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Peace in the Middle East requires acknowledging that Hamas is not a rational actor interested in negotiation. Hamas turned Gaza into a war zone and views its own people as expendable for jihad, lacking bomb shelters for civilians while building luxury hotels for Western journalists. Hamas's agenda is comparable to the Nazis, but unlike the Nazis, Hamas uses its own people as human shields, valuing the propaganda of dead children. Israel desires peace and prosperity for Gaza, but Hamas prefers misery and blaming Jews. Hamas's charter calls for the killing or expulsion of all Jews in the Middle East, forbidding peace negotiations. Attempts at territorial concessions and mediation have failed, as Hamas breaks ceasefires and seeks Jewish blood. Defeating Hamas is necessary for Palestinian liberation and lasting peace.

The speaker emphasizes the need to destroy Hamas in order to achieve peace, security, and a better life for Palestinians in Gaza. They draw parallels to the denazification process in Germany and the cultural reformation in Japan after World War II, suggesting that a similar transformation is possible in the Arab world. The speaker highlights the deradicalization efforts in Gulf states, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, where Arab citizens are integrated into society. They propose demilitarizing and deradicalizing Gaza, focusing on mosques and schools, and rebuilding with the help of Arab allies.

We are not targeting anyone else in Gaza but civilians. Hamas is a terrorist organization. We are the victims, not the aggressors. There is no moral equivalence.

President Biden believes that Israel should not occupy Gaza. The question of who should govern Gaza after the conflict remains. The speaker suggests that Israel will likely maintain overall security responsibility due to the negative consequences of not doing so. Without this responsibility, there is a risk of increased Hamas terror.

I was born in the heart of Hamas leadership and witnessed their disregard for Palestinian lives. I realized I couldn't support them if they became rulers and destroyed Israel. Now, after 25 years, they rule Gaza and we see their capabilities. Israel didn't start this war, Hamas did. We should encourage civilians to leave Gaza, cut the strip into two parts, and impose a solid siege to deplete and starve the enemy. We may need to consider using gas in the tunnels, but timing is crucial. After destroying the tunnels, we must remove Hamas from power and replace them with the Palestinian Authority, Egyptian government, or Arab League. Aid should only be considered once Gaza is free from Hamas. The Palestinian people just want a normal life, without missiles launched from populated areas. We can't convince protesters who support Hamas, but it's important to defeat this brutal terrorist organization.

We must have conversations with Israel to protect innocent lives in Gaza and provide humanitarian aid to Palestinians. President Biden aims for a two-state solution for peace in the Middle East.

We have never sought a diplomatic resolution with Hamas. While we support a ceasefire, our commitment remains the destruction of Hamas. Unfortunately, Hamas has been unresponsive for weeks, ignoring mediators' proposals for a ceasefire. It’s important to acknowledge that Israel faces tough decisions in this conflict, but the path to resolution lies in achieving a ceasefire. Ultimately, it is Hamas that is currently absent and not engaging in the process.

The speaker claims the Hamas Charter, written in 1988, has no status and doesn't apply anymore. They contrast this with the governing party in Israel, rooted in Herut, which they say maintains the position that the entire land of Israel belongs to the Jews, including Jordan. The speaker describes a cycle since 2005: Israel disregards ceasefire agreements, maintains the siege, and increases violence; Hamas initially complies until Israeli escalation provokes a reaction. They state Hamas is not a nice organization, but that is for the Palestinians to worry about. The speaker asserts the U.S. is not supporting Hamas. Instead, the U.S. supports massive criminal operations all over the region, blocking peace, which the speaker believes should be the focus.

We support peace and security, but we don't welcome expansion after war in the region. If the genocide in Palestine continues, we won't be spared. We won't compromise on our home security. The genocide in Gaza and forced displacement must stop immediately. Gaza needs urgent humanitarian aid. Hamas has a legitimate right to fight the occupation. Hamas is ready to release civilian prisoners, and we urge the world to support the release of 6,000 Palestinians held in Israeli prisons.

The first submission is to destroy Hamas, because if you want peace, security, and a better life for Palestinians in Gaza, Hamas must be destroyed. Getting rid of the poisonous regime is a precursor to stopping the training of people to believe that murdering and having joy at the death of civilians is a good thing. Cultural change and deradicalization has already occurred in the Gulf States and is happening in Saudi Arabia. Israel, with a substantial Arab minority, has also seen this, with Arabs integrated into society, serving in high places. After the destruction of Hamas, Gaza must be demilitarized and deradicalized, focusing on mosques and schools, followed by rebuilding Gaza, hopefully with the help of Arab friends.

Hamas aims to eradicate Israel and kill Jews, having already murdered 1,300 civilians. We must defeat them to prevent future attacks. This battle is not just ours, but a battle for civilization against barbarism. If we don't stop this savagery, it will soon affect the entire world.

The speaker states they never want to see a diplomatic resolution with Hamas. They say they wanted a ceasefire, but have always been committed to the destruction of Hamas. They add that they wanted a ceasefire, but have always made clear that they wanted to see a different authority moving forward in governance of Gaza.

