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Both parties have a history of questioning election legitimacy. Hillary Clinton and Jimmy Carter, among others, delegitimized Donald Trump's 2016 win. Clinton continues to be unrepentant about this. The Obama administration allegedly used government apparatus to spread the falsehood that Russia secured Trump's election, despite initial intelligence reports deeming Russian meddling insignificant. According to the speaker, there was a conspiracy using government and intel agencies to delegitimize Trump. The speaker cites John Brennan's flippant response to the unverified Steele dossier as evidence. The speaker references the book "Rigged" by Molly Hemingway, detailing Democratic disregard. Democrats, including Raskin, voted against seating electors in the past, claiming the election was rigged. The speaker concludes that both parties have accused each other of election malfeasance and suggests moving forward.

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Both parties have a history of questioning election legitimacy. Hillary Clinton and Jimmy Carter, among others, delegitimized Donald Trump's 2016 win. Clinton continues to be unrepentant about this. The Obama administration used the apparatus of government to spread the falsehood that Russia got Trump elected, even though intelligence reports judged Russian meddling as insignificant. According to the speaker, there was a conspiracy using government and intel agencies to delegitimize Trump. The speaker cites John Brennan's flippant response to the unverified Steele dossier as evidence of this. The speaker references the book "Rigged" by Molly Hemingway, which details the Democrats' disregard. Democrats, including Raskin, voted against seating electors in 2016, claiming the election was rigged. The speaker concludes that both parties have accused each other of election malfeasance and suggests moving forward.

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The speaker expresses concern about the lack of action from the US government in deterring organizations that are trying to influence elections and obtain coronavirus vaccine information. They criticize the Trump administration for favoring Putin and disregarding the intelligence community. The second speaker explains that the Russian unit responsible for hacking the DNC is different from the one attempting to hack vaccine information. They believe that every country is likely trying to gather vaccine development information, and while there are other concerning actions by the Russians, this particular hack is not a top concern. The conversation ends with gratitude towards the speakers.

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There is irrefutable evidence that detail how president Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty sixteen election to help president Trump win, selling it to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election in November 2016.

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The discussion centers on whether high-ranking Democrats abused their intelligence positions to convince Americans that Russia stole the 2016 election. One participant alleges a conspiracy led by Obama, claiming Democrats couldn't believe Trump won and wanted to delegitimize his presidency. Counterarguments emphasize that a bipartisan committee, including Marco Rubio, concluded Russia interfered, but didn't change votes. The conversation explores whether the issue is the intelligence community's conclusions or public belief. One participant defends Obama's actions, citing his transition with Trump. Another claims Obama was the architect of the Russian collusion narrative, feeding fake intelligence to the media. A counterpoint is made that Trump acted differently when Biden won. One person suggests the conversation is a distraction tactic employed by Donald Trump.

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There are too many connections between Trump and Russia to be coincidences, including financial entanglements and attempts to hide meetings. Regardless of the Trump investigation, Russia interfered in the election to help Trump, hurt the speaker, and destabilize democracy, and they haven't stopped. The Russians stole campaign manager John Podesta's emails, conveyed them to WikiLeaks, and released them the same day as the "Hollywood Access" tape. The emails were weaponized and targeted at specific voters. Investigators are looking into where the Russians got the targeting information. The Russian government, directed by Putin, engaged in espionage against Americans to influence the election, as confirmed by 17 intelligence agencies. The most important question is whether Trump will admit and condemn Russian interference and reject their espionage, which he has encouraged in the past. Trump's admiration for Putin, a "wannabe dictator," is exemplified by his suggestion to leave NATO, giving a green light to a "murderous, brutal dictator."

