged fraudulent techniques and failure to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. He says that the Institute of Medicine stated in 2001 that the link between autism and vaccines is biologically plausible. He plans to make databases public for independent scientists to conduct real studies, with initial answers expected by September. Kennedy alleges a system of perverse incentives in healthcare, where insurance companies, doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies profit from keeping people sick. He claims pharmaceutical companies heavily influence medical journals and incentivize doctors to prescribe their drugs. Kennedy states that pharmaceutical advertising has First Amendment protection, but it is misleading. He says that pharmaceutical companies are advertising the most expensive version of every drug. Kennedy discusses the 1986 Vaccine Act, which gave vaccine companies immunity from liability. He says that the number of vaccines has exploded, leading to an epidemic of immune dysregulation. He claims the CDC deliberately derailed studies on vaccine injuries and that scientific publishers won't publish critical studies of vaccines. Kennedy claims that there were more injuries reported from VAERS by the COVID vaccine than all other vaccines put together for the past thirty six years. He says that the Pfizer vaccine had a higher all cause mortality. He says that Zuckerberg was ordered by the White House to suppress anybody on his platform who mentioned vaccine injuries. Kennedy says that the recommendation has been removed now for pregnant women. He is not satisfied that mRNA technology is safe for people. Kennedy says that he fired the vaccine board because it was an instrument for the industry that it was supposed to regulate. He says that 97% of the people on that board had undisclosed conflicts. Kennedy claims Fauci was vulnerable and had a lot of liability on creating coronavirus. He was funding precisely that research at the Wuhan Lab. Kennedy believes his uncle was killed by a conspiracy. He says that his father's murder was never investigated. Kennedy says that Trump's cabinet is an extraordinary cabinet. He says that Trump is a deep multidimensional and thoughtful character. He is immensely curious, inquisitive, and knowledgeable.

The speaker claims the medical landscape is dominated by COVID vaccine injuries, disabilities, and deaths, and that they submit multiple entries daily to VAERS, facing scrutiny and potential penalties for falsification. They state they diagnosed an executive in her late thirties with Guillain Barre syndrome from COVID-19 vaccination. The speaker estimates that only 1% of manuscripts on COVID vaccine injuries are being published, suggesting a tremendous bias, and that there are about 4,000 papers on the vaccine debacle, which is about 1% of reality. They claim to have never seen myocarditis, heart failure, or blood clots from eating frosted flakes, but are seeing people devastated by the shots. The speaker advocates for removing COVID-19 vaccines from the market, a critical reevaluation of the vaccine schedule, dropping all vaccine mandates, and rescinding the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act.

The speakers claim the COVID-19 vaccination program is an ongoing mass experiment that President Trump doesn't want to stop because he is proud of Operation Warp Speed. One speaker says this is tragic because the vaccines are being given to kids. One speaker describes internal fighting and paradoxical actions, such as trying to block the vaccine rollout while simultaneously targeting new variants with updated mRNA vaccines. They assert the vaccines are killing people, referencing autopsy evidence and histopathology. One speaker highlights a leaked video where Trump suggests limiting the vaccine for kids but believes it helps older people. The other speaker refutes this, stating the vaccine kills older people, citing autopsy findings and a BMJ report by the Norwegian Health Authority that found the vaccine likely caused at least 10% and possibly up to 36% of post-vaccination deaths investigated. They claim the CDC reports zero deaths from mRNA vaccines, a claim they dispute based on histopathology slides.

The speaker claims the Biden administration covered up science related to the COVID shot. Information related to vaccine complications was allegedly censored as COVID vaccine hesitant content. The speaker alleges the heart inflammation in young, healthy men and boys was not disclosed as soon as it should have been, resulting in thousands of kids developing myocarditis unnecessarily. The speaker suggests the administration knew the shot didn't stop transmission but kept it secret. The head of the FDA is cited as saying the Biden administration suppressed information about myocarditis damage to children. The speaker believes this sounds criminal, especially considering mandates for school, work, and travel.

Question about the CDC resignation and how the agency can function. "I will confirm that we let go of Susan Menarie yesterday." The CDC is an agency that is very troubled for a very long time. "Among the top 10 medical innovations greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion. This is the one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps small families." "Go to the website. Look at it. Fluorination, giving kids a toxin, and vaccines." There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term to change the institutional culture and bring back pride. "I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're gonna be able to accomplish that and and ensure the competent functionality of that agency."

I'm preparing to shake up the Department of Health and Human Services by dismissing vaccine advisors with conflicts of interest. The medical industry has undue influence over regulators and government policy. We aim to remove conflicts of interest from committees and research partners or balance them with other stakeholders. The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is a clear target, and their meeting was recently postponed indefinitely. Medical professionals have urged me to preserve the meeting, emphasizing the importance of vaccines in responding to public health threats. Panels advising the FDA are also being targeted. I've vowed to reassess the childhood vaccination schedule and suggested that certain vaccines, like the COVID-19 vaccines, could be taken off the market. The CDC has already withdrawn its "wild to mild seasonal" campaign for the flu vaccination.