Hamas's attack is a reminder of their evil nature; they cannot be allowed to rearm or govern. The President's plan for Gaza involves removing people for reconstruction, but regional partners need to propose better solutions. My first 30 days as Secretary of State have reinforced that the State Department needs realignment with national interests. An "America First" approach means defining those interests and aligning our actions accordingly. We're restructuring bureaus to address issues like migration and human trafficking effectively. We've paused foreign aid to review its alignment with national interests, issuing waivers for critical programs like fentanyl interdiction training in Guatemala. The goal is to ensure every program strengthens America.

What actions lead to the greater good in Israel? It's essential to stop those who wish to harm Israelis, as they pose a significant threat. A major issue is the indoctrination of hatred in children from a young age in Gaza, which must be addressed for lasting peace. We need to eliminate those promoting hate and ensure that children are not taught to hate in any context. Additionally, economic prosperity in Gaza is crucial. Historical examples, like the post-World War II rebuilding of Germany and Japan through the Marshall Plan, demonstrate that supporting nations can lead to lasting alliances and peace.

I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. That's ridiculous. Israel is not the bad guy. They're the good guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could. When it comes to foreign policy, president Trump has stood up for all the right things, and he stood up against wrong things just like Reagan.

The discussion centers on the fragile peace deal and the ongoing conflict with Hamas, with emphasis on Hamas’ true nature, disarmament, hostage issues, humanitarian aid, and regional dynamics including Lebanon and Iran. - Hamas remains a terrorist organization. The interlocutor states that Hamas has not changed its stripe and is using the ceasefire to reassert control in Gaza through mass executions of those opposed or suspected of working with Israel, while attempting to rebuild its strength. The plan, in partnership with Netanyahu, is to disarm Hamas, dismantle its terror infrastructure, and build Gaza into something different, a top priority under the Trump plan. - The peace deal is a work in progress. Neither Israel, the United States, nor other actors expect Hamas to act in good faith. The discussion emphasizes that if Hamas does not disarm, it will be eradicated, a statement framed as a serious US commitment reflecting the nature of the war and regional determination to end Hamas as a threat. - The 20-stage plan and pathway forward. The plan provides a pathway to end Hamas as a regime and terror army in Gaza and to prevent Gaza from threatening Israel going forward. The goal is to disarm Hamas, dismantle its infrastructure, and transform Gaza into a stable, peaceful entity, though it remains a “work in progress.” - Hostages and displaced persons. A central issue is the status of hostages: Hamas holds 13 of the 28 people Hamas allegedly murdered and held, with 18 returned so far, and 25 originally cited in discussions (the transcript mentions 28 total murdered and 18 returned, with 13 still in Hamas control). The speaker argues that Hamas knows the whereabouts of several more hostages and should deliver them; the claim is that some hostages who were said to be unlocated could be found even if debris removal is slow. The Red Cross and humanitarian organizations say recovering bodies will be a massive, decades-long challenge, but the speakers argue that locating hostages does not require full debris removal. Aid and humanitarian access are discussed, including a suspension of aid after the killing of Israeli soldiers that was brief and then reinstated; aid trucks are allowed through to humanitarian zones controlled by Israel in Gaza, with concerns about Hamas siphoning aid for its own purposes. - Aid leakage and Hamas control of aid. The speakers contend that Hamas stole or redirected up to 95% of aid in Gaza prior to the ceasefire, using it to fund its war against Israel. They argue that UN agencies operating in Gaza are often under Hamas influence, whether willingly or unwillingly, and thus aid distribution has been compromised when Hamas governs. - Hamas’ current behavior in Gaza and security concerns. Hamas is described as reasserting control by mass executions and intimidation; there is concern about how much control they exert over the areas they govern and the potential for continued war if they disarm remains unactioned. The discussion stresses that the longer Hamas can control areas, the more they can pursue their war. - Trump–Kushner–Witkoff diplomatic leverage. The discussion credits President Trump’s diplomacy with changing Hamas’s calculus. The Qatar strike that nearly targeted Hamas negotiators is acknowledged as a turning point; Kushner and Witkoff claimed that Hamas wanted peace when engaged directly in Egypt, and that the strike on Qatar frightened Hamas into reconsidering its position. The interlocutor suggests that palace diplomacy, allied pressure in the Arab and Islamic world, and the military pressure on Gaza City converged to push Hamas toward releasing hostages and engaging with the peace process. - Israel’s regional strategy and deterrence. The speaker emphasizes that Israel must be able to defend itself and maintain power in the region. The Abraham Accords are cited as a success, with normalization continuing because partners recognize Israel’s stability and the advantages of cooperation. The Palestinian statehood question is reframed as a broader test of Palestinian willingness to accept Israel’s existence; the speaker notes parliamentary support in Israel opposing a Palestinian state and argues that Palestinian society must change its stance toward recognizing a Jewish state. - Lebanon and Hezbollah. Optimism is tempered by caution. In Lebanon, there is some movement toward demilitarization, with the Lebanese army involved and Hezbollah’s power being re-evaluated. The speaker stresses that even if conflict ends, Israel will remain vigilant and prepared to prevent a rebuilt Hezbollah threat along the border, citing past upheavals and the need to protect border towns like Kiryat Shmona. - Iran and the wider threat. Iran’s missile program and its nuclear ambitions are described as two cancers threatening Israel: missiles capable of delivering heavy payloads and a nuclear program. The strategic aim is to prevent Iran from creating a “ring of fire” around Israel (Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Iraq) and to prevent metastasis of Iran’s influence from spreading. - Global sentiment and demonization. The speaker acknowledges growing global antisemitism and demonization of Israel post-October 7, but argues that Israel’s demonstrated ability to defend itself strengthens its position and that support should endure as the conflict recedes from prominence. The Palestinian leadership’s stance and the broader regional dynamics remain central to whether a two-state solution can emerge, with a tempered expectation that the peace plan will proceed step by step.