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Speakers discuss the severity and novelty of threats to the United States’ political system, focusing on Russian interference and the digital domain. - All acknowledge that the country faced a cataclysmic disruption to its political system that is unlike prior experiences. Speaker 2 notes, as a Vietnam veteran, that fundamental institutions were jeopardized then but proved resilient, and expresses hope for a similar outcome now. - Speaker 1 emphasizes two points: (1) Vladimir Putin’s determination to shape political landscapes inside Russia and abroad, and (2) the consequential role of the digital domain, which allowed Russian intelligence to exploit and manipulate more effectively, culminating in the twenty sixteen election. - They note that Russian interference historically involved exploiting elections, but never with such aggression, directness, or multidimensional methods. The Internet and modern technology serve as a huge enabler for influencing opinion and undermining fundamental systems. - There is a discussion of whether this manipulation was unforeseen. Speaker 2 indicates it goes back to the Soviet era with attempts to influence elections, but the magnitude in twenty sixteen was unprecedented. The digital environment provides malefactors with more opportunities to attack and influence. - The panel explains active measures as fabricating or propagating stories (even patently false ones) to advance a narrative, color perceptions, and lend legitimacy to political actors. They note that the Russians focused on specific voter blocks in states like Wisconsin and Michigan, with estimates that 70,000–80,000 votes could have swung the election. - They discuss methods beyond information operations, including collecting information (e.g., DNC and DCCC email breaches) and money-related tactics: money laundering, disguising funding sources for political actions, and potential extortion or blackmail. They stress that collusion is a tool in the Russians’ kit and that they recruit or exploit individuals where openings exist. - Following the money is highlighted as essential across national security domains; FBI financial investigators and intelligence analysts play key roles, and there is confidence that Mueller and others will trace financial pathways to uncover motivations. - The distinction between cyber warfare and conventional warfare is acknowledged: there are no tanks or planes, but the cyber realm constitutes a war for democracy. A robust response is needed to strengthen the cyber environment, including proposals for a congressional independent commission to assess and strategize future protections, involving engineers, technologists, scientists, and private sector input. - They reflect on why the nation did not respond with the immediacy seen after physical attacks (e.g., 9/11). The lack of a physical rubble-like trigger makes cyber threats harder to mobilize a national response. Leadership issues are cited: when the White House diminishes the CIA, FBI, NSA, or intelligence and law enforcement, it undermines efforts to address the threat. - They recount briefings to the president-elect in January, noting high confidence levels in assessments that did not rely on the dossier; the bigger concern is a perceived indifference to the Russian threat and the denigration of security institutions. - They stress the importance of institutional integrity: the press, law enforcement, and intelligence are pillars of democracy, and denigration of these institutions undermines U.S. credibility abroad. They advocate for stronger checks and balances and reiterate their commitment to truthful reporting and protecting the country. - The speakers, experienced and apolitical, emphasize loyalty to the Constitution and the need for decisive leadership and sustained commitment to democratic institutions, despite political challenges. They conclude with a solemn commitment to safeguard the country and its democratic framework.

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The speaker claims that a declassified oversight report reveals irrefutable evidence that President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of a false intelligence community assessment (ICA). This assessment promoted a contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump win, which the speaker alleges was untrue. The report supposedly details how they manufactured findings, suppressed evidence, and disobeyed intelligence standards to subvert the will of the American people and undermine Trump's legitimacy, launching a "years long coup." The speaker asserts that Putin's principal interest was to undermine faith in the US democratic process, not to favor a specific candidate. The speaker claims that John Brennan and the intelligence community intentionally suppressed intelligence that Putin was saving damaging material on Hillary Clinton until after the election, including possible criminal acts. Brennan and the IC allegedly mischaracterized intelligence, relied on the Steele dossier, and excluded information contradicting the ICA's claims about Putin's support for Trump. The speaker states that multiple intelligence community assessments concluded Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the election outcome.

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Voters, not Vladimir Putin, should decide who the American president is. The Russians offered, the campaign accepted, and the president used Russian help. The dossier alleges collusion and assistance. Vladimir Putin doesn't want one of the speakers to be president. Russia, China, and Iran have been involved in the election. Seventeen intelligence agencies have confirmed this. Fifty security officials who served in Republican administrations have said that Donald is unfit to be the commander in chief. The smear on Joe Biden comes from the Kremlin. The president is unwilling to confront Putin, even when Russia puts bounties on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan. There are several factors that contributed to the low to moderate confidence in the judgment.