"And, you know, we're not here to judge anyone that did take a shot." "And in fact, what we need to focus on now is government funding, NIH funding for those who did and are still suffering." "There are a lot of people left in the wake of this program." "However, I think these bold moves give us basically fodder for the cannon to continue to fire and say, look, we will work on better science, better technology, but let's not forget those who were harmed by this." "And we need to focus on better technologies, not gene therapies that go to every cell in the body, not gene therapies for respiratory viruses." "As the secretary said, look, we're for good science. We're not trying to pull everybody's vaccine away from them, but we're not gonna allow them to take unsafe ones."

"The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it's got a virus in there, you'll know it." "He doesn't understand electron microscopy and he doesn't understand medicine and he should not be in a position like he's in." "Most of those up there on the top are just total administrative people and they don't know anything about what's going on at the bottom." "They've got an agenda which is not what we would like them to have, being that we pay for them to take care of our health in some way." "They change them when they want to and they smugly like Tony Fauci does not mind going on television in front of the people to pay his salary and lie directly into the camera."

Speaker says his committee now has over 8,000,000 pages of information and that federal health agencies hid the signal about myocarditis, claiming "CD somebody in the federal health agencies, interagency communication, hid the signal. Admitted there was a signal on my architis and they hid it. They didn't warn the public. They didn't warn doctors." He calls this "one instance of corruption and lies told by the CDC" and says more will be rolled out. He notes "our first hearing in permanent subcommittee investigation on that hiding of the signal myocarditis." He asserts science has been "thoroughly corrupted" and presents "data" to enter into the record. Citing censorship during the Biden administration, he cites VAERS: "thirty eight thousand seven hundred and forty two deaths reported on VAERS worldwide associated with COVID vaccine. Thirty eight thousand seven hundred forty two. Nine thousand two hundred fifty two of those deaths occurred on the day of vaccination within one or two days." He adds, "There's not any good study on that. This is hard evidence."

I ask if you intend to substitute your judgment for that of professional scientists. I won’t substitute my judgment for science. The New York Times reported on fraudulent studies by NIH regarding amyloid plaques and Alzheimer's. Are the scientists who disagree with you considered bad? The corrupt ones, like those behind the fraudulent amyloid studies. Do you have a medical degree? No. Your failed presidential campaign has raised money. How much from HHS's issues? Zero. I want to enter emails about your fundraising into the record. Without objection. You previously stated that Black people should not follow the same vaccine schedule as whites. Can you explain? Studies show Black individuals may have stronger reactions to certain antigens, suggesting they need fewer. That’s dangerous. Your views could mislead parents. Do you think science is dangerous? These are peer-reviewed studies. I yield.

During the Biden administration, attempts to obtain records on funding for Wuhan research were blocked; findings came largely from FOIA challenges. Communications allegedly show Fauci and NIH director Francis Collins instructing: 'read this, this is some more crap coming from me, the senator from Kentucky, I wanna be done with this. When you're done reading it, delete this material.' The speaker says this is illegal and constitutes two crimes: destroying federal records and lying to Congress. The auto pen pardon raises questions about Biden's awareness; the operator says he never met the president, and 'thousands of auto pen pardons' were issued. The speaker has invited Fauci to testify; if not accepted, a subpoena will be issued. They claim Fauci lied to Congress and that gain-of-function research was funded by the United States government with Fauci's approval. Kennedy, Bhattacharya, Makary cooperative. End deadline for Fauci's response is this week or next.

President Biden is considering pardoning Dr. Anthony Fauci. During a congressional hearing, Senator Paul questioned Fauci about his May 11th statement regarding NIH funding for gain-of-function research in Wuhan. Fauci firmly stated he has never lied to Congress and does not retract his statement. Senator Paul accused Fauci of being responsible for the pandemic, which he claims resulted in millions of deaths and significant financial costs. He argued that Fauci's funding of gain-of-function research contributed to the virus's transmissibility in humans. Fauci countered that while some conspiracy theories are false, many hold truth, and suggested that it is Senator Paul who is misleading the public.

- "After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risk than benefits for these respiratory viruses." - "BARDA has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under $500,000,000 To replace the troubled mRNA programs, we're prioritizing the development of safer, broader vaccine strategies, like whole virus vaccines and novel platforms that don't collapse when viruses mutate." - "I'm still waiting for Robert Kennedy Jr. To say that we're going to wipe out mandates and everyone will have a choice, but this is a great step in the right direction." - "Half a billion dollars, 22 projects in the pipeline for mRNA vaccine technology." - "KFF Foundation did a survey on really what Americans are still going to want this vaccine going into the fall, the COVID vaccine."