When I return to the White House, the US will fully support Israel without apology. Hamas is blamed for all lives lost in the conflict. Joe Biden's weak actions led to attacks on Israel. America's enemies will face consequences for harming citizens. Strength, not weakness, is needed to deter evil. Wars must be finished for peace to prevail. Building democracies in unstable regions is futile.

The speaker clarifies their stance on a ceasefire in Gaza. They express doubt about the possibility of a permanent ceasefire with Hamas, citing the organization's dedication to turmoil and chaos. The speaker believes that Arab countries in the region also recognize the need for Hamas to be removed.

We created Hamas as a counterweight to the government at the time, thinking it would be a prayer organization that would clash with them. However, we couldn't predict what it would become. Now, we have to consider the facts and decide whether to conquer Gaza and destroy Hamas, regardless of the cost.

Hamas's actions remind us of their true nature—evil and not fit to govern. Their destruction is in everyone's best interest, including Palestinians. The President's plan for Gaza involves removing people for reconstruction, but if others have better plans, they should present them. In my first 30 days as Secretary of State, I've focused on realigning the State Department with America's national interest. This means defining our interests and ensuring every action supports them. We're restructuring bureaus to better address issues like migration and human trafficking. We've paused foreign aid to review its alignment with our interests, issuing waivers for programs like fentanyl precursor training in Guatemala.

Hamas's actions remind us of their evil nature, and they can't be allowed to have arms or control territory. The President's plan for Gaza involves removing people for reconstruction, but regional partners need to propose better plans. The key challenge is determining who will govern Gaza post-Hamas. In my first 30 days as Secretary of State, I've focused on realigning the State Department with American national interests, defining those interests, and ensuring our actions support them. We're restructuring bureaus to prevent migration and trafficking, and reviewing foreign aid to ensure it serves our national interests. We're also identifying programs for repurposing, like climate programs, to prioritize energy independence.

Hamas's release of Israeli hostages' bodies reminds us of their evil nature. They cannot be allowed to have arms or control territory. The goal is to eliminate Hamas for the benefit of everyone, including Palestinians. President's plan involves removing people for reconstruction, but regional partners need a better plan. The State Department needs realignment with the national interest. An "America First" approach defines our interests and aligns actions accordingly. We're restructuring bureaus to prevent migration and trafficking, for example. Foreign aid is under review, with waivers for programs aligned with our interests, like fentanyl prevention. We're identifying programs and personnel for repurposing, with the help of DOGE. USAID needs better cooperation and alignment with the State Department's mission. We're addressing uneven trade imbalances and prioritizing reciprocity in economics and trade.

But if you if you were to say, how does Israel solve this problem forever in the future? I think that if you leave a scrap of Palestinian DNA Wait. Can I ask you real quick? If we destroy all of Gaza, what is the loss to the world? I didn't say that there's a loss to the world. I don't really think that the Palestinians provide Wait. Time out. If Israel did eliminate 2,300,000 Gazans. Right? Let's say it took them even a long time, short time, whatever. They just completely eliminate, wipe them all out. This would cause a response by the Arab countries. There would 100% cause a response by the Arab countries. They would thank us. But I legitimately cannot think of any

We created Hamas as a counterweight to Fatah, thinking it would be a prayer organization that would compete with them. However, we couldn't predict what it would become. Now, we have to consider the facts and decide whether to conquer Gaza and destroy Hamas, regardless of the cost.

And I think it's instructive that now many Gazans are fighting back. They're begging us, they're begging the world. Free us. Free us and free Gaza from Hamas. No nation can accept a genocidal terrorist organization, an organization committed to its annihilation, a stone's thrill from its citizens. Our goal is not to occupy Gaza, our goal is to free Gaza, free it from Hamas terrorists. The war can end tomorrow if Gaza or rather if Hamas lays down its arms and releases all the remaining hostages. Gaza will be demilitarized, Israel will have overriding security responsibility, a security zone will be established on Gaza's border with Israel to prevent future terrorist incursions. A civilian administration will be established in Gaza that will seek to live in peace with Israel.