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The speaker discusses actions taken in recent weeks related to transparency of intelligence operations and political manipulation surrounding the 2016 U.S. election. They claim that documents have been declassified and released which reveal that, after Election Day 2016, high-level figures in the Obama administration and leaders within the intelligence community knowingly created and disseminated a false intelligence document. This document, according to the speaker, asserted that Russia intended to assist Donald Trump in winning the presidency with the aim of undermining his administration and overriding the will of the American people who voted for Trump to be the nation’s commander in chief rather than Hillary Clinton. The core claim presented is that this manufactured intelligence was produced and circulated despite the outcome of the election having already been decided by the voters, and despite the public’s expressed preference for Trump to assume the presidency. The speaker emphasizes that the deception occurred at the highest levels of government and intelligence, implying an intentional effort to influence perceptions about the 2016 election and the legitimacy of Trump’s win by attributing foreign support to him that allegedly aimed to undermine his presidency from the start. Key elements highlighted include: - The timing: after the 2016 election was completed, and after the American people expressed their choice for the presidency. - The actors: President Obama and leaders within the intelligence community. - The nature of the claim: the creation of a “manufactured” or false intelligence document. - The alleged content: Russia’s supposed goal to help Trump win with the objective of undermining his presidency and overruling the expressed will of the voters. - The consequence implied: a deliberate effort to mislead about foreign influence in the election and to challenge the legitimacy or outcome of the election by associating Trump with foreign assistance intended to subvert democratic choice. Overall, the speaker asserts that the released documents expose a deliberate fabrication by top government figures designed to cast doubt on the 2016 election outcome and to imply foreign interference aligned with undermining Trump’s presidency. The emphasis is on the authenticity and impact of declassified materials that reveal this alleged manipulation. No evaluation of the truth of these claims is provided within the summary.

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Speaker 0 states that the intelligence community assessment at the time contained no information about the election's impact and never mentioned collusion. According to Speaker 0, they are accused of a conspiracy by those who misrepresent the facts. Speaker 0 claims President Obama instructed them not to do anything that would affect the election's outcome or release reports naming American citizens. Speaker 0 says they carried out their responsibilities with integrity. Speaker 1 claims the report contains extensive information relating to collusion and obstruction. Speaker 1 believes anyone can identify interactions and meetings between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and Russians, and that it was enlightening.

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Speaker 0 said there had been contacts between members of Mr. Trump's staff and Russian officials, and that Trump benefited from the hacks; Josh Earnest said 'it's obvious, that Trump knew what was going on.' He insisted, 'I'm not suggesting cooperation at all,' and noted the context of 'the CIA assessment that this was done purposely to, improve Trump's chances' and that 'this was the worst kept secret in this town.' He argued that the DNC and Hillary Clinton emails were released 'drip, drip fashion over the course of months,' creating the inference that it was helping Trump and hurting Hillary, though 'that doesn't mean that the Trump campaign was coordinating.' He pointed to Trump's admiration for Putin and desire for a more cooperative relationship. In October, 'every intelligence agency' agreed 'the Russians had hacked the DNC,' and CIA assessed it was 'done purposely to tilt the election.'

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Russia hacked the election. President Trump still doesn't sound convinced. If he admits it, it casts a shadow on his victory over Hillary Clinton. Russia is doing it again now with election-related cyber hacking. The CIA, the FBI, the NSA, and 17 intelligence agencies all conclude that Russia hacked the election. If Donald Trump was colluding with Russia while they were hacking the election, that is completely impeachable. A dossier alleged a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian effort to hack the election. The director of national intelligence, the head of the National Security Agency, and the head of the FBI all say Russia hacked the election. To believe that's wrong, you have to believe they're all involved in an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump.

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News alert discusses Tulsi Gabbard releasing a report alleging a conspiracy by a sitting president, Barack Obama, and U.S. intel agencies to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency and the 2016 election. The report claims there is irrefutable evidence that Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment they knew was false, promoting a narrative that Russia interfered in 2016 to help Trump win. Gabbard says she obtained a House Intelligence Committee report that had been locked away in a CIA vault for nearly a decade, and investigators spent over two thousand hours interviewing 20 CIA and FBI officials. The assertion is that the Obama administration doctored intelligence to imply Putin and Trump colluded to steal the election, with a highly unusual, rush-developed assessment produced a month after Trump’s victory. John Brennan allegedly handpicked five CIA analysts to write the assessment, who were siloed and not aware of each other’s work, with only one analyst in charge of drafting. The process was described as a rush job with no coordination with other intelligence agencies, essentially “home cooking” for Obama. The four key elements repeated in the assessment, forming the basis of the Russia hoax and the Mueller investigation, are: 1) that Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win; 2) Putin took actions to help Trump win; 3) the Russians had blackmail on Trump (the Steele dossier); and 4) that the Russians tried colluding with the Trump campaign. The claim is that none of these were true, and there was no reliable intelligence to support them. Senior CIA officials allegedly refused to propagate these allegations, but were overruled by CIA Director Brennan and FBI Director Comey, who pressed for them despite lacking verifiable evidence. The report alleges the Obama administration cherry-picked intelligence, misquoted sources, did not corroborate claims, suppressed counter-evidence, and even used anonymous internet postings. Rank-and-file CIA personnel allegedly admitted that these actions violated tradecraft standards, with a pressure campaign emanating from political appointees, the CIA director, and Obama himself. Speaker 1 asserts that Donald Trump knows Russia helped him win in 2016. Speaker 2 suggests Putin’s preference for Trump came from his dislike of Hillary Clinton, who was running, while Speaker 3 states Russia sought to interfere systematically to advance Trump’s prospects. The conversation notes that at one point, 60% of Democrats believed Russia hacked voting machines to aid Trump, yet the report contends Russians aimed to create chaos and undermine faith in democracy, with solid intelligence indicating Putin had no clear preference between Clinton and Trump but had dirt on Clinton that was not released. The discussion questions why the dirt from the DNC emails and claims about Clinton’s health, including tranquilizers, were not leaked to aid Trump, and whether the information about Clinton’s health is credible. The panel suggests that if Russia sought to influence the election, more damning information would have been released. The speakers claim Obama and top intelligence leaders mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious sources to craft a narrative of Putin’s preference for Trump. They contend Obama continued pushing the hoax after the election, describing it as undermining democracy. Towards the end, there is mention of potential criminal implications, with references to referrals to the Department of Justice and FBI for investigation, including possible liability for Obama. A tester voices that Brennan may have committed perjury before Congress. A final note asserts that the CIA did not rely on the Steele dossier for the intelligence community assessment, countering a claim made in the discussion. The segment closes with a call for accountability.

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Voters in America should decide the president, not Vladimir Putin. The Russians offered, the campaign accepted, and the president used their help. The allegation is that they colluded. Putin doesn't want me to be president. Russia, China, and Iran have been involved in this election. 17 intelligence agencies confirmed it. Fifty former national security officials said Trump is unfit to be commander in chief. The smear on Joe Biden comes from the Kremlin. Trump is unwilling to confront Putin, who put bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan. The confidence in this judgment is low to moderate due to various factors.

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The speaker believes the Russian hack of the DNC contributed to an atmosphere focused on Hillary Clinton's emails and the Clinton Foundation, overshadowing policy debates and impacting the election. The speaker states that the CIA assessment that the hack was intended to improve Trump's chances shouldn't be surprising, as it was widely understood that the hack was helping the Trump campaign and hurting the Clinton campaign. While the president-elect has expressed admiration for Putin and a desire for cooperation, the speaker emphasizes that the consensus among intelligence agencies was that the Russian government was behind the DNC hack. The speaker notes that various agencies are still assessing the motivations behind the hack. The speaker highlights that the current information is based on CIA leaks, not an official document, and that agencies are still comparing notes. The speaker requested a report be issued before the 20th, so that unclassified aspects can be presented to the public and Congress.

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The discussion centers on allegations of foreign and domestic interference in the 2020 U.S. election and related vulnerabilities in mail-in voting. - A 2020 FBI intelligence memo warned that China might have been sending fake driver’s licenses into the U.S. to create fake mail-in ballots intended to help Joe Biden win. The memo, reportedly corroborated by licenses intercepted by U.S. Customs and Border Protection in Chicago, was allegedly dismissed and not investigated because it would reflect badly on Trump. There are claims that intelligence reports were requested to be destroyed under federal records rules to prevent leaks before the election, as the memo allegedly indicated China preferred Joe Biden over Donald Trump. - A 60 Minutes segment quoted the head of Homeland Security’s cyber security division stating there were no foreign intrusions in the 2020 election, which is asserted as false by the speakers, citing later indictments of Iranians in Manhattan in 2021 for interfering in the election by hacking a state database to obtain voter IDs used in a malinformation operation. - In Colorado, it is claimed that 670 Dominion passwords from 63 out of 64 counties were exposed on the secretary of state’s public website since June, and that these passwords were known to Secretary of State Jenna Griswold during a trial but not disclosed to clerks. There are accusations that this could imply compromised elections, referencing fraudulent activity in Mesa County and asserting that passwords beyond Colorado were involved with Dominion machines. Dominion’s Colorado base is noted, with a claim that Dominion also has ties to Serbia. A video referenced by Gary Brunson is suggested to support these claims about the origins of the electoral manipulation. - A video and related claims allege a connection to a 30-year CIA whistleblower and trace the origins of the alleged election manipulation to Venezuela and Hugo Chávez, tying in references to Patrick Byrne and broader alleged corruption. - The speakers assert there was a second country deeply involved in meddling in the election, with FBI involvement in August 2020 in recognizing a Chinese operation to mass-produce fake U.S. driver’s licenses and mail-in ballots to influence the election in favor of Biden, describing the operation as designed to help Biden beat Trump. Customs and Border Protection reportedly intercepted 20,000 fake driver’s licenses, corroborating the intelligence, while the Biden administration and the Chris Wray-led FBI allegedly covered this up for five years until the document was provided to Chuck Grassley by Kash Patel. - It is claimed that China viewed mail-in ballots as an enormous vulnerability during the COVID-19 pandemic, exploiting the weakness in the system, and that this concern remains for states lacking strong mail-in voting security. - Additional notes include a claim that there were tightened voting laws in several states post-2020, with increased confidence in the system where tightened; an arrest by HSI Miami and partners of a permanent resident Haitian national for unlawful voting and casting a false ballot; and estimates that 130,000 to 280,000 completed ballots were shipped from Bethpage, New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, with the trailer disappearing. - The final claim references tens of thousands of fake voters having illegally cast ballots in the November election, implying broad down-ballot effects across Senate, Congress, and local elections.

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Speaker 0 says that over the last several weeks they declassified and released documents exposing that President Obama and leaders in the intelligence community knowingly manufactured a false intelligence document after the 2016 election. The document alleged that Russia aspired to help President Trump win the election with the aim of undermining his presidency and usurping the will and the voices of the American people who sent Trump to the White House.

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The speaker asserts that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with purpose, sophistication, and overwhelming technical efforts via an active measures campaign driven from the top of the Russian government. This is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community. The speaker confirms that entities beyond the DNC and DCCC were targeted, including government, non-governmental, and near-governmental agencies like nonprofits. The speaker estimates that the Russians specifically targeted hundreds, possibly over a thousand, entities.

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There is irrefutable evidence that detail how president Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. The Obama administration doctored the intelligence to make it look like Putin and Trump stole the election. A month after Trump beat Hillary, Barack Obama wasn't satisfied with his intelligence reporting and ordered his CIA director to create a new assessment of how Russia interfered with the election. John Brennan handpicked five CIA analysts to write the assessment, and they were siloed. None of them knew what the other was doing, and only one analyst was in charge of drafting this report. There was a massive pressure campaign that came right from the top. Obama and his spy chiefs knew that Putin didn't prefer Trump over Hillary, but they cooked the intelligence to make it look like he did.

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The hacking on both sides occurred, but the release of DNC information to WikiLeaks was deliberate to help Trump get elected. Evidence suggests Russia's involvement. Trump's claim of being caught in the act is true. Russia has the means and motivation for such actions, making this unprecedented in US electoral history.

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Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, released new evidence alleging that former President Barack Obama and top aides conspired to subvert President Trump’s February victory and undermine the democratic will of the American people. The speaker asserts that while Obama publicly appeared to support a peaceful transfer of power, privately he took steps to sow discord and sabotage Trump, including manufacturing and politicizing intelligence that was used to justify baseless smears against the new president. The claim is that Trump had no involvement with Russia and that the Russia collusion narrative was a massive fraud, known to Obama and others involved, including former CIA director John Brennan, former DNI James Clapper, former FBI director James Comey, former deputy director Andrew McCabe, and others. The speaker reiterates that DNI Gabbard’s report confirms there was no collusion or corruption by Trump, attributing any wrongdoing to Barack Obama and the “weaponized” intelligence agencies of the time. The Russia hoax is characterized as a blatant lie manufactured by Democrat political operatives, approved by Obama, and leaked to the media to launch a years-long witch hunt against Trump in his first administration. Allies of the president, including Donald Trump Jr., were smeared as Russian assets, with some personally harmed by the false narrative. The speaker notes that much of this occurred during Trump’s first two years in office, consuming vast resources, time, and political capital to debunk the allegations at the highest levels of government. According to the speaker, nearly a decade later, declassification of documents by DNI Gabbard, alongside contributions from CIA Director Ratcliffe and committee Chairman Rick Crawford, supports a newly declassified 2020 report from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. This report reportedly found the intel community did not have direct information that Vladimir Putin sought to help elect Trump in 2016; instead, Russia was allegedly preparing for a Hillary Clinton victory. The narrative claims that, at the time, Obama’s unusual stance led the intel community to publish implausible intelligence to sabotage the incoming president. The speaker asserts this constitutes one of the greatest political scandals in American history, noting that legacy media outlets such as the New York Times and the Washington Post were rewarded with Pulitzer Prizes for propagating political disinformation. The claim is made that those awards should be stripped from journalists who disseminated out-of-context and false intelligence to push a political narrative in service of the Democrats and associated intelligence actors.

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There had been contacts between members of mister Trump's staff and Russian officials, and Trump benefited from the hacks. The spokesman said: “It's obvious, that Trump knew what was going on” and that he was “not suggesting cooperation at all.” Context was the CIA assessment that the hacks were done “to tilt the election” toward a candidate. The discussion noted that DNC hack and “a hack of Hillary Clinton's advisors' emails” were released in “drip, drip fashion,” generating “negative” coverage and implying it helped Trump's campaign and hurt Hillary's, though it “doesn’t mean that the Trump campaign was coordinating.” The president-elect's “admiration for Putin” and desire to forge a cooperative relationship to focus on terrorism were acknowledged. In October, “every intelligence agency” agreed that “the Russians had hacked the DNC” and that the information was released “by Russian intelligence and Russian officials at the highest levels,” not a surprise.

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During the debate, Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of lying about a Russian plan and claims that there is overwhelming evidence of Russian engagement. Speaker 1 denies these allegations, stating that intelligence agencies and former heads of the CIA have called it garbage. Speaker 0 also accuses the FBI of cheating by telling Facebook and Twitter what to do. Speaker 2 believes that the objective is to stop Donald Trump and what he represents in the political process. Speaker 0 concludes by accusing Joe Biden of lying about a major scandal, calling it cheating and election interference on an unprecedented scale.

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It is important to put the investigation into Trump and his associates aside. There is no denying that the Russians interfered in the election to help Trump, hurt Hillary Clinton, and destabilize democracy. According to public testimony before Congress by intelligence professionals, this interference is a clear and present danger to the country. If the roles were reversed and Hillary Clinton had won, she would have stopped at nothing to find out what happened and ensure it never happens again. She would have stood up in front of the country and said that even if it advantaged her, she would not rest until the truth was uncovered.